Using a Cheap Amazon Masonry Hole Saw
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- Hanperal 65mm SDS Plus Shank Hole Saw Cutter Concrete Cement Stone Wall Drill Bit (Amazon Affiliate)
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I made a second video with this bit drilling through half of a cinder block: ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.html
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First time watcher. Thanks for sharing your experience using the hole saw. I initially thought that you were going to use just the hole saw but I'll remember how to help one make the hole if it can't do it alone.
Great video!! Based on this video, I bought this same affordable masonry hole saw from Amazon and used it to easily bore a clean round hole in a brick chimney to install a replacement water heater. My hammer drill has a standard 1/2" chuck and did not match the special end, but I was able to fit it in anyway, slightly off center, and it worked just fine. Many thanks!!! :)
Very good tips, drilled around the perimeter. Learning something new. Thank you.
8:13 I think the other hole-saw with steel and carbide is meant for marble and granite using the wet drilling method.
I was considering renting one and was looking up videos first. This came up and I immediately bought one from amazon. I did buy a set though. Thanks so much for making this video.
Good idea on making relief cuts before starting the main hole cut
Thanks for the tip re drilling relief holes, currently drilling hard stone walls in sw france for a rewire. Tct wont cut it but diamond does, relief holes make job go quicker
This type of bit should be used in a rotary hammer mode drill. Not just rotary. Diamond core bits require rotary mode only. The extra step of drilling out small holes is not worth the time especially into brick. If it was very hard cement or the bit was very dull from drilling thru rebar then maybe. But that’s in a pinch. Other wise these types of bits will work well with a little blowout on back side of hole. And even drill thru rebar. With some definite wear on bit for doing so.
Hard 'concrete'
Yes . With drilling around the perimeter , which is nit necessary , that core bit will last a long time . Especially when drilling through soft brick .
I've drilled through concrete with aggregate with that bit and it worked fine .
This video is not a true test of that bit's ability .
Bought two because they are so damn cheap and I got a little bit of a discount for buying two as opposed to one. Sump pump storm drainage project. One hole through cinder block and one hole through a curb. I think it's going to work just fine. They look pretty heavy duty and the price is ridiculously inexpensive.👍
Used a tungsten carbide core bit to cut a hole in a paving slab for a rotary washing line socket worked well from the UK 🇬🇧
@@epiphgd4302 blacker and decker sds not expensive one not sure if they are still made.
Great tips with the relief holes
Thank you!
That tip right there makes this video, its a perfect idea I too am getting a cheap whole saw I need to drill exactly one hole. This is perfect
Thank you sir, great video!
Wow that thing worked pretty good. I wonder if adding a little water would help it even more.
I don't know if it was my technique (total novice) or the bit... But it took me over an hour using a corded, Mikita, hammer drill (rented from Home Depot) with this bit. Same application as the author; brick facade. I used the hammer function 99% of the time. Anyway... I eventually got through.... Definitely took more than 9 minutes though! Not looking forward to having to do THAT again!
Superb, thanks for a really useful video.
I have 2 of these for running 2" and 3" pvc through masonry for furnace exhaust/fresh air I probably have about 10 feet worth of different masonry material on the 65mm and the teeth are just starting to round off, will sharpen them and try for ten more feet.
It would be interesting to see how these hold up compared to the > $100 models.
@@Rickmakes I think the only factor would be the grade of carbide used for teeth. Maybe the $$$ ones would be a little lighter.
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Newer drills like the Bosch sds amd sds max have kickback control, to stop it breaking your wrist.
Yeah, this drill was Hilti's first rotary hammer drill model. It was light on features. I'm amazed it still works.
I bought this with the same idea. It’s cheap but I only need one hole for a dryer vent. My issue is I have to go through brick and then block after that. Hopefully it makes it through
This helps a lot 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Did You have it ob hammer setting? What type of drill bit mount is that? How much is that drill?
thanks great vid and nice bit for $19!
Sorry I have to piggy-back, but Google makes it very difficult to post comments. I really appreciate RickMakes posting this video. Lots of good tips. However, I wish he'd addressed the possibility of using water to cool and lubricate the drilling.
I used this drill hamuur core from 15 years its good and cheap $5 only
Do you need to use the hammer action?
What if I want to use a similar budget bit on a steel-reinforced concrete wall?
Thank You.
Welcome!
Two things that should be emphasized. This is SDS Plus, and the power tool is using the roto hammer setting. This bit is not for drilling, it is for roto hammering a hole.
I just did 16 holes in concrete, hammer turned off, but I wet the bit and hole
Lock washer just comes right out on these.
Just about to do something similar. Cheers
Thanks for the video
No problem!
Bought a 4” version and used it today to go through one layer of brick for an exhaust vent. I drilled a small pilot hole inside going out then used the 4” hole saw to go outside in like you did. Drilled the extra relief holes as well. Worked great and the vent fit perfectly and looked very professional. Would have never tried it without this video. Thank you again!!!
Thank you.
Welcome!
Great video, just bought the same bit to go through brick & block wall. Never thought about the relief holes! Would you recommend going through the center of 1 brick or going through the mortar joint and half each of 2 bricks?
I used a starter bit on the mortar joint. Then just went for it with this. I cut really good. Just make your battery is fully charge
We got the best and newest Hilti tools in the biz. An let me tell you, it still takes a man to run em. The clutches are their so they only break your arms or face and wont rip them off. But it maybe takes us literally 60 seconds to drill through something like that using a Hilti 70 and a Hilti bit. An we would never waste time drilling all those smaller holes. Plus your asking for trouble doing that because the surface is now jagged so it will cause massive twist on the drill because the concrete is stronger than the hold you have on it.
Thanks for the input! If I was drilling holes like this for a living, I would definitely want a better setup. I did another video recently drilling a hole through a cinder block: ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.html I didn't drill holes around the perimeter for that video. Based on a comment from this video, I did remove the pilot bit once it got started. I also didn't use the hammer on that video, just straight drilling. I've had people commenting that I should or shouldn't have hammer on. You seem to know your stuff. What is your take on that?
@@Rickmakes always pilot inside to out and always use hammer drill unless worried about blow out or front chipping. But a way to solve that is to turn hammer off, start your bore then switch it on and you'll have a clean round hole.
@@miguellavoie4373 why is it important to pilot inside to out?
I need to drill and cut a 2.5 " hole on a block wall or massorny, do you think that this tool would cut through and do the work more easily.
I think this would work well on block wall or masonry.
Good video!
Nice job,
How do you take the large drill bit-the cylinder one off the shaft? I could take it apart from the shaft after the drilling.
I don't have the bit right in front of me but if I recall correctly, it has a slotted set screw.
Well done mate very useful test (y)
It would work with brick but concrete is a different story. I hardly managed to do 1/2 inch in 30 mins before giving up on concrete. You need the diamond bit
I tried it on a (60yr old) cinder block and it went through pretty easy: ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.html I would love to try it on some concrete but I don't have any that needs a hole at this time.
I had the same idea to try this same kit because I need to drill 1 hole in the side of the house for a electrical lb. I've drilled for about 2 hours, dry at first,then with a mist of water on the bit,and I am barely through the first brick (2 total). The pilot bit goes through like butter on hammer drill but you are only suppose to use the core bit on regular mode and it is taking forever. It seems to cut slightly better with water and I have tried very slow drilling (rpm's) and mid range. I would not personally recommend this kit, but you had better luck than I did.
Hammer mode
You did not have to pre drill the outside ring, but if you dip into water to cool cage.
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Woulda been cool to see how the bit performed with out predrilled reliefs, it would be nice to know that Taking that time is worth it.
Then compared it to Diablos Speed Core bit. The 2-9/16" is only 50, 60. You used Roto hammer right or a hammer drill?
I used roto hammer in this video. I have another video where I don't pre-drill holes and don't use roto hammer mode: ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.html
Looking at going through a 10 inch foundation wall. The depth of your bit looked to be about 2-3 inches deep. How does one break the cement off so its possible to drill through a 10 inch cement wall with a 3 inch deep pocket bit?
I would use a cold chisel and a drilling hammer to remove pieces every 2-3 inches. You could also drill a pilot hole through the whole wall and drill in from each side with the hole saw. You would still have to chisel out the center a bit but it might be a little easier. I would probably use the hole saw to score the circle it is going to cut. Then drill any number of holes in the middle area. This would make it easier to chisel out later.
Typically a rotary hammer will have an 'impact only' setting. First you bottom out the core bit then switch out a chisel, break up and remove the slug. Rinse, repeat.
