I learned the Pirc Defense and KID for Black from RobRam's RUclips videos. The two systems complement each other and give me good choices as Black against almost any White opening. As an older player, I don't have the mental bandwidth to learn 10 different openings 20 moves deep each. His approach to "knowing where your pieces go" really resonates with me. Rob is a great teacher and a great guest for your podcast. Dr Can's Chess Clinic and Robert Ramirez' channels are my favorite ones and, IMO, the most valuable ones out there!
0:00-2:00 Introduction 2:01-3:00 Discussion on opening course 3:13-6:10 Discussion on system openings 6:53 Are system openings better for adults 8:46 Drawbacks of system openings 13:22 opinion about system opening by a chess researcher 16:32 Human psychology 18:55 predictability how to deal with it 29:27 Discussion on chessable courses 35:41 Difference between kids and adults 42:12 Robert talks about his students 48:12 Discussion on Roberts teaching methods
@@Dr.CansClinic No worries since it didn't have chapters I made one for the viewers thanks you for your work I am now 1700 rapid just few months back I was 1400
@@Dr.CansCliniconly watching videos chessable courses are too costly for Indian chess lovers including you I watch Andras toth Journey to grandmaster and hanging pawns
As much as I love Dr. Can's specific chess content, this kind of "metatheoretical" approach to learning chess is even more impressing. For me, it is an essential part of my chess curriculum. The fact that two of my favourite chess educators, the third being Andras Toth, are discussing it, is music to my ears. Thank you both for this entertaining, yet informative episode!
And another very interesting guest to talk to at the clinic :) RR is a very likeable teacher, I own his Stonewall course and am very pleased to have already won games with the Stonewall. I've just donated another 100 rubies for it ;) I've only watched the first 10 minutes here in the video, but I'm looking forward to watching the rest soon. Thank you, and please keep up the good work with the channel, Dr Can!
@@Dr.CansClinic I've played the London for a while, but played the Jobava when I foresaw black's Queen preparing to take my b2 pawn. I easily trapped the opposing Queen.
@@Słoneczko2911 Nc3! Is an amazing addition to the London System, don't you think? The Jobava London has become a great addition to the London System, for me. But, c3 will always have its place, right?
Another amazing interview with two of my all time favorite content creators. I own both opening courses from Robert and almost all courses from you and they are complementary to each other. So I actually hope that you won‘t go into the opening courses as well, because there is already so much available :-) And your courses are so unique and build on each other, which is amazing. One thing that makes Robert opening courses also special are his speed runs on YT. It is amazing how much you get on top of it for free. I believe no other author does this. I‘m an adult learner myself and also an academic learner and after watching your last three interviews I fully understand that I have to focus more on playing and learning from my mistakes than learning new stuff every week. I‘m looking forward to all the new courses of the both of you, because I can always expect the highest quality and community support! Thanks!
This is such lovely feedback, thank you so much for writing your thoughts! I am not in a hurry with the opening course after your thoughts :) We need to get our hands dirty and play/test more!
You 2 rock so much!!! I picked up chess once again because of You, NM Robert Ramirez, as I played as a kid back in Germany... miss content from you. And thank you Dr. Can for bringing out amazing content day after day --- which helps me tremendously!
47:03 As I commented under last week's episode, this information is just worth gold. I never saw my losses as a "productive failure" before. I spend so many hours training tactics, and not playing a single game of chess for weeks, because I feared to lose in my chess games and didn't feel ready to play. Now, after all these hours of doing just tactics I have to learn that playing chess games is not only essential but failure is the key to success. I have to change my whole mindset now for studying chess. I can just repeat myself over and over again. This information is so simple but so logical, it is almost embarrassing that I didn't see it by myself. Of course everybody will tell you, you have to play a lot of chess to become better, but no one is talking about the mindset how to face losses. For me as an adult improver facing losses is not something I'm used to, because I am usually the one who is in charge to prevent failures in daily life or at work. Thank you a lot for this enlightenment.
Amazing to hear your words, really glad that we have helped. Shying away from playing is a very common issue, especially for adults. But we know the strength of the productive failure and 'testing effect' in other domains.
Brilliant video. Great information. Your RUclips channel and Podcast are gold for us beginner / improving chess players. Fantastic stuff, keep up the great work. Many Thanks.
R u kidding me, Dr. Can?!!! You have Robert Ramirez on? He was my 1st RUclipsr and I started out with him (although I don't play the Pirc). He even was on with my son for 1 online chess lesson!!! I'm still not done with Chess4All course lol. Thank you for having Robert Ramirez on!!!
