Yeah, 100%. It's already so near impossible that both the dealer and eliminated player could not read a basic hand, but the entire table and everyone watching? AND commentators? I don't know what kind of poker they play out in rozvadov.
my thoughts exactly Since they are all highly invested in the outcome of this allin, there is no way ALL of them missed the split pot! Guaranteed most if not all groaned silently when the board paired 6s but remained silent and probably incredulous as the mistake was never seen by dealer or the knocked out player I have never been at an FT for this kind of money but I have called out dealer oversights in similar situations despite it having a negative consequence on my laddering because, what is right is right Again tho, I have never had to face my conscience with this kind of money on the line soooo...who knows?
Sure it's dumb but how the fuck does a player not notice that and obviously it's your fault and responsibility for knowing your goddam hand and the winning hand. Nobody plays poker for you so maybe don't play if you can't even see winning hand after they tabled
@RambunctiousR obviously people make mistakes dumb 💩. Even the ones whose jobs are to deal and manage the games. The hand was tabled and this could've been corrected. Only really stupid people find reasons to argue against righting an obvious wrong. Choose different today.
Having dealt for numerous years at many televised final tables I can verify that dealing in those situations is mentally quite different from any other dealing situation. You have responsibilities that are not present at a regular table. In every final table I ever dealt that was on a stage as big or bigger than this one, a supervisor/announcer was present also reading winning hands. Matt Savage absolves himself of responsibility quite nicely with TDA rules but ultimately it’s him that did this.
Yeah, seems like he's using a technicality to absolve himself from responsibility. The rules are the rules, but ultimately, the director let this occur under their watch.
@@tilled6695and do u think the casino picks the dealers or that they get picked for being one of the better dealers... remember the dealer is working and doesn't give a fuck about this tourney except going home. Only a tard would trust a dealer making the no mistake. The person is human and working. Are u 100 percent at work everyday or sometimes maybe a little hung over and just want to go home. It's definitely the tourney directors fault. Not even up to debate. Deal made the same mistake a million dealers a day make. It big tournaments they need a contingency plan to make sure these mistake can't happen
@@willh1655 we all should understand one thing when we r lucky to make that far in a tournament the real money become matter , the gap between each payout is big moreover each time player get eleminated help you get closer to the tittle which all poker player want at that point and it is common sense for everything mentioned above 110% i believe they are at least one of player know it but they chose to be quite for their own sake
The dude at 5:31 on the left definitely saw the chop. He was looking right at the board thinking about it but was probably thinking more about ICM and pay jumps with another player gone.
he saw for sure, probably some others did too but as you said, who is gonna say something when it literally means they`re gonna get more money because another player is eliminated. Dealer made a rookie mistake here as did the player who lost not seeing the obvious split, people who did see it were highly motivated to stfu
Yea, while I've never been in that situation in a tournament of that size where there was that much money on the line, but I've definitely been in that situation countless times in tournaments, including at final tables ITM where hundreds or thousands of dollars were at stake, and I've never not said anything. I feel like if I didn't say something, karma would bite me and I would either go out next or it would happen to me later or I'd get a healthy serving of run bad and go on an extended downswing. Even if those things didn't happen, it would bother the hell out of me knowing I didn't say anything. I know it's not the same thing, but that's the same reason I've never cheated at cards. I used to run games and I have been approached about running some kind of scheme against other players but never even considered it. I love the game too much to taint it like that.
The first one is so dumb… you’re already busting from the tournament so giving up that info doesn’t even matter… and if she’s embarrassed well that’s dumb to, people make marginal calls sometimes, nothing to be embarrassed about.
The last one is embarrassing for King's casino more than anyone else. A mistake of that magnitude on a big final table that's being televised is terrible. That poker director did a good job of taking the attention off the casino by saying not to be critical of players mistakes. It's the casino, dealer and director that are most to blame. The losing player shouldn't have let it happen of course and shares some blame. I would be shocked if not a single player on the table was aware of it, but it pays to say nothing and level up.
@@present3348 Completely incorrect and shows no understand of how any professionally run event in any sport/game should be run. There are a few reasons players are happy for tournament fees to come out of the pool, and one of the major ones is that the casino runs a safe and secure event that is dealt and adjudicated evenly. That's what the dealers and directors are being paid to do. Much like a ref/umpire in literally any other event. By your logic a player could do something that earns them a penalty, and the player could just say 'no that's not what's happening' and continue to try and play.
