I found this super interesting - and confirming. This "Universal God" has been a core belief of mine as long as I can remember. I am extremely comfortable with the gods as creations of a supreme creator god; as aides to manage all that was created. Very interesting topic - Thank you!
True paganism, in the esoteric truth, is that they all had a core 'Universal God, the One Most High," yet that isn't portrayed via exoteric pagan understanding
@@BarksapGOD gave every poeple their culture and lives among them,obey your culture rules and God laws, Yes God knew Abraham with his culture and God continued to live among Jacob and his son the isrealites in middle east including Dan son of slave or servant of Rachel second wife of Jacob Danish people have their culture and God lives and continued to live with them, they don't belong to isrealites tribe, should be proud of their culture, We all see how long time we're friendly and open to other nations still are,because everyone belongs to God and we have different cultures which we follow or should follow,
I m from circassian origin. In our pagan religion, we also had different gods, but also one supreme god, named T'HA, simular to greek THEOS. The symbol for T'HA was a T.
I bought my children a book on Norse mythology last year. I was shocked when, at the end, it stated after Ragnarok, the true creator would come out of hiding.
@@Lvestfold4143 It most likely is. Lif and Lifthrasir are the 2 humans who survive Ragnarök and repopulate humanity which is basically Adam and Eve in christianity. It's said that there will be no hatred anymore and the remaining gods will live with the humans and there will be one allmighty god. This sounds like christianity wanted to bring their part into it and connect the 2 religions together and letting the christian god take over. "This god was always there and will always be, he has no name, he was the one creating the whole universe" Now if this ain't the work of the monks themselves it's a coincidence close to a miracle.
I think that's one theory. I think another theory is that Christianity stole their beliefs from the Norse. Some.historians (very few) believe the lost ten tribes were the same as the ten gothic (germanic) tribes that appeared on the scene right when the lost tribes disappeared. The belief is that the writings and books left behind in Jerusalem were re written and manipulated to lead people away from the truth...hence some very strange similarities; such as Odin hanging on a tree/Jesus hanging on a cross, both were pierced in the side, Odin hung to receive the runes in order to redeem humanity/Jesus hung to save humanity....and of course there are many more...
@@nickyalexa7744 the only problem with that theory is Odin is far more ancient than Jesus with some speculating he pre-dates the Indo-European cultures. The Romans compared him to Mercury which Mercury comes from the Greek deity Hermes who is also attributed to the Egyptian deity Thot. That predates Jesus my thousands of years. Now whether Odin or Woden influenced Mercury-Hermes-Thot, or the other way around is debatable, it’s definitely not akin to Jesus’s story. Plus Jesus was not unique. Those other deities are all attributed to linguistics, having sacrificing something to provide their peoples with a form of script, Thot the hieroglyphs, Hermes the Greek alphabet, and Odin the runes. Odin making the greatest sacrifice for his people. Jesus only sacrificed his humanity and weekend and didn’t provide anything of value to the people since “sin” and the “forgiveness of sin” is an abstract concept that holds no weight for access to a place that likely doesn’t even exist. During his lifetime there were many Christ-like figures all gathering a cult following in defiance of the established government. That’s all they were. So that theory does not hold weight. Odin is a far more ancient figure than Jesus with a greater theological complexity than Jesus will ever have despite Christianity being the dominate religion.
I feel like that just proves the theory. Odin is far more ancient. Jesus' story (by comparison) does lack weight. Because it was never true in its own right. It was stolen from something far more ancient and twisted to be used as control over those who are weak, or those who refuse to search and risk all for wisdom. Have you ever read anything from the 55 club? They also have quite a bit on this subject/idea..
Swami: "Krishna is described as the original Personality of Godhead, from whom many, many, incarnations and Personalities of Godhead expand." (Bhagavad-gita As It Is) I wrote an article "Krishna and Odin".
Proto-indo-european sky father, Dyēus, is lurking around here it seems like, haha! I often think of it as like there is a ancient mother goddes, connected with earth, and father god, connected with sky, in our nordic myths. And there is maybe, in the proto-indo-european ones (Dyēus and Dʰéǵʰōm)..? Amazing video as always!!!
As an atheist who obviously doesn't believe in any god this was still an interesting video to better understand the different types of religions and how they are connected.
There obviously has to be a Supreme Creator. This universe, animals and humans didn't just magically appear by itself. Otherwise we'd have new worlds randomly manifesting in our bedrooms and half fish/monkey humanoids walking around and people would've evolved away from pollen, mold allergies.
Great Stuff Brother. Heimdall and Tyr have the same vibe to me. I have also read that in the Bahai faith, Heimdall is the Christ figure. I always enjoy the fact that You sound like me at thanksgiving and christmas get togethers with family, I share what I believe could be true, what I hold dear to my own path but I take comfort in the fact that NO ONE really knows, they never like to hear that but it is True. Just be a good dude and walk with reverence. The Almighty sees you and so does your ancestors. that is more than enough for me to be inspired.
@@c.a.t.732 okay, I found it It was under "Entry by troops" by JT Lamb, Heimdall and the rainbow bridge. I have no idea how legit it is, Just stumbled upon it when I was researching Heimdall. tell me what you think of it.
@@thomasmaclir181 Thank you very much for taking the time to provide the reference. JT Lamb is evidently a member of "Baha'is Under Provisions of the Covenant" a very small splinter group of the Baha'i faith centered in Missoula, Montana. (When I was a Baha'i back in the 70s they were referred to as "Remeyites" after their founder Mason Remey, and were considered a bad influence to be shunned. I was a member of a Baha'i band that did a cross-country tour that took us through Missoula at one point, which made us all very nervous at the time!) The Baha'i faith teaches that the founders of the worlds major religions (such as Abraham, Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, etc.) were all "Manifestations of God", i.e. prophets sent to mankind over time. Lamb seems to have an interest in Norse lore and claims the old gods like Heimdall, Baldur and Tyr were also either Manifestations or lesser divine teachers and leaders of religion in ancient Scandinavia. Kind of fascinating, if rather debatable, stuff. It reminds me of how Madame Blavatsky claimed Odin was a Buddha of ancient times. At any rate, thanks again!
Brother; I am so relieved to see and hear this video, validating what i have always believe but have not much spoken; i am an American Swenson and my dad always told me stories of the gods combined with his Lutheran upbringing.. i believe this may really make my father happy to see if i can get his 83yo professor brain to figure it out xD
@@writerblocks9553 I know 😂 It can be hard for English speakers to look at one word in a different language and think it's something else. Thays why you have to make yourself an idiot sometimes with learning other languages. It's what I had to do with German at least. But it's still funny that Áss is God in one language while it means butt in another XD
Also with yule coming up can you do a vid about all of the yule celebrations and what each means. I think you did one, but could you get more in depth like explaining the Yule log and the ritual of selecting, decorating and burning. Just thought that would be cool.
@@MasterAarondid I wrote that? It's just laughable "learning about my culture and heritage" While it's definitely not his culture and heritage, he's just another America larper who did some online test and discovered he's 5% Scandinavian.
The old ways of tradition have a more perennial view of creation and the divine energies. They won't force their beliefs on others, because they understand that all things come from the same essential source.
Did "Rod" bestow the ability to conceptualize irony and indeed dick jokes upon his flock at the same time he chose name he desired his puny mortals to address him with? Or after. Humorous old Rod
@@itsallgoodman4108 You understand different languages have different meanings for letters, sounds, etc... right? You just bashed a whole pagan religion, Rodnovary. For what? I question the cleverness or necessity of that. It's not even a dad joke. JS.
Jesus died and resurrected Krishna died and resurrected Osiris died and resurrected Aitts died and resurrected Quetzalcoatl died and resurrected Easter died and resurrected Baldr died and resurrected The sun died at winter resurrected 3 days later ..... although the storys differ it's the same concept in all religions
Take this with a grain of salt, but: In indonesia when hindus were forced to prove to the government that their religion is at the core monotheistic since only that is legal there, they had to invent a name for the one god and what they chose was something like "the unthinkable/unimaginable", and in Asgård there is a temple where the gods sacrifice, who do they sacrifice to? I heard Krishna in indian hinduism is a rather new term too, considering the age of the religion. Maybe it wasnt so odd in paganism to simply not name the highest god of all, bc the very idea of this god is so vast and powerful that it is simply beyond us and our understanding, so big and far removed from us that we cannot pick up the phone and call him if you understand, so complex as a concept that the human mind is too feeble.
Maybe the name of the allmáttki áss wasn’t intentionally left out. Maybe there simply is no name for it. As in the Tao Te Ching: if it can be named it isn’t the ultimate god/creator.
Well this is the ultimate truth, a glass of mead for you sir! For what is there to do in silence but appreciate the gifts of the gods and the almighty one.
I can’t stand what Christianity did, the tricky ways they tried to convert the violence used in a Gods (especially the Catholic) name who would never condone it. And Nors is such a pure pagan belief and the creator sounds exactly like the creator of all religions. But the Stories are just the best. And I believe you have such a gorgeous culture that has held to so many beautiful beliefs in spite of Christianity. I’ve had a chance to visit Norway, Finland and Denmark and it will forever be my favorite trip! And there always seems to be 3 gods as a triple god or 3 separate main gods even Egyptian and Greek myths follow I don’t want to say structure but living at the same time and The correlation to Zeus/Odin.
3 Gods, The Father, The Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ. That's how it is for us Christians at least. Only they make one together which is a little different. But I agree, many Christians destroy other religions and beliefs through force and war instead of revealing the lie through truth, which usually destroys the lie by itself. People like Bonifacius, Willibrord, Charlemagne, Charles Martel, and many others were horrible people and it enrages me that they used our God to enforce control over others. It's even worse when Catholics glorify them and claim that these men are in Heaven. Maybe they are, but I never condemn anyone to Hell and say someone is in Heaven simply because it is not my place and I don't know. It's hard to believe that everyone goes to hell for me as well when leaders like Aldigisl, Widukind, Herrmann, Siegfried, Redbad, and many others who were pagan made the ultimate sacrifice for their people. Some of their sacrifices we're almost like that of God's sacrifice for us. And it's even harder when I see other pagans live by God's word and live connected to truth and are blessed for it. It's sad when we use our beliefs to feed our lust for war and destruction, but that's what we do.
As a fellow heathen, I wouldn't be so hateful as much as the haters themselves.. show them haters that we have a good spirituality but by no means is it pure.. nothing is pure but nothing is broken.. it's balanced !
I was thinking about the difference between monotheistic religions and polytheistic religions especially the one my people believed in. All have somekind of idea of first creator God. The main difference is that the monotheism extends the title of god only to the "first one" whereas the polytheistic religions use notion of god to describe multiple supernaturally powerful beings. But all the monotheistic religions have other immensely powerful spirits that do the bidding of the God. They are not called gods but malakim or angelos as "servant" who are ranked by power. The ones on the very top manage matters like God's military power or somekind of data management delivering wisdom to humans. In polytheistic religions these would be Gods. But is the difference then except wording? It seems that the only massive difference between polytheism and monotheism is how these supernatural creatures are conceptualized.
Brahman: Imagine you had a clay pot in your hands. You identify the pot as a clay pot, but the underlying nature of the clay pot is that there can be not clay pot without clay. "Pot" is simply a name and form of clay, and it is clay that is the reality of the clay pot. This "illusion", or misconception about fundamental reality, is called Maya. Imagine an ocean, with ferocious waves. Each wave seems larger than the next. The wave, however, is only a name and form of "water", and it's the water that is the underlying reality of the wave. The wave is never apart from the water, it is always water, and although each individual wave seems to be a unique and solitary form, it is in fact only a name and form of water. The waves are like the Jiva or Atman (individual soul), in the sense that they seem to be apart from the water (Brahman) but are in fact only exist as the water (Brahman). You are a name and form. You are a witness to your own mind, and what you witness cannot be you. You are not the mind. You are the Atma. Atma is like the wave. Everything that exists, and even existence and non-existence, are made of Brahman, and are in fact non-separate from Brahman. YOU ARE BARHMAN. Imagine a snake, coiled in the corner of a dimly lit room. You see the snake, and panic. You rush to turn on the light, and once you do, you realize that the snake is in fact a rope. You mistook the rope for a snake in the darkness, but upon illumination, the true reality of the snake is rope, not snake. In the same way, one must realize through illumination the truth of reality which is Brahman. This is to be realized, say the sages, through yoga (meditation). You can know this fact to be true, but only once you "realize" it, you have achieved Moksha (liberation from the cycles of death and re-birth). There are several states of consciousness. We experience "reality" in the waking world, but there is also the dreaming world, and then the deep sleep world. These are all different states of the same consciousness. Notice that in your dreams, everything seems to be real. You can touch, taste, and experience emotions in your dreams. The people and beings you encounter are as real as you are in the dream, as we experience it. Everything in the dream - everything - is made of YOU. It was your dream. Even in deep dreamless sleep, your non-experience of consciousness is infact an experience of consciousness. In this analogy, Brahman is the dreamer of our reality, and we are fundamentally made of Brahman's dream stuff. But remember, everything in the dreamer's dream is made of the dreamer - IS THE DREAMER. All gods are but names and form of Brahman. No soul/consciousness is apart from Brahman. You are Brahman. This is how I understand Brahman. Brahman is *not* Brahma, the four-headed Creator deity of the Hindu trinity. The "Nasadiya Sukta" (creation hymn) of the Rig Veda, which is a poem/song about creation, full text: 1. Then even non-existence was not there, nor existence, There was no air then, nor the space beyond it. What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping? Was there then cosmic fluid, in depths unfathomed? 2. Then there was neither death nor immortality nor was there then the torch of night and day. The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining. There was that One then, and there was no other. 3. At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness. All this was only unillumined cosmic water. That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing, arose at last, born of the power of knowledge. 4. In the beginning desire descended on it - that was the primal seed, born of the mind. The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom know that which is, is kin to that which is not. 5. And they have stretched their cord across the void, and know what was above, and what below. Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces. Below was strength, and over it was impulse. 6. But, after all, who knows, and who can say Whence it all came, and how creation happened? the gods themselves are later than creation, so who knows truly whence it has arisen? 7. Whence all creation had its origin, the creator, whether he fashioned it or whether he did not, the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven, he knows - or maybe even he does not know. ====== To summarize: The gods came after creation, and the creative force that all existence springs from (Brahman) might know, or maybe not know, where reality originates. This is an agnostic-atheist hymn in a polytheistic framework about the one god. All bases covered. However, there's also the Hiraṇyagarbha Sūkta, 121st hymn of the tenth book of the Rig Veda. This hymn is about Hiraṇyagarbha, the great Golden Egg/womb that is self-existent. The deity of the hymn is the named Prajāpati. The Upanishads calls it the Soul of the Universe, or Brahman. Hiraṇyagarbha floated around in emptiness and the darkness of the non-existence for about a year, and then broke into two halves which formed the Svarga (heaven) and the Pṛthvi (earth). In Modern science its often compared with principle of big bang theory, where its considered that world is emerged from a single point. In classical Purāṇic Hinduism, Hiraṇyagarbha is the term used for the "creator". Hiraṇyagarbha is equal to the god Brahma, so called because it is said he was born in a golden egg (Manu Smṛti 1.9). Therefore, the Prajāpati mentioned in the Hiraṇyagarbha Sūkta is none other than Brahma, which is a name and form of Brahman. It's all very complicated sounding, but I assure you it's not. As me anything.
@@simonlu5141 Are you asking about jñāna yoga? In Indian philosophy and religions, jñāna is "knowledge". The idea of jñāna centers on a cognitive event which is recognized when experienced. It is knowledge inseparable from the total experience of reality, especially the total or divine reality (Brahman). The root ज्ञा- jñā- is cognate to Slavic znati, English know, as well as to the Greek γνώ- (as in γνῶσις gnosis) and Lithuanian žinoti. Its antonym is अज्ञान ajñāna "ignorance". Jñāna sometimes transcribed as gyaan, means "knowledge" in Sanskrit. The root jñā- is cognate to English know, as well as to the Greek γνώ- (as in γνῶσις gnosis). Its antonym is ajñāna "ignorance".
It's an interesting video, but I'm not convinced. Around the late 3rd century a religion that worshipped Sol Invictus rose in the Roman empire. Constantine the great (before his conversion to Christianity) worshipped Sol Invictus, and we know that the Roman Empire around that time was in close contact with Germanic tribes. In fact many of the legionaires were Germanic people. A bit later the legions fought under the Chi Rho symbol that was a symbol of Christ that showed in a dream to Constantine. To many - especially in the beginning - this symbol would be mixed with the Sol Invictus religion since Sol Invictus merged with Christianity which is one of the reasons that the sun in Christianity is a symbol of Christ. It's not difficult to imagine these soldiers bringing back the belief in Sol Invictus to their villages and tribes up north. Especially since Constantine was a very powerful emperor, and the Roman empire still seemed very powerful in the 3rd century (although cracks were beginning to show). These veterans would have served for at least 16 years in the Roman army. You can almost see these veterans sitting around the fire in their villages and telling everyone about their many adventures and talk about the powerful almighty god who secured them the victory over their enemies. This happened about 500 years before the viking age. I think it's much more likely that this "ancient one god" could be remnants of the belief in Sol Invictus - or perhaps a simplified form of Christianity - that was brought back to Scandinavia around the 3rd century and was then shared and implemented in the local religions. Snurri writes around 1200 if I recall, so that would have been almost 1000 years later. Certainly not difficult to imagine that this "ancient one god" was just a part of Roman religion that was imported almost 1000 years earlier which would have seemed ancient to Snurri.
Aye, Lovecraft was one of very few people who wielded the true horror of religion Religion isn't a "comfort" as atheists say, it is a warning of the wrath of cosmic powers far beyond our own
Well personally I do think that the Nordic Heathens had an ultimate God... and his name is Odin. Everyone nowadays tries to deny it but I figure they're just coping because they don't like Berserkers, or anybody else who can be a grown man and act of his own accord. But I recall Odin claiming for himself the appellation "Omi", which I think means "the resounding one" but essentially in a linguistic sense it means "the one who is Om". Also it states in the Grimnismal that "Odin is the best of all holy gods." and I recall that the Lombards named him Godan, which means the chief of the Godas or gods. I think that makes him as fully qualified as any other "monotheistic" creator deity, because those other deities are also referred to as "king of heaven". I've read elsewhere that Odin was once called "Iormunr", a derivation of "Irmindeot" or Irmin Gott. Basically this is referring to Irminsul, which was the cosmic pillar or "world tree". In Norse the world tree is called Yggdrasil, and another Norse name for Odin is Ygg. Besides, it is said that Odin gave "Ond" to humans. I think that "Ond" is a cognate with the word "soul". Theologically, the only deity who can bestow soul has to be either the ultimate creator, or an avatar of that creative, life-giving force, or the agent working directly on its behalf. So as I see it, Odin is the ultimate Lord. There are other clues I could give, such as his ability to use magic songs and runes to shape reality or change things spontaneously, which is similar to the way ancient Hindus and Abrahamists believe that God creates things (with his voice) but I suppose I should stop there. You can tell me if you think I'm wrong, but in my heart I'm always going to think that Odin is the Lord. I don't really think that humans can confine divinity to our own systems of mental logic, but my instincts tell me that Odin is both the vital creative force and all of the inspired manifestations of it.
I believe that all of them are aspects, faces, of the one Almighty. Our little tiny brains cannot even comprehend what those pieces really are, let alone the all encompassing force behind them. My two cents.
Ofc Odin is the allfather. But this is not what the subject is about. The question is what created all things that existed prior to the events that took place in the ginnunagap. Before Odin and Odin's ancestors existed. Before Nifelheim and Muspelheim. Before ginnunagapet. Who or what created these worlds that lead up to the events in the ginnunagap.
@@bomerang3748it's a null question. These are concepts that exist beyond the material, beyond time and space, beyond anything we understand the cosmos in in any physical sense. Odin is the creator. In a platonic view, I suppose what you are referring to could be The One, which is not a god, but a point from which all things, including the gods, including morality which comes from the gods, come from.
Oh, wow! Michael, thank you! I didn't know I could even learn this! My grandma was Sámi, animist but no religion or knowledge of it or any Creator being was passed to her or to me. I know of Creator from my dad's Native tradition. My grandma would just smile, & respect & believed it too, but we didn't have this knowledge at all & I didn't expect to find it here. Something made me keep looking bc Norse is next door, & bc you have sense & are grounded & understand animism. I 😂 had to pause the video & breathe! 😂 My missing roots are right here! I'm all wowwww! 😂 ❤ Thanks, man. Your channel just went from great to amazing, to me. Thank you for doing this. Really. 😁 So cool! Haha, I'm all happy! 🌲🦌❤️ I have my beliefs but now I know there's something to research & have leads to start with. I didn't know any language or that there were deities there. Zero clues. 😂
I truly enjoy these videos and the logic they bring. I currently live in Asia and see similarities between all cultures. All seem to have a creator god. The Japanese also view the world from an animism approach. Ive spent a long time reprogramming my mind from Christian beliefs. I never felt home with the middle eastern beliefs... and what do you know, I do with Germanic and Norse cultures. I long to be in the outdoors and near trees.
Since my cousin and I have been watching these we've been learning a lot about things, keep it up, don't worry if I or my cousin get a little critical in the comment section we're a bit older and have experienced some things that I hope no one has to go through.
any shade against people monetizing the Sápmi culture is purely coincidental XD anyway, i think it's almost impossible to not bear some amount of grudge against christianity for what they have done to all the other cultures
As a Christian, I really don't blame you. The most I can say is that not all Christians are imperialistic tyrants who wish death and destruction upon everyone else, but historically, we did some messed up crap in the name of our God who preached to love our enemies.... It's bad.
Fascinating video. Christian influence aside, I think the original creator god (which all pagan faiths have) can vary because Norse Paganism is likely a combination of two or more faiths, a proto-Indo-European faith and a Lappish faith. There are also different creators for different creations. Like in Greek myths everything is born of Chaos, but life is born of the union between Gaia and Uranus, but mankind was given life by Prometheus. I think it's similar in the Norse traditions too. Buri would be akin to the Brahman, Heimdallr would be akin to Prometheus, however Prometheus would be seen as the creator of all mankind while legend claims Heimdallr is only the father of the three Norse tribes. He would likely be a clan totem rather than an almighty entity, though an extremely powerful clan totem deity. Tyr, despite some of the contradictions from the Prose Edda, would be the more likely candidate after Buri.
I grew up in a evangelical church where it was very common for members of the congregation to speak in “tongues” meaning babbling nonsense pretending to be possessed by the Holy Spirit or whatever…and then the pastor would “translate” what the person “said” 😂 this never sat quite right with me. Even as a small child I thought it was fake. How could a human possibly comprehend God in that way?
If you look up the seven gifts mentioned in the Bible, "Tongues" was one, but it's uses was VERY strictly given. Someone would be 'gifted' the ability to speak in a language better understood by someone in the audience than what the messenger spoke. But, to keep the rest of the crowd from freaking out, there'd be a second translator (basically possessed) to re-translate the translation BACK into the language spoken by the original messenger. If it sounds convoluted... that's because it is. Unnecessarily so, but the inane babble that we get today are just people with issues seaking attention and validation within their "church".
Thank God that Im Lutheran. At we can keep a low profile and not try to shove our beliefs down other peoples throats. Or maybe it's just the church that I go to which is located in a small town in Estonia. At least we still do it the old way.
The deeper i go, the more confused I become. I have been on this path for fifteen years and seek the truth. The thought of we all worship the same God is something that has come to mind many times and yet a friend of mine and I even discussed it today. To me Odin is known as the most high, it could very well be Odin's true name. But then again all we can do is speculate, wait and see.one day if fate wills it, I would like to go to Norway and explore where the pagan last stand was and see if there is any hidden places that holds the secrets of old. As far as I know there was nine pages ripped from a book that was from the pagan age given to a Scandinavian king around the Renaissance Era maybe Earlier. But time may tell.
I believe as you've stated many times that all of our religions(Eurasia that is) derive and return back to the same place. That Proto-Indo-European steppe culture. We as a humans went our separate ways, some went East (Iranians, Afanasievo, Vedic), some went south (Aegeans, Anatolians) and some went west (Bell Beaker, Corded Ware) and in doing so, these migrations did keep the baseline of that once inhabited common area of culture but as the ages went new stories were told, languages were created or morphed and perhaps religions adapted to fit the different experiences and new areas of said peoples. Anyway, I am not trying to step on any persons beliefs but after enough dots, you get a line.
