The Gospel According to Progressive Christianity
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Is progressive Christianity just a group of Christians who are changing their minds on politics and social issues, or is the gospel that is taught by many progressive leaders entirely different from the historic Christian gospel?
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This was so good! Very well explained.
What was so good about it?
@@freshliving4199 👈🏻 Really? You didn’t get the comparison between the Christian Gospel and the False Prophets?
I never read the Bible and I understood the main point and the NEED for the comparison.
@@timetriad6199 You are either a Christian or you are not.
There is nothing more to believe or discuss.
Everything else is simply word salad.
So whats so good comparing word salad with word salad?
Are you a Christian?
Condensed version.
God creates Angels
God creates Man
God lets Angels rebel & go to earth.
God lets Angels rape human woman & create hybrid offspring.
God lets "Nephilim" terrorize earth for who knows how long.
God gets mad & blames the Humans for this wickedness.
God decides to kill 99% of all life on earth.
God is an idiot !!!!!
@@freshliving4199 mmm..salad.... Yum...
I love these shorter 10 min videos - great for quick breaks and people we share them with are more likely to watch them
Amen, sister! The Good News divides sheep (who hear the Good Shepherd’s voice) from goats (who don’t).
Love it Alisa! Please keep preaching the truth
So evident this is in every place once called the church. Our "preacher" is proclaiming a humanistic message every week now trying to love, love, love and force the sheep & goats together. IT WILL NEVER BE!! Jesus said My Sheep Hear My Voice, and not the voice of strangers!!!
You're absolutely right! The true Gospel does indeed divide and what you've said reminds me of Matthew 10:34-36, where we're warned by Jesus Himself not to think that He has come to bring peace on Earth. He came not to bring peace, but a sword. He has come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law and a man's foes will be those of his own household.
Also, in Matthew 25, verses 31 and following, He describes what will happen when He comes back and if you take some time to read and study that passage, you'll see the picture.
My wife sad to me last year when this covid hit "Christ hurry up & return please". Really like how you explain the Word Alisa. When I watched American Gospel here in NZ at a Bible study you & other pastors like you gave such clarity, truth it reiforces my faith in Christ Jesus. Keep doing what you're doing. Blessings to you and your family
Wow. I am a new Christian, and never knew so many found the Gospel repulsive. I knew other religions reject it but never heard that people hated the free gift of salvation in the sense you mentioned. Salvation in Christ is our only hope, how can this be hated so?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and to answer your question, many people hate the true Gospel, because it shows them that they're guilty before a God who is perfectly holy and pure and they don't want to change the way they live.
Also, several times in the Gospels, Jesus Himself makes it clear that if you're truly following Him, you'll be hated by the world and in 1 Corinthians 1:18, the apostle Paul declares that the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but for us who are saved, it is the power of God.
If you don't realize how fallen you are in sin, the idea someone had to die in order to pay satisfaction on your behalf can only be repulsive.
You have to acknowledge the problem before you are willing to accept the only cure.
Well explained! It's good for Christianity's critics to understand that Christ's love for us motivated us to establish hospitals, orphanages, soup kitchens, half-way houses, and the list goes and on, not to our glory but to Him. "Social Justice" has become code for social marxism.
Christianity has been proven wrong and Christians don’t follow Jesus and never were his followers The trinity is a lie
Alisa, I left my church and joined another because of you. I'm much happier. They respect the gospel. Oddly enough, it's the same denomination.
"Christ was treated as we deserve that we may be treated as He deserves."
A book that says self-help misses the mark where Jesus said to deny yourself
That's true. Can you ask Jesus if things in the book would help you?
@@robertdouglas8895 The Bible is the final authority you either believe Christ and be saved or deny it and be damned.
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
@@SteveWV That was written in the book of Timothy but Jesus never said it. He said our Teacher is the Holy Spirit.
@@robertdouglas8895 oh boy let me guess you're one of those who believes that only the things the Christ said in the Gospels are right. I think you're rather confused.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and THEY are THEY which TESTIFY of me.
SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES the New Testament did not exist then.
@@SteveWV I believe waht the Holy Spirit says is true and I believe that is what Jesus said. You think the disciples knew all that Jesus knew? They just automatically knew it all when he died becauset hey didn't know it before that.
You just don't know how much you have helped me, Ms. Alisa. Thank God for your life. ❤️
We at RBC stand and applaud Alisa Childers for the great apologetic work she has done and is doing, God bless you!
Evil billionaires, Democrats & RINOs brainwash us all 365 days a year.
In 10 minutes your kids & you can be immune to it :::::: Teach Others Daily.
Move those 3 words together, add the usual dotCom at the end, & go there. Expect your life to likely hugely change in 10 minutes or less.
Condensed version.
God creates Angels
God creates Man
God lets Angels rebel & go to earth.
God lets Angels rape human woman & create hybrid offspring.
God lets "Nephilim" terrorize earth for who knows how long.
God gets mad & blames the Humans for this wickedness.
God decides to kill 99% of all life on earth.
God is an idiot !!!!!
Beautifully put!!! 😍 Thankyou for sharing your insights!!
Why are so many people deconstructing ? Friends, family , fellow students , pastors ? It still shocks me how people can seem to have found Christ and biblical truth then suddenly decide to throw it all away. It makes me hold unto Christ even tighter. I’ve never seen this before.
The reason so many are deconstructing or leaving the faith is because they were never born again to begin with. They were never converted. They had a said faith, not a real one. They went out from us because they were not of us. They went out that they may be exposed.
Jesus said, depart from Me I NEVER knew you. They were the Rocky soil spoken of in Jesus' parables.
Stand firm, brothers and sisters, in the Truth of God's Word.
Do not compromise or become complacent.
God help us all.
It's funny that someone uses the "Jewish lens" and completely ignores the Old Testament. Jesus did not come to start a new religion is true but he did not come to say all paths lead to God. Jesus is the Jewish messiah who came to redeem the Jewish people and the whole world through his blood. We are grafted into the chosen people of God as we serve the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Funny how when Progressive Christians interpret the gospel they always end up at progressive political positions, it’s almost like there rewriting the word of god the conform to there political views instead of basing there political views on the gospel
@@iambored9060 true
@@thejohn17project15 Yes, but also funny that the Jewish people don't see it as you do.......now what?
@@loretomazzola403 well we should be doing what we are called to do in Romans. Also I would encourage you to check out One for Israel. They are a ministry of Israeli Jews who believe Jesus is messiah and are sharing the gospel with their fellow Jews. A lot of Jews are coming to faith in Jesus as Messiah because of their ministry among others. Not all Jews rejected Christ. At the time of Rome destroying the second temple there were approximately 1 million Jewish believers.
11 “In that case, I say, isn’t it that they have stumbled with the result that they have permanently fallen away?” Heaven forbid! Quite the contrary, it is by means of their stumbling that the deliverance has come to the Gentiles, in order to provoke them to jealousy. 12 Moreover, if their stumbling is bringing riches to the world - that is, if Isra’el’s being placed temporarily in a condition less favored than that of the Gentiles is bringing riches to the latter - how much greater riches will Isra’el in its fullness bring them! 13 However, to those of you who are Gentiles I say this: since I myself am an emissary sent to the Gentiles, I make known the importance of my work 14 in the hope that somehow I may provoke some of my own people to jealousy and save some of them! 15 For if their casting Yeshua aside means reconciliation for the world, what will their accepting him mean? It will be life from the dead!
Romans (Rom) 11:11-15
@@thejohn17project15 That's a lot of words! :)
I listen to this a day after preaching an identical message in the UK. Feels like a confirmation of what I preached. It seems to me that the church in the west particularly needs to hear the 'old fashioned' and unpopular message of the cross. Keep up the good work Alisa.
Bless you.
Christ did die a horrific death, but He conquered the grave and defeated death. It was GOOD NEWS
He died a horrific death so we wouldn't have to die a far more horrific eternal death.
Preach the Word Ms.Alisa Childers you explained it extraordinary and truthful.
Love what you do Alisa. You have helped me so much following a period of doubt and questions. God bless 🙏
Another good message from Alisa. May God continue to bless her and bless others through her!
Amen. Thank you for all you do and share, Alisa.
Hi Alisa, I just wanted to say that my wife and I recently found your channel and have been completely blessed by the content you are putting out with your podcast episodes. You have really encouraged us to dive into the world of apologetics with the intent of defending our faith especially in the times we are facing today. Thank God for your ministry and I pray that He continues to use you and your featured guests to share biblical truth and wisdom. Perhaps one of these days we'll see you at a conference. God bless!
"Not peace, but a sword". The blood may not be beautiful, but without the shedding of blood, there is NO remission of sin. Good preaching my sister. I have been very blessed since finding your channel. Carry on.
I heard a PC Pastor in Costa Mesa California say Christ died for his message of peace. I don't recall reading that. Biblical Christianity teaches we are justified through faith by Christ's atonement for our sins on the cross.
Chills, thank you for sharing! What can wash away my sin, nothing but the blood of Jesus! Hallelujah!✝️❤️❤️❤️
Amen my sister. May God bless your ministry.
This was great! I’m so very thankful there are people like you who know the true gospel and aren’t afraid to share it. I pray that the Lord continues to bless you with knowledge, wisdom and courage to speak His truth!
So wonderfully explained! To God be all the glory! Thank you for what you're doing dear sister!
Very much in truth and love. Thank you. Blessings to you.
Hola Alisa ❣️ Blessings 2 U & your Familia! I'm so grateful 2 our creