The actor who is playing Ser Simon is one of this season’s MVPs, and it was awesome to get a look at Stormcloud. Loved that Paddy finally invaded Daemon’s dreams and the shot of him breaking down after the second dream was really well done. Having Seasmoke being lonely and picking his old rider's half-brother kinda works. We’re on the brink of a major battle and things are falling into place for an exciting ending. Let me know what you think.
Are you referring to Sheep Stealer in regards to the wild dragon at the Vale? I think Rhaena will get a different story and end up with a dragon. Just a hunch.
I love that the actor that plays Ser Simon is also a Sir Simon in real life and they use his title in the credits. He was fantastic on Penny Dreadful, truly one of the most talented actors ever!
I absolutely loved everyting going on in King's Landing in this episode... the emphasis on the smallfolk , Larys conversation with Aegon, Aemond's council sessions, Alicent and Gwayne talking about Daeron the daring and Otto Hightower etc even though i'm team black the greens are so much more interesting and entertaining to watch also Olivia Cooke is so good as Alicent.
She smacked the absolute shit out of that guy who was trying to say “I told you so” for the thousandth time, and I probably watched that smack 5 times because I loved it so much. 😂
If you watch the behind the scenes stuff at the end of the episode and the episode of the House that Dragons Built that goes with this episode of HotD, you would see that they indeed actually brought Paddy back. And he’s not just saying the same exact lines as before, there are subtle differences that convey more about Daemon’s psyche/are the result of Alys’ manipulation of him.
I know it got a little repetitive the last episodes with Daemon's story, but this made it feel like it was worth the wait. If he's going to have a believable character arc, it makes sense for us to feel how long and unsettling his time away really has been. If it was just touched on and implied that he was going through so much for so long, I don't think his (possible) growth/change would be as convincing. This was a great episode all around!
In the original throne room scene in season one, Viserys is considerably more angry with Daemon. In this scene, he's more saddened by his brother's acts of betrayal. I think that's because Daemon is framing the moment through his own feelings of guilt etc.
I think the scene where Seasmoke was "crying" over the ocean and Mysaria said "Maybe he's lonely" was SeaSmoke mourning the death of Laenor. He died. There's no other explanation. Which is why Seasmoke suddenly started creeping on her next boo.
Also, if you compared Daemon's "visions" of the events in this episode and what actually happened in Season 1, they were very different, even if the king said the same words. In this episode, Viserys was quite emotional but in a mopey kind of way, whereas in reality, he was outraged. The "king for a day?" line for example was shouted, not said calmly. The scene was warmly lit in S01; in Daemon's, it was cold and depressing. And so many others. This could mean Daemon was not only guilty for hurting his brother and running away from the consequences, but also abandoning him when his brother needed support the most-the death of Viserys' wife and child.
It makes sense that it would be different too, because one’s memories of an event are hardly accurate. The show runners are showing this flashback in a way that is subjective to give us context into Daemon’s psyche - which is great.
I think the only reason the throne room scene looked a little odd is probably because they couldn't get both actors in at the same time for that scene and probably used a stand-in for Daemon. The other scene obviously they were able to get both actors in for.
You said Otto was Aemond’s uncle. He’s actually his grandfather. Gwayne is Aegon, Aemond, Helaena and Daeron’s uncle on their maternal side and Daemon is their paternal uncle. Also, Ulf is their paternal uncle, supposedly.
Rhaenyra is the worst CEO of Westeros history! It's one misfire after another. And now HR pretty much can come for her blood, since she's having an affair with an employee that we all know it's not gonna end well. Worst case scenario Mysaria is about to get a hefty settlement package. She and Larys are the ones playing the GoT, the rest is just pawns...
Usually what works on the page doesn’t work on screen is the reason things are different. There’s no need to change things just for surprise sake which justifiably upsets fans.
If I wanted to be surprised I'd watch something original. I'm fine with some changes here since it is unreliable narrators but some of the changes aren't as good as the book. And when it comes to hbo's future harry potter adaptation I don't want anything changed, I want everything from my childhood brought to life: every removed quidditch match, the deathday party in chamber of secrets, peeves, the mauraders backstory in prisoner of azkaban, the full mystery plot in goblet of fire along with the house elves and rita skeeter, more with sirius black, the full scene of snape's memory, all the hilarious stressing over the exams and the full department of mysteries battle in order of the phoenix, all of voldemort's backstory in half blood prince, the full backstory of dumbledore's family in deathly hallows, and I want every character portrayed properly, none of that hermione being perfect or ron being worthless bs.
@JohnFourtyTwo Agreed... Performances are third person although they can bring you through the acting out of an individual's dream or projection... whereas books can explore the first person and you can join characters' inner experience. Performances tend to show you what happens instead of telling you. Screenplays need to combine characters to avoid an explosion of minor characters or offering too many limited but important roles, and to reduce viewer confusion. a lot of side plots and incomplete story lines need to be dropped. Performances are a different animal than writing.
Alys knew "the winds" would shift in three days, because Lord Tuly was going to die in 3 days, because she was going to poison him in 3 days, which she did. I think the Alys Rivers in Haranhal is a projection, and the Alys Rivers at Riverrun is the actual witch (who may or may not look completely different than her projection to Daemon at Haranhal)
i thought it meant that her owl could only fly to riverrun when the winds were calm, like she was going to poison him through the owl, but we know she really did travel to him so it doesn't make much sense
@@made-line7627 I assumed their acceptance of her help was a product of their inability to heal him over the last however long. Kind of like a person going to a naturopath after several failed treatments through the conventional medical system.
@@alanbland1976 Could be, could be. Just very odd considering how misogynistic their institution is, though I can see how a couple of individual maesters could capitulate in desperation
I think Seasmoke was unsure about Ser Steffon and figured “Hey I’ll try him out” but as soon as Ser started to get too confident, Seasmoke saw something in Ser that he didn’t like, so Ser got roasted.
All due respect, I think Ser Steffon actually _didn't_ get confident at all. He _said_ something to that effect ('I've done it!'), yes, but the way he was very timidly inching forward belied those words...he did not look confident, and I think those words he said were just as much trying to convince himself that he was out of danger...which of course he was not. Side note - I so want that scene to become a meme. "When you thought you could just *mount a dragon* ...." 🤣🤣🤣 "One does not just claim a dragon!"
Yup, he was trying to convince himself it was all ok but the dragon realized he didn’t want a nervy rider, he wanted someone w/confidence/conviction. So, the dragon goes out to find someone - else.
I think Mysaria is in survival mode and just cementing her usefulness for Rhaenyra. I hope Daemon's dreams are finished. He has done absolutely nothing this season.
Idk how people can see a man fighting his demons and dealing with his emotional baggage and call that “nothing”. He’s been going through character development, not just chillin in Harrenhall with his nightmares for no reason lmao.
@@user-jw3bz5js2z they are watching the wrong show if that’s what they want lmao. Everyone has to deal with their emotional bullshit and deal with the consequences, even Daemon!
I love that lady Jane is played by mother and addom is played by father from raised by wolves in an IP with one of its main families being represented by a wolf.
Pissed me off a bit that they cancelled that show. Not without faults obviously, but you just don't get a lot of big-budget, weird original sci-fi like that.
I genuinely thought that dragon scene could have been done sooooo much better. Felt way too many hard cuts and scenes lingering . Plus it just didn’t feel realistic with the spacial isssues …very weird directing from this season. I really hate when they use new directors every episode. Ugh oh well, hope they don’t fck this up anymore
What good will a dragon do Lady of the Vail without a rider? She hasn’t asked for a rider and doesn’t apparently have one. Is it assumed dragons will just protect their territory? Or serve as a deterrent? But then why doesn’t the existing wild dragon already living in the Vail serve that purpose?
I've really enjoyed this series and thought this one has been particularly good. I'm mixed on this one. I was thrilled to see Seasmoke hunt down our buddy as a rider. That's going to be great to watch. Thanks for your breakdowns, Pete. I thoroughly enjoy them.
Much is being made of the riders, or would-be riders, but size is just as important. Seasmoke is still a much smaller dragon than the larger Vermithor, Sheepstealer, or Silverwing, so it's not clear how Seasmoke will factor into a battle. Seasmoke certainly is not a match for Vhagar. Seasmoke is even smaller than Meleys, and we all saw what Vhagar did to Meleys.
That was only because he ambushed her , one on one meleys wins because she is faster and experienced . Sea smoke is also a swift dragon . Vhagar can be killed , it just takes more than one dragon
@@rafaelluna3564 True, but Rhaenys was a far more experienced rider in actual battle than any of the newcomers will be. Yet she allowed herself to be ambushed and she did not use her speed to work in her favor.
@@nuancolar7304 Plot armour. Meleys won the dive/fall, kept in the air when Vhagar hit the deck. She was in the winning position and gave it up so she could be ambushed from below a cliff. I personally think both dragon and rider should have expected an attack from below the cliff (becuse I did), If we completely ignore the fact that meleys won the dive, had an eyeball lock on the decked Vhagar and then "loses" the worst threat on the battlefield only so she can be ambushed.... we can say great scenes of dragons fighting. Shit practical scene to scene transition making for a dumbass event one has to make excuses for.
The writing is a mess this season. They had both Daemon and Rhaenyra sneak into King's Landing. And Rhaenrya''s trip was idiotic, to stop a war that had already begun and meeting with a woman who was powerless, while putting herself in danger of being captured. When I read the book I was on Team Black, but the writing for their characters is much worse than the Green side. This was a great story to tell, but they're over their heads here and not delivering, aside from the big spectacle moments. The CGI and coordination of the dragon fights is the only top tier part of this series. Season 2 is on the level of the final disastrous season of Game of Thrones.
Hmm...I expected a bit more roasting when it came to getting the Queen and her daughter out of danger. They would've been more protected if they'd stayed inside, and the guards failed to keep formation around the Queen and Helena, who herself ended up separated and trailing behind. The guards then failed to maintain a perimeter, so the Queen and Helena actually ran off by themselves and would've been done for if the deus ex back-ups hadn't arrived. I guess the scene was supposed to convey (in a thrilling fashion) how the small people are turning, but it also just made the Queen's guards look incompetent. Or it was a poorly written/shot/edited scene?? Not a huge deal mind you...just interesting in some way
Apparently Pete doesn’t review the supplementary material before making these videos because he’s in too much of a hurry to drop the video to get as many eyeballs, clicks, comments, and thumbs to tickle the algorithm. Alt Schift X is streaming live ten minutes after the episode ends for a few hours and then spends the next few days EFAPing the episode for all the details without the filler.
@@Gigipretty64Benioff and Weiss remind me of Berman and Braga, the Killer B’s for Enterprise who ruined that series and were hated by the fans. Braga was booed at a convention and stopped having anything to do with the fans after that.
@@clvrswine It’s actually these show runners careers to provide us with enjoyable entertainment. When we notice flaws and inconsistencies that take us out of the moment they have failed and don’t deserve a career in entertainment.
I thought the scene with Ser Steffon was a bit of a compressed version of the sowing of the seeds and how many people died trying to match with a dragon. Do you think they are combining Nettles with Rhaena ?? Pete?? How do you think people will respond at the end of this season, Im a bit worried. People seem like theyre getting bored.
I think the dragon in the Vale is almost certainly a sign that Nettles' storyline will be given to Rhaena, minus becoming Daemon's lover...hopefully. 😬
Just got nostalgic and been going through the old 'Tales From the Cryptkeeper' cartoon, and just last night your very words at 18:14 were pretty much the focus. With the younger brother: constantly stating: "10. 10 LOUSY seconds!".. perfect comparison. Although in the end he gets the princess and the castle so...good ending!
I don't think you know what your talking about just say u don't like it. This episode is setting up so much you just can't see it or refuse to pay attention cause you just want action and war. Lol
I'm not sure why people keeep saying Damon is usually loyal after he murked his first wife and didnt let his second return home and ignores his kids. I dont know its book knowledge our seeing something I don't know
I really like the Seasmoke claiming Addam plot twist because more than anything else it shows the inner world of a dragon. They are just living nukes with a bond to a bloodline, but this clearly shows they think and feel in certain ways. Seasmoke has been tracking Addam for some time, we see him circling in episode two and then when the guard tells Rhaenyra he was sited at Spicetown she says "yes he does that". Then when they introduce a potential rider to him Seasmoke kills him and obviously makes the decision "ok, enough is enough, time to make my move". Maybe its the blood. Maybe he reminds him of Laenor.
Why did they all just saunter off while the guy was still on fire....wtf. The best line was from Daemon, under his breath....."you can't possibly still be angry about this....." hilarious.
I thought this episode was quite good, the character development scenes felt more impactful than the last episodes, and the questionable moments (Daemon door scene, and some of the Rhaenyra scenes) felt less out of place than similar scenes in other episodes. Particularly impactful in my opinion were the scene of Daemon showing true remorse toward his brother, and subsequently admitting he needs help, Alicent regretting the childhood that made Aemond into the monster he is, and Larys showing some humanity in explaining what he suffered growing up. In general these moments added a lot of depth to characters who felt like stereotypes before, making even villains more understandable, if not likeable. It's baffling how poor the reception was on a lot of platforms like IMDB, scoring worse than episodes like "the long night" of GOT season 8. It just goes to show that many of the unwashed masses just watch the show to see dragons and battles without understanding what drives character development.
*House* *of* *the* *Dragon* *S2* *=* *Disappointment?* Smallfolk is currently at a 7.0 on IMDb, the lowest rated episode for HOT D. Season 2 has hit all-time lows with 2x3 The Burning Mill (7.8), 2x5 Regent (7.6), and 2x6 Smallfolk (7.0). The lowest rated episode from Season 1 was 1x6 The Princess and the Queen at 8.0. Why are the writers turning Daemon, George R.R. Martin’s all-time favorite Targaryen, into a useless dumbass of a character who has gone emo thanks to his bad acid/mushroom trips in Harrenhal? I’m aware that’s where Daemon is and it gives Matt Smith something to do, but they stretched his subplot way too long. He hasn’t changed for the better, so what’s the point? Wasted Matt this season. *Book* *Spoilers* So when we get to the Two Betrayers and Ulf is going to betray Rhaenyra because he feels entitled to more land and rewards, are the writers going to ignore Daemon wanting to give Ulf what he wants? In the book, Rhaenyra, mistakenly does not give Ulf that. Ulf and Hugh will betray her. If everybody listened to Daemon, none of this would happen. Otto would’ve been killed years ago. Viserys would’ve never married and had kids with Alicent. Daemon has more experience around the smallfolk than Rhaenyra ever had. Everybody should’ve listened to Daemon but no. Make the writers assassinate GRRM’s work and his favorite Targaryen. Remember those “Thanos was right” memes? That’s basically Daemon. His thought process is nutty but if everyone listened to him from the start, their House wouldn’t break apart like that. That’s what happens after dealing with a soft ruler. The one other time a female Targaryen wanted the Iron Throne, KL was burned. If you find Daemon too much of a wildcard, then Jaehaerys should’ve chose Rhaenys over Viserys. In the book, it’s actually Viserys vs. Laenor. Rhaenys was already one of my favorites before HOT D aired. I believe she will remain a favorite once the series is over. Rhaenyra is basically Starlight in The Boys S1-S3. She’s Little Miss Perfect for now although Rhaenyra has done some lying herself. We will get to a point with Rhaenyra where we will start questioning her rule. Otto is such a POS for pushing Aegon because he thought nobody in Westeros would take a woman seriously. Didn’t Alicent and him run the kingdom when Viserys was dying? But I’m glad Aemond wants his grandpa back after calling Larys a toad. That was funny. Aemond is now in full Sith mode and there’s no turning back. Bringing Otto back will make Ep. 8 extremely satisfying. Extremely. Otto is the biggest homewrecker because Daemon could see right through that c*nt. Women writers just want to emasculate Daemon like they did to Indiana Jones. To quote Vito Corleone in The Godfather (1972): “Look how they massacred my boy.” What the writers are doing to Daemon would be like if you take Homelander and Butcher and turn them into The Deep. They’re ruining Daemon like Gunn will do to Superman. Make the most dangerous man in Westeros and turn him into a loser because he’s a white guy like they did to Luke, Han, and Indy. I’m starting to think Ryan Condal doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s no different than the overrated Dave Filoni in Star Wars. Then Sara Hess and Clare Kilner are like the Deborah Chow and Leslye Headland of HOT D. They hire fake fangirls thinking they know the lore. Sara Hess, a lesbian, must’ve loved watching Rhaenyra and Mysaria make out like that. But in the book, Rhaenyra and Mysaria were known to be lovers. Watching them kiss wasn’t surprising. A W for the LGBT. I do think part of the disappointment might also be coming from George’s limited material for the Dance of the Dragons. It’s only written in a few chapters in Fire & Blood. HBO writers has to make up newer stuff to stretch the story out. And isn’t the Dance overrated? Targaryen civil war seems like a downgrade from Game of Thrones. Smaller in scope, less characters to root for. And if you expect tons of dragon fights, expect to be disappointed. Syrax never gets into one. Caraxes has one fight against a dragon. Why does HOT D keep giving us more White Walker references? Nobody cares. We saw what Arya did to the Night King. The threat of the White Walkers is the most overrated thing to come out of Game of Thrones after we saw what Arya did to their leader. The White Walkers were hyped up for 8 seasons only to kill them all after ONE episode and give Arya her fan service killing a superior swordsman. Another moment watching a less trained female kill a more trained male character. I enjoyed reading a comment on Alicent. She mistreated Aegon and Aemond as kids and is now wondering why they’re not as kind as Daeron whom she hardly knows. 🤣 Seasmoke made Trump’s catchphrase, YOU’RE FIRED, extremely literal. But then practically does a Weinstein and doesn’t give Addam his own free will. Seasmoke became a rapist and forced Addam to mount him like Harvey did to those actresses. Is Seasmoke a racist and sexist too? Burns a white guy. Only wants Black guys with dreadlocks. The two best characters from HOT D are already dead: Viserys was MVP for S1 and Rhaenys for S2. You know who is the best character still alive in this show? It’s actually Mysaria. She’s the one giving great advice to Rhaenyra and it’s not for selfish personal gains for herself the way someone like Littlefinger or Otto would want. Mysaria was the one using the smallfolk as an angle to help Rhaenyra’s claim. She’s a better version of Missandei. House of the Dragon is starting to lose some of it’s luster. I can understand the complaints that’s it’s mostly slow and boring. Will never be as epic in scope as Game of Thrones. We’re following the same 5 main characters (Rhaenyra, Daemon, Alicent, Aemond, Criston). Otto will return but won’t have much to do. Then the newer ones haven’t been all that interesting except for maybe Alys Rivers but nobody really knows WTF she wants. Story is getting stretched out but in pointless directions. Writers are making most of the main characters worse to the point that it makes viewers detached from them and the story. When you adapt from a book and certain things are done wrong, we start thinking it’s just fanfic written on Wattpad like what Leslye did for The Acolyte. And then the newer characters like the Hull boys, Ulf, Hugh, and Gwayne, haven’t been all that interesting. Most of the side characters are written paper thin. House of the Dragon S2: B Ep. 1: B Ep. 2: A- Ep. 3: C+ Ep. 4: A Ep. 5: C+ Ep. 6: B- Ep. 7: ? Ep. 8: ? I will be generous and give Smallfolk a B- only because Paddy returned. But it was mostly an episode that meandered like Ep. 3 and 5 did. We’ve only had two A quality episodes of the 6 we’ve seen so far. I did downgrade the overall Season 2 from a B+ to a B. Another meh episode from Ep. 7, and it will go down to a B-. Seems like HBO blew most of their budget on Ep. 4. Then writers are taking a few sentences from Fire & Blood and turning it into an hour long episode but it goes nowhere. Best Characters (For The Entire Series) 1. Rhaenys 2. Viserys 3. Mysaria 👀 4. Daeron 5. Rhaenyra 6. Daemon 7. Aemond 8. Aegon 9. Otto 10. Alicent Daeron hasn’t even been seen yet and I already like what I’m hearing from Gwayne. HBO turning Daemon into trash and Aemond into an unlikable POS. I’m still Team Daemon but what a joke he’s turning out to be thanks to the HBO writers. Make him more interesting by making him weirder, ruthless, dumber, and more pathetic. He goes from threatening Simon Strong with a knife to crying in another scene. Do not expect many dragon fights. It’s severely limited in that area. Vhagar fought thrice in her life and we’ve already seen two of them. Don’t expect to see her fight again until late in the series. We have the Battle of Gullet delayed until S3 when that happens before Rhaenyra takes over King’s Landing. Then what will HBO do with the two Tumbleton battles? Skip them and show it’s already been fought to save money? Tired of watching troops walk to castles and nobody is fighting. Let’s face it, the Dance of the Dragons is overrated. Some of that from George’s own limitations as a writer. Same with Aegon the Conqueror. I’m not sure Dunk and Egg will be all that fascinating either but I do want to watch a smaller contained story. A more interesting series would be Robert’s Rebellion which consists of more Houses than just one’s own civil war. That feels more epic than the Dance. House of the Dragon issues - Slow and boring - Making popular characters worse - Less characters to root for - Less locations to see - Not enough dragon fights - Stretching useless subplots too long Ep. 7 should be another slow burn finding dragonseeds. Then Ep. 8 will end up being either the best or 2nd best episode of S2 next to The Red Dragon and the Gold. HOT D = House of the Disappointment Still better than The Acolyte. I will still continue to watch it. The Boys S4, Cobra Kai S6 P1, and HOT D S2 are all weaker than their previous season but I will still watch all of them. We probably won’t get a Season 3 of HOT D for another 2 years. Just a shame HBO turned one of the best, if not the best character in the Dance and turned him into a dumb and worthless character this season. It’s like taking Vader and turning him into a whiny b*tch. Oh, wait. That did happen in the Prequels. Seasmoke: Before you die, there is something you should know about us, Darklyn. Steffon Darklyn: What? Seasmoke: I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate. Steffon Darklyn: What's that make us? Seasmoke: Absolutely nothing! Which is what you are about to become. Then Seasmoke proceeds to choose Fab, one half of Milli Vanilli.
When Ser Stephan says “Dohaeris” he mispronounces it. It almost sounded like he mispronounced “dracharis.” The dragon hesitated and only when Ser Stephan stepped forward did the dragon roast him. Possible miscommunication there?
I totally saw the Mysaria/Rhaenyra relationship coming! I thought they built it up rather well from their first big scene together and later when Mysaria returned in order to save Rhaenyra's life.
I am glad I'm completely unfamiliar with any of the books or lore of both GOT and HOTD. I have only recently seen GOT for the first time, and I knew roughly some of the final reveals, but it was nice to sit through the entire series and not be swayed or caught up watching it in real time. I would've had more complaints/problems with the last seasons, and had biases towards characters, etc. After GOT i definitely got into some of it's history and the Ice and Fire wiki's but coming into HOTD, I didn't realize it even had source material, but I'm enjoying it for what it is, and having only GOT as reference for anything, I can enjoy things without the inconsistencies or spoilers even. I would just imagine it's much different for viewers with and without knowing the books and lore beforehand. I think certain series are suited for traditional weekly rollouts, especially epics such as GOT, BrBa, Lost, FAM, etc. Others, like maybe Succession, or Ozark, even Barry can be top tier TV and not necessarily require the same commitment... But some of these series, having a year or 2 years between seasons has become really frustrating at times. It's hard to keep the same excitement year after year when it's been so long. Better Call Saul was worth it, but would be great to have just binged after it all ended. Severance is one that has a lot going for it, but the delays can really lose some of the steam behind these shows.
So she successfully mounted and bonded with Baeleron. Or are you saying she was on his back 365 no food no water? She lived a full year with him before something went wrong where they landed. Wish we could see that, despite the tragedy that falls her.
I really didn't like season one. In fact, I stopped watching for a while after episode S01E06; the younger and older actress swap was just too jarring (I've seen it done well in other shows). But I've enjoyed season two.
Vhagar and Meleys were both she-dragons, so maybe that's why they never paired up! Vermithor was (as far as we know) male and Silverwing was a confirmed she-dragon so it would make sense that they would pair up!
*They didn't throw vegetables, which was an expensive luxury at that point. It was fish because that's what's relatively abundant. Safe to say it was rotten too, but when you're starving, why would you let something so crucial to your survival rot? And why not throw something else? Ah, these plot conveniences, eh? Best disregard them soon as they literally enter the scene.
That fire should’ve melted those guys to a puddle..not give them enough time to cut their own throat lol (plus it was the lightest cut ever lol) poor poor directing on this episode .
1) Would somebody( Pete?) please elaborate on Helena's silenced cricket? We all know it means something, but what? 2) Sorry, but the amount of time Daemon is in the Scooby Doo and Shaggy castle is really wasted. I'm not sure what the hell is/has been going on, but I cannot discern the important reason the Mystety Machine Van has been parked out in front for this long.
@@HouseoftheWerewolf OK, I’ll buy that, but her visions/foreshadowing seem to be of a more important and/or ominous nature. IMO a recent one we just witnessed in episode 6 actually was foreshadowed in episode 2. When Alicent and Helaena are paraded through the streets in episode 2 as a part of the child’s funeral procession, at the 16:40 mark you can see Helaena looking up in the air frightened as the crowd yelled and threw flower petals (part of it in almost slow motion for effect) in support of her grief. I suspected then she was seeing a future occurrence when the “small folk” would not be so sympathetic. That’s exactly what we saw in episode 6 as the crowd tried to attack her and Alicent and threw food instead of flowers. Helaena is must see TV folks.
Anyone know the point of Hugh Hammers character? is he going to be critical to the destruction of the dragon pit? Is he just Kings Landing peasant perspective? will he be dragon rider due to being a Targaryen bastard?
Fam. I enjoyed your energy and recap. Here’s a suggestion though. Please try to place music in the background as a bed to your essay/recap. This was DRY AS HELL GANG. 😅
I definitely do it's interesting but I do productions and writing so that's why but I can understand if you have no interest and just enjoy the show it is annoying but I will say the house that dragons built is so fucking coool you need to watch it to see how they pull of the look of a lot of their best scenes
Why are you complaining? Disney+ struggles to get 30 minutes per episode with their Star Wars series that are terrible shows which is why Pete doesn’t waste time covering them.
"I guess ideally you don't want to walk around slapping people" ---> what a stupid, stupid move of her. Just say the sentence, nothing like uttering an non distinct threat, to get people motivated to tread with care. Humiliate him in front of witnesses, and you are guaranteed to have created an eternal enemy, who will seek revenge.
Well that's what book rhaenyra was like: proud and stubborn, charming but quick to anger and never forgot a slight. Frankly it was refreshing to see, normally they have her acting way too passive.
Really bored of this series now…your reviews are so much more exciting…genuinely. The Darkland character was so clearly cannon fodder he might as well have been wearing the red uniform from Star Trek.
You really couldn’t tell the difference in same scenes between the first one and the last one with Daemon? Heavy spoilers completely breaks it down and show much insight to the scene with their emotions alone. You didn’t see that? Hmmmm
Is there a review channel for this show that doesn't just lick their nuts? This season has been a huge fail! They could've done everything in 2 or 3 episodes and cut out all the ridiculous junk. What a waste of a good story.
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The actor who is playing Ser Simon is one of this season’s MVPs, and it was awesome to get a look at Stormcloud. Loved that Paddy finally invaded Daemon’s dreams and the shot of him breaking down after the second dream was really well done. Having Seasmoke being lonely and picking his old rider's half-brother kinda works. We’re on the brink of a major battle and things are falling into place for an exciting ending. Let me know what you think.
Are you referring to Sheep Stealer in regards to the wild dragon at the Vale? I think Rhaena will get a different story and end up with a dragon. Just a hunch.
Paddy did come back to do those two scenes, it’s on the behind the scenes extras. 🤓
@@lurkst3r It's possible but right now all signs are pointing towards Sheep Stealer.
I love that the actor that plays Ser Simon is also a Sir Simon in real life and they use his title in the credits. He was fantastic on Penny Dreadful, truly one of the most talented actors ever!
I absolutely loved everyting going on in King's Landing
in this episode... the emphasis on the smallfolk , Larys conversation with Aegon, Aemond's council sessions, Alicent and Gwayne talking about Daeron the daring and Otto Hightower etc even though i'm team black the greens are so much more interesting and entertaining to watch also Olivia Cooke is so good as Alicent.
When i saw that baby dragon i just melted. So freaking cute!
His little stomach and wings would be covered in so much dust, and that image is just so cute to me 😅
No dragon in present time at the Vale though, so was it murdered?
Like a puppy be trained with a baby.
She smacked the absolute shit out of that guy who was trying to say “I told you so” for the thousandth time, and I probably watched that smack 5 times because I loved it so much. 😂
it was necessary
Not Seasmoke giving us a jumpscare 😂
here have some dragon poop as compensation.
Im team Black but Aemond is my fav character... him dismissing Alicent sent me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
favorite villain right
If you watch the behind the scenes stuff at the end of the episode and the episode of the House that Dragons Built that goes with this episode of HotD, you would see that they indeed actually brought Paddy back. And he’s not just saying the same exact lines as before, there are subtle differences that convey more about Daemon’s psyche/are the result of Alys’ manipulation of him.
You're the BEST, Pete. The absolute best. I wish you would do more shows!
I know it got a little repetitive the last episodes with Daemon's story, but this made it feel like it was worth the wait. If he's going to have a believable character arc, it makes sense for us to feel how long and unsettling his time away really has been. If it was just touched on and implied that he was going through so much for so long, I don't think his (possible) growth/change would be as convincing. This was a great episode all around!
In the original throne room scene in season one, Viserys is considerably more angry with Daemon. In this scene, he's more saddened by his brother's acts of betrayal. I think that's because Daemon is framing the moment through his own feelings of guilt etc.
You're very quick to publish, and surprisingly thorough and perceptive with that in mind.
I think the scene where Seasmoke was "crying" over the ocean and Mysaria said "Maybe he's lonely" was SeaSmoke mourning the death of Laenor. He died. There's no other explanation. Which is why Seasmoke suddenly started creeping on her next boo.
Except he’s coming back at some point so…
Also, if you compared Daemon's "visions" of the events in this episode and what actually happened in Season 1, they were very different, even if the king said the same words. In this episode, Viserys was quite emotional but in a mopey kind of way, whereas in reality, he was outraged. The "king for a day?" line for example was shouted, not said calmly. The scene was warmly lit in S01; in Daemon's, it was cold and depressing. And so many others.
This could mean Daemon was not only guilty for hurting his brother and running away from the consequences, but also abandoning him when his brother needed support the most-the death of Viserys' wife and child.
It makes sense that it would be different too, because one’s memories of an event are hardly accurate. The show runners are showing this flashback in a way that is subjective to give us context into Daemon’s psyche - which is great.