I've thought about that as well. Thinking I'm the Only one so it's nice to see another say that as well. About only one God that every religion calls a different name and interprets God in their religions own "correct" way.
when paul is in athens in the new testament, he references an altar dedicated to a being known as the unknown god among the other gods. the platonists and aristotelians also spoke of the prima causa, the first mover, an infinite, impersonal source of being, the center of all reality. in the descent away from this pure oneness, duality formed, and then triplicity. we can see this idea encoded in hinduism in the divine triplicate of brahman, vishnu, and shiva, and also in the ancestral tradition in the form of muspelheim, niflheim, and ginnungagap. the greeks told of gaia mating with uranus to create the giants, as muspelheim and niflheim "mated" to create ymir, the primordial chaos, the prima materia bound into order by odin and his two brothers. the idea of oneness, then duality, then triplicate is replicated again and again through the traditions, as it is the founding pattern of reality. i really believe that norse tradition has the most explicit representation of these ideas.
What if try’s name is “god” as a taboo. Such a powerful war deity was looked upon with awe and fear that the garmanic people did not dare to mention his real name directly, so they used “tiwaz” as euphemism. This is my speculation.
My mom and I had a similar thought on this I have a thought, maybe the god has something to do with ymir or whatever the cow was. I'm saying this because they have relationships with beginnings but I doubt this
That's what I was thinking too! I'm Christian, but as far as my understanding goes, Ymir was the first being in my ancestors religion and it was Óðinn who slew him and created either Yggdrasil or Jörð out of his remains. I could be wrong though because it's been a while since I studied the formation of the world in the Norse religion
Edit: I made my post before you mentioned Buri in your video XD Theory - according to your videos about Buri - might it be possible, that the unnamed god was Buri? Buri is the "creator" the "maker" the "conceiver" the origin of all the aesir and their creations, while he didnt make mankind or midgard (that would be Odin and his brothers) he made them. I am not sure what Buris association with the sun would be except, that the ice age thing where Buri might be the personified land freed by cows and the sun, making more of europe habitable as the ice retreated. Buri as the first of the Aesir (and since Jötnar and Thursae hail from Ymir, could it be Buri had another child that was the creator of the Vanir?) lso i think Buri and Brahman arent that far off linguisticly either but thats just a potential connection. i would attribute some things to Buri - offering Milk as thats what he drank for sustenance, (Audhumbla) possible salt and ice (as he was made out of it or potentially trapped in it?) If Buri was trapped in the ice that hints that he was there before even Ymir, making him the first being in existance. If he was created by Audhumla, could it be that Ymir is the creator god, after all he gave life out of himself and his remains are the very world we live in. Also this might be interesting or nothing as its just a personal story but i wanted to share anyway. I am into Asatru since 21 years now. I did my research, learned old norse, read the sagas, eddas and some more mundane texts of law, i got a good overview of hinduism reading the Bhagavad Gita and learning a bit from other sources as well. I started my journey worshipping Tyr and bloting to him, later as i learned more i used to mainly interact with the land vaettir and Freya until around 30 years of age i strongly felt Odins call. I had visions and when following Odins path i nearly died twice. I tried to become a berserker and lived through a few self induced gengrs, to the point where it permamently damaged my body and i had to fight to resist the gengr as it also was about to cost me my family (i never attacked or hurt them but just seeing me go gengr caused my wife to have genuine horror and fear in her eyes, some primal instinct to run away) So i quit the Odin dedication and went back to focusing on the Alfar. Now last december i found this strange calling and interpreted it to be Buri. I started taking ice baths and submerging myself in actual ice and snow as much a i could naked, to get closer to the one who was trapped in ice and the calling depened. I never had a vision of Buri or any dream that called me its just an urge. When it turned 20 yearsof practise and learning i felt i should dedicate my study to one god but which? Thats when the Buri idea started. Now, as i prepare to tis holy day of Thorri and Thor blot, as in yesterday when i asked how to blot to Buri and how to go about it i found your channel, and many answers. Just now as i am about to head out to the ritual place i felt the urge to search your channel for Buri and aside from the video you did on him (please do more) i found this one. Might not mean a thing and be coincidence but i thought id share it anyway
I read about one person who had a near death experience, she heard the name Heimdallr, and spoke to her. I dont remember what he said, but when she woke up she said she had never heard that name before. Maybe Heimdallr is the creator god.
In ancient Egyptian religion all the various deities were believed to be infinite manifestations with different functions throughout eternity of the One God Atum-Re or Ptah (depending on the religious centre) - very similarly to the idea of the gods being Brahman's manifestations in Hinduism (or even many gods being avatars of Vishnu at a smaller, "earthly" scale). Also, the Sky Father deity in many "primitive" and prehistoric cultures probably played a very similar role. This is also present in Esoteric (Tantric) Buddhism with the idea of the Buddha Mahavairocana (Dainichi Nyorai in Japan) - the absolute, universal supra-consciousness of which all the other Buddhas are either manifestations or of which they have attained knowledge (and thus have become enlightened). For the prehistoric and ancient peoples, there was no concept of polytheism vs monotheism. Also, no pagan self-identified as such before he was called that by the Abrahamists.
Almighty Oss means Thor. You're stretching to say that there's one God that trumps them all. This was never a thing in Norse myth. Also you don't know that Snorri left the name of the pagan "God" out because it was some "unmentioned almighty god" according to you. That is your own hypothesis based on zero evidence. You ascribed Jomali as some "absolute god" simply because that's what the Finns called the Christian God... this is just a case of text book conversion tactics Christians used. All of this is very shaky and you've misinterpreted many of the myths. We know that Odin, Villi and Vei created Midgard. Also, the Volva calls humans the children of Heimdall due to the Rigsthula where he comes down to earth to create the three classes of mankind.
Yes, regardless of research, we must always bear in mind the greater context. I personally do not trust Snorri, as a Christian he would have had a Christian agenda. I think some are too quick to praise him as an ally because he was a fan of the sagas, but he was a medieval Christian nonetheless in a time when their fanaticism rivalled modern Islamic terror groups.
Jumala as a word for god, it’s seems to be way older than christian god originating from the possible indo-european roots. Our original chief of gods was called Jumala before the forced conversion. Christians just adopted the word for their interpretation of god.
@@wegfarir1963 you are looking at it way too literally, like an abrahamic cultist. So much of the Germanic pantheon and the mythology is metaphorical and archetypal. Without understanding this and animism you only get the superficial view.
There's the days of the week too. First Clensing Day, then Sun Day, Moon Day, Tyr's Day, Oden, Thor and last Frigg. I imagine that if you wanted to swear a strong oath for example you would clean your self then swear by the mighty forces in that order.
Maybe i missed something, but when people had to swear that oath, what time period was it? Was it before the christian conversion? Maybe that almighty god thing was inserted due to christian influence and refers to the christian god. Or, if it was before the conversion, perhaps it was inserted into the records to make it seem as though pagans believed in an almighty god. That way, christians could be like "see, your people swore oaths to an almighty god, and we have an almighty god which must be the same god, therefore your people were already worshipping our god, so you should too!" in order to make conversion easier.
I have long thought that perhaps there was a creator/creative power that was recognized as being higher than the pantheon of pagan gods, indeed it created them as well. In this view, maybe even Dyeus Pater was not the universal creator, but simply the chief god of the I.E. pantheon. It may seem silly to involve Tolkien in this, but the Silmarillion illustrates this idea perfectly. Ea was the creator, who brought the gods into existence to aid in his creation and to rule over it. Among these gods, Manwe was the chief. The point is that the gods rule over the temporal universe (or multiverse); but beyond that is the incomprehensible (and hence unnamed) creative power that called it all into existence. Maybe.
Here's a question: I know Norse pagans believe Midgaard is our world. Do they think Midgaard is only this world, as in Earth, or do they think it's the entire universe?
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for sharing your history and culture. I agree with sharing what we understand on a deep, personal level. A lot of amateur ‘experts’ out there 🙃
The guy who wrote the book moved the Sámi away from tradition though. Lars Levi Laestadius, "Fragments of Lappish Mythology," "was a Swedish Sami writer, ecologist, mythologist, and ethnographer as well as a pastor and administrator of the Swedish state Lutheran church in Lapland who founded the Laestadian pietist revival movement to help his largely Sami congregations, who were being ravaged by alcoholism." "Laestadianism, also known as Laestadian Lutheranism and Apostolic Lutheranism, is a conservative Lutheran revival movement started in Sapmi in the middle of the 19th century. Lars Levi Laestadius (1800-1861) was a prominent revivalist and botanist with a Sámi background from northern Sweden. Since the 19th century, Laestadianism has been a well-known religious movement in northern Sweden, Finland and Norway. The Laestadian movement started in Sweden after the spiritual reorientation of Lars Levi Laestadius, which occurred when he had been a minister of the National Lutheran Swedish Church for almost 20 years. According to the legend, the spiritual awakening is connected with Laestadius’ encounter with a young Sámi woman, Milla Clementsdotter, often called Maria. Today, while being most prominent in Finland, it has members in the Scandinavian and Baltic countries as well as in Russia and North America and smaller congregations around the world. There are estimated 200 000 Laestadians worldwide. Laestadians are generally known for their conservative values and exclusive social identity. Nowadays it can be characterised as a conservative movement that is still part of the Swedish Church, despite being a strong critic of many modern phenomena in the Swedish Church today. The teachings of Laestadianism are based on the Bible and the Lutheran Confessions. Centermost among these teachings is the sermon of Jesus’ suffering, death, and victorious resurrection. The work of Jesus Christ continues in this world as the work of the Holy Spirit in Christ’s congregation. Thus the Laestadian Lutheran Church teaches of God’s kingdom and preaches repentance and the forgiveness of sins. Laestadianism is a very severe religion; Leastedians consider themseles only true christians. They reject all sins of the outer world, such as: dancing, television, modern music, earrings, movies, tattoos. Some conservative elements within the church go even further in rejecting the ways of the world, for examples, refusing to buy insurance, prohibiting their children’s participation in organized school sports, and removing their car radios." ~Polarpedia
CAN YOU PLEASE DO A VIDEO EXPLAINING YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE JELLING STONE IN DENMARK, I JUST CAME BACK TO MY LORD AND SAVOIR JESUS CHRIST AND I AM NOW AWARE THAT I AM DESCENDENT OF THE TRIBE OF DAN! THANK YOU, IVE WATCHED A LOT OF YOUR VIDEOS!
GOD gave every poeple their culture and lives among them,obey your culture rules and God laws, Yes God knew Abraham with his culture and God continued to live among Jacob and his son the isrealites in middle east including Dan son of slave or servant of Rachel second wife of Jacob Danish people have their culture and God lives and continued to live with them, they don't belong to isrealites tribe, should be proud of their culture, We all see how long time we're friendly and open to other nations still are,because everyone belongs to God and we have different cultures which we follow or should follow,
No magic can happen anywhere except in the now! To practice magic one must be awake! Most people don't realize it but their not. To be awake your ID, and your Conciousness must work together. Because your conciousness is the intelligence of the Universe. So any question can be answered at any time at the will of the Universe. This is my magic. I stumbled upon it while deer hunting. This in my opinion is the most powerful magic I know of. I was sitting against a Oak tree, pretending to be a above ground root. My mind went blank. Then I understood Universal expansion, but how did I do that? Then I got buried in questions with the accompanying answers. Shocking! Scary ! I thought I was losing my mind. What happened? I connected to the Universe that we all are. May I suggest that waking up is the first step to Paganism. My source The Universe!
I am a practicing yogi and vedic (Hindu) astrologer. Brahman is the name of the supreme being found in the Upanishads and in Vedanta philosophy. Brahman being a cognate of the root "brh" as in the english word "brew" refers to that principle which pervades all things like when you brew a pot of tea the tea permeates the water. The idea is that the Supreme Conscious Entity permeates all of creation and is the source of reality. Brahman is not a deity because it is beyond attributes and physical form, it is the source of all and beyond description. In order to understand this an understanding of Sankhya philosophy is necessary. Sankhya is the foundational philosophy that forms the basis for vedic thought and i think all pagans and people in general could highly benefit fron its study. It is based on what is observable and logical. It provides a logical basis for spirituality and animism.