Even if they were "bad", I love the idea of a formation that's set to start. Or at the very least, it's the formation I want to achieve. Of course, my opponent might throw wrinkles into it - such is the nature of a war game. But the learning for me is "this is the most important part for me" and "how can I get there while responding to my opponent". It gives me a defined goal to at least go for and even though I won't get it every time, it prevents me trying to consider tons of options from the first handful of moves. There's going to be a lot of that in the rest of the game after all, so something that leaves me in a "easy" solid position upon entering the battlefield, so to speak, I can then look at how to maneuver the rest of the conflict. I will also have to look for Robert's content as well. I discovered Dr. Can's content and enjoy it a lot, and will have to check Robert's as well.
So glad to see you two together on one screen! Both of you are great coaches, please continue with putting out content, and consider doing more joint videos in the future!
Great lecture ! I've learnt so much from both your channels - its wonderful to see this collab. I hope I'm not going off topic - but I just wondered whether you have any suggestions for the White side of a Caro Kann. I'm rated about 1500 fide and would love to hear your advice !!
Amazing feedback, thank you so much! There are several ways to play against the Caro. But I always had affinity for the Panov-Botvinnik attack. I guess it is because the great Botvinnik took it as White...
men of manny tallents ... what do you mean improve ? you are doing great intervievs , know when to speak and when to let guest talk , they are relaxed your timeing is exelent you are natural , makes it look so simple ...
My favourite chess teachers together, I watch Tato the Forker almost daily and my favourite ever chess course teaching Knight check shadow, great work, thank you
That is unfortunate. Did you really not understand it at all? I posted his perpetual chess podcast episode on this video description, can you please compare the sound? I will soon release some short videos from this episode, with subtitles.
Super fantastic discussion 💯👏 over the years of a stop and go chess journey,I have observed many times players are good in the opening theory but during an actual game, they give away an outpost, they give away open file,😔ect over time I think it's best to play without openings as beginners and Develop CHESS THINKING, mechanics of chess pieces,and playing outside fixed opening structures, sometimes they get lost as they don't see an abstract formations clearly, there must be a balance in chess study I think beginners should be given a chance to develop their own openings and then move on to real openings after awhile it may help creativitly 🎉 super great video
Yeah I'm so guilty of jumping around resources and watching videos and stuff. I've just recently committed to just doing Grooten's Strategy book. No noise. Play games, analyze games, tactics, and the book.
I feel bored playing always the same System openings. And different openings give me different ideas, Strategies and different tools i can use. So i get more ideas what to do in the middle game and i get a better feeling for different positions
A great question! A system opening follows a fixed pawn structure and piece placement, almost regardless of the opponent's responses. On top of Robert's examples, we can think about the London System, the Colle System, and the King's Indian Attack. In those openings, usually we achieve the same pawn structure and very similar piece placements around the pawn structure. The non-system traditional openings are more fluid and structures and piece placements change based on the moves and nuances of the opponent's setup. Does it make sense?
My problem with system openings is that they encourage players to not pay attention to what the opponent is doing. I've had some great games against "systems" players who don't pay attention to the opponent. While they mindlessly blitz out their King's Indian sequence, I push the h-pawn until the bishop has to abandon its fianchetto and the opponent doesn't know what to do next. Or sometimes they keep playing their London moves even in situations where it's clearly not adequate anymore, and it's not that hard to disrupt this system. So if you play systems, also try to learn when it's better to deviate and give some thought to what to do when the opponent doesn't play along.
A great question! A system opening follows a fixed pawn structure and piece placement, almost regardless of the opponent's responses. On top of Robert's examples, we can think about the London System, the Colle System, and the King's Indian Attack. In those openings, usually we achieve the same pawn structure and very similar piece placements around the pawn structure. The non-system traditional openings are more fluid and structures and piece placements change based on the moves and nuances of the opponent's setup. Does it make sense?
Why don't you make a slav course but do it differently. Your way. To be honest I already have a slav course. 3 of them. But I would purchase yours for a different reason, not for move orders or lines but for understanding. I like the idea of including endagames and in detail understanding of middle game plans. And of course explaining opening moves. But if I buy your slav course I would be happy not to receive a full extensive coverage of every move my opponent could play, but an understanding of typical mistakes and plans and ways to capatalize. Kind of like your videos. I feel this would be more valuable then if you went over every variation that the opponent could throw at us. Besides I have courses for that on chessable. But your course would help me understand and feel the opening inside. Not just be prepared but own and understand the opening. So I hope you include endgames and middle game ideas and examples. I hope in some places you go further then just the line. And I honestly hope you leave other technical lines out, because all I care about from a course I buy from you is deep understanding. Like understanding the slav. I don't need it as a repertoire. I feel like your course could fill in the gaps where other repetoires fall short because they try to be complete. Maybe the difference between a repetoire and a primer in deep understanding of the slav opening. I think thats your strength and passion :p I see your course just as much a strategy and tactics course then an opening course. Thats whats so good about your videos. Why you are my number 1 channel. You combine them all. No seperation.