HOW can what happened in chop pot situation (around715) be allowed to happen...? Should be replayed from THAT spot . It's on FILM for crissake....... makes WSOP look stupid !
I remember my cousin when he first started playing poker and later hosting cash games at his house ....he was involved in a pot with someone when they both hit a full house.. Qs full on river and he insisted he won becasue he had the ace kicker. Most of the people playing like myself kept trying to explain to him it was a chop pot but he wasnt having it. Looking back at it now, it was the funniest shyt ever, but we couldn't disagree with him because he was hosting the game at his house
I was playing in a poker tournament one night and wind up playing heads up against one player for a medium-sized pot. I tried to buy it with bottom pair and the guy called my bluff. I showed my lousy pair and, in response, he showed me only one card to prove he has a higher pair to take down the pot but he mucked the other card. The dealer accepted this and pushed the pot his way but I called the tournament director. and the director warned the other player not to do this again, and reminded the dealer to show both cards before pushing the chips anywhere. So just remember folks, in all tournament poker games, in a showdown situation, both players have to show both cards in order to take down the pot. If the player call your all-in or your bluff, he or she has to show you both cards, no matter what. Sure, he had a winning pair and his other card didn't really matter but, as a player, I still wanted to see his other card for informational purposes.
I had quite a similar one were the opponent called my river bluff. I tabled my hand, and he turns over 1 card for top pair and mucks the other. It was a bit uncomfortable as they made him pay the river bet to me, but you just gotta know the most basic of rules.
I never get to play live I only play online I live no where near a casino nearest one is like 100 mile. Obviously playing online I always get to see cards you just press the playback button if they called. Would I be hated for wanting to see every hand I have paid to see regardless of if its beaten? Why would I not want to see its information?
@@present3348 I've usually agreed with you but not on this one. Obviously the player has the most at stake, and I honestly don't think I'd miss that one as the player getting knocked out and that much stake. That being said, it is the responsibility of the tournament director and dealer to make sure they get it right, especially in such key moments. That mistake can never happen.
5:30 look how shocked this guy looks at the board, he seems frozen by the fact that no one is seeing/ignoring it. The guy on his right make a hand gesture you never see in poker like "oh damnit, next time buddy" like 5 seconds after (he realized no one recognizes the split)
The streaming team would have already picked it up as they would have to manually adjust a chopped pot that the software would have automatically done.
I just don't understand the last one. Anytime you have a paired board with the same hole card as your opponent, it should just be instinct to look for the best 5 card hand at the end. Including checking the damn board wtf 😅 Also, if both hands are turned face up at the end of action it is the dealers responsibility to read the hand correctly and distribute chips accordingly. The tournament director and casino are at fault for that one hundred percent.
@@present3348 You like to type, don’t you?? 🤪🤪🤪 By the way, champ, they clearly displayed the rules on the video. Just because you disagree with the rules doesn’t mean you can make up your own rules. That’s just plain infantile. Write whatever you want, but the rules were displayed on the screen. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏻♂️
That last one when the hands should have been chopped, just because another hand was dealt the casino can fix it. In every casino there's a list of rules shown, and every casino I worked the last one on the list was the floor can make change any of the rules he sees fit and can make the situation correct. The casino is responsible for that dealer, this is how you fix it go back to the tapes and split the pot and the player comes back.
I dont think anyone knew. if they knew they would have spoken up, if not just to brag that they are smarter, and more astute than anyone else at the table.
I was playing in a game and heads up, a player made a bet after the river. I thought about it for about 30 seconds, then threw in one chip as a call. The player demanded I put in the rest of the chips. The dealer supported him. I called the floor and he corrected it, (saying “call” or throwing in one chip is binding) but seriously? A professional dealer? Wow.
It depends if it's a cash or tournament game. Bart from CLP has brought it up multiple times in videos describing cash game scenarios. There are scumbags out there that will call but then not proceed to put the money in the pot and cash out. The dealer can't do anything about it. The player will obviously get a ban, but that may be a reason the player wanted you to put all the chips in.
@@present3348 Listen Phil Ivey, I don’t care what you have seen or how experienced and wonderful at poker you think you are, here are the rules. I won’t copy and paste from the internet but this is correct. After the river is dealt, another player I am heads-up with makes a bet, anywhere from a minimum to all-in. If I say: “Call” or place ANY number of chips over the betting line, from a single chip to the entire bet THAT IS A CALL binding to pay the rest if I lose the hand; SIMPLE. THOSE ARE THE RULES AND A PROFESSIONAL DEALER SHOULD KNOW THEM. That was a nice dissertation you wrote though, please give us some more of you incredible poker master-knowledge to all of us wanna-bs.
