Tenor trombone was the first brass instrument I played during my school days. I only had a basic student-grade Blessing, and this was in the days (40 years ago) before F attachments had started to enter the affordable market here in the UK. I never reached a particularly competent level of proficiency and always preferred the idea of a valved instrument. In those days this meant trumpets and cornets, though I'd have been happier in the tenor/alto range. Sadly those opportunities didn't present themselves so my interest waned, and as I entered young adulthood other priorities took hold. It was decades before I would return to this field and, while the intermediate years have allowed me greater scope in choice of instruments, they were less generous towards my abilities and opportunities to practice with others. I have to wonder, if a trombone like this had been in my grasp 4 decades ago, whether my musical journey would have been a richer one.
Thanks for sharing good information on the trombone. This is coming from one whose primary brass experience is on trumpet with only two years of training on the trombone. I had heard of the good reputation of the Jean Paul brand of trumpets, so I expected good things with this. The trombone I have been using is a Moz brand Bb/F which at my estimate runs about 60% of the price of the JP. The other difference is that my Moz has the closed loop arrangement of the F attachment tubing rather than the open loop of the JP. That trombone you reviewed does have a nice sound to it…then again, it probably helps to have an experienced professional behind the mouthpiece. :) I’d be interested in seeing you check out a Moz for an opinion. All the best.
How do the physical features of that trombone feel compared to some of the other Chinese trombones you've had in the past? How do the valve and slides feel? Do they function properly and smoothly?
I just bought a Jean Paul TB-600 and have found that it plays flat with the tuning slide pushed in all the way. My Jupiter trombone plays just fine. Anyone else have a flat TB-600?
whenever you outgrow how much a beginner horn will let you grow. more advanced horns come with subtle nuances that are completely ignored in most beginner horns. if you're a beginner still playing basic rhythms in the middle register, you probably don't need to upgrade, but once you feel like your instrument is genuinely holding you back, then you should buy one.
I stuck with my beginner horn which was a decently nice Jupiter from middle school through highschool. I bought an f attachment yamaha horn because I’m now playing in college. I’d recommend getting one mid way through highschool. I was getting good enough then that I really could have benefited from an upgrade. Yamaha makes great trombones and you can find an older model for a good deal. My horn was about 5 years old when I bought it. Valve is very free with little resistance but works just about as well as you’d expect a rotor to. The slide is absolutely great. I’d recommend getting an open wrap like the one in the video.
Open wrap for the F attachment feels wrong for a learner. The F tuning slide sticks out a long way and is very prone to being bashed and damaged. I understand why experienced players mostly prefer open wrap, but for learners and intermediate level closed or semi open wrap (like the King 4B design) work just as well and will be less prone to damage.
Tenor trombone was the first brass instrument I played during my school days. I only had a basic student-grade Blessing, and this was in the days (40 years ago) before F attachments had started to enter the affordable market here in the UK. I never reached a particularly competent level of proficiency and always preferred the idea of a valved instrument. In those days this meant trumpets and cornets, though I'd have been happier in the tenor/alto range. Sadly those opportunities didn't present themselves so my interest waned, and as I entered young adulthood other priorities took hold. It was decades before I would return to this field and, while the intermediate years have allowed me greater scope in choice of instruments, they were less generous towards my abilities and opportunities to practice with others. I have to wonder, if a trombone like this had been in my grasp 4 decades ago, whether my musical journey would have been a richer one.
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I watched your videos 6 years ago. Now I just started picking up Trombone back after 3 years and wow! You lost quite a lot of weight! Nice work ❤
I love this channel, as Trent is able to keep me interested in playing my horn!
Interesting video. I used to love going to the trade shows and trying out different instruments.
Thanks for sharing good information on the trombone. This is coming from one whose primary brass experience is on trumpet with only two years of training on the trombone. I had heard of the good reputation of the Jean Paul brand of trumpets, so I expected good things with this.
The trombone I have been using is a Moz brand Bb/F which at my estimate runs about 60% of the price of the JP. The other difference is that my Moz has the closed loop arrangement of the F attachment tubing rather than the open loop of the JP.
That trombone you reviewed does have a nice sound to it…then again, it probably helps to have an experienced professional behind the mouthpiece. :)
I’d be interested in seeing you check out a Moz for an opinion.
All the best.
What was the name of the song you were playing in the beginning?
It sounds like a variation from Hansel’s Aria con Variazioni, but I could be wrong
It sounds like a variation from Handel’s Aria con Variazioni, but I could be wrong
How do the physical features of that trombone feel compared to some of the other Chinese trombones you've had in the past? How do the valve and slides feel? Do they function properly and smoothly?
I just bought a Jean Paul TB-600 and have found that it plays flat with the tuning slide pushed in all the way. My Jupiter trombone plays just fine. Anyone else have a flat TB-600?
Nice concise review.
When would you say is an appropriate time to get a step up trombone?
Half past 4 (ba-dum-tish...)
If you are in the US, I would say around the beginning of high school (or about 3-4 years after beginning trombone).
whenever you outgrow how much a beginner horn will let you grow. more advanced horns come with subtle nuances that are completely ignored in most beginner horns. if you're a beginner still playing basic rhythms in the middle register, you probably don't need to upgrade, but once you feel like your instrument is genuinely holding you back, then you should buy one.
I stuck with my beginner horn which was a decently nice Jupiter from middle school through highschool. I bought an f attachment yamaha horn because I’m now playing in college. I’d recommend getting one mid way through highschool. I was getting good enough then that I really could have benefited from an upgrade. Yamaha makes great trombones and you can find an older model for a good deal. My horn was about 5 years old when I bought it. Valve is very free with little resistance but works just about as well as you’d expect a rotor to. The slide is absolutely great. I’d recommend getting an open wrap like the one in the video.
You should review eastrock black trumpet
Is this a large shank or small shank?
Open wrap for the F attachment feels wrong for a learner. The F tuning slide sticks out a long way and is very prone to being bashed and damaged. I understand why experienced players mostly prefer open wrap, but for learners and intermediate level closed or semi open wrap (like the King 4B design) work just as well and will be less prone to damage.
I learned on an Olds Ambassador with an F-attachment. It was old when I played it back in the late 1990s, but it was a beast with the Bach 3 I had.
can you really reach down to a low concert B natural with this F attachment?
If you pull out the tuning slide
Looks very similar to my Yamaha
This video is not great… jeez
Josh, you're two letters away from being an asset
@@TrentHamilton good one!