I learned the Pirc Defense and KID for Black from RobRam's RUclips videos. The two systems complement each other and give me good choices as Black against almost any White opening. As an older player, I don't have the mental bandwidth to learn 10 different openings 20 moves deep each. His approach to "knowing where your pieces go" really resonates with me. Rob is a great teacher and a great guest for your podcast. Dr Can's Chess Clinic and Robert Ramirez' channels are my favorite ones and, IMO, the most valuable ones out there!
❤️ That is so great to hear! He is a very good educator indeed! I admire how he grew across the years by quality content and avoiding B.S. and drama.
My two "loved" chess professors in english together.... i must be dreaming!!! Thanks to both of you for your great lessons
Our pleasure ☺️
0:00-2:00 Introduction
2:01-3:00 Discussion on opening course
3:13-6:10 Discussion on system openings
6:53 Are system openings better for adults
8:46 Drawbacks of system openings
13:22 opinion about system opening by a chess researcher
16:32 Human psychology
18:55 predictability how to deal with it
29:27 Discussion on chessable courses
35:41 Difference between kids and adults
42:12 Robert talks about his students
48:12 Discussion on Roberts teaching methods
Wow, thank you for taking your time and writing these chapter names!
@@Dr.CansClinic
No worries since it didn't have chapters I made one for the viewers thanks you for your work I am now 1700 rapid just few months back I was 1400
@@anthonymicle7559 Wooo! That is an amazing achievement!! Did you improve 300 points solely by watching my videos? Did you study any of my courses?
@@Dr.CansCliniconly watching videos chessable courses are too costly for Indian chess lovers including you I watch Andras toth Journey to grandmaster and hanging pawns
I love that he's your guest. Two of the best chess teachers on RUclips!
So glad to hear this, it was a pleasure to talk to him!
As much as I love Dr. Can's specific chess content, this kind of "metatheoretical" approach to learning chess is even more impressing. For me, it is an essential part of my chess curriculum. The fact that two of my favourite chess educators, the third being Andras Toth, are discussing it, is music to my ears. Thank you both for this entertaining, yet informative episode!
Lovely feedback, thank you! My goal is to bring one such podcast episode per week. So far, no one said no :)
And another very interesting guest to talk to at the clinic :)
RR is a very likeable teacher, I own his Stonewall course and am very pleased to have already won games with the Stonewall.
I've just donated another 100 rubies for it ;) I've only watched the first 10 minutes here in the video, but I'm looking forward to watching the rest soon.
Thank you, and please keep up the good work with the channel, Dr Can!
Thank you so much! He is a very thoughtful teacher indeed. His growth was completely organic, avoiding chess drama and B.S.
Two great chess teachers. This is so motivating and encouraging. Inspired, I started learning the Jobava London System today. Thank you so much.
Lovely to hear that! Hope the Jobava London will serve you well!
@@Dr.CansClinic I've played the London for a while, but played the Jobava when I foresaw black's Queen preparing to take my b2 pawn. I easily trapped the opposing Queen.
@@Słoneczko2911 Nc3! Is an amazing addition to the London System, don't you think? The Jobava London has become a great addition to the London System, for me. But, c3 will always have its place, right?
I learned the Pirc Defense from NM Robert Ramirez! That has become my go-to for Black. Perfect guest for you, Dr. Can.
Great feedback! Good that the Pirc has worked for you.
Hikaru said it's a rubbish opening. Beware.
@@mathewsamuel1386 Unfortunately, Hikaru is NOT an Oracle.
@@Dr.CansClinic It's great for black
because it puts you in a position to re-position easily.
I ended up trying the Reverse Botvannik, and I felt tremendously comfortable after playing the Pirc for so long. Thank you.
Another amazing interview with two of my all time favorite content creators. I own both opening courses from Robert and almost all courses from you and they are complementary to each other. So I actually hope that you won‘t go into the opening courses as well, because there is already so much available :-) And your courses are so unique and build on each other, which is amazing. One thing that makes Robert opening courses also special are his speed runs on YT. It is amazing how much you get on top of it for free. I believe no other author does this. I‘m an adult learner myself and also an academic learner and after watching your last three interviews I fully understand that I have to focus more on playing and learning from my mistakes than learning new stuff every week. I‘m looking forward to all the new courses of the both of you, because I can always expect the highest quality and community support! Thanks!
This is such lovely feedback, thank you so much for writing your thoughts! I am not in a hurry with the opening course after your thoughts :)
We need to get our hands dirty and play/test more!
Very cool to see this. When I was playing Pirc early in our lessons it’s because I watched RobRams videos so much. Awesome to see him on your channel!
Great to hear this, Ross! He was great. All the best wishes to you!
You 2 rock so much!!!
I picked up chess once again because of You, NM Robert Ramirez, as I played as a kid back in Germany... miss content from you.
And thank you Dr. Can for bringing out amazing content day after day --- which helps me tremendously!
❤️ So motivating.
47:03 As I commented under last week's episode, this information is just worth gold. I never saw my losses as a "productive failure" before. I spend so many hours training tactics, and not playing a single game of chess for weeks, because I feared to lose in my chess games and didn't feel ready to play. Now, after all these hours of doing just tactics I have to learn that playing chess games is not only essential but failure is the key to success. I have to change my whole mindset now for studying chess. I can just repeat myself over and over again. This information is so simple but so logical, it is almost embarrassing that I didn't see it by myself. Of course everybody will tell you, you have to play a lot of chess to become better, but no one is talking about the mindset how to face losses. For me as an adult improver facing losses is not something I'm used to, because I am usually the one who is in charge to prevent failures in daily life or at work.
Thank you a lot for this enlightenment.
Amazing to hear your words, really glad that we have helped. Shying away from playing is a very common issue, especially for adults. But we know the strength of the productive failure and 'testing effect' in other domains.
Great discussions, lots of good advice, thanks guys!
Our pleasure! Thank you!
Brilliant video. Great information. Your RUclips channel and Podcast are gold for us beginner / improving chess players. Fantastic stuff, keep up the great work. Many Thanks.
Amazing feedback, so motivating ❤️
R u kidding me, Dr. Can?!!! You have Robert Ramirez on? He was my 1st RUclipsr and I started out with him (although I don't play the Pirc). He even was on with my son for 1 online chess lesson!!! I'm still not done with Chess4All course lol.
Thank you for having Robert Ramirez on!!!
Lovely feedback! He is a very thoughful teacher indeed!
Even if they were "bad", I love the idea of a formation that's set to start. Or at the very least, it's the formation I want to achieve. Of course, my opponent might throw wrinkles into it - such is the nature of a war game. But the learning for me is "this is the most important part for me" and "how can I get there while responding to my opponent".
It gives me a defined goal to at least go for and even though I won't get it every time, it prevents me trying to consider tons of options from the first handful of moves. There's going to be a lot of that in the rest of the game after all, so something that leaves me in a "easy" solid position upon entering the battlefield, so to speak, I can then look at how to maneuver the rest of the conflict.
I will also have to look for Robert's content as well. I discovered Dr. Can's content and enjoy it a lot, and will have to check Robert's as well.
Great feedback, thanks! Yes, please check his content too!
So glad to see you two together on one screen! Both of you are great coaches, please continue with putting out content, and consider doing more joint videos in the future!
Thank you! I would love to host him again in the future.
Great lecture ! I've learnt so much from both your channels - its wonderful to see this collab. I hope I'm not going off topic - but I just wondered whether you have any suggestions for the White side of a Caro Kann. I'm rated about 1500 fide and would love to hear your advice !!
Amazing feedback, thank you so much!
There are several ways to play against the Caro. But I always had affinity for the Panov-Botvinnik attack. I guess it is because the great Botvinnik took it as White...
@@Dr.CansClinic Thank you - I'll definitely check that out !
men of manny tallents ... what do you mean improve ? you are doing great intervievs , know when to speak and when to let guest talk , they are relaxed your timeing is exelent you are natural , makes it look so simple ...
So motivating to hear your kind thoughts ❤️
My favourite chess teachers together, I watch Tato the Forker almost daily and my favourite ever chess course teaching Knight check shadow, great work, thank you
Amazing to hear that! Thank you for your kind words.
Great content!
Thank you so much!
Interesting conversation. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Roberts room has a lot of reverb....
It could also be his microphone 🎤. I just couldn't understand what he was saying 😢
That is unfortunate. Did you really not understand it at all? I posted his perpetual chess podcast episode on this video description, can you please compare the sound?
I will soon release some short videos from this episode, with subtitles.