Robbie could have got away with it if she decided to jam making it look like a horrible bluff attempt and luckily dodging so many outs gman had. That would have been less suspicious than calling with J high haha.
i said the same thing when it happened if she jammed with jack high and got called then ok but she called with jack high like wtf , no player anywhere ever in life would make that call for that kinda money hell thats a fold if it was a 10 cents bet lol
Poker dealers are loosing. There touch .I notice they don't control the table at all once a player try to explain anything. They should shut them down..anything wrong no player should speak over the dealer ..I seen situations that the dealer tells the player yes you rite..and i called the floor the dealer was wrong
The dude with his head cocked sideways, knew it was a split... but wanted to be down to 4. Just look at him.. never looked at the player, just the cards. 7:05 mark
I wouldn't really call the poker bunny situation a controversy. In an all-in situation, you can't muck! Even if you're 2nd to show and losing. It's a rule. She's just wrong, 100%. To me, controversy means that although one side of the incident is likely overwhelming correct, the other side that is perceived as being in the wrong has at the very least a weak but defendable position for their actions. Not the case here. I get that she might have been embarrassed, and in a non all-in situation she sees that she's beaten, mucks, and the world moves on. But her embarrassment aside, she put herself in the situation where she can't muck. A warning seems like throwaway discipline here. When the player is fully aware their action is against the rules, and not only that, puts the dealer or other staff in a state of unease if not threat, there needs to be much stiffer discipline, the table staff doesn't need to be made to feel uncomfortable just because you feel "embarrassed". She shouldn't have been allowed to enter further tournaments at that event.
I haven’t played poker in a long time. On the last segment, both players got Jacks and sixes, but wouldn’t the hand go to the player with the King anyway as the other guy only had a 10? Everything was even except one player had King high
@@somehomosapian7144 I guess those are the rules as ultimately only 5 cards count. Maybe the winner having a King high, showing is why the loser didn’t challenge it. Sucks that the dealer and people responsible for putting on the tournament didn’t see it.
No way the players didn't see that chopped pot mistake, they all saw it but wanted a larger payday.. sadly there is no honor in this game, it all comes down to money. There is absolutely no way you play at that high of a level and not be able to read the board.. If they can misread the board at that level, why are they all so certain that the woman player cheated in that streamed poker game? everyone is 100% certain she cheated yet nobody at all is saying, maybe she misread the board just like what happened in this video? That is some straight up bs, you cant say it for one instance and then totally deny it for the other instance.
The professional commutators missed it, one of their best dealers missed it, the player missed it. The guy that "lost" the hand went all in preflow with J10. He was super short on chips so there was no need for players to not call this out. These guys are successful and have money, a pay bump isn't going to matter to them. When you have had success in life and you are comfortable, you usually do the right thing in situations like this. If someone is dirt broke and has nothing, that is when someone stays quiet.
@@rickwagner3797 unless you know these people 100%, you can't say they have money, a lot of players sell their action. And also have bad sessions that you don't see or hear about.
Poker Bunny was wrong, should have just showed her hand and walked away. I can understand though her frustration and embarrassment. Playing for 3 days and getting so close to cashing would hard to take. She followed this up by cashing in the PSPC with an even worse beat on the river and she did just walk away. She has come a long way in the past year and is getting deeper in these big tournaments.
Hands down Mike Postle is the biggest poker scandal. You can’t profit from a crime so if he is convicted of taking that 15k, I would think he (if he plans on profiting from his tell all) he can be stopped from profiting.
Mike Postle was the guy in Sacramento that almost certainly cheated at Stones Casino many times on stream. The way he played is just not possible but that was not part of this video. The kid that stoke a few 5 chips off of Robbi's stack was discussed in this video and is working on a documentary. Since he's on the run from the law I doubt he is too worried about the rule against making money on a crime. I also doubt it'll make much money anyway, small time internet documentaries usually don't break the bank. Sounds like he just wants to tell his side and maybe start a big fire
That is truly pathetic. And, if those other players were just being quiet....there's a special place in hell for them. It is OUR JOB, as a player dealt in a hand, to make sure the pot is pushed to the winner, in a tabled hand situation. It is for the integrity of the game. Dealers really have to start pushing the boards up. This is getting ridiculous.
Unfortunately for you if you plan to play live poker that is in fact not at all how poker works. Protecting your hand and properly reading the board are in fact responsibilities of the player and the player alone. No hell for anyone who noticed as it benefitsthem and while you think this is a fair game... it is not.. it is a mans game (no crying in baseball!). Just less money for this man who did not realize and allowed the pot to go to the other player. Happens more often than you would think but in the end you are responsible for you.
@present3348 - Clown, when there is NO MORE ACTION...cards speak. You just wasted all of your time, trying to educate me on something that's a moot point. If the cards are face-up, then YES, it is ALL PLAYERS' job, to make sure the pot is pushed to the correct player.
Lol No... They all saw it. A whole lot of "Not my Job" going on in that clip. That dealer and whoever was commentating (assuming they really missed it and it wasn't just a situation where they had no way to contact the game, but were asking what was going on on-air) should NEVER work a holdem tournament again. They are clearly unqualified.
lmao as a poker player you need to be awae of ur hand at all times the chop pot well thats his own fault , same shit happened to me deal push the pot to the other guy i was like whoa eh whoa its a chop lmao oh sorry sir you are right lol dont play poker if u have no clue wtf is going on at all times lmao idiot thats all on him , and if i was those other players ya i wouldnt of said shit either i just climbed up the money ladder
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The players at the tourney 100% DID see the mistake, but were thinking about laddering up...
Yeah, 100%. It's already so near impossible that both the dealer and eliminated player could not read a basic hand, but the entire table and everyone watching? AND commentators? I don't know what kind of poker they play out in rozvadov.
my thoughts exactly
Since they are all highly invested in the outcome of this allin, there is no way ALL of them missed the split pot! Guaranteed most if not all groaned silently when the board paired 6s but remained silent and probably incredulous as the mistake was never seen by dealer or the knocked out player
I have never been at an FT for this kind of money but I have called out dealer oversights in similar situations despite it having a negative consequence on my laddering because, what is right is right
Again tho, I have never had to face my conscience with this kind of money on the line soooo...who knows?
What would you have done?
Like @ 7:06 it seems that guy got a long look at the board
@@SF49ersfanatic lmao
That tournament situation is pure bullshit.
The hands were tabled so the situation should've been rectified.
Sure it's dumb but how the fuck does a player not notice that and obviously it's your fault and responsibility for knowing your goddam hand and the winning hand. Nobody plays poker for you so maybe don't play if you can't even see winning hand after they tabled
@RambunctiousR obviously people make mistakes dumb 💩.
Even the ones whose jobs are to deal and manage the games.
The hand was tabled and this could've been corrected.
Only really stupid people find reasons to argue against righting an obvious wrong.
Choose different today.
Thats why good dealers rise the needed cards in front of them to count the top 5 cards
Having dealt for numerous years at many televised final tables I can verify that dealing in those situations is mentally quite different from any other dealing situation. You have responsibilities that are not present at a regular table.
In every final table I ever dealt that was on a stage as big or bigger than this one, a supervisor/announcer was present also reading winning hands.
Matt Savage absolves himself of responsibility quite nicely with TDA rules but ultimately it’s him that did this.
Yeah, seems like he's using a technicality to absolve himself from responsibility. The rules are the rules, but ultimately, the director let this occur under their watch.
no its the dealers fault, the dealer should never be allowed to deal for tv or final tables. the pressure is their but ITS YOUR JOB. she failed
@@tilled6695and do u think the casino picks the dealers or that they get picked for being one of the better dealers... remember the dealer is working and doesn't give a fuck about this tourney except going home. Only a tard would trust a dealer making the no mistake. The person is human and working. Are u 100 percent at work everyday or sometimes maybe a little hung over and just want to go home. It's definitely the tourney directors fault. Not even up to debate. Deal made the same mistake a million dealers a day make. It big tournaments they need a contingency plan to make sure these mistake can't happen
Crazy oversight by so many. I'll bet table-talk contributed to the awareness blindness. Love to hear audio of hand.
For the last situation it is not like other players did acknowledge in fact they did but they let it goes intentionally because of the money jump
It is actually against the rules. But there is no way to prove that any players saw the mistake.
@@willh1655 we all should understand one thing when we r lucky to make that far in a tournament the real money become matter , the gap between each payout is big moreover each time player get eleminated help you get closer to the tittle which all poker player want at that point and it is common sense for everything mentioned above 110% i believe they are at least one of player know it but they chose to be quite for their own sake
The dude at 5:31 on the left definitely saw the chop. He was looking right at the board thinking about it but was probably thinking more about ICM and pay jumps with another player gone.
was last 5 of the final table lol hell yeah Imma let someone else go so pay increases for me.
he saw for sure, probably some others did too but as you said, who is gonna say something when it literally means they`re gonna get more money because another player is eliminated. Dealer made a rookie mistake here as did the player who lost not seeing the obvious split, people who did see it were highly motivated to stfu
Damn I just commented this same thing. Then read comments. I thought I was saying something new. 😂
Yea, while I've never been in that situation in a tournament of that size where there was that much money on the line, but I've definitely been in that situation countless times in tournaments, including at final tables ITM where hundreds or thousands of dollars were at stake, and I've never not said anything. I feel like if I didn't say something, karma would bite me and I would either go out next or it would happen to me later or I'd get a healthy serving of run bad and go on an extended downswing. Even if those things didn't happen, it would bother the hell out of me knowing I didn't say anything. I know it's not the same thing, but that's the same reason I've never cheated at cards. I used to run games and I have been approached about running some kind of scheme against other players but never even considered it. I love the game too much to taint it like that.
The first one is so dumb… you’re already busting from the tournament so giving up that info doesn’t even matter… and if she’s embarrassed well that’s dumb to, people make marginal calls sometimes, nothing to be embarrassed about.
If you check her twitter she pinned a tweet saying she had AA. People think it was to save face for backers.
@@casualfitzy6493 How many backers do you think she has just for the ears and don't care about the cards?
Yup it was backers, but I call them suckers now. 😂 They'll be thinking twice moving forward! And that was a bannable offense.
@@jamesbell1613lmao so she made a business decision. 😂 Can’t fault her for that
It’s hard to read because the dealer overlaps each cards. I have never seen that before.
The last one is embarrassing for King's casino more than anyone else. A mistake of that magnitude on a big final table that's being televised is terrible. That poker director did a good job of taking the attention off the casino by saying not to be critical of players mistakes. It's the casino, dealer and director that are most to blame. The losing player shouldn't have let it happen of course and shares some blame. I would be shocked if not a single player on the table was aware of it, but it pays to say nothing and level up.
its NOT a players mistake.... its Dealer and tournament officials mistake.
Im sure some of the other players notice but having another player leave means more money left in the pot.
@@present3348 Completely incorrect and shows no understand of how any professionally run event in any sport/game should be run. There are a few reasons players are happy for tournament fees to come out of the pool, and one of the major ones is that the casino runs a safe and secure event that is dealt and adjudicated evenly. That's what the dealers and directors are being paid to do. Much like a ref/umpire in literally any other event.
By your logic a player could do something that earns them a penalty, and the player could just say 'no that's not what's happening' and continue to try and play.
Come on, she’s been dealing for six years!!
HOW can what happened in chop pot situation (around715) be allowed to happen...?
Should be replayed from THAT spot . It's on FILM for crissake.......
makes WSOP look stupid !
Guy looking at the board at 5:30 - you can almost see the wheels turning and him thinking through what to do.
Yup, he realized..
Everyone knows this guy colluded with Robbie.
Not me
Absolutely 💯
And I doubt judge him.. you’d probably do the same
Poker bunny didn’t want her backer to see what she called with
AKA Simp
It's televised which is the craziest part lol
She made a business decision.. can’t fault her 😂
I remember my cousin when he first started playing poker and later hosting cash games at his house ....he was involved in a pot with someone when they both hit a full house.. Qs full on river and he insisted he won becasue he had the ace kicker. Most of the people playing like myself kept trying to explain to him it was a chop pot but he wasnt having it. Looking back at it now, it was the funniest shyt ever, but we couldn't disagree with him because he was hosting the game at his house
Did google exist? I’m sure it did. Could’ve found out that way, but the host probably wasn’t having that.
So the guy who stole is gonna make money... making things up. If anyone buys it or covers it they are dumb
Yep there’s zero chance she wasn’t cheating. And eh most definitely was part of it.
I was playing in a poker tournament one night and wind up playing heads up against one player for a medium-sized pot. I tried to buy it with bottom pair and the guy called my bluff. I showed my lousy pair and, in response, he showed me only one card to prove he has a higher pair to take down the pot but he mucked the other card. The dealer accepted this and pushed the pot his way but I called the tournament director. and the director warned the other player not to do this again, and reminded the dealer to show both cards before pushing the chips anywhere. So just remember folks, in all tournament poker games, in a showdown situation, both players have to show both cards in order to take down the pot. If the player call your all-in or your bluff, he or she has to show you both cards, no matter what. Sure, he had a winning pair and his other card didn't really matter but, as a player, I still wanted to see his other card for informational purposes.
Good bit of info thanks 👍
Indeed, showdown is called showdown for a reason... It's because you have to show your cards down on the table lol
I had quite a similar one were the opponent called my river bluff. I tabled my hand, and he turns over 1 card for top pair and mucks the other. It was a bit uncomfortable as they made him pay the river bet to me, but you just gotta know the most basic of rules.
@@jakecooper5855 Was this a tournament game or cash game?
I never get to play live I only play online I live no where near a casino nearest one is like 100 mile. Obviously playing online I always get to see cards you just press the playback button if they called. Would I be hated for wanting to see every hand I have paid to see regardless of if its beaten? Why would I not want to see its information?
7:06 Guy in the left understood but wanted to ladder :D
Was going to say, you can tell the guy on the left is looking and knows like wait hold up guys, it's a split pot!!! 😛😛😛
The one about the winning hand not being read correctly is on the dealer. She should have been taken off the table once the mistake was realized.
@@present3348 I've usually agreed with you but not on this one. Obviously the player has the most at stake, and I honestly don't think I'd miss that one as the player getting knocked out and that much stake. That being said, it is the responsibility of the tournament director and dealer to make sure they get it right, especially in such key moments. That mistake can never happen.
A game like poker is all about lying and deception, you’re not going to find many honest people.
5:30 look how shocked this guy looks at the board, he seems frozen by the fact that no one is seeing/ignoring it.
The guy on his right make a hand gesture you never see in poker like "oh damnit, next time buddy" like 5 seconds after (he realized no one recognizes the split)
The streaming team would have already picked it up as they would have to manually adjust a chopped pot that the software would have automatically done.
cmon everyone ... pair of Jacks pair of 6 and Ace kicker and no one saw a split pot ?? i dont believe this
Well, I bet one of those players gave the dealer (who couldn't see the split pot) a big tip when that tourney was over.
I just don't understand the last one. Anytime you have a paired board with the same hole card as your opponent, it should just be instinct to look for the best 5 card hand at the end. Including checking the damn board wtf 😅
Also, if both hands are turned face up at the end of action it is the dealers responsibility to read the hand correctly and distribute chips accordingly. The tournament director and casino are at fault for that one hundred percent.
@@present3348 You like to type, don’t you?? 🤪🤪🤪
By the way, champ, they clearly displayed the rules on the video. Just because you disagree with the rules doesn’t mean you can make up your own rules. That’s just plain infantile.
Write whatever you want, but the rules were displayed on the screen.
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That last one when the hands should have been chopped, just because another hand was dealt the casino can fix it. In every casino there's a list of rules shown, and every casino I worked the last one on the list was the floor can make change any of the rules he sees fit and can make the situation correct. The casino is responsible for that dealer, this is how you fix it go back to the tapes and split the pot and the player comes back.
The dealer is still highly at fault. Your job is to make sure the pot is correct, and know who wins the pot (or chops it).
Nobody at the table, and not even the match commentators, noticed it. The dealer is human just like everyone else at that table, not a machine.
Cant believe Loeliger trying to muck her cards, never in my life!!
Scared her backer will see lol she can’t lie about the bust out
Great content as always.
Glad you enjoyed it
The night she played KK on HCL the chat pro roasting that followed has traumatized her permanently.
5:32 guy to the left 100%
seen the error..
I dont think anyone knew. if they knew they would have spoken up, if not just to brag that they are smarter, and more astute than anyone else at the table.
I was playing in a game and heads up, a player made a bet after the river. I thought about it for about 30 seconds, then threw in one chip as a call. The player demanded I put in the rest of the chips. The dealer supported him. I called the floor and he corrected it, (saying “call” or throwing in one chip is binding) but seriously? A professional dealer? Wow.
It depends if it's a cash or tournament game. Bart from CLP has brought it up multiple times in videos describing cash game scenarios. There are scumbags out there that will call but then not proceed to put the money in the pot and cash out. The dealer can't do anything about it. The player will obviously get a ban, but that may be a reason the player wanted you to put all the chips in.
@@present3348 Listen Phil Ivey, I don’t care what you have seen or how experienced and wonderful at poker you think you are, here are the rules. I won’t copy and paste from the internet but this is correct. After the river is dealt, another player I am heads-up with makes a bet, anywhere from a minimum to all-in. If I say: “Call” or place ANY number of chips over the betting line, from a single chip to the entire bet THAT IS A CALL binding to pay the rest if I lose the hand; SIMPLE. THOSE ARE THE RULES AND A PROFESSIONAL DEALER SHOULD KNOW THEM. That was a nice dissertation you wrote though, please give us some more of you incredible poker master-knowledge to all of us wanna-bs.
Hmmm I’m sure your intentions were pure, but ppl have angled that way…
Robbie could have got away with it if she decided to jam making it look like a horrible bluff attempt and luckily dodging so many outs gman had. That would have been less suspicious than calling with J high haha.
it 's over with, it's old, played out, move on
@tonysodano no it ain't. Thats why you're on here lol.
i said the same thing when it happened if she jammed with jack high and got called then ok but she called with jack high like wtf , no player anywhere ever in life would make that call for that kinda money hell thats a fold if it was a 10 cents bet lol
She just won the fan vote on PokerGo for the BEST CASTRATION AWARD 🔪🧆🏆EVER.
Poker dealers are loosing. There touch .I notice they don't control the table at all once a player try to explain anything. They should shut them down..anything wrong no player should speak over the dealer ..I seen situations that the dealer tells the player yes you rite..and i called the floor the dealer was wrong
The dude with his head cocked sideways, knew it was a split... but wanted to be down to 4. Just look at him.. never looked at the player, just the cards. 7:05 mark
The dealers at my local casino wouldn't read that chopped hand either they are useless
Where do these poker players and dealers come from Washington DC?
5:35 apparently other people knows it’s a chop!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 they just choose to be quite and get the money jump
Paulina is a horrible person to be around in real life. Fact
I wouldn't really call the poker bunny situation a controversy. In an all-in situation, you can't muck! Even if you're 2nd to show and losing. It's a rule. She's just wrong, 100%. To me, controversy means that although one side of the incident is likely overwhelming correct, the other side that is perceived as being in the wrong has at the very least a weak but defendable position for their actions. Not the case here. I get that she might have been embarrassed, and in a non all-in situation she sees that she's beaten, mucks, and the world moves on. But her embarrassment aside, she put herself in the situation where she can't muck. A warning seems like throwaway discipline here. When the player is fully aware their action is against the rules, and not only that, puts the dealer or other staff in a state of unease if not threat, there needs to be much stiffer discipline, the table staff doesn't need to be made to feel uncomfortable just because you feel "embarrassed". She shouldn't have been allowed to enter further tournaments at that event.
5:28 "the rest of the table did not see the error either"
ALSO
guy sitting down on the left STARING confused at the cards
Of course other players saw it. I wouldn't say shit either.
Look at the one guy he literally said something haha
You cannot just throw your cards in the muck when you are all in. Poker Bunny needs to be banned.
Ya just warning seems inappropriate.
I haven’t played poker in a long time. On the last segment, both players got Jacks and sixes, but wouldn’t the hand go to the player with the King anyway as the other guy only had a 10? Everything was even except one player had King high
Ace on the board plays so it's a split pot
@@somehomosapian7144 I guess those are the rules as ultimately only 5 cards count. Maybe the winner having a King high, showing is why the loser didn’t challenge it. Sucks that the dealer and people responsible for putting on the tournament didn’t see it.
No way the players didn't see that chopped pot mistake, they all saw it but wanted a larger payday.. sadly there is no honor in this game, it all comes down to money. There is absolutely no way you play at that high of a level and not be able to read the board.. If they can misread the board at that level, why are they all so certain that the woman player cheated in that streamed poker game? everyone is 100% certain she cheated yet nobody at all is saying, maybe she misread the board just like what happened in this video? That is some straight up bs, you cant say it for one instance and then totally deny it for the other instance.
The professional commutators missed it, one of their best dealers missed it, the player missed it. The guy that "lost" the hand went all in preflow with J10. He was super short on chips so there was no need for players to not call this out. These guys are successful and have money, a pay bump isn't going to matter to them. When you have had success in life and you are comfortable, you usually do the right thing in situations like this. If someone is dirt broke and has nothing, that is when someone stays quiet.
@@rickwagner3797 unless you know these people 100%, you can't say they have money, a lot of players sell their action. And also have bad sessions that you don't see or hear about.
She cannot be that good of a dealer, and it was horrific that the casino made lame back tracking like that.
@@jamesbell1613 she could of been on autopilot which a lot of these dealers go on after long sessions. Even the best dealers can make mistakes.
EVERY POKER CONTROVERSY INVOLVED A WOAHMAN
Poker bunny is literally a waste of a poker seat. No wonder why she gets staked from other men…. 🧐
Making somebody show her hand is ignorant. Idt she was embarrassed, just tilted.
How?
I’m sure players noticed but they all wanted him to bust
Pierre. No one seen mistake. Bs. Noticed a few noticed it. 1 more place they jump up.
Everyone was asleep on that last one.
I never say anything unless I am in the hand. Neither should anyone else.
So much for “cards speak”
Dealer should have made her turn her cards over
Poker Bunny was wrong, should have just showed her hand and walked away. I can understand though her frustration and embarrassment. Playing for 3 days and getting so close to cashing would hard to take. She followed this up by cashing in the PSPC with an even worse beat on the river and she did just walk away. She has come a long way in the past year and is getting deeper in these big tournaments.
simp
Always some shenanigans with poker bunny. She should be banned everywhere.
Hands down Mike Postle is the biggest poker scandal. You can’t profit from a crime so if he is convicted of taking that 15k, I would think he (if he plans on profiting from his tell all) he can be stopped from profiting.
It wasn`t Mike Postle that took the 15k.
Mike Postle was the guy in Sacramento that almost certainly cheated at Stones Casino many times on stream. The way he played is just not possible but that was not part of this video. The kid that stoke a few 5 chips off of Robbi's stack was discussed in this video and is working on a documentary. Since he's on the run from the law I doubt he is too worried about the rule against making money on a crime. I also doubt it'll make much money anyway, small time internet documentaries usually don't break the bank. Sounds like he just wants to tell his side and maybe start a big fire
@@RichardRennes I’m talking about 2 different things
@@rickwagner3797 I get it. I thought the person talking said biggest scandals although the title says controversy
Poker bunny is a joke
Playing whilst pregnant will never be a good idea. Hormones raging
Poker Donkey I MEAN "bunny"
So obvious robbi is in on a scam.
I'm such a child !, i can't help it i'm mesmerized by the mammaries! J4 .
Name and shame
The usual suspects.
That is truly pathetic. And, if those other players were just being quiet....there's a special place in hell for them. It is OUR JOB, as a player dealt in a hand, to make sure the pot is pushed to the winner, in a tabled hand situation. It is for the integrity of the game. Dealers really have to start pushing the boards up. This is getting ridiculous.
Unfortunately for you if you plan to play live poker that is in fact not at all how poker works. Protecting your hand and properly reading the board are in fact responsibilities of the player and the player alone. No hell for anyone who noticed as it benefitsthem and while you think this is a fair game... it is not.. it is a mans game (no crying in baseball!). Just less money for this man who did not realize and allowed the pot to go to the other player. Happens more often than you would think but in the end you are responsible for you.
I don't blame the players one bit for not saying something.
@present3348 - Clown, when there is NO MORE ACTION...cards speak. You just wasted all of your time, trying to educate me on something that's a moot point. If the cards are face-up, then YES, it is ALL PLAYERS' job, to make sure the pot is pushed to the correct player.
@noneya7018 - Wrong. Did you even watch/listen to #4, where Savage explains the rule? Clearly not. Go back and watch it.
@@jamesbell1613- You should. Go back and watch #4. Savage explains the rule. It's ALWAYS been the rule.
Wowowow, poker is this soft rn??? Wtf . The entire table didnt see it??
Lol No... They all saw it. A whole lot of "Not my Job" going on in that clip. That dealer and whoever was commentating (assuming they really missed it and it wasn't just a situation where they had no way to contact the game, but were asking what was going on on-air) should NEVER work a holdem tournament again. They are clearly unqualified.
lmao as a poker player you need to be awae of ur hand at all times the chop pot well thats his own fault , same shit happened to me deal push the pot to the other guy i was like whoa eh whoa its a chop lmao oh sorry sir you are right lol dont play poker if u have no clue wtf is going on at all times lmao idiot thats all on him , and if i was those other players ya i wouldnt of said shit either i just climbed up the money ladder
Poker bunny is a lunatic
exploiting poker scandals, but promoting the biggest scam of all, internet poker.. gtfoh
Robbi just won the fan vote on PokerGo for the BEST CASTRATION AWARD 🔪🧆🏆EVER