Extremely interesting. This resembles other pagan beliefs such as, the pre-Islamic Arabs in Arabia who while having many deities that they named, worshipped and erected idols of, they also believed in the concept of an all-powerful God responsible for all life and creation that they called "Allah" (which is the Arabic word for "God") and did not erect any idols to. They believed that these "minor deities" and idols were spiritual beings that helped them get closer to "Allah" and intercede on their behalf. This lends to a wider hypothesis that most if not all "pagan" religions during the ancient and medieval periods were once monotheistic religions that over a long period of time gradually diverged and developed into their own polytheistic and seemingly distinct religions.
I was born into a very strict religion, 5 generations. It wasn't until after I slowly and painfully "unbrainwashed" myself that I discovered my true feelings about a God being and the Divine. I am actually okay with not knowing specifically, but I am absolutely certain in every fiber of my being that a very universal, powerful entity is real. It feels to me as though it is actually love. Love energy, you could say. That belief is unshakable and I'm very comforted by that. An ever present knowing. It connects me to nature like no religion ever has. You look good in that sweater, btw. Love that color green. Enjoy and be well.
Look into ancient Babylonian (I can only give you a phonetic equivalent as I've only heard it, not read it): "sophia" It's basically what you described, but it is the source of life and existence itself. I heard of it from a clip of a documentary here on RUclips some years ago and I haven't been able to find it since. But yeah, it's the source of all. The gods (as there are many) come from it and were assigned a people they were tasked with helping to guide them to their ultimate goal. Basically, and I'm kind of tired, so I apologize if I make little sense, every culture's god or gods were meant for them as the teachings handed down were meant to inspire, and guide, those people to who they were ultimately destined to be (the best they could be). There were one or two cultures who's deity assigned was also meant to contain them, so they couldn't interfere too much with the other cultures progression, but there you have a bit of it. The ancient understanding of... divine/cosmic structure was vastly different than what we have now, but most ancient cultures more or less described a similar structure.
I started out as an agnostic but in the end I really believed that a god of any religion was non-existent and those that believed in such were fools. But then I had a transcendent experience that showed me that the universe was controlled by God that is unconditional love, but with no specific guidance to any religious tradition. Then I was guided to an American Indian medicine man where I learned about the Great Spirit in California. They have a prophecy that says the a white brother from across the ocean would come who would show the people the way to connect to God. Then I went to New Mexico where I started dreaming about The Christ. After reading the bible multiple times, I got the call to be Born Again. Now I am a Christian waiting for the return of Jesus. Each person has to get the call, but for me, Christ is the Way, The Truth and the Life. So for me, according to the teachings I learned from the American Indian teacher, Christ is the brother spoken of in the prophecy.
@@Just_Call_Me_Tim Yes, one belief is that Sophia represents the World's feminine soul, or another is she represents the feminine of God's attributes. After all, the name means wisdom. Currently, I'm in the process of studying Zoroastrianism and it's very interesting.
Were there Norse Druids. Dannu, the Goddess of the Thaua De Danna is after from the Danube. That's not far away from Scandinavia. So while I don't think there was , life is full of surprises that we can learn from.
Brahman is the ultimate reality of the entire universe.According to some sects Brahman is supreme conciousness that pervades the universes other sects believe Brahman is the universe itself with all that is in it. Brahman is God, but with a metaphysical undertone. All souls are synonymous with Brahman, and all of creation, gods and humans alike, originated from the subtle reality that is Brahman. Dharma is that which supports Rta. Rta is natural law and cosmic order. Dharma therefore is that which agrees to natural law and promotes cosmic orders. A lions dharma is to eat other animals because it is the natural law. Part of what it means to be a lion is to be a powerful hunter. The lion’s hunting is conducive to cosmic order as the food chain is a delicate balence to be maintained. For humans, Dharma is to be compassionate, and peruse a higher understanding of the world, and better one’s self. Also Hinduism is both Indo European and Non Indo European equally. Some aspects of the Vedic religion may not trace to Proto Indo Europeans. The idea of a supreme God doesn’t find mention in oldest text Rig Veda. My fellow pagans, I hope this helps.
My ancestors' creator was a pair. In Nahuatl "to-" tacked onto a noun means "our ___", whatever the noun is. They were called Tonan Tota' which meant Our mother Our Father.
It was a common Catholic apologetics tactic to look for and capitalize on just the kind of similarities you describe. Not universal, but destroying older artifacts or writings is not policy, and typically comes after conversion has begun.
Maybe the term Almáttki Áss referred to the creating and governing powers combined, also known as Regin or Rǫgn, roughly translated to "powers" as in "the ruling/governing powers". An old Gode here in Denmark, I forgot his name, often used the term "Røginn Óll, Ginheilliger Gód", roughly meaning "powers of old/ancient forces of governance, holy gods".
I am an Aryan traditionalist of German descent. I have practiced the Germanic traditions for years now, but the guidance of a strict Vedic community has allowed me to travel the esoteric pathways present in the Aryan traditions which have been unfortunately lost in nearly all Western Aryan faiths. These traditions have, however, been preserved in the Vedas, as was lightly touched upon in the beginning of the video. "Hinduism" is a murky religion due to how much contamination from non-Aryan folk religion and abrahamism has been allowed over thousands of years. That is why I value my very strict Vedic community (the Vedas were the original texts of the Aryans who invaded much of central Asia). Depending on who you talk to, some say Brahman, Vishnu, or Shiva is the ultimate God. In my understanding of the Vedic tradition, Brahman is more like the spirit of God that inhabits all things. The ultimate God in the community I participate in is seen as Vishnu in his highest form, often referred to as Narayana. This perspective is supported by the Vedas, and I believe all Aryan traditions likely understood this concept as well. All other benevolent Aryan deities should be viewed with the ultimate goal of leading their devotees to the Absolute Lord. I recommend reading a traditional translation of the Bhagavad Gita if anyone would like to further understand these ideas.
Acknowledging that whatever created life must be beyond our comprehension, like you did, is a sure sign of wisdom... for those who aren't well versed, all religions are essential the same. Do good, be strong be healthy be smart be fair do what's right, we are all embedded with an internal conscious that tells us what is good or evil. Whoever and whatever is responsible for Time itself is so grand, it is unimaginable, pick a religion you like. Most need faith to follow their internal consciousness. And who knows, maybe it is as simple as one of our gods being real and 99% of us will burn for all of existence for being dumb. Either way, there is a creator. That much is very clear.
It honestly just seems like a YaHWeH Old testament name prohibition just sort of inserted by Snorri, but I also wanna think I've heard *Alamahtig was an Old Saxon name for Odin. PGmc *Ermuninaz 'Man made of greatness' "gin-ormous"? aslo a certain "Irmin" and was one of three supposed progenitors. Arminius was a cultic devotee of some archaic form of ON Jormunr?
How we come to understand the stories could majorly change how the story goes say christians heard the story, and vikings seen visions, while Buddha wouldve interacted through forms of meditation
I think this is the ultimate truth. The recognition that we are all appreciating, communing, and/or worshipping with this higher power. I respect every religion, so long as they allow others the space to do the same their own way. We are all seeking the ultimate, highest truth, and we should cooperate and share and love to do so. I personally align with Nordic Animism, but I love all religions, especially indigenous religions and Buddhism and Hinduism.
Same! EXACTLY!!!! I also align to the Norse anamism and the Tibetan Buddhism and Hinduism. I meditate and feel the energy and I also practice necromancy and vril. Many blessings and returns to you and yours✌🏻🤍🌟
Perhaps the reason why the subject is inconclusive is because a one true creator god is without shape where all the gods that have shape are each one representative characteristic. Being that the gods act in concert with one another and shamans can invoke a particular god if they desire a particular attribute. If i am to understand correctly. I am trying to learn.
Aye, it makes me wish that life came with a tutorial mode. Or an introduction. With any hope, or luck, we'll all get our answers with the end credits. Until then, freedom and truth. Skål! 🍻
Formerly from a Christian background, split 2 denominations, but moreso now drawing parallels between every religion, I've been coming to speculate that "God" is just the whole collective consciousness to everything. Everything that is finite and not infinity in it's entirety is only a fragment to the whole. Meaning all of life plus matter plus energy plus however many dimensions and multiverses there are, "God" would be all of it. Whether it has intention or not, would be debatable and unknown in any perspective that isn't EVERY perspective.
Legit paganism all recognized the One Most High, but this is esoteric knowledge in modern times. The exoteric pagan ways are that there is no 'God Most high.' There is a reason why the truth is oft hidden within the esoteric recesses of humanity's collective knowledge.
I don't think it's any of the named "polytheistic" deities is this Allmákti Áss, because they're too particular. By name, Tyr would come the closest, because his name is equivalent to "God", but the fact that he had such specific attributes such as losing one of his hands makes me think that he's a more specific deity. The almighty supreme God was probably not named anything other than the title of being an Almight God.
I was thinking about the difference between monotheistic religions and polytheistic religions especially the one my people believed in. All have somekind of idea of first creator God. The main difference is that the monotheism extends the title of god only to the "first one" whereas the polytheistic religions use notion of god to describe multiple supernaturally powerful beings. But all the monotheistic religions have other immensely powerful spirits that do the bidding of the God. They are not called gods but malakim or angelos as "servant" who are ranked by power. The ones on the very top manage matters like God's military power and other somekind of data management delivering wisdom to humans. In polytheistic religions these would be Gods. But is the difference then except wording? It seems that the only massive difference between polytheism and monotheism is how these supernatural creatures are conceptualized.
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I found this super interesting - and confirming. This "Universal God" has been a core belief of mine as long as I can remember. I am extremely comfortable with the gods as creations of a supreme creator god; as aides to manage all that was created. Very interesting topic - Thank you!
True paganism, in the esoteric truth, is that they all had a core 'Universal God, the One Most High," yet that isn't portrayed via exoteric pagan understanding
@@pyropulseIXXI Agree, and I find that an interesting conundrum too...
Y’all go look into the Jelling stone and tribe of Dan, as well as the NEPHALIM
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@@BarksapGOD gave every poeple their culture and lives among them,obey your culture rules and God laws,
Yes God knew Abraham with his culture and God continued to live among Jacob and his son the isrealites in middle east including Dan son of slave or servant of Rachel second wife of Jacob
Danish people have their culture and God lives and continued to live with them, they don't belong to isrealites tribe, should be proud of their culture, We all see how long time we're friendly and open to other nations still are,because everyone belongs to God and we have different cultures which we follow or should follow,
I m from circassian origin. In our pagan religion, we also had different gods, but also one supreme god, named T'HA, simular to greek THEOS.
The symbol for T'HA was a T.
I bought my children a book on Norse mythology last year. I was shocked when, at the end, it stated after Ragnarok, the true creator would come out of hiding.
There's some debate on whether or not that is genuine Norse beliefs or an addition from malicious Christian monks.
@@Lvestfold4143 It most likely is. Lif and Lifthrasir are the 2 humans who survive Ragnarök and repopulate humanity which is basically Adam and Eve in christianity. It's said that there will be no hatred anymore and the remaining gods will live with the humans and there will be one allmighty god. This sounds like christianity wanted to bring their part into it and connect the 2 religions together and letting the christian god take over. "This god was always there and will always be, he has no name, he was the one creating the whole universe" Now if this ain't the work of the monks themselves it's a coincidence close to a miracle.
I think that's one theory. I think another theory is that Christianity stole their beliefs from the Norse. Some.historians (very few) believe the lost ten tribes were the same as the ten gothic (germanic) tribes that appeared on the scene right when the lost tribes disappeared. The belief is that the writings and books left behind in Jerusalem were re written and manipulated to lead people away from the truth...hence some very strange similarities; such as Odin hanging on a tree/Jesus hanging on a cross, both were pierced in the side, Odin hung to receive the runes in order to redeem humanity/Jesus hung to save humanity....and of course there are many more...