Super fantastic discussion 💯👏 over the years of a stop and go chess journey,I have observed many times players are good in the opening theory but during an actual game, they give away an outpost, they give away open file,😔ect over time I think it's best to play without openings as beginners and Develop CHESS THINKING, mechanics of chess pieces,and playing outside fixed opening structures, sometimes they get lost as they don't see an abstract formations clearly, there must be a balance in chess study I think beginners should be given a chance to develop their own openings and then move on to real openings after awhile it may help creativitly 🎉 super great video
Great feedback, thanks for sharing your interesting thoughts! Chess thinking and mechanics of pieces! I like those foundational lessons!
we need that english course now ;)
Good episode. Off topic: Are those ravens or crows in your room? Smart birds. I saw a video of a crow solving an 8 step problem.
Thank you! Yes, they are Huginn and Muninn. They are very smart indeed.
Yeah I'm so guilty of jumping around resources and watching videos and stuff. I've just recently committed to just doing Grooten's Strategy book. No noise. Play games, analyze games, tactics, and the book.
I feel bored playing always the same System openings. And different openings give me different ideas, Strategies and different tools i can use. So i get more ideas what to do in the middle game and i get a better feeling for different positions
Very sound feedback, thanks for mentioning it! That is one of the strongest counterarguments to only playing system openings.
What are the major differences between a system and an opening?
A great question! A system opening follows a fixed pawn structure and piece placement, almost regardless of the opponent's responses. On top of Robert's examples, we can think about the London System, the Colle System, and the King's Indian Attack. In those openings, usually we achieve the same pawn structure and very similar piece placements around the pawn structure.
The non-system traditional openings are more fluid and structures and piece placements change based on the moves and nuances of the opponent's setup.
Does it make sense?
@Dr.CansClinic sorry for the late response. Yes, it does. It bring alot more of the debate to light. I appreciate you.
if you made a opnings course i would buy it course your way of teacing
Thank you 🙏
My problem with system openings is that they encourage players to not pay attention to what the opponent is doing. I've had some great games against "systems" players who don't pay attention to the opponent. While they mindlessly blitz out their King's Indian sequence, I push the h-pawn until the bishop has to abandon its fianchetto and the opponent doesn't know what to do next. Or sometimes they keep playing their London moves even in situations where it's clearly not adequate anymore, and it's not that hard to disrupt this system. So if you play systems, also try to learn when it's better to deviate and give some thought to what to do when the opponent doesn't play along.
Such wise words! I should have brought it up. Struggle against the opponent's ideas start on move 1!
@Dr.CansClinic Thanks. Btw I love your Fundamental Chess Calculation Chessable course. One of the best I've seen.
@@martinpaddle So nice to hear that! Next week a video release is coming for that course! :)
What is a system opening and why is it so called?
A great question! A system opening follows a fixed pawn structure and piece placement, almost regardless of the opponent's responses. On top of Robert's examples, we can think about the London System, the Colle System, and the King's Indian Attack. In those openings, usually we achieve the same pawn structure and very similar piece placements around the pawn structure.
The non-system traditional openings are more fluid and structures and piece placements change based on the moves and nuances of the opponent's setup.
Does it make sense?
@Dr.CansClinic Sure, thanks.
Why don't you make a slav course but do it differently. Your way. To be honest I already have a slav course. 3 of them. But I would purchase yours for a different reason, not for move orders or lines but for understanding. I like the idea of including endagames and in detail understanding of middle game plans. And of course explaining opening moves. But if I buy your slav course I would be happy not to receive a full extensive coverage of every move my opponent could play, but an understanding of typical mistakes and plans and ways to capatalize. Kind of like your videos. I feel this would be more valuable then if you went over every variation that the opponent could throw at us. Besides I have courses for that on chessable. But your course would help me understand and feel the opening inside. Not just be prepared but own and understand the opening. So I hope you include endgames and middle game ideas and examples. I hope in some places you go further then just the line. And I honestly hope you leave other technical lines out, because all I care about from a course I buy from you is deep understanding. Like understanding the slav. I don't need it as a repertoire. I feel like your course could fill in the gaps where other repetoires fall short because they try to be complete. Maybe the difference between a repetoire and a primer in deep understanding of the slav opening. I think thats your strength and passion :p I see your course just as much a strategy and tactics course then an opening course. Thats whats so good about your videos. Why you are my number 1 channel. You combine them all. No seperation.
I am so humbled to hear your kind thoughts. That is sort of a perfect pitch I can make to Chessable and see what they say :)
So excited to see it!