@@pescatoralpursuit1726 This model came out over 50 years ago. The Hilti TE17 was the first electro-pneumatic rotary hammer produced. It works amazingly well for its age but it doesn't have a hammer only mode.
Concrete
I have the same thing , however, I lost the pilot bit and nut in the wall. Mine did not come with a lock washer. Perhaps that’s what I need for mine.
Probably didn’t set the set screw on the flat part of the pilot bit
Ok, not bad, especially when you are not doing this everyday, I think it's worth to use a cheaper tool.... and definitely, having a Hilt hammer drill is a big plus !
It's a great drill. Still holds up after 50 years.
was the drill on rotary hammer mode when you used the core bit, or just rotary mode?
I used the hammer mode but it is my understanding that I should have used just the rotary mode. In the end I was able to drill my hole and the bit didn't break. If I need to drill another, I'll probably just try rotary alone first. Either way I will still drill smaller holes around the perimeter first.
@@Rickmakes thanks for the reply, yes they are meant to be used just in rotary mode, I use them for installing split unit air conditioners.
glad it worked for you :)
Thx for the video, great info!
Can I use regular impact hammer drill or I need something better?
This bit has an SDS shank on it so you need a drill that works with it. You might be able to find an adapter if necessary. You don't need the hammer. I read comment from different people saying you should or shouldn't use hammer mode. It does drill without hammer.
@@Rickmakes thank you 😊
We have used this bit to drill roughly 30 holes
Nice! Easily got your money out of it.
helllo, dude, I have the exact things you showed here, the shank and concrete core bit. What happened to me is after the first use, the shank cannot be detached from the core bit. Do you have any comment or suggestion? Thank you in advance.
I would try whacking it with a hammer a few times on the side of the core bit on the end near the threads. Maybe this will loosen it up. If that doesn’t work, you could try putting the shaft in a vice and sticking a rod (like a screwdriver) in the hole of the core bit. Then hit it with a hammer in the direction to unthread it. Needless to say, be careful as things can go flying when you hit them with a hammer.
@@Rickmakes Hi, dude, none of them works. The shank is made of absolute pure steel. Too hard and slippery. Even a vice cannot grip it. I decide to weld 2 piece of 3/4" hex nuts on the shank by removing those threads inside the nuts first. After that is done, separate the shank and core will be a cinch. Thanks for your suggestions anyway.
I had one it’s work very well but I can’t remove the bit from it adapter.... it’s stuck!
TheOlddoggie The center bit? You could try giving it a few light taps with a hammer but it could chip the carbide.
Hi RickMakes, did it as per your instruction!! It’s works! Thanks!!
@@TheOlddoggie next time put your drill on hammer mode(doesnt spin) and hold the bit then press the button on the drill it will easily come out without damaging your bit
ItsBanko thanks for tips!!!
How much power must the drill have for a 65mm and a 90mm?
These hole saws use an SDS shank. I'm guessing pretty much any drill with an SDS chuck would be able to drill a 65mm or 90mm hole. SDS chucks aren't generally used on smaller, weaker drills.
Depends entirely on how much time you want to spend drilling
I also got this 65mm hole saw for making a hole in 9 inch brick wall I used a Lacela Rotary Hammer , 222403, 720 watts. I had difficulty in making the hole which I ultimately made. Initially I scribed the circumference through the saw. Then I made four to five full length hole through another masonry bit (it was thicker then 5/16). I also made the center hole through. But when I started to use the saw and after moving some distance the saw would Jam and the drill would be rotating inside maybe its impact hammer function was slipping over because torque of jammed core bit would exceed its power. Ultimately I made the hole using the chisel bit provided with the drill in hammer mode and making almost 10 through holes in circumference. The result was a hole but not the fine looking one get with core bit. I have few questions maybe experts may help me.
For making the center hole my masonry bit was larger than 5/16. Do using larger through center hole can make the bit wobble or it has no effect?
Was my drill adequate for this purpose? I am interested in hearing the answer for this if the expert look at the specifications of my model.
This hole was for installing a drain pipe on roof. So I was holding the bit almost touching the floor and also a little downward force for slope. Do someone think that the unequal reaction from floor was making the saw jam?