@@nickyalexa7744 the only problem with that theory is Odin is far more ancient than Jesus with some speculating he pre-dates the Indo-European cultures. The Romans compared him to Mercury which Mercury comes from the Greek deity Hermes who is also attributed to the Egyptian deity Thot. That predates Jesus my thousands of years. Now whether Odin or Woden influenced Mercury-Hermes-Thot, or the other way around is debatable, it’s definitely not akin to Jesus’s story. Plus Jesus was not unique. Those other deities are all attributed to linguistics, having sacrificing something to provide their peoples with a form of script, Thot the hieroglyphs, Hermes the Greek alphabet, and Odin the runes. Odin making the greatest sacrifice for his people. Jesus only sacrificed his humanity and weekend and didn’t provide anything of value to the people since “sin” and the “forgiveness of sin” is an abstract concept that holds no weight for access to a place that likely doesn’t even exist. During his lifetime there were many Christ-like figures all gathering a cult following in defiance of the established government. That’s all they were. So that theory does not hold weight. Odin is a far more ancient figure than Jesus with a greater theological complexity than Jesus will ever have despite Christianity being the dominate religion.
I feel like that just proves the theory. Odin is far more ancient. Jesus' story (by comparison) does lack weight. Because it was never true in its own right. It was stolen from something far more ancient and twisted to be used as control over those who are weak, or those who refuse to search and risk all for wisdom. Have you ever read anything from the 55 club? They also have quite a bit on this subject/idea..
Swami: "Krishna is described as the original Personality of Godhead, from whom many, many, incarnations and Personalities of Godhead expand." (Bhagavad-gita As It Is)
I wrote an article "Krishna and Odin".
Proto-indo-european sky father, Dyēus, is lurking around here it seems like, haha!
I often think of it as like there is a ancient mother goddes, connected with earth, and father god, connected with sky, in our nordic myths. And there is maybe, in the proto-indo-european ones (Dyēus and Dʰéǵʰōm)..?
Amazing video as always!!!
As an atheist who obviously doesn't believe in any god this was still an interesting video to better understand the different types of religions and how they are connected.
There obviously has to be a Supreme Creator. This universe, animals and humans didn't just magically appear by itself. Otherwise we'd have new worlds randomly manifesting in our bedrooms and half fish/monkey humanoids walking around and people would've evolved away from pollen, mold allergies.
Great Stuff Brother. Heimdall and Tyr have the same vibe to me. I have also read that in the Bahai faith, Heimdall is the Christ figure. I always enjoy the fact that You sound like me at thanksgiving and christmas get togethers with family, I share what I believe could be true, what I hold dear to my own path but I take comfort in the fact that NO ONE really knows, they never like to hear that but it is True. Just be a good dude and walk with reverence. The Almighty sees you and so does your ancestors. that is more than enough for me to be inspired.
I was a member of the Baha'i faith for many years and never heard that "Heimdall is the Christ figure". May I ask where you read that?
@@c.a.t.732 I will do my best to find the reading that stated this for you
@@thomasmaclir181 Thank you!
@@c.a.t.732 okay, I found it It was under "Entry by troops" by JT Lamb, Heimdall and the rainbow bridge. I have no idea how legit it is, Just stumbled upon it when I was researching Heimdall. tell me what you think of it.
@@thomasmaclir181 Thank you very much for taking the time to provide the reference. JT Lamb is evidently a member of "Baha'is Under Provisions of the Covenant" a very small splinter group of the Baha'i faith centered in Missoula, Montana. (When I was a Baha'i back in the 70s they were referred to as "Remeyites" after their founder Mason Remey, and were considered a bad influence to be shunned. I was a member of a Baha'i band that did a cross-country tour that took us through Missoula at one point, which made us all very nervous at the time!)
The Baha'i faith teaches that the founders of the worlds major religions (such as Abraham, Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, etc.) were all "Manifestations of God", i.e. prophets sent to mankind over time. Lamb seems to have an interest in Norse lore and claims the old gods like Heimdall, Baldur and Tyr were also either Manifestations or lesser divine teachers and leaders of religion in ancient Scandinavia. Kind of fascinating, if rather debatable, stuff. It reminds me of how Madame Blavatsky claimed Odin was a Buddha of ancient times. At any rate, thanks again!
🙏 thank you sir for your knowledge
As always another great and informative video. Thank you. I really look forward more of your videos on Tyr. This to me os a fasinating subject.
We Finns do refer to the Christian god as Jumala but the word can also be used when talking about any other religion's god(s)
That's really interesting! I may be German but I love Finnic and Slavic languages.
Also fun fact, Lars Levi Laestadius basically started a christian revival movement that is still kinda popular in Northern Finland
Thank you so much for making this video. Ive been trying to explain this to so many people.
Thank you for putting all this information together in a clear, organized way that is concise an to the point.
The problem about most people who are religious is they believe their religion is right and everyone else’s is wrong.
Brother; I am so relieved to see and hear this video, validating what i have always believe but have not much spoken; i am an American Swenson and my dad always told me stories of the gods combined with his Lutheran upbringing.. i believe this may really make my father happy to see if i can get his 83yo professor brain to figure it out xD
The name in the thumbnail almost looks like Almighty Ass lol, gotta like a God with a good sense of humor
Áss means God in Old Norse
@@Jürgen_von_Schumacher That is hilarious, in English it means butt
@@writerblocks9553 I know 😂 It can be hard for English speakers to look at one word in a different language and think it's something else. Thays why you have to make yourself an idiot sometimes with learning other languages. It's what I had to do with German at least. But it's still funny that Áss is God in one language while it means butt in another XD
Á is not the same letter as A. It's not just a decorated a.
Also with yule coming up can you do a vid about all of the yule celebrations and what each means. I think you did one, but could you get more in depth like explaining the Yule log and the ritual of selecting, decorating and burning. Just thought that would be cool.
Great suggestion 👍🏻
Thank you. Your videos help me in my quest to learn more about our culture and heritage.
@@valfader don't try, he's American with 1/20 Scandinavian, he recently discovered that through some scatchy 20$ online test.
@@asgrim1513 Why?
Does him being American stop him from learning and teaching?
@@MasterAarondid I wrote that?
It's just laughable "learning about my culture and heritage" While it's definitely not his culture and heritage, he's just another America larper who did some online test and discovered he's 5% Scandinavian.
Everyone knows the highest god is Elu Ilúvatar... Duh
The old ways of tradition have a more perennial view of creation and the divine energies. They won't force their beliefs on others, because they understand that all things come from the same essential source.
The Slavs also have Rod which is basically the god of all creation.
Did "Rod" bestow the ability to conceptualize irony and indeed dick jokes upon his flock at the same time he chose name he desired his puny mortals to address him with? Or after. Humorous old Rod
@@itsallgoodman4108 You understand different languages have different meanings for letters, sounds, etc... right? You just bashed a whole pagan religion, Rodnovary. For what? I question the cleverness or necessity of that. It's not even a dad joke. JS.
Jesus died and resurrected
Krishna died and resurrected
Osiris died and resurrected
Aitts died and resurrected
Quetzalcoatl died and resurrected
Easter died and resurrected
Baldr died and resurrected
The sun died at winter resurrected 3 days later
..... although the storys differ it's the same concept in all religions
Half of those are wrong
Krishna one is wrong,krishna is avatar of lord vishnu and its purpose completed he will go and resurrection
Thanks for the video & information ⚔️
Take this with a grain of salt, but: In indonesia when hindus were forced to prove to the government that their religion is at the core monotheistic since only that is legal there, they had to invent a name for the one god and what they chose was something like "the unthinkable/unimaginable", and in Asgård there is a temple where the gods sacrifice, who do they sacrifice to? I heard Krishna in indian hinduism is a rather new term too, considering the age of the religion. Maybe it wasnt so odd in paganism to simply not name the highest god of all, bc the very idea of this god is so vast and powerful that it is simply beyond us and our understanding, so big and far removed from us that we cannot pick up the phone and call him if you understand, so complex as a concept that the human mind is too feeble.
Urmonotheismus, The True All Father
Maybe the name of the allmáttki áss wasn’t intentionally left out. Maybe there simply is no name for it. As in the Tao Te Ching: if it can be named it isn’t the ultimate god/creator.
Well this is the ultimate truth, a glass of mead for you sir! For what is there to do in silence but appreciate the gifts of the gods and the almighty one.
I can’t stand what Christianity did, the tricky ways they tried to convert the violence used in a Gods (especially the Catholic) name who would never condone it. And Nors is such a pure pagan belief and the creator sounds exactly like the creator of all religions. But the Stories are just the best. And I believe you have such a gorgeous culture that has held to so many beautiful beliefs in spite of Christianity. I’ve had a chance to visit Norway, Finland and Denmark and it will forever be my favorite trip! And there always seems to be 3 gods as a triple god or 3 separate main gods even Egyptian and Greek myths follow I don’t want to say structure but living at the same time and The correlation to Zeus/Odin.
3 Gods, The Father, The Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ. That's how it is for us Christians at least. Only they make one together which is a little different. But I agree, many Christians destroy other religions and beliefs through force and war instead of revealing the lie through truth, which usually destroys the lie by itself. People like Bonifacius, Willibrord, Charlemagne, Charles Martel, and many others were horrible people and it enrages me that they used our God to enforce control over others. It's even worse when Catholics glorify them and claim that these men are in Heaven. Maybe they are, but I never condemn anyone to Hell and say someone is in Heaven simply because it is not my place and I don't know. It's hard to believe that everyone goes to hell for me as well when leaders like Aldigisl, Widukind, Herrmann, Siegfried, Redbad, and many others who were pagan made the ultimate sacrifice for their people. Some of their sacrifices we're almost like that of God's sacrifice for us. And it's even harder when I see other pagans live by God's word and live connected to truth and are blessed for it. It's sad when we use our beliefs to feed our lust for war and destruction, but that's what we do.
You are 100% correct about Christianity and it's attempts to ruin centuries of pagan truths.
@@torstenscott7571 Agreed
As a fellow heathen, I wouldn't be so hateful as much as the haters themselves.. show them haters that we have a good spirituality but by no means is it pure.. nothing is pure but nothing is broken.. it's balanced !
I was thinking about the difference between monotheistic religions and polytheistic religions especially the one my people believed in. All have somekind of idea of first creator God. The main difference is that the monotheism extends the title of god only to the "first one" whereas the polytheistic religions use notion of god to describe multiple supernaturally powerful beings. But all the monotheistic religions have other immensely powerful spirits that do the bidding of the God. They are not called gods but malakim or angelos as "servant" who are ranked by power. The ones on the very top manage matters like God's military power or somekind of data management delivering wisdom to humans. In polytheistic religions these would be Gods. But is the difference then except wording?
It seems that the only massive difference between polytheism and monotheism is how these supernatural creatures are conceptualized.
Brahman:
Imagine you had a clay pot in your hands. You identify the pot as a clay pot, but the underlying nature of the clay pot is that there can be not clay pot without clay. "Pot" is simply a name and form of clay, and it is clay that is the reality of the clay pot. This "illusion", or misconception about fundamental reality, is called Maya.
Imagine an ocean, with ferocious waves. Each wave seems larger than the next. The wave, however, is only a name and form of "water", and it's the water that is the underlying reality of the wave. The wave is never apart from the water, it is always water, and although each individual wave seems to be a unique and solitary form, it is in fact only a name and form of water. The waves are like the Jiva or Atman (individual soul), in the sense that they seem to be apart from the water (Brahman) but are in fact only exist as the water (Brahman).
You are a name and form. You are a witness to your own mind, and what you witness cannot be you. You are not the mind. You are the Atma. Atma is like the wave. Everything that exists, and even existence and non-existence, are made of Brahman, and are in fact non-separate from Brahman. YOU ARE BARHMAN.
Imagine a snake, coiled in the corner of a dimly lit room. You see the snake, and panic. You rush to turn on the light, and once you do, you realize that the snake is in fact a rope. You mistook the rope for a snake in the darkness, but upon illumination, the true reality of the snake is rope, not snake.
In the same way, one must realize through illumination the truth of reality which is Brahman. This is to be realized, say the sages, through yoga (meditation). You can know this fact to be true, but only once you "realize" it, you have achieved Moksha (liberation from the cycles of death and re-birth).
There are several states of consciousness. We experience "reality" in the waking world, but there is also the dreaming world, and then the deep sleep world. These are all different states of the same consciousness. Notice that in your dreams, everything seems to be real. You can touch, taste, and experience emotions in your dreams. The people and beings you encounter are as real as you are in the dream, as we experience it. Everything in the dream - everything - is made of YOU. It was your dream. Even in deep dreamless sleep, your non-experience of consciousness is infact an experience of consciousness.
