IJN Oyodo - Guide 097
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The Oyodo class, a unique light cruiser of the Imperial Japanese Navy, is today's subject.
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Joe Redmon sounds like a crowd of football (soccer) fans to me! Lol. Or maybe our parliament 🤔
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You can see in her design the forerunner of more modern designs with a large hanger in the rear and the main armaments all forward. I wont say she was forward thinking, because she wasn't, but it's clear that the Japanese stumbled into a design that everyone would adopt later during the age of missiles, and the age of helicopters. Thanks for the content!
You feel like if this had been an allied ship and survived the war, the seaplanes could have been swapped for helicopters to make a rather nice little ASW helicopter cruiser a la Tiger-class
"Forward thinking"; no pun intended.
@@OhSome1HasThisName The crew is a far bit larger so uneconomical compared with a new destroyer size gas-turbine equipped cruiser but the robot cruiser conversion of 4 Baltimore class cruisers is also an example.
The design does have a certain elegance and arcane modernity.
@@vindobonaification "large hangar in the rear and main armaments all forward"
Pun very much intended ✌️😁
I've only just noticed a startling ommission on this channel.
Kongo is needed!
Kongou best waifu!
It's on the list to do :)
What about Krasny Krym or USS Samuel B. Roberts
@@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN BURNING LOVE!
Haru-haruuu!
It's amazing how some ships could get hit by massive numbers of attacks and carry on for the longest time whereas others get annihilated almost immediately.
"The ship wasn't meant to . . ."
Anyone using that logic should consult their enemies first to make sure they're all on the same page. Like battlecruisers, who end up being misused by idiots that want more battleships in the line, any cruiser meant to avoid enemy ships is doomed to misuse by its nation's admirals.
Get in there, Oyodo! Kill that Baltimore!
But, sir! I'm not that kind of cruiser!
You're a cruiser. Get in there and ACT like one!
It's raining Japanese men!
Wow, the Oyodo used up all the luck from the Japanese Navy. So little armor and still could survive so many hits...
Lourenco Almada I thought that was Yukikaze and Shigure?
It might have been because of a lack of armaments. Nothing to blow up inside the ship once hit.
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn 35 knot top speed ?? THAT is more latent energy in the boilers than really necessary to cut the ship in two pieces if a torpedo hits the right place (instant vaporization of everyone in the boiler rooms.)
Perhaps she had a good skipper.
@@connormclernon26 Ah yes... The legend of the pheonix of Kure.
That was one tough little ship there. Interesting how it still managed to be very useful despite the multiple shifts in strategy by the Japanese Navy leading up to and through the Second World War.
Thanks for another well made video. I have always thought the Oyodo was an early look at what later helicopter and missile cruiser conversions looked like. It seems the Japanese didn't really understand how valuable her radar and communications suite and aircraft, combined with her high speed, could have been to the fleet. After expending materials and time the Japanese didn't have converting a large part of her hangers to flag accommodations in early 1944, her days as a flagship only lasted four months before Admiral Toyoda wisely decided he'd have a longer lifespan by commanding an underground bunker in Yokohama rather than a warship. That left the Oyodo to be nothing but a large and fast transport until her inevitable sinking. The Japanese, if they had had started sooner and spent less time from launching to commissioning, had the chance to develop a class of cruiser that saw later iterations in the Tiger class and ships like the Jeanne d'Arc
Indeed
Felt sorry for the ship when I saw it on its side.
I always feel sorry for the ships that were destroyed, they weren't evil, they were built for a task that many did extremely well.
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would live to see one extended video about the zerstörer ships of the kriegsmarine, the destroyers before and during ww2
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I love how I am playing a game, (War at sea), and I'm wondering about a ship in game, and I can just go to RUclips and Drachinifel has a video on it.
Recently found your channel and have already watched most the vids. I love the content its great to listen to the stories and info on old ships.
There is two ships/Classes that i Would love you to cover these are:
HIJMS Yūbari
and HIJMS Katori/Katori Class. I think these ships would be interesting to hear about as they are a more Obscure set of Japanese Ships.
As i said Love your content and i hope for more in the future.
So in the end the Oyodo was bad ass!
Hmm the Japanese didn't use it properly. It would have been a perfect carrier fleet escort and scout as Japanese carriers didn't do their own scouting. Combined with its relatively heavy (if not particularly good) AA it would have been perfect. Several of the earlier battles might have gone the other way if 2 of those were in say the fleets at Midway or the Coral Sea practically doubling their scouting potential.
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Love your content man!! You manage to take something already interesting and make it really entertaining, I could binge watch these all day!!
The concept was excellent, but a fast light carrier with the ability to rearm submarines would have been better in this role. Especially if a strike aircraft could have been developed capable of air dropping the same torpedoes as the submarines. A well coordinate attack from a wolf pack and a carrier could have been devastating in early ww2.
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*Would love to see Yahagi (or the Agano class) at some point* ^^
Almost made it. I was rooting for her to survive the war.
Thanks for another great video. It must have been galling for the officers and crew to be changing roles so many times. Cheers Mal
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Hadn't heard of this one. Always cool to learn something new. Thanks for the vid.
The ascendance of the IJN from isolation in 1850 to thoughtful concept delivery by 1940 is truly remarkable.
Q&A: For hard Scifi lovers where is a good place to start learning about ship requirements and design to better write/enjoy space navy ships and get them as realistic as possible...besides the fact they aren't a thing yet?
I know the sea is different from space but history does a close enough job to informing us on the future until we actually get there.
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@@williammagoffin9324 Thanks for this resource it is great however it doesn't go into design methodology used in real military ships. Its mostly focused on the space aspect of spaceships which is really important however I know most of this information or know how to find out this stuff with enough searching (its a great aggregation of information). I have almost no knowledge of military design with regards to ships which are the closest analog to a spaceship. So I am looking for how navel ship designers make the desitions they make. What deployment time is reasonable for ships, how has that changed over time and technology has changed? How many people do you need for a ship to function, how do you figure this out? How do you go about weighing speed vs armor in design?
I am most interested in methodology and tools of the trade so to speak. Mostly I just know I really have no knowledge in the design aspect of ships and I thought this was the best place I ever found to ask.
#QandA This ship would have been an interesting refit post-WW2. What would have been made of her if, having survived, the Brits, American or Japanese rebuilt her leading into the cold war?
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Helicopter cruiser.
@@mr.narwhal9034 Look into the JMSDF DDHs they had before the light carriers of today. They are more or less what this would have ended up as.
Excellent new intro!
Q&A...why were the "super" destroyers of the Kreigsmarine junk??
Tri Cap
Incredibly unstable and unseaworthy. Meaning they couldn’t escort the heavy units.
Germans scrambled to build a modern navy ASAP.
Unlike major powers, which had cruiser and destroyer fleets, germans tried to delegate some cruiser tasks to their destroyers, making them larger accordingly(somewhat similar to the French). Especially thanks to Reichsmarine light cruisers being basically unfit for purpose.
But they have got too many buts.
1st but, combination of poor seaworthiness with extremely unreliable and inefficient machinery(common plague of ww2 german warships) made them not overly capable in their main role: British destroyers half their size performed better escorting tasks.
2nd is armament: 12.7cm-armed units weren't especially strong for their size, but managed to get utterly insufficient ammo stocks(lowest ammo count with the fastest firing gun of this caliber - excellent combo) . 15cm units had a big drop in volume of fire initially(when they had 4 guns), and when they got their turret - all improvements to seaworthiness were wasted, turret was very heavy, making ships very wet.
3rd is, well, german navy itself: unlike ww1, it fought an enemy out of its class. I mean, it's nice and cool when you perform some of your cruiser tasks by destroyers, but someday your destroyers will meet true cruisers(Brits had way more cruisers than germans had those destroyers) , and it will get ugly. So it did.
There are other traditional concerns like lack of dp main armament and so on, but much the same could be said about most contemporary destroyers of that era. They had their bright moments in early years, and initially had some significant success as fast minelayers, but mostly they were just a big, expensive disappointment.
you should do HMAS Australia (II)
loving the new intro man!
I've noticed on several occasions you have made clear your dislike of the Japanese 25mm AA guns. Can you please do a video of why and a comparison to other AA guns of the time?
Seconded!
