France Math Olympiad Question | Exponential Problem | Find x, y, z

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @BossDropbear
    @BossDropbear 17 дней назад

    56 in Boolean 111000. Ans 5,4 3.

  • @garydetlefs6095
    @garydetlefs6095 17 дней назад

    It took me like 10 seconds to figure out the 32 + 16 + 8 = 56 so we have 3,4,5
    I guess the main question is, is there some analytic way to figure out problems like this when the numbers are much larger... Since two to the power of 6 is 64 it is a fairly straightforward matter to check and guess numbers under six. Try setting up the same type of problem but replace 56 with a 12-digit number

  • @pspprabhat
    @pspprabhat 17 дней назад +1

    56=32+16+8
    =2^×+2^y+2^z
    =>(×=5>y=4>z=3)
    An assimulation only

    • @SchoolClassMath
      @SchoolClassMath  17 дней назад

      Basis is all needed in every work of life..... before even mentioning an alternative. This is where we all begin from. Thanks, nice 👍 observation

  • @mehdizangiabadi-iw6tn
    @mehdizangiabadi-iw6tn 17 дней назад

    Finally everything is correct but 34+32=66 and 56 is correct

  • @asterixx6878
    @asterixx6878 17 дней назад +2

    Assuming that x is a positive integer, it takes about 10s to realize that a solution is (x, y, z) = (3, 4, 5).

    • @SchoolClassMath
      @SchoolClassMath  17 дней назад

      What if x is not.....how long is it likely to take ?

    • @asterixx6878
      @asterixx6878 17 дней назад +1

      @@SchoolClassMath Is it stated in the problem what kind of numbers x, y and z are? It should be, otherwise the problem is poorly formulated.
      If x, y and z are arbitrary real numbers, there are infinitely many solutions. If they are positive integers, there is only one solution (which one should perhaps prove).

    • @TheMarkw758
      @TheMarkw758 17 дней назад

      ​@@asterixx6878 Actually, there are 3! = 6 answers depending on the order of x, y, and z.

  • @SusieDK
    @SusieDK 16 дней назад

    No complicated math is needed to solve the problem if the solution are entirely integers.
    As well x, y and z has to be 5 or less (as 2^6 = 64) Let’s try setting z to 5: 2^x + 2^y + 2^5 = 56 This means 2^x + 2^y + 32 = 56 leading to 2^x +2^y = 24.
    Both x and y must be less than 5 (as 2^5 = 32). Let’s try setting y to 4: 2^x + 2^4 = 24. This means 2^x + 16 = 24 leading to. 2^x = 8.
    It is now easy to see that x must be 3 (as 2^3 = 8).
    The three exponents (x,y,z) are 3, 4 and 5. It is not possible to say “which is which”, any combination will work.
    The method might seem complicated, but is done by head is seconds. 😁

    • @SchoolClassMath
      @SchoolClassMath  16 дней назад

      I think there must be a general way of solving problems....whatever the value of x, y, z be it whole numbers or decimal fractions, even complex numbers

    • @SusieDK
      @SusieDK 14 дней назад

      @@SchoolClassMath There probably is. However to determine the value of three variables you would need three equations. In this case using a general way seems a bit like "crossing the river to get water". 😊

  • @lusigijustus7274
    @lusigijustus7274 17 дней назад +3

    Just work out the equation.I hope you dont teach young students because you are the type of teachers who make working out mathematical problems a nightmare. Talking too much explaining nothing.

    • @pspprabhat
      @pspprabhat 17 дней назад

      @@lusigijustus7274
      For 3 unknown variables
      With one eqn ???.
      Thanks!!!!

    • @SchoolClassMath
      @SchoolClassMath  17 дней назад

      The actual problem is, students are in different degrees, not just assimilating at the same rate....this calls for full explanation

  • @MannyCaruana
    @MannyCaruana 16 дней назад +1

    "quickly and effectively" you say. Rubbish I say. Even ignoring the infinite number of solutions where the variables are not integer such as x=0, y=0, z=log to base 2 of 54. There are 6 different integer solutions, so your long-winded method 'proving' x=3 is more probably wrong as there are twice as many alternative answers, namely x=4 or x=5. x, y and z are indeed 3, 4 and 5, but the order cannot be determined with the information provided. You fail.