In this analogy, Brahman is the dreamer of our reality, and we are fundamentally made of Brahman's dream stuff. But remember, everything in the dreamer's dream is made of the dreamer - IS THE DREAMER.
All gods are but names and form of Brahman. No soul/consciousness is apart from Brahman.
You are Brahman.
This is how I understand Brahman.
Brahman is *not* Brahma, the four-headed Creator deity of the Hindu trinity. The "Nasadiya Sukta" (creation hymn) of the Rig Veda, which is a poem/song about creation, full text:
1. Then even non-existence was not there, nor existence,
There was no air then, nor the space beyond it.
What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping?
Was there then cosmic fluid, in depths unfathomed?
2. Then there was neither death nor immortality
nor was there then the torch of night and day.
The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining.
There was that One then, and there was no other.
3. At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness.
All this was only unillumined cosmic water.
That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing,
arose at last, born of the power of knowledge.
4. In the beginning desire descended on it -
that was the primal seed, born of the mind.
The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom
know that which is, is kin to that which is not.
5. And they have stretched their cord across the void,
and know what was above, and what below.
Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces.
Below was strength, and over it was impulse.
6. But, after all, who knows, and who can say
Whence it all came, and how creation happened?
the gods themselves are later than creation,
so who knows truly whence it has arisen?
7. Whence all creation had its origin,
the creator, whether he fashioned it or whether he did not,
the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven,
he knows - or maybe even he does not know.
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To summarize: The gods came after creation, and the creative force that all existence springs from (Brahman) might know, or maybe not know, where reality originates. This is an agnostic-atheist hymn in a polytheistic framework about the one god. All bases covered.
However, there's also the Hiraṇyagarbha Sūkta, 121st hymn of the tenth book of the Rig Veda. This hymn is about Hiraṇyagarbha, the great Golden Egg/womb that is self-existent. The deity of the hymn is the named Prajāpati. The Upanishads calls it the Soul of the Universe, or Brahman. Hiraṇyagarbha floated around in emptiness and the darkness of the non-existence for about a year, and then broke into two halves which formed the Svarga (heaven) and the Pṛthvi (earth). In Modern science its often compared with principle of big bang theory, where its considered that world is emerged from a single point.
In classical Purāṇic Hinduism, Hiraṇyagarbha is the term used for the "creator". Hiraṇyagarbha is equal to the god Brahma, so called because it is said he was born in a golden egg (Manu Smṛti 1.9). Therefore, the Prajāpati mentioned in the Hiraṇyagarbha Sūkta is none other than Brahma, which is a name and form of Brahman.
It's all very complicated sounding, but I assure you it's not.
As me anything.
Are you Hindu?
Suspicious. The Guru I have says that anyone who says that we are god is influenced by demons.
What does "Gi-ah-nah (The "nah" tone decends) Omhn" mean?
@@simonlu5141 Are you asking about jñāna yoga? In Indian philosophy and religions, jñāna is "knowledge".
The idea of jñāna centers on a cognitive event which is recognized when experienced. It is knowledge inseparable from the total experience of reality, especially the total or divine reality (Brahman).
The root ज्ञा- jñā- is cognate to Slavic znati, English know, as well as to the Greek γνώ- (as in γνῶσις gnosis) and Lithuanian žinoti. Its antonym is अज्ञान ajñāna "ignorance". Jñāna sometimes transcribed as gyaan, means "knowledge" in Sanskrit. The root jñā- is cognate to English know, as well as to the Greek γνώ- (as in γνῶσις gnosis). Its antonym is ajñāna "ignorance".
Gebo dagaz fehu! (Gift of clarity and financial prosperity)
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I love this video, Thank you
This is a super interesting theory, your videos keep getting better and better man keep up the good work.
Great video, thanks for sharing these small details that open some great thoughts in my head!
It's an interesting video, but I'm not convinced. Around the late 3rd century a religion that worshipped Sol Invictus rose in the Roman empire. Constantine the great (before his conversion to Christianity) worshipped Sol Invictus, and we know that the Roman Empire around that time was in close contact with Germanic tribes. In fact many of the legionaires were Germanic people. A bit later the legions fought under the Chi Rho symbol that was a symbol of Christ that showed in a dream to Constantine. To many - especially in the beginning - this symbol would be mixed with the Sol Invictus religion since Sol Invictus merged with Christianity which is one of the reasons that the sun in Christianity is a symbol of Christ.
It's not difficult to imagine these soldiers bringing back the belief in Sol Invictus to their villages and tribes up north. Especially since Constantine was a very powerful emperor, and the Roman empire still seemed very powerful in the 3rd century (although cracks were beginning to show). These veterans would have served for at least 16 years in the Roman army. You can almost see these veterans sitting around the fire in their villages and telling everyone about their many adventures and talk about the powerful almighty god who secured them the victory over their enemies. This happened about 500 years before the viking age.
I think it's much more likely that this "ancient one god" could be remnants of the belief in Sol Invictus - or perhaps a simplified form of Christianity - that was brought back to Scandinavia around the 3rd century and was then shared and implemented in the local religions. Snurri writes around 1200 if I recall, so that would have been almost 1000 years later. Certainly not difficult to imagine that this "ancient one god" was just a part of Roman religion that was imported almost 1000 years earlier which would have seemed ancient to Snurri.
Fascinating. Thank you!
I have to agree with you no one has it right, I'm just tired of those who think they do 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻
Thank you!!!
Glad I'm not the only one.
This is why I love your channel 👍🏼🍻
I always liked Lovecraft's description of all powerful entities. Yog-Sothoth and Azathoth for example. Hidden knowledge?
Aye, Lovecraft was one of very few people who wielded the true horror of religion
Religion isn't a "comfort" as atheists say, it is a warning of the wrath of cosmic powers far beyond our own
Yes. Thank you. Connecting the inner soul journey and the search for a higher purpose of all and one. Great work and research. Thank you.
Well personally I do think that the Nordic Heathens had an ultimate God... and his name is Odin. Everyone nowadays tries to deny it but I figure they're just coping because they don't like Berserkers, or anybody else who can be a grown man and act of his own accord. But I recall Odin claiming for himself the appellation "Omi", which I think means "the resounding one" but essentially in a linguistic sense it means "the one who is Om". Also it states in the Grimnismal that "Odin is the best of all holy gods." and I recall that the Lombards named him Godan, which means the chief of the Godas or gods. I think that makes him as fully qualified as any other "monotheistic" creator deity, because those other deities are also referred to as "king of heaven".
I've read elsewhere that Odin was once called "Iormunr", a derivation of "Irmindeot" or Irmin Gott. Basically this is referring to Irminsul, which was the cosmic pillar or "world tree". In Norse the world tree is called Yggdrasil, and another Norse name for Odin is Ygg. Besides, it is said that Odin gave "Ond" to humans. I think that "Ond" is a cognate with the word "soul". Theologically, the only deity who can bestow soul has to be either the ultimate creator, or an avatar of that creative, life-giving force, or the agent working directly on its behalf. So as I see it, Odin is the ultimate Lord. There are other clues I could give, such as his ability to use magic songs and runes to shape reality or change things spontaneously, which is similar to the way ancient Hindus and Abrahamists believe that God creates things (with his voice) but I suppose I should stop there. You can tell me if you think I'm wrong, but in my heart I'm always going to think that Odin is the Lord. I don't really think that humans can confine divinity to our own systems of mental logic, but my instincts tell me that Odin is both the vital creative force and all of the inspired manifestations of it.
Even back then nobody liked berserkers.
@@asgrim1513 Nobody has ever liked religious fanatics. Look up Charles Gordon. Also, Jesus was never liked until after he died.
I believe that all of them are aspects, faces, of the one Almighty. Our little tiny brains cannot even comprehend what those pieces really are, let alone the all encompassing force behind them.
My two cents.
Ofc Odin is the allfather. But this is not what the subject is about. The question is what created all things that existed prior to the events that took place in the ginnunagap. Before Odin and Odin's ancestors existed. Before Nifelheim and Muspelheim. Before ginnunagapet. Who or what created these worlds that lead up to the events in the ginnunagap.
@@bomerang3748it's a null question. These are concepts that exist beyond the material, beyond time and space, beyond anything we understand the cosmos in in any physical sense. Odin is the creator. In a platonic view, I suppose what you are referring to could be The One, which is not a god, but a point from which all things, including the gods, including morality which comes from the gods, come from.
Oh, wow! Michael, thank you! I didn't know I could even learn this! My grandma was Sámi, animist but no religion or knowledge of it or any Creator being was passed to her or to me. I know of Creator from my dad's Native tradition. My grandma would just smile, & respect & believed it too, but we didn't have this knowledge at all & I didn't expect to find it here. Something made me keep looking bc Norse is next door, & bc you have sense & are grounded & understand animism.
I 😂 had to pause the video & breathe! 😂 My missing roots are right here! I'm all wowwww! 😂
❤ Thanks, man.
Your channel just went from great to amazing, to me. Thank you for doing this. Really. 😁 So cool!
Haha, I'm all happy!
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I have my beliefs but now I know there's something to research & have leads to start with. I didn't know any language or that there were deities there. Zero clues. 😂
I truly enjoy these videos and the logic they bring. I currently live in Asia and see similarities between all cultures. All seem to have a creator god. The Japanese also view the world from an animism approach.
Ive spent a long time reprogramming my mind from Christian beliefs.
I never felt home with the middle eastern beliefs... and what do you know, I do with Germanic and Norse cultures. I long to be in the outdoors and near trees.
I loved the Norway pavilion from epcot haha Love the videos! Thank you for all the insight and history!
The Bathory thumb art had me hooked
Haha! That's actually a painting from 1872 called "The Wild Hunt of Odin". Bathory used it for the fourth album.
Since my cousin and I have been watching these we've been learning a lot about things, keep it up, don't worry if I or my cousin get a little critical in the comment section we're a bit older and have experienced some things that I hope no one has to go through.
any shade against people monetizing the Sápmi culture is purely coincidental XD
anyway, i think it's almost impossible to not bear some amount of grudge against christianity for what they have done to all the other cultures
As a Christian, I really don't blame you. The most I can say is that not all Christians are imperialistic tyrants who wish death and destruction upon everyone else, but historically, we did some messed up crap in the name of our God who preached to love our enemies.... It's bad.
Not Christianity but the way of people reading and self absorbing the words or listening and hearing it in reality not.
Fascinating video. Christian influence aside, I think the original creator god (which all pagan faiths have) can vary because Norse Paganism is likely a combination of two or more faiths, a proto-Indo-European faith and a Lappish faith. There are also different creators for different creations. Like in Greek myths everything is born of Chaos, but life is born of the union between Gaia and Uranus, but mankind was given life by Prometheus. I think it's similar in the Norse traditions too. Buri would be akin to the Brahman, Heimdallr would be akin to Prometheus, however Prometheus would be seen as the creator of all mankind while legend claims Heimdallr is only the father of the three Norse tribes. He would likely be a clan totem rather than an almighty entity, though an extremely powerful clan totem deity. Tyr, despite some of the contradictions from the Prose Edda, would be the more likely candidate after Buri.
I grew up in a evangelical church where it was very common for members of the congregation to speak in “tongues” meaning babbling nonsense pretending to be possessed by the Holy Spirit or whatever…and then the pastor would “translate” what the person “said” 😂 this never sat quite right with me. Even as a small child I thought it was fake. How could a human possibly comprehend God in that way?
If you look up the seven gifts mentioned in the Bible, "Tongues" was one, but it's uses was VERY strictly given.
Someone would be 'gifted' the ability to speak in a language better understood by someone in the audience than what the messenger spoke. But, to keep the rest of the crowd from freaking out, there'd be a second translator (basically possessed) to re-translate the translation BACK into the language spoken by the original messenger.
If it sounds convoluted... that's because it is. Unnecessarily so, but the inane babble that we get today are just people with issues seaking attention and validation within their "church".
Speaking in tongues, means speaking in different languages. That’s all it means. Read Acts 2
Tongues may be light language
expirienced the same with the church though that brought me here
Thank God that Im Lutheran. At we can keep a low profile and not try to shove our beliefs down other peoples throats. Or maybe it's just the church that I go to which is located in a small town in Estonia. At least we still do it the old way.
Excellent video - thank you for this discussion! God Jul! :)
The deeper i go, the more confused I become. I have been on this path for fifteen years and seek the truth. The thought of we all worship the same God is something that has come to mind many times and yet a friend of mine and I even discussed it today. To me Odin is known as the most high, it could very well be Odin's true name. But then again all we can do is speculate, wait and see.one day if fate wills it, I would like to go to Norway and explore where the pagan last stand was and see if there is any hidden places that holds the secrets of old. As far as I know there was nine pages ripped from a book that was from the pagan age given to a Scandinavian king around the Renaissance Era maybe Earlier. But time may tell.
I believe as you've stated many times that all of our religions(Eurasia that is) derive and return back to the same place. That Proto-Indo-European steppe culture. We as a humans went our separate ways, some went East (Iranians, Afanasievo, Vedic), some went south (Aegeans, Anatolians) and some went west (Bell Beaker, Corded Ware) and in doing so, these migrations did keep the baseline of that once inhabited common area of culture but as the ages went new stories were told, languages were created or morphed and perhaps religions adapted to fit the different experiences and new areas of said peoples.
Anyway, I am not trying to step on any persons beliefs but after enough dots, you get a line.
Thanks so much Thor for this video. And also thanks for the new discord invite, have made good like minded friends there, Queen Chloe is awesome!
I've thought about that as well. Thinking I'm the Only one so it's nice to see another say that as well. About only one God that
every religion calls a different name and interprets God in their religions own "correct" way.
After about a year of watching you. I still can't get over that your vocal cadences remind me so much of Christoph Waltz lolol.
Love the sweater!😁
when paul is in athens in the new testament, he references an altar dedicated to a being known as the unknown god among the other gods. the platonists and aristotelians also spoke of the prima causa, the first mover, an infinite, impersonal source of being, the center of all reality. in the descent away from this pure oneness, duality formed, and then triplicity. we can see this idea encoded in hinduism in the divine triplicate of brahman, vishnu, and shiva, and also in the ancestral tradition in the form of muspelheim, niflheim, and ginnungagap. the greeks told of gaia mating with uranus to create the giants, as muspelheim and niflheim "mated" to create ymir, the primordial chaos, the prima materia bound into order by odin and his two brothers. the idea of oneness, then duality, then triplicate is replicated again and again through the traditions, as it is the founding pattern of reality. i really believe that norse tradition has the most explicit representation of these ideas.
What if try’s name is “god” as a taboo. Such a powerful war deity was looked upon with awe and fear that the garmanic people did not dare to mention his real name directly, so they used “tiwaz” as euphemism. This is my speculation.
I like when people can lift the veil and realize that maybe all these mythologies and religions might be talking about the same things.
My mom and I had a similar thought on this
I have a thought, maybe the god has something to do with ymir or whatever the cow was. I'm saying this because they have relationships with beginnings but I doubt this
That's what I was thinking too! I'm Christian, but as far as my understanding goes, Ymir was the first being in my ancestors religion and it was Óðinn who slew him and created either Yggdrasil or Jörð out of his remains. I could be wrong though because it's been a while since I studied the formation of the world in the Norse religion
Edit: I made my post before you mentioned Buri in your video XD
Theory - according to your videos about Buri - might it be possible, that the unnamed god was Buri? Buri is the "creator" the "maker" the "conceiver" the origin of all the aesir and their creations, while he didnt make mankind or midgard (that would be Odin and his brothers) he made them. I am not sure what Buris association with the sun would be except, that the ice age thing where Buri might be the personified land freed by cows and the sun, making more of europe habitable as the ice retreated.
Buri as the first of the Aesir (and since Jötnar and Thursae hail from Ymir, could it be Buri had another child that was the creator of the Vanir?) lso i think Buri and Brahman arent that far off linguisticly either but thats just a potential connection.
i would attribute some things to Buri - offering Milk as thats what he drank for sustenance, (Audhumbla) possible salt and ice (as he was made out of it or potentially trapped in it?)
If Buri was trapped in the ice that hints that he was there before even Ymir, making him the first being in existance. If he was created by Audhumla, could it be that Ymir is the creator god, after all he gave life out of himself and his remains are the very world we live in.
Also this might be interesting or nothing as its just a personal story but i wanted to share anyway. I am into Asatru since 21 years now. I did my research, learned old norse, read the sagas, eddas and some more mundane texts of law, i got a good overview of hinduism reading the Bhagavad Gita and learning a bit from other sources as well.
I started my journey worshipping Tyr and bloting to him, later as i learned more i used to mainly interact with the land vaettir and Freya until around 30 years of age i strongly felt Odins call. I had visions and when following Odins path i nearly died twice. I tried to become a berserker and lived through a few self induced gengrs, to the point where it permamently damaged my body and i had to fight to resist the gengr as it also was about to cost me my family (i never attacked or hurt them but just seeing me go gengr caused my wife to have genuine horror and fear in her eyes, some primal instinct to run away)
So i quit the Odin dedication and went back to focusing on the Alfar. Now last december i found this strange calling and interpreted it to be Buri. I started taking ice baths and submerging myself in actual ice and snow as much a i could naked, to get closer to the one who was trapped in ice and the calling depened. I never had a vision of Buri or any dream that called me its just an urge. When it turned 20 yearsof practise and learning i felt i should dedicate my study to one god but which? Thats when the Buri idea started.
Now, as i prepare to tis holy day of Thorri and Thor blot, as in yesterday when i asked how to blot to Buri and how to go about it i found your channel, and many answers. Just now as i am about to head out to the ritual place i felt the urge to search your channel for Buri and aside from the video you did on him (please do more) i found this one. Might not mean a thing and be coincidence but i thought id share it anyway
I read about one person who had a near death experience, she heard the name Heimdallr, and spoke to her. I dont remember what he said, but when she woke up she said she had never heard that name before. Maybe Heimdallr is the creator god.
Definitely please cover Heimdall and his whole situation.
In ancient Egyptian religion all the various deities were believed to be infinite manifestations with different functions throughout eternity of the One God Atum-Re or Ptah (depending on the religious centre) - very similarly to the idea of the gods being Brahman's manifestations in Hinduism (or even many gods being avatars of Vishnu at a smaller, "earthly" scale). Also, the Sky Father deity in many "primitive" and prehistoric cultures probably played a very similar role. This is also present in Esoteric (Tantric) Buddhism with the idea of the Buddha Mahavairocana (Dainichi Nyorai in Japan) - the absolute, universal supra-consciousness of which all the other Buddhas are either manifestations or of which they have attained knowledge (and thus have become enlightened).
For the prehistoric and ancient peoples, there was no concept of polytheism vs monotheism. Also, no pagan self-identified as such before he was called that by the Abrahamists.
Almighty Oss means Thor.
You're stretching to say that there's one God that trumps them all. This was never a thing in Norse myth.
Also you don't know that Snorri left the name of the pagan "God" out because it was some "unmentioned almighty god" according to you. That is your own hypothesis based on zero evidence.
You ascribed Jomali as some "absolute god" simply because that's what the Finns called the Christian God... this is just a case of text book conversion tactics Christians used.
All of this is very shaky and you've misinterpreted many of the myths. We know that Odin, Villi and Vei created Midgard.
Also, the Volva calls humans the children of Heimdall due to the Rigsthula where he comes down to earth to create the three classes of mankind.
Yes, regardless of research, we must always bear in mind the greater context. I personally do not trust Snorri, as a Christian he would have had a Christian agenda. I think some are too quick to praise him as an ally because he was a fan of the sagas, but he was a medieval Christian nonetheless in a time when their fanaticism rivalled modern Islamic terror groups.
Jumala as a word for god, it’s seems to be way older than christian god originating from the possible indo-european roots. Our original chief of gods was called Jumala before the forced conversion. Christians just adopted the word for their interpretation of god.
So three giant dudes created the earth and shaped human flesh out of wood? Get outta here.
@@wegfarir1963 you are looking at it way too literally, like an abrahamic cultist. So much of the Germanic pantheon and the mythology is metaphorical and archetypal. Without understanding this and animism you only get the superficial view.
@@torstenscott7571 I know. My comment is mocking, not not my literal opinion.
There's the days of the week too. First Clensing Day, then Sun Day, Moon Day, Tyr's Day, Oden, Thor and last Frigg.
I imagine that if you wanted to swear a strong oath for example you would clean your self then swear by the mighty forces in that order.
The lesson to learn from the St Olav story, the Abrahamic God is the God of deception and underhandedness. A trickster God.
And so his children 👹👺 act the same way.
Maybe i missed something, but when people had to swear that oath, what time period was it? Was it before the christian conversion? Maybe that almighty god thing was inserted due to christian influence and refers to the christian god. Or, if it was before the conversion, perhaps it was inserted into the records to make it seem as though pagans believed in an almighty god. That way, christians could be like "see, your people swore oaths to an almighty god, and we have an almighty god which must be the same god, therefore your people were already worshipping our god, so you should too!" in order to make conversion easier.
I have long thought that perhaps there was a creator/creative power that was recognized as being higher than the pantheon of pagan gods, indeed it created them as well. In this view, maybe even Dyeus Pater was not the universal creator, but simply the chief god of the I.E. pantheon.
It may seem silly to involve Tolkien in this, but the Silmarillion illustrates this idea perfectly. Ea was the creator, who brought the gods into existence to aid in his creation and to rule over it. Among these gods, Manwe was the chief.
The point is that the gods rule over the temporal universe (or multiverse); but beyond that is the incomprehensible (and hence unnamed) creative power that called it all into existence. Maybe.
Here's a question: I know Norse pagans believe Midgaard is our world. Do they think Midgaard is only this world, as in Earth, or do they think it's the entire universe?
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for sharing your history and culture. I agree with sharing what we understand on a deep, personal level. A lot of amateur ‘experts’ out there 🙃
The guy who wrote the book moved the Sámi away from tradition though. Lars Levi Laestadius, "Fragments of Lappish Mythology," "was a Swedish Sami writer, ecologist, mythologist, and ethnographer as well as a pastor and administrator of the Swedish state Lutheran church in Lapland who founded the Laestadian pietist revival movement to help his largely Sami congregations, who were being ravaged by alcoholism."
"Laestadianism, also known as Laestadian Lutheranism and Apostolic Lutheranism, is a conservative Lutheran revival movement started in Sapmi in the middle of the 19th century.
Lars Levi Laestadius (1800-1861) was a prominent revivalist and botanist with a Sámi background from northern Sweden. Since the 19th century, Laestadianism has been a well-known religious movement in northern Sweden, Finland and Norway.
The Laestadian movement started in Sweden after the spiritual reorientation of Lars Levi Laestadius, which occurred when he had been a minister of the National Lutheran Swedish Church for almost 20 years. According to the legend, the spiritual awakening is connected with Laestadius’ encounter with a young Sámi woman, Milla Clementsdotter, often called Maria.
Today, while being most prominent in Finland, it has members in the Scandinavian and Baltic countries as well as in Russia and North America and smaller congregations around the world. There are estimated 200 000 Laestadians worldwide. Laestadians are generally known for their conservative values and exclusive social identity.
Nowadays it can be characterised as a conservative movement that is still part of the Swedish Church, despite being a strong critic of many modern phenomena in the Swedish Church today.
The teachings of Laestadianism are based on the Bible and the Lutheran Confessions. Centermost among these teachings is the sermon of Jesus’ suffering, death, and victorious resurrection. The work of Jesus Christ continues in this world as the work of the Holy Spirit in Christ’s congregation. Thus the Laestadian Lutheran Church teaches of God’s kingdom and preaches repentance and the forgiveness of sins.
Laestadianism is a very severe religion; Leastedians consider themseles only true christians. They reject all sins of the outer world, such as: dancing, television, modern music, earrings, movies, tattoos. Some conservative elements within the church go even further in rejecting the ways of the world, for examples, refusing to buy insurance, prohibiting their children’s participation in organized school sports, and removing their car radios." ~Polarpedia
CAN YOU PLEASE DO A VIDEO EXPLAINING YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE JELLING STONE IN DENMARK, I JUST CAME BACK TO MY LORD AND SAVOIR JESUS CHRIST AND I AM NOW AWARE THAT I AM DESCENDENT OF THE TRIBE OF DAN! THANK YOU, IVE WATCHED A LOT OF YOUR VIDEOS!
GOD gave every poeple their culture and lives among them,obey your culture rules and God laws,
Yes God knew Abraham with his culture and God continued to live among Jacob and his son the isrealites in middle east including Dan son of slave or servant of Rachel second wife of Jacob
Danish people have their culture and God lives and continued to live with them, they don't belong to isrealites tribe, should be proud of their culture, We all see how long time we're friendly and open to other nations still are,because everyone belongs to God and we have different cultures which we follow or should follow,
Så enig med deg. Menneske kan ikke forstå fult ut hva Gud hvirkelig innebefatter.
Great video
1:24 And there's my thumbs up locked in!
No magic can happen anywhere except in the now!
To practice magic one must be awake!
Most people don't realize it but their not.
To be awake your ID, and your Conciousness must work together.
Because your conciousness is the intelligence of the Universe.
So any question can be answered at any time at the will of the Universe.
This is my magic. I stumbled upon it
while deer hunting.
This in my opinion is the most powerful magic I know of.
I was sitting against a Oak tree, pretending to be a above ground root. My mind went blank. Then I understood Universal expansion, but how did I do that?
Then I got buried in questions with the accompanying answers.
Shocking! Scary ! I thought I was losing my mind.
What happened?
I connected to the Universe that we all are.
May I suggest that waking up is the first step to Paganism.
My source The Universe!
So how do I get a jól sweater?
I am a practicing yogi and vedic (Hindu) astrologer. Brahman is the name of the supreme being found in the Upanishads and in Vedanta philosophy. Brahman being a cognate of the root "brh" as in the english word "brew" refers to that principle which pervades all things like when you brew a pot of tea the tea permeates the water. The idea is that the Supreme Conscious Entity permeates all of creation and is the source of reality. Brahman is not a deity because it is beyond attributes and physical form, it is the source of all and beyond description. In order to understand this an understanding of Sankhya philosophy is necessary. Sankhya is the foundational philosophy that forms the basis for vedic thought and i think all pagans and people in general could highly benefit fron its study. It is based on what is observable and logical. It provides a logical basis for spirituality and animism.
Thank you!
Extremely interesting. This resembles other pagan beliefs such as, the pre-Islamic Arabs in Arabia who while having many deities that they named, worshipped and erected idols of, they also believed in the concept of an all-powerful God responsible for all life and creation that they called "Allah" (which is the Arabic word for "God") and did not erect any idols to. They believed that these "minor deities" and idols were spiritual beings that helped them get closer to "Allah" and intercede on their behalf. This lends to a wider hypothesis that most if not all "pagan" religions during the ancient and medieval periods were once monotheistic religions that over a long period of time gradually diverged and developed into their own polytheistic and seemingly distinct religions.
I was born into a very strict religion, 5 generations. It wasn't until after I slowly and painfully "unbrainwashed" myself that I discovered my true feelings about a God being and the Divine. I am actually okay with not knowing specifically, but I am absolutely certain in every fiber of my being that a very universal, powerful entity is real. It feels to me as though it is actually love. Love energy, you could say. That belief is unshakable and I'm very comforted by that. An ever present knowing. It connects me to nature like no religion ever has. You look good in that sweater, btw. Love that color green. Enjoy and be well.
Look into ancient Babylonian (I can only give you a phonetic equivalent as I've only heard it, not read it): "sophia"
It's basically what you described, but it is the source of life and existence itself. I heard of it from a clip of a documentary here on RUclips some years ago and I haven't been able to find it since. But yeah, it's the source of all. The gods (as there are many) come from it and were assigned a people they were tasked with helping to guide them to their ultimate goal. Basically, and I'm kind of tired, so I apologize if I make little sense, every culture's god or gods were meant for them as the teachings handed down were meant to inspire, and guide, those people to who they were ultimately destined to be (the best they could be). There were one or two cultures who's deity assigned was also meant to contain them, so they couldn't interfere too much with the other cultures progression, but there you have a bit of it.
The ancient understanding of... divine/cosmic structure was vastly different than what we have now, but most ancient cultures more or less described a similar structure.
I started out as an agnostic but in the end I really believed that a god of any religion was non-existent and those that believed in such were fools. But then I had a transcendent experience that showed me that the universe was controlled by God that is unconditional love, but with no specific guidance to any religious tradition.
Then I was guided to an American Indian medicine man where I learned about the Great Spirit in California. They have a prophecy that says the a white brother from across the ocean would come who would show the people the way to connect to God.
Then I went to New Mexico where I started dreaming about The Christ. After reading the bible multiple times, I got the call to be Born Again. Now I am a Christian waiting for the return of Jesus.
Each person has to get the call, but for me, Christ is the Way, The Truth and the Life.
So for me, according to the teachings I learned from the American Indian teacher, Christ is the brother spoken of in the prophecy.
@@Just_Call_Me_Tim Yes, one belief is that Sophia represents the World's feminine soul, or another is she represents the feminine of God's attributes. After all, the name means wisdom. Currently, I'm in the process of studying Zoroastrianism and it's very interesting.
Were there Norse Druids. Dannu, the Goddess of the Thaua De Danna is after from the Danube. That's not far away from Scandinavia. So while I don't think there was , life is full of surprises that we can learn from.
Brahman is the ultimate reality of the entire universe.According to some sects Brahman is supreme conciousness that pervades the universes other sects believe Brahman is the universe itself with all that is in it. Brahman is God, but with a metaphysical undertone. All souls are synonymous with Brahman, and all of creation, gods and humans alike, originated from the subtle reality that is Brahman.
Dharma is that which supports Rta. Rta is natural law and cosmic order. Dharma therefore is that which agrees to natural law and promotes cosmic orders. A lions dharma is to eat other animals because it is the natural law. Part of what it means to be a lion is to be a powerful hunter. The lion’s hunting is conducive to cosmic order as the food chain is a delicate balence to be maintained. For humans, Dharma is to be compassionate, and peruse a higher understanding of the world, and better one’s self.
Also Hinduism is both Indo European and Non Indo European equally. Some aspects of the Vedic religion may not trace to Proto Indo Europeans. The idea of a supreme God doesn’t find mention in oldest text Rig Veda.
My fellow pagans, I hope this helps.
Fun fact in Kalevala Sampo was originally World pillar but meaning has changed through time ❤ps Ur Vids are Good addition to this time of lies
My ancestors' creator was a pair. In Nahuatl "to-" tacked onto a noun means "our ___", whatever the noun is.
They were called Tonan Tota' which meant Our mother Our Father.
I'm curious why an image of the Buddha was shown when speaking of "any monotheistic religion" since Buddhism doesn't fit in that category.
It was a common Catholic apologetics tactic to look for and capitalize on just the kind of similarities you describe. Not universal, but destroying older artifacts or writings is not policy, and typically comes after conversion has begun.
Maybe the term Almáttki Áss referred to the creating and governing powers combined, also known as Regin or Rǫgn, roughly translated to "powers" as in "the ruling/governing powers". An old Gode here in Denmark, I forgot his name, often used the term "Røginn Óll, Ginheilliger Gód", roughly meaning "powers of old/ancient forces of governance, holy gods".
Why is that version of the book so incredibly expensive? Are other versions as reliable?
I am an Aryan traditionalist of German descent. I have practiced the Germanic traditions for years now, but the guidance of a strict Vedic community has allowed me to travel the esoteric pathways present in the Aryan traditions which have been unfortunately lost in nearly all Western Aryan faiths. These traditions have, however, been preserved in the Vedas, as was lightly touched upon in the beginning of the video. "Hinduism" is a murky religion due to how much contamination from non-Aryan folk religion and abrahamism has been allowed over thousands of years. That is why I value my very strict Vedic community (the Vedas were the original texts of the Aryans who invaded much of central Asia). Depending on who you talk to, some say Brahman, Vishnu, or Shiva is the ultimate God. In my understanding of the Vedic tradition, Brahman is more like the spirit of God that inhabits all things. The ultimate God in the community I participate in is seen as Vishnu in his highest form, often referred to as Narayana. This perspective is supported by the Vedas, and I believe all Aryan traditions likely understood this concept as well. All other benevolent Aryan deities should be viewed with the ultimate goal of leading their devotees to the Absolute Lord. I recommend reading a traditional translation of the Bhagavad Gita if anyone would like to further understand these ideas.
Acknowledging that whatever created life must be beyond our comprehension, like you did, is a sure sign of wisdom... for those who aren't well versed, all religions are essential the same. Do good, be strong be healthy be smart be fair do what's right, we are all embedded with an internal conscious that tells us what is good or evil. Whoever and whatever is responsible for Time itself is so grand, it is unimaginable, pick a religion you like. Most need faith to follow their internal consciousness. And who knows, maybe it is as simple as one of our gods being real and 99% of us will burn for all of existence for being dumb. Either way, there is a creator. That much is very clear.
It honestly just seems like a YaHWeH Old testament name prohibition just sort of inserted by Snorri, but I also wanna think I've heard *Alamahtig was an Old Saxon name for Odin. PGmc *Ermuninaz 'Man made of greatness' "gin-ormous"? aslo a certain "Irmin" and was one of three supposed progenitors. Arminius was a cultic devotee of some archaic form of ON Jormunr?
How we come to understand the stories could majorly change how the story goes say christians heard the story, and vikings seen visions, while Buddha wouldve interacted through forms of meditation
I think this is the ultimate truth. The recognition that we are all appreciating, communing, and/or worshipping with this higher power. I respect every religion, so long as they allow others the space to do the same their own way. We are all seeking the ultimate, highest truth, and we should cooperate and share and love to do so. I personally align with Nordic Animism, but I love all religions, especially indigenous religions and Buddhism and Hinduism.
Same! EXACTLY!!!! I also align to the Norse anamism and the Tibetan Buddhism and Hinduism. I meditate and feel the energy and I also practice necromancy and vril. Many blessings and returns to you and yours✌🏻🤍🌟
Perhaps the reason why the subject is inconclusive is because a one true creator god is without shape where all the gods that have shape are each one representative characteristic. Being that the gods act in concert with one another and shamans can invoke a particular god if they desire a particular attribute. If i am to understand correctly.
I am trying to learn.
Aye, it makes me wish that life came with a tutorial mode. Or an introduction. With any hope, or luck, we'll all get our answers with the end credits. Until then, freedom and truth. Skål! 🍻
Formerly from a Christian background, split 2 denominations, but moreso now drawing parallels between every religion, I've been coming to speculate that "God" is just the whole collective consciousness to everything. Everything that is finite and not infinity in it's entirety is only a fragment to the whole. Meaning all of life plus matter plus energy plus however many dimensions and multiverses there are, "God" would be all of it. Whether it has intention or not, would be debatable and unknown in any perspective that isn't EVERY perspective.
the divine source, the monad, the godhead, the dreamer, whose emanations are lesser divinity and creators of the material universe.
Legit paganism all recognized the One Most High, but this is esoteric knowledge in modern times. The exoteric pagan ways are that there is no 'God Most high.' There is a reason why the truth is oft hidden within the esoteric recesses of humanity's collective knowledge.
I don't think it's any of the named "polytheistic" deities is this Allmákti Áss, because they're too particular. By name, Tyr would come the closest, because his name is equivalent to "God", but the fact that he had such specific attributes such as losing one of his hands makes me think that he's a more specific deity. The almighty supreme God was probably not named anything other than the title of being an Almight God.
I was thinking about the difference between monotheistic religions and polytheistic religions especially the one my people believed in. All have somekind of idea of first creator God. The main difference is that the monotheism extends the title of god only to the "first one" whereas the polytheistic religions use notion of god to describe multiple supernaturally powerful beings. But all the monotheistic religions have other immensely powerful spirits that do the bidding of the God. They are not called gods but malakim or angelos as "servant" who are ranked by power. The ones on the very top manage matters like God's military power and other somekind of data management delivering wisdom to humans. In polytheistic religions these would be Gods. But is the difference then except wording?
It seems that the only massive difference between polytheism and monotheism is how these supernatural creatures are conceptualized.
Nothing to add. I just love your channel and the content. Love getting to know more about my Norse roots.