Same words delivered differently. They did bring Paddy back and it was brilliant
Paddy did go in to film. This time, we witness the event through Daemon’s mind.
Yes, and this time, he appears more saddened by Daemon's betrayal than he is angry with him during the actual Season one scene.
I think the only reason the throne room scene looked a little odd is probably because they couldn't get both actors in at the same time for that scene and probably used a stand-in for Daemon. The other scene obviously they were able to get both actors in for.
You said Otto was Aemond’s uncle. He’s actually his grandfather. Gwayne is Aegon, Aemond, Helaena and Daeron’s uncle on their maternal side and Daemon is their paternal uncle. Also, Ulf is their paternal uncle, supposedly.
Did I say uncle? Oh well, it's always something.
@@PetePeppers1😂
Rhaenyra is the worst CEO of Westeros history! It's one misfire after another. And now HR pretty much can come for her blood, since she's having an affair with an employee that we all know it's not gonna end well. Worst case scenario Mysaria is about to get a hefty settlement package. She and Larys are the ones playing the GoT, the rest is just pawns...
Nah the worst CEO is Daenerys father, the mad king and maybe Joffrey.
And this is why book shows and movies should NOT follow the books exactly so people can be suprised!
Usually what works on the page doesn’t work on screen is the reason things are different. There’s no need to change things just for surprise sake which justifiably upsets fans.
If I wanted to be surprised I'd watch something original. I'm fine with some changes here since it is unreliable narrators but some of the changes aren't as good as the book.
And when it comes to hbo's future harry potter adaptation I don't want anything changed, I want everything from my childhood brought to life: every removed quidditch match, the deathday party in chamber of secrets, peeves, the mauraders backstory in prisoner of azkaban, the full mystery plot in goblet of fire along with the house elves and rita skeeter, more with sirius black, the full scene of snape's memory, all the hilarious stressing over the exams and the full department of mysteries battle in order of the phoenix, all of voldemort's backstory in half blood prince, the full backstory of dumbledore's family in deathly hallows, and I want every character portrayed properly, none of that hermione being perfect or ron being worthless bs.
Not only that, but the books are maester propaganda and based on third and fourth hand accounts so they absolutely should not be the same!
@JohnFourtyTwo Agreed... Performances are third person although they can bring you through the acting out of an individual's dream or projection... whereas books can explore the first person and you can join characters' inner experience. Performances tend to show you what happens instead of telling you. Screenplays need to combine characters to avoid an explosion of minor characters or offering too many limited but important roles, and to reduce viewer confusion. a lot of side plots and incomplete story lines need to be dropped. Performances are a different animal than writing.
@@JamesPerkins Agreed 💯👍
Alys knew "the winds" would shift in three days, because Lord Tuly was going to die in 3 days, because she was going to poison him in 3 days, which she did. I think the Alys Rivers in Haranhal is a projection, and the Alys Rivers at Riverrun is the actual witch (who may or may not look completely different than her projection to Daemon at Haranhal)
i thought it meant that her owl could only fly to riverrun when the winds were calm, like she was going to poison him through the owl, but we know she really did travel to him so it doesn't make much sense
Perhaps she really is a shape changing barn owl
Interesting idea. It was straight up suspicious when Simon said that the measters at Riverrun accepted the assistance of a woods witch 🧹
@@made-line7627 I assumed their acceptance of her help was a product of their inability to heal him over the last however long.
Kind of like a person going to a naturopath after several failed treatments through the conventional medical system.
@@alanbland1976 Could be, could be. Just very odd considering how misogynistic their institution is, though I can see how a couple of individual maesters could capitulate in desperation
I think Seasmoke was unsure about Ser Steffon and figured “Hey I’ll try him out” but as soon as Ser started to get too confident, Seasmoke saw something in Ser that he didn’t like, so Ser got roasted.
All due respect, I think Ser Steffon actually _didn't_ get confident at all. He _said_ something to that effect ('I've done it!'), yes, but the way he was very timidly inching forward belied those words...he did not look confident, and I think those words he said were just as much trying to convince himself that he was out of danger...which of course he was not.
Side note - I so want that scene to become a meme. "When you thought you could just *mount a dragon* ...." 🤣🤣🤣 "One does not just claim a dragon!"
@@dewulfe9913 yeah I see your point.
And I agree about the meme idea 😂
Yup, he was trying to convince himself it was all ok but the dragon realized he didn’t want a nervy rider, he wanted someone w/confidence/conviction. So, the dragon goes out to find someone - else.
& then knew that eventually he _would_ be claimed, so decided to find his own rider. He couldn't find Laenor, so he found them next best thing.
Paddy Considine definitely came back for this. If you want this scene with the original scene, the line delivery is totally different.
Seasmoke and Drogon look exactly the same.
Except being different colors and sizes.
when alicent was threatened i almost started crying lol
I think Mysaria is in survival mode and just cementing her usefulness for Rhaenyra. I hope Daemon's dreams are finished. He has done absolutely nothing this season.
Idk how people can see a man fighting his demons and dealing with his emotional baggage and call that “nothing”. He’s been going through character development, not just chillin in Harrenhall with his nightmares for no reason lmao.
@@gemwilliams6486cause they are impatient and just wanna see him cut heads and shit they don’t want any actual character development
@@user-jw3bz5js2z they are watching the wrong show if that’s what they want lmao. Everyone has to deal with their emotional bullshit and deal with the consequences, even Daemon!
I love that lady Jane is played by mother and addom is played by father from raised by wolves in an IP with one of its main families being represented by a wolf.
Pissed me off a bit that they cancelled that show. Not without faults obviously, but you just don't get a lot of big-budget, weird original sci-fi like that.
@cacogenicist same here, I was so excited to see where it was going to go after season 2, then HBO went full Thanos and canceled it.
I genuinely thought that dragon scene could have been done sooooo much better. Felt way too many hard cuts and scenes lingering . Plus it just didn’t feel realistic with the spacial isssues …very weird directing from this season. I really hate when they use new directors every episode. Ugh oh well, hope they don’t fck this up anymore
What good will a dragon do Lady of the Vail without a rider? She hasn’t asked for a rider and doesn’t apparently have one. Is it assumed dragons will just protect their territory? Or serve as a deterrent? But then why doesn’t the existing wild dragon already living in the Vail serve that purpose?
My personal theory is she is Team Green and is setting up the boys to be held hostage
No haven't read the books
it's taken for granted that the rider comes with the dragon
Isn't that why Joffery is there with Stormcloud?
Thanks Pete, great recap.
I've really enjoyed this series and thought this one has been particularly good. I'm mixed on this one. I was thrilled to see Seasmoke hunt down our buddy as a rider. That's going to be great to watch. Thanks for your breakdowns, Pete. I thoroughly enjoy them.
Sea smoke was like, nah… I’ve got someone in mind. Thanks! Dracarus bitches!
See the 'making of.' Paddy Considine did indeed come back.
Much is being made of the riders, or would-be riders, but size is just as important. Seasmoke is still a much smaller dragon than the larger Vermithor, Sheepstealer, or Silverwing, so it's not clear how Seasmoke will factor into a battle. Seasmoke certainly is not a match for Vhagar. Seasmoke is even smaller than Meleys, and we all saw what Vhagar did to Meleys.
That was only because he ambushed her , one on one meleys wins because she is faster and experienced . Sea smoke is also a swift dragon . Vhagar can be killed , it just takes more than one dragon
@@rafaelluna3564 True, but Rhaenys was a far more experienced rider in actual battle than any of the newcomers will be. Yet she allowed herself to be ambushed and she did not use her speed to work in her favor.
@@nuancolar7304 Plot armour. Meleys won the dive/fall, kept in the air when Vhagar hit the deck. She was in the winning position and gave it up so she could be ambushed from below a cliff. I personally think both dragon and rider should have expected an attack from below the cliff (becuse I did), If we completely ignore the fact that meleys won the dive, had an eyeball lock on the decked Vhagar and then "loses" the worst threat on the battlefield only so she can be ambushed.... we can say great scenes of dragons fighting.
Shit practical scene to scene transition making for a dumbass event one has to make excuses for.
@@nuancolar7304 i dont believe it is possible to allow others to ambush.
This whole production suffers from a lack of good writing, interesting characters, humor, intrigue, mystery, originality and character. TFSS.
The writing is a mess this season. They had both Daemon and Rhaenyra sneak into King's Landing. And Rhaenrya''s trip was idiotic, to stop a war that had already begun and meeting with a woman who was powerless, while putting herself in danger of being captured. When I read the book I was on Team Black, but the writing for their characters is much worse than the Green side. This was a great story to tell, but they're over their heads here and not delivering, aside from the big spectacle moments. The CGI and coordination of the dragon fights is the only top tier part of this series. Season 2 is on the level of the final disastrous season of Game of Thrones.
Hmm...I expected a bit more roasting when it came to getting the Queen and her daughter out of danger. They would've been more protected if they'd stayed inside, and the guards failed to keep formation around the Queen and Helena, who herself ended up separated and trailing behind. The guards then failed to maintain a perimeter, so the Queen and Helena actually ran off by themselves and would've been done for if the deus ex back-ups hadn't arrived.
I guess the scene was supposed to convey (in a thrilling fashion) how the small people are turning, but it also just made the Queen's guards look incompetent. Or it was a poorly written/shot/edited scene?? Not a huge deal mind you...just interesting in some way
I CONCUR
as he says in the video, this is explained by that aegon put his drinking buddies into the kings guard, not experienced fighters.v
Yeah it seemed a little bizarre, almost like the guards were DEI hires rather than one's most capable of protecting their leader.
Good video, nice to see someone who gets all the facts right.
If you watch the house that dragons built they brought Paddy back I thought they just fucked with the audio but no it was just a different performance
Apparently Pete doesn’t review the supplementary material before making these videos because he’s in too much of a hurry to drop the video to get as many eyeballs, clicks, comments, and thumbs to tickle the algorithm.
Alt Schift X is streaming live ten minutes after the episode ends for a few hours and then spends the next few days EFAPing the episode for all the details without the filler.
How is Alys Rivers maintaining her youth if she has no necklace? The minute Melisandre took hers off she aged rapidly and died.
GOT was very inconsistent with her necklace, if you go back she’s seen without it and still looks young. D&D were wildly loose with continuity.
@@Gigipretty64Benioff and Weiss remind me of Berman and Braga, the Killer B’s for Enterprise who ruined that series and were hated by the fans. Braga was booed at a convention and stopped having anything to do with the fans after that.
@@JohnFourtyTwo Waaaay too into this. It's entertainment, not a career.
@@clvrswine It’s actually these show runners careers to provide us with enjoyable entertainment. When we notice flaws and inconsistencies that take us out of the moment they have failed and don’t deserve a career in entertainment.
I truly believe that cutting Neetles was to avoid spoilers in ASOIAF when it comes to "claiming dragons and what motivates them".
I didn't think it was possible to watch one scene more than I watched Rhaenys death. But I broke my personal record watching the kiss. 👄
The White Worm and the Queen was a little surprise. Relationship of opportunity rather than desire.
I am looking forward to the Helaena vs Alice Rivers weird girl cat fight in episode 7
The first season was rushed, the second season has been well paced.
I thought the scene with Ser Steffon was a bit of a compressed version of the sowing of the seeds and how many people died trying to match with a dragon.
Do you think they are combining Nettles with Rhaena ??
Pete?? How do you think people will respond at the end of this season, Im a bit worried. People seem like theyre getting bored.
I think the dragon in the Vale is almost certainly a sign that Nettles' storyline will be given to Rhaena, minus becoming Daemon's lover...hopefully. 😬
@AlerieHightower yeah, I agree . It's interesting how other events will play out then. Two episodes with a lot to do.
Just got nostalgic and been going through the old 'Tales From the Cryptkeeper' cartoon, and just last night your very words at 18:14 were pretty much the focus. With the younger brother: constantly stating: "10. 10 LOUSY seconds!".. perfect comparison. Although in the end he gets the princess and the castle so...good ending!
I wish they had shown us Bran’s dreams that actually lead to something, as much as they are pushing Damon’s dumb dreams
This whole episode is a filler 🥱
I don't think you know what your talking about just say u don't like it. This episode is setting up so much you just can't see it or refuse to pay attention cause you just want action and war. Lol
Dude, if daemon would just stick with his team, they'd all stand a way better chance of survival.
I'm not sure why people keeep saying Damon is usually loyal after he murked his first wife and didnt let his second return home and ignores his kids. I dont know its book knowledge our seeing something I don't know
Good stuff, Pete. Thanks for doing these!!!
Halaena, the most useless dragonrider in all the 7 kingdoms
Yes, Paddy was physically on-set for his S2 scenes. They show him and interview him in the BTS videos available on Max and their YT channels.
I really like the Seasmoke claiming Addam plot twist because more than anything else it shows the inner world of a dragon. They are just living nukes with a bond to a bloodline, but this clearly shows they think and feel in certain ways. Seasmoke has been tracking Addam for some time, we see him circling in episode two and then when the guard tells Rhaenyra he was sited at Spicetown she says "yes he does that". Then when they introduce a potential rider to him Seasmoke kills him and obviously makes the decision "ok, enough is enough, time to make my move". Maybe its the blood. Maybe he reminds him of Laenor.
Why did they all just saunter off while the guy was still on fire....wtf. The best line was from Daemon, under his breath....."you can't possibly still be angry about this....." hilarious.
Probably wanted to make sure they didn't get torched too
I thought this episode was quite good, the character development scenes felt more impactful than the last episodes, and the questionable moments (Daemon door scene, and some of the Rhaenyra scenes) felt less out of place than similar scenes in other episodes. Particularly impactful in my opinion were the scene of Daemon showing true remorse toward his brother, and subsequently admitting he needs help, Alicent regretting the childhood that made Aemond into the monster he is, and Larys showing some humanity in explaining what he suffered growing up. In general these moments added a lot of depth to characters who felt like stereotypes before, making even villains more understandable, if not likeable. It's baffling how poor the reception was on a lot of platforms like IMDB, scoring worse than episodes like "the long night" of GOT season 8. It just goes to show that many of the unwashed masses just watch the show to see dragons and battles without understanding what drives character development.
*House* *of* *the* *Dragon* *S2* *=* *Disappointment?*
Smallfolk is currently at a 7.0 on IMDb, the lowest rated episode for HOT D. Season 2 has hit all-time lows with 2x3 The Burning Mill (7.8), 2x5 Regent (7.6), and 2x6 Smallfolk (7.0). The lowest rated episode from Season 1 was 1x6 The Princess and the Queen at 8.0.
Why are the writers turning Daemon, George R.R. Martin’s all-time favorite Targaryen, into a useless dumbass of a character who has gone emo thanks to his bad acid/mushroom trips in Harrenhal? I’m aware that’s where Daemon is and it gives Matt Smith something to do, but they stretched his subplot way too long. He hasn’t changed for the better, so what’s the point? Wasted Matt this season.
*Book* *Spoilers*
So when we get to the Two Betrayers and Ulf is going to betray Rhaenyra because he feels entitled to more land and rewards, are the writers going to ignore Daemon wanting to give Ulf what he wants? In the book, Rhaenyra, mistakenly does not give Ulf that. Ulf and Hugh will betray her. If everybody listened to Daemon, none of this would happen. Otto would’ve been killed years ago. Viserys would’ve never married and had kids with Alicent. Daemon has more experience around the smallfolk than Rhaenyra ever had.
Everybody should’ve listened to Daemon but no. Make the writers assassinate GRRM’s work and his favorite Targaryen. Remember those “Thanos was right” memes? That’s basically Daemon. His thought process is nutty but if everyone listened to him from the start, their House wouldn’t break apart like that. That’s what happens after dealing with a soft ruler. The one other time a female Targaryen wanted the Iron Throne, KL was burned.
If you find Daemon too much of a wildcard, then Jaehaerys should’ve chose Rhaenys over Viserys. In the book, it’s actually Viserys vs. Laenor. Rhaenys was already one of my favorites before HOT D aired. I believe she will remain a favorite once the series is over. Rhaenyra is basically Starlight in The Boys S1-S3. She’s Little Miss Perfect for now although Rhaenyra has done some lying herself. We will get to a point with Rhaenyra where we will start questioning her rule.
Otto is such a POS for pushing Aegon because he thought nobody in Westeros would take a woman seriously. Didn’t Alicent and him run the kingdom when Viserys was dying? But I’m glad Aemond wants his grandpa back after calling Larys a toad. That was funny. Aemond is now in full Sith mode and there’s no turning back. Bringing Otto back will make Ep. 8 extremely satisfying. Extremely. Otto is the biggest homewrecker because Daemon could see right through that c*nt.
Women writers just want to emasculate Daemon like they did to Indiana Jones. To quote Vito Corleone in The Godfather (1972): “Look how they massacred my boy.” What the writers are doing to Daemon would be like if you take Homelander and Butcher and turn them into The Deep. They’re ruining Daemon like Gunn will do to Superman. Make the most dangerous man in Westeros and turn him into a loser because he’s a white guy like they did to Luke, Han, and Indy.
I’m starting to think Ryan Condal doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s no different than the overrated Dave Filoni in Star Wars. Then Sara Hess and Clare Kilner are like the Deborah Chow and Leslye Headland of HOT D. They hire fake fangirls thinking they know the lore. Sara Hess, a lesbian, must’ve loved watching Rhaenyra and Mysaria make out like that. But in the book, Rhaenyra and Mysaria were known to be lovers. Watching them kiss wasn’t surprising. A W for the LGBT.
I do think part of the disappointment might also be coming from George’s limited material for the Dance of the Dragons. It’s only written in a few chapters in Fire & Blood. HBO writers has to make up newer stuff to stretch the story out. And isn’t the Dance overrated? Targaryen civil war seems like a downgrade from Game of Thrones. Smaller in scope, less characters to root for. And if you expect tons of dragon fights, expect to be disappointed. Syrax never gets into one. Caraxes has one fight against a dragon.
Why does HOT D keep giving us more White Walker references? Nobody cares. We saw what Arya did to the Night King. The threat of the White Walkers is the most overrated thing to come out of Game of Thrones after we saw what Arya did to their leader. The White Walkers were hyped up for 8 seasons only to kill them all after ONE episode and give Arya her fan service killing a superior swordsman. Another moment watching a less trained female kill a more trained male character.
I enjoyed reading a comment on Alicent. She mistreated Aegon and Aemond as kids and is now wondering why they’re not as kind as Daeron whom she hardly knows. 🤣 Seasmoke made Trump’s catchphrase, YOU’RE FIRED, extremely literal. But then practically does a Weinstein and doesn’t give Addam his own free will. Seasmoke became a rapist and forced Addam to mount him like Harvey did to those actresses. Is Seasmoke a racist and sexist too? Burns a white guy. Only wants Black guys with dreadlocks.
The two best characters from HOT D are already dead: Viserys was MVP for S1 and Rhaenys for S2. You know who is the best character still alive in this show? It’s actually Mysaria. She’s the one giving great advice to Rhaenyra and it’s not for selfish personal gains for herself the way someone like Littlefinger or Otto would want. Mysaria was the one using the smallfolk as an angle to help Rhaenyra’s claim. She’s a better version of Missandei.
House of the Dragon is starting to lose some of it’s luster. I can understand the complaints that’s it’s mostly slow and boring. Will never be as epic in scope as Game of Thrones. We’re following the same 5 main characters (Rhaenyra, Daemon, Alicent, Aemond, Criston). Otto will return but won’t have much to do. Then the newer ones haven’t been all that interesting except for maybe Alys Rivers but nobody really knows WTF she wants.
Story is getting stretched out but in pointless directions. Writers are making most of the main characters worse to the point that it makes viewers detached from them and the story. When you adapt from a book and certain things are done wrong, we start thinking it’s just fanfic written on Wattpad like what Leslye did for The Acolyte. And then the newer characters like the Hull boys, Ulf, Hugh, and Gwayne, haven’t been all that interesting. Most of the side characters are written paper thin.
House of the Dragon S2: B
Ep. 1: B
Ep. 2: A-
Ep. 3: C+
Ep. 4: A
Ep. 5: C+
Ep. 6: B-
Ep. 7: ?
Ep. 8: ?
I will be generous and give Smallfolk a B- only because Paddy returned. But it was mostly an episode that meandered like Ep. 3 and 5 did. We’ve only had two A quality episodes of the 6 we’ve seen so far. I did downgrade the overall Season 2 from a B+ to a B. Another meh episode from Ep. 7, and it will go down to a B-. Seems like HBO blew most of their budget on Ep. 4. Then writers are taking a few sentences from Fire & Blood and turning it into an hour long episode but it goes nowhere.
Best Characters (For The Entire Series)
1. Rhaenys
2. Viserys
3. Mysaria 👀
4. Daeron
5. Rhaenyra
6. Daemon
7. Aemond
8. Aegon
9. Otto
10. Alicent
Daeron hasn’t even been seen yet and I already like what I’m hearing from Gwayne. HBO turning Daemon into trash and Aemond into an unlikable POS. I’m still Team Daemon but what a joke he’s turning out to be thanks to the HBO writers. Make him more interesting by making him weirder, ruthless, dumber, and more pathetic. He goes from threatening Simon Strong with a knife to crying in another scene.
Do not expect many dragon fights. It’s severely limited in that area. Vhagar fought thrice in her life and we’ve already seen two of them. Don’t expect to see her fight again until late in the series. We have the Battle of Gullet delayed until S3 when that happens before Rhaenyra takes over King’s Landing. Then what will HBO do with the two Tumbleton battles? Skip them and show it’s already been fought to save money? Tired of watching troops walk to castles and nobody is fighting.
Let’s face it, the Dance of the Dragons is overrated. Some of that from George’s own limitations as a writer. Same with Aegon the Conqueror. I’m not sure Dunk and Egg will be all that fascinating either but I do want to watch a smaller contained story. A more interesting series would be Robert’s Rebellion which consists of more Houses than just one’s own civil war. That feels more epic than the Dance.
House of the Dragon issues
- Slow and boring
- Making popular characters worse
- Less characters to root for
- Less locations to see
- Not enough dragon fights
- Stretching useless subplots too long
Ep. 7 should be another slow burn finding dragonseeds. Then Ep. 8 will end up being either the best or 2nd best episode of S2 next to The Red Dragon and the Gold.
HOT D = House of the Disappointment
Still better than The Acolyte. I will still continue to watch it. The Boys S4, Cobra Kai S6 P1, and HOT D S2 are all weaker than their previous season but I will still watch all of them. We probably won’t get a Season 3 of HOT D for another 2 years. Just a shame HBO turned one of the best, if not the best character in the Dance and turned him into a dumb and worthless character this season. It’s like taking Vader and turning him into a whiny b*tch. Oh, wait. That did happen in the Prequels.
Seasmoke: Before you die, there is something you should know about us, Darklyn.
Steffon Darklyn: What?
Seasmoke: I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
Steffon Darklyn: What's that make us?
Seasmoke: Absolutely nothing! Which is what you are about to become.
Then Seasmoke proceeds to choose Fab, one half of Milli Vanilli.
Mysaria looks good. That scene with Rhaenyra and her looked good. Would have been better if Sir Knight of House Cockblock didn't barge in.
I was annoyed by it 😒
Also annoyed.
I need a Pete peppers The 100 recap. Have you seen that series?
When Ser Stephan says “Dohaeris” he mispronounces it. It almost sounded like he mispronounced “dracharis.” The dragon hesitated and only when Ser Stephan stepped forward did the dragon roast him. Possible miscommunication there?
I totally saw the Mysaria/Rhaenyra relationship coming! I thought they built it up rather well from their first big scene together and later when Mysaria returned in order to save Rhaenyra's life.
I was shocked honestly. But it's HBo not surprised 😂
I thought the relationship was unnecessary. It was unexpected but it feels shoehorned to me
I am glad I'm completely unfamiliar with any of the books or lore of both GOT and HOTD. I have only recently seen GOT for the first time, and I knew roughly some of the final reveals, but it was nice to sit through the entire series and not be swayed or caught up watching it in real time. I would've had more complaints/problems with the last seasons, and had biases towards characters, etc. After GOT i definitely got into some of it's history and the Ice and Fire wiki's but coming into HOTD, I didn't realize it even had source material, but I'm enjoying it for what it is, and having only GOT as reference for anything, I can enjoy things without the inconsistencies or spoilers even. I would just imagine it's much different for viewers with and without knowing the books and lore beforehand.
I think certain series are suited for traditional weekly rollouts, especially epics such as GOT, BrBa, Lost, FAM, etc. Others, like maybe Succession, or Ozark, even Barry can be top tier TV and not necessarily require the same commitment... But some of these series, having a year or 2 years between seasons has become really frustrating at times. It's hard to keep the same excitement year after year when it's been so long. Better Call Saul was worth it, but would be great to have just binged after it all ended. Severance is one that has a lot going for it, but the delays can really lose some of the steam behind these shows.
I think Seasmoke claimed Adam, not the other way around.
For sure haha
So she successfully mounted and bonded with Baeleron. Or are you saying she was on his back 365 no food no water? She lived a full year with him before something went wrong where they landed. Wish we could see that, despite the tragedy that falls her.
Yes, Paddy Constantine did actually come back to the set to film this.
I guess no nettle
I really didn't like season one. In fact, I stopped watching for a while after episode S01E06; the younger and older actress swap was just too jarring (I've seen it done well in other shows). But I've enjoyed season two.
i might be wrong, but arent meleys and vhagar both females ? also, vhagar is much older and might've loved another one, like balerion ?
they are both female
Dragons change sex when needing @@PetePeppers1
When Cregan Stark goes south to join the battle, he meets black Alys (who I assume this is) and is bewtiched by her. They marry.
Vhagar and Meleys were both she-dragons, so maybe that's why they never paired up! Vermithor was (as far as we know) male and Silverwing was a confirmed she-dragon so it would make sense that they would pair up!
You're the best, I always wait for your videos
Also the vale just has baby dragons loose with children???!! Ya okay… anymore fckery and I’m out
*They didn't throw vegetables, which was an expensive luxury at that point. It was fish because that's what's relatively abundant. Safe to say it was rotten too, but when you're starving, why would you let something so crucial to your survival rot? And why not throw something else? Ah, these plot conveniences, eh? Best disregard them soon as they literally enter the scene.
I think Hugh will be the other new dragon 🐉 rider !! 🧙
thanks for the video
Like how we have a black cast as dragon riders.
so why Addam don’t got silver hair
Guess he takes after his mom
@@PetePeppers1 ah ok do we know who the mom is?
The same reason as Jon Snow.
Damon pictured that 3 some long before we did!😎
Rhaenyra kiss 💋 epic! I'm dying to see the love triangle when Daemon returns ❤
Didn’t they scissor in the book but only make out in the episode?
That fire should’ve melted those guys to a puddle..not give them enough time to cut their own throat lol (plus it was the lightest cut ever lol) poor poor directing on this episode .
I sort of wish we knew both characters better before she lost one of them to Sea Smoke (I saw Redshirt all over).
I really enjoy these episodes more so AFTER I’ve watched your recaps. 💫
1) Would somebody( Pete?) please elaborate on Helena's silenced cricket? We all know it means something, but what? 2) Sorry, but the amount of time Daemon is in the Scooby Doo and Shaggy castle is really wasted. I'm not sure what the hell is/has been going
on, but I cannot discern the important reason the Mystety Machine Van has been parked out in front for this long.
Just my theory. The silent cricket represents Alicent no longer having a voice in the green council. Almond fired her earlier.
@@HouseoftheWerewolf OK, I’ll buy that, but her visions/foreshadowing seem to be of a more important and/or ominous nature. IMO a recent one we just witnessed in episode 6 actually was foreshadowed in episode 2. When Alicent and Helaena are paraded through the streets in episode 2 as a part of the child’s funeral procession, at the 16:40 mark you can see Helaena looking up in the air frightened as the crowd yelled and threw flower petals (part of it in almost slow motion for effect) in support of her grief. I suspected then she was seeing a future occurrence when the “small folk” would not be so sympathetic. That’s exactly what we saw in episode 6 as the crowd tried to attack her and Alicent and threw food instead of flowers. Helaena is must see TV folks.
What if Seasmoke needed 2 riders?
Anyone know the point of Hugh Hammers character? is he going to be critical to the destruction of the dragon pit? Is he just Kings Landing peasant perspective? will he be dragon rider due to being a Targaryen bastard?
Yes he will be one of the dragonseeds. You can see him in the black council in the trailers
You do this really well, @PetePeppers1. Thank you, and respect.
So Alyn has silver hair but Addam has dark hair?
Lesbian scene was so hot. Hope we get to see more.
Fam. I enjoyed your energy and recap.
Here’s a suggestion though. Please try to place music in the background as a bed to your essay/recap.
This was DRY AS HELL GANG. 😅
Im really tired of the show ending with 16 minutes of rumtime to go. Who.the hell wants 16 minutes of behind the scenes? Not I.
I definitely do it's interesting but I do productions and writing so that's why but I can understand if you have no interest and just enjoy the show it is annoying but I will say the house that dragons built is so fucking coool you need to watch it to see how they pull of the look of a lot of their best scenes
Why are you complaining? Disney+ struggles to get 30 minutes per episode with their Star Wars series that are terrible shows which is why Pete doesn’t waste time covering them.
"I guess ideally you don't want to walk around slapping people"
---> what a stupid, stupid move of her.
Just say the sentence, nothing like uttering an non distinct threat, to get people motivated to tread with care.
Humiliate him in front of witnesses, and you are guaranteed to have created an eternal enemy, who will seek revenge.
Well that's what book rhaenyra was like: proud and stubborn, charming but quick to anger and never forgot a slight. Frankly it was refreshing to see, normally they have her acting way too passive.
Really bored of this series now…your reviews are so much more exciting…genuinely. The Darkland character was so clearly cannon fodder he might as well have been wearing the red uniform from Star Trek.
House of the Dullards.
Go watch the acolyte (dogshit) then who's twisting your arm bruv
Seasmoke about Ser Steffon darklyn: ah not my type 😅
You really couldn’t tell the difference in same scenes between the first one and the last one with Daemon?
Heavy spoilers completely breaks it down and show much insight to the scene with their emotions alone.
You didn’t see that? Hmmmm
Hie is not a good person
Show starting to become boring....
See Simon is HIGHLY sus. He knows more than he lets on
Slow af !!!
Woke HotD
Oh man, this season is bad.
Another boring pg-13 episode...
Think I'm gonna go back and watch Game of Thrones
Second. ?
Looks like you're the first real person to comment either way haha
Is there a review channel for this show that doesn't just lick their nuts? This season has been a huge fail! They could've done everything in 2 or 3 episodes and cut out all the ridiculous junk. What a waste of a good story.