Lastly now that I have made the hole and I want to install a nominal 3" inch pipe (~88mm) for drain. How do I fill the around the pipe for complete sealing and strength.
Thank you 😊
What happens when you run into steel bars? Will it cut through?
I haven't tried that. Unfortunately I don't think I have any reinforced concrete to test it on.
@@Rickmakes hi man, I can confirm that it does cut through steel bars and it does that pretty easily, I just drilled in my basement for vent installation in my apartments and it does a very good job drilling through reinforced concrete.
@@PhysicsViolator Thanks for sharing that! I was curious about this but had no easy way to test it.
Did you use hammer action when using the diamond hole saw??
The other hole saw is carbide. I think I used hammer with it.
Is there an Amazon link for the bit?
Yep! amzn.to/2KKDPex I have it and others in the video description.
can this use for tiles?
This might work on some tile but the better tool would be a diamond hole saw. You can get them pretty cheap on Amazon. You want to use something like a spray bottle with water to keep the bit cool.
$19? Bargain...I was impressed you drilled so many holes to help it.. I mean't it sounded like a bargain..after watching this..I went to Lowes and bought a Spyder 2" 51mm concrete block/brick hex 10 Tungsten/carbide and the necessary Spyder Hex10 Pilot drill and arbor...the drill/arbor was $19.98 and the hole saw $14.98. I have a concrete block wall with stone face ...and I worked through the block ok..the stone was REAL SLOW ..about half way through I hit it with a cold chisel...coming out the outside wall..and the stone luckily split in two..leaving me a clean 2" hole (but it could've detached the stone). To cut through stone I would need diamond I think. I had to do this right away or I would have ordered Amazon...thanks for the video.
Is $19 expensive or cheap? I've seen similar bits for $100+ at Home Depot.
You should turn hammer action off when using a core drill bit
Yeah. I don't have a whole lot of experience with these. It would be nice if I had a large concrete slab to practice on.
@@Rickmakes and always make sure your drill your using has a clutch if you were to hit a wall tye with a standard drill you could do your self some serious damage I've seen someone snap there wrist when the core bit snags on something
No clutch on this old drill. The TE17 was Hilti's first hammer drill released over 50 years ago. It still holds its own but doesn't have any fancy (i.e. safety) features. I wish it has chisel only mode. I mostly use it to drill 1/4" holes in cinder block walls.
@@sidofmidd thanks for the advice
Diamond, yes. However, this type of bit is for rotary impact.
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A 2 lb hammer wouldve been the cheapest way I do hvac ive got hammer drills with some pretty good bits but if its just a layer or 2 a good couple spacks with a 2lb hammer will nock a damn near perfect hole for a 2” pvc pipe
I don't have much practice with a hammer and chisel on brick. I wonder if my wife would notice if I practiced on the back of the house. ;) My HVAC guy cut out a brick and covered it with a plate. It has held up pretty good and doesn't look too bad.
RickMakes yea you gotta get the hit right or you’ll bust out too much and then you get to play brick mason haha
Shank
how to drill 30 cm thick wall ?
Use the 3 P's methods.......perspiration, perseverance and patience
Wouldn't it have been easier to drill from inside rather than outside below the ground?
There are pros and cons to each method. I was easily able to locate where to drill outside because this hole was adjacent to some AC lines. Otherwise I would have at least drilled my pilot hole from the inside. If I drilled from the inside, I would have had to hold the drill above my head. I would have also had to drill through the sill and then there is a gap between it and the brick. This would have made it hard to chisel out the center and remove it. I could have drilled in from both directions as opposed to chiseling out the core. Finally, drilling outside kept the dust outside. :)
You drill the “face side,” for aesthetics. Much nicer to have a cheat penetration to look at from the outside.. dummy
That Hilti worked a lot better once you put it in forward huh?
The Hilti only goes forward. It doesn't have reverse or a hammer only mode. Did it look like it was in reverse? Video can do that.
How to open it back
Are you having trouble getting the hole saw off the arbor, or something else?
You must use water while making hole
Water is used for diamond hole saws. This is tungsten carbide. It is used dry.
I was hoping you could just use it to drill it all through without drilling release holes around the bricks.
I have a video where I drill into concrete without pre-drilling holes: ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.html
You pretty much asked nothing out of that bit with pre drilling absolutely everything
I have a video where I don't pre-drill: ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.htmlsi=tMUoUdLAQizfbQMd How many holes will it drill? Who knows.
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oh no................I didn't show you a close up of the bit BEFORE I used it.....well.....take my word for it.......................
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that is a core (or coring) bit. It is not a hole saw. You do not use hole saws in concrete or masonry
Or you could of drilled the test hole from the inside
Yes. I had some AC lines to reference off of but if I didn't, I might have started inside first.
You could blow the brick face off, (I've done it) always drill from the finished side.
I do installations daily, drill 4 inch holes thru walls using drills up to core drills and we always drill test hole from inside. You can "blow the brick off" but only a small piece. There's an art to not doing that as well. You always drill test holes from inside out. There's more obstacles in inside.
No, don't with the relief holes, dude...??
I have a similar video where I drill through a cinder block and don't use relief holes: ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.html
You're new to this, aren'tcha?
I’ve been waiting for a year for your video. Anybody? Anybody?
You're obviously paid by the hour!, why so many holes for a little 2 "
I gotta say, this hole saw cut way better than the previous hole saw I was using. I made another video a few weeks ago cutting a hole in a cinder block. Didn’t use hammer or drill relief holes for that one. ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.html I do think relief holes can be helpful with a weak drill or bad hole saw.
This tool is cutting congreate and inside steel
I don't have any reinforced concrete to try it on. I did a more recent video using it on a cinder block: ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.html
@@Rickmakes : i see mixed opinions in these comments regarding use if "hammer" mode with carbide tipped bits. What is the best practice??m
PLEASE BE AWARE . wear ear protection ,while drilling on my brick house using this exact tool give me ringing on my ears it’s been almost 6 months and I regret not using ear protection every day
Not a good representation as you drilled pilot holes first just my opinion but TCT may well have worn more if you hadn't
Here is a video I did drilling through a cinder block without pre-drilling any holes: ruclips.net/video/vs2jcv9F36A/видео.html
I want but my home India
I found a couple of different models available on Amazon in India. They look similar to the one I am using. www.amazon.in/s?k=65mm+SDS+Plus+Shank+Hole+Saw+Cutter&ref=nb_sb_noss Some of those had bad buyer ratings so make sure you check that out before you order. They also had some shorter shanks on some so be aware of that.
@@Rickmakes thanks
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Only thing I see if your cheap hilti 😂 you didn't need to do the 9 holes.. Get a better hilti model. I got expensive bits vs cheap bits. I see no difference 🙄
For being a dinosaur, this drill is very smooth. If I was drilling holes for a living, I might look into a newer model.
The Hilti high quality drill
You won't know how to drill a hole in a pound of butter
If you want to drill butter, I would recommend freezing it first. That way it holds its shape better.
you did so many things wrong. 1st you don't use a hole saw on hammer. 2. you should remove the pilot bit after you score the hole 1/2" or so. if you don't the bit will jam up in the hole. I could go on lol
Thank you. I appreciate the feedback. If you have anymore tips or techniques, please let me know. I don't think it is ever too late to learn.
Pretty sure you are wrong. Carbide teeth hole saws for masonry are meant to be used on hammer rotary mode that is why one disadvantage of them is a bust out on the opposite side. A diamond hole saw is to be used on rotary only-no hammer, but are very effective and give a very clean hole.
I'll back up, I just saw conflicting instructions on the tungsten carbide tooth hole saws. One company said to use hammer and the other said not to. But considering the disadvantage is back side blow out, it seems the hammer function would cause that. Still a decent diamond drill will do a better job, imo.
cheater
Drilling the hole around the perimeter or some other part?
How constructive!
You don't know how to drill at all
kg kb Thanks for the feedback. What advice can you give me?
How constructive!
@@Rickmakes : That is great response. I will remember it when someone trolls me on a jobsite.
Un professional at all .. just to upload video
You don't know how to use a core bit..
I'm probably lacking in masonry skills in general. Maybe I shouldn't have bought a brick house.
Made in China. ☹
Yes. Definitely. I'm not sure if any US companies are making hole saws like this in the US. Do you know of any?
man i got the core cup stuck on arbor how to unscrew them?!!
You can sometimes tap the side of the core cup with a hammer to help loosen up the threads. You could also try clamping a vice grip to the arbor and use channellocks on the cup to give you leverage.