In Rapid Fire, Anthony Williams writes that the intermediate caliber weapons (including the US Navy's 1.1"/75 caliber gun 28×199mm L/75) were relatively unsuccessful during World War II: the mounts were much heavier and more complex than smaller calibre guns, but the shells lacked the range and hitting power of the larger 37 and 40 millimeter weapons.[12] The Japanese viewed increasing the caliber of autocannons as the number one priority of research and development in the field.[4]. Wikipedia
Seems to have inspired a lot of paintings.
Great vid Drach, I enjoy your amazing content.
Absolutely love your videos. I was wondering if you could do the USS Terror at some point? Thanks.
I can't quite put my finger on it but the ships looks good. It looks like a ship should look, I guess?
I'll probably grab a model of it :) thanks for the video!
I love your videos have you already done a extensive look at the musashi? Her before construction service and demise?
She is covered in the video on the Yamato class, but she doesn't current have her own video.
Excellent review as usual, thank you!
Drachinifel, when will you be doing a video on IJN KIRISHIMA?
The Kongo class are somewhat down the list... unless I transferred them to the Wednesday specials...
Okay. Thanks.
Maybe some support ships like tanker or troop transprt for next movie.
Would love to know more about the musashi
Q&A - Did switching for prewar tripod masts with their spotting suites to radar help the stability of ships? Looking a pictures of prewar US battleships and cruisers to looks like there is a lot weight carried high with a tripod mast while with radar the pictures or these show a mast that appears to be much lighter.
The cage masts among other issues were found to vibrate and that hurt long range spotting and accuracy. That was among other issues around strength and damage from funnel gases.
Oh, Yodo dess!?
Sorry, I had to.
Trickstar Lycoris fuck off weeb
Trickstar Lycoris *sighs* Oyodo des
@@juri8723 Edgy
Trickstar Lycoris not the admiral
Put her in a bunny suit
The Admiral decided on a bunker ashore instead of his quarters on the ship? Not much of a Samurai tradition their?
Pragmatic approach approved!
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The surcouf is a cool ship u shld do a video on it
looks like a pretty good addition as their top tier ship in war thunder !
Can we have source on the picture used ? (the paintings especially).
Email the channel and I'll send you all of them :)
I don't know if you do destroyers. But have you heard of the Leone class? Biggest dd broadside until the Porter class.
Davy Jones: it’s raining men, hallelujah it’s raining men.
She was the very last Flagship of the combined fleet
Additionally, is there any chance of you covering submarines at some point as in specific classes like the Gatos, the development of a specific type of submarine such as the American Fleet Submarine, or important events in submarine history such as the S-28 disaster which I had a distant relative aboard the S-28 when she went down with all hands?
The Gato's are somewhere on the list. Specific events or developments can be added to the list on request. :)
I'd like to suggest the WWI German battlecruiser Derfflinger class ships.
Have you done a video on why the japanese 25mm AA gun was so ineffective?
Not yet
Hey Mate , love your work :)
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is there any chance you will make video about German Aircraft cariers , not only Zeppelin ?
Roberts Markovs there were none...
@@juri8723 i was talking about proje ts and desings . Jade , Europe etc
@Ricsi bacsi would still be interesting :)
Could do, probably a Wednesday Special
Will you do a video on the Imperatrista Mariya-class dreadnoughts?
Eventually
Keep them coming Drac. Cheeky ask - I know it pushes the boundary of WW2 but it was our last one. HMS Vanguard?
It's due relatively soon :)
Cool, thanks mate. Al
5:35 that there is a bad omen
ijn hyuuga guide please
Can you make one of the Takao class?
PLS do a video on the Ise!
Ahh! The glorious eyeglasses wearing NPC that scares the Fuck out of me in fan comics.
is there an improved version of oyodo leaving out the super aa version?...
Q&A Why was the Japanese 25mm AA gun so bad?
What I know is
It had a slow rate of fire and training gear.
It tended to vibrate heavily while firing which effected it's accuracy.
It's range was rather insufficient and it's shells lacked destructive power.
@Ricsi bacsi It's okay. You also made a good point.
This is just the recon light cruiser design in HOI4 IRL
How about something obscure? Like a fleet tug?
Luke, you must go to Dagobah and seek Master Oyodo.
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What if they had the sms bayern in the Royal Navy and change out every single part in the ship
I wish you would expand on why the 25mm was "sub-standard". Not defending it, just curious.
Did so in numerous other videos. Basically: Poor ammo capacity (about 14 -16 rounds I think), poor elevation and rotation characteristics and not being able to maintain rate of fire while in high elevation - like, you know, when firing on an aircraft
Make a video about Ise and Hyuga
Do a guide on the USS New Jersey (BB-16)
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A classic case of when a sound idea collides with a stubbornly stupid tradition. Oyodo was supposed to be a scout cruiser capable of launching float planes but not supposed to fight. Right? So why were the main battery gun turrets mounted up front and the aircraft catapults and hangars at the back? Tradition, that's why. A warship with guns up front is macho but also useless for a ship that is supposed to run away from enemy ships since the forward guns won't be able to fend off attackers during a stern-chase engagement. If only the Japanese designers thought outside the box and placed the guns turrets at the rear of the ship and put the catapults forward of the bridge where the superior speed of the Oyodo could be used to launch float planes carrying heavier loads of fuel or bombs, increasing her effectiveness as a scout cruiser. Missed opportunity.
Did you do something on the Alaska?
2nd try
It's due soon
Q&A: were you invited to Operation Odysseus event organised by Overly Sarcastic Productions? I feel that excluding you would be a HUGE omission, and I wonder if they forgot about you, or you just didn't have the time.
Unfortunately not :(
@@Drachinifel Shame would've loved to see what you could come up with.
How about the already mentioned IJN Ise?
Is there a reason your channel is limited to late 19th-21st century warships? It would be so interesting if you take on the whole history of warships and their evolution.
I'll happily cover older ships, there are a few on the list to do. :)
35 sec intro loooong
I hope you don't mind my asking but what do you think of the work of the RUclipsr "navyreviewer" I know he hasn't put up a video in nearly two years but I'd love to see you guys do a collaboration at some point.
He seems to have had the start of a good channel, a shame he hasn't been active recently.
Dunno if you do submarines but if you do could you do the USS Barb?
Can add it to the extensive list :)
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So, they had some extra Mogami turrets?
Each Mogami class had 5 turrets and there were 4 ships so 20 total manufactured. Original Yamato design only used 4 per ship so only 8 used originally so 12 remaining. Had both ships been built that would have left 8. So maybe be could see a design contest around a single ship using 4 so a pair? Something around 8K tons standard with speed around 34 knots?
#QandA how economical is it actually to salvage a ship just to wreck it?
In most cases it is a navigation hazard. Like the wreck of the Graf Spee was or the ships at Pearl Harbor. It will interesting to see what Norway does with it's newest wrecked warship.
Kongo or bongo.
Poor ship was just relentlessly hunted and pummeled
please do USS Alaska class
Soon (TM)
Yeah but how do she looks like in a bunny suit?
good :)
Almost as good as naked
Why am I imagining this
needs more CV
Make kriegsmarine schiff vid too
Why are there no muzzle breaks on naval guns? #drydockquestion
Already addressed in a previous Drydock video: ruclips.net/video/bBSB5OSrbWU/видео.html
It's muzzle brakes not muzzle breaks
Have you already done USS Alaska and USS Guam?
Not yet, early next year :)
What ASW capabilities?
Oh yodo dess?
Lochs and Bays please....
0:22 What's all that garbage?
Various lightweight items caught in the gun blast shockwave.
Thanks to both of you for asking, and responding, since I found the channel I have been trying not to obsess about this very question. I was telling myself they just left a bunch of trash all over the turret exterior...
I wonder what robot voice is doing now-a-days.
He lives at the end of the videos :)
Dating a Rumba vacuum cleaner.
I don't mean to offend, but are your sources from the Wikipedia sources?
Some.sources are common, others are not, see the video description for the main ones used.
@@Drachinifel Ah okay! I was just wondering because I read up on the ship myself, noticed some similarities. Sorry if I offended you :(
@@novusregnum no worries, the five minute guides are fairly basic due to time constraints, so relatively simple stuff for ships like armament, speed, the basic reasoms they were built etc are usually going to be stated the same all over. :)
But it’s just mental how there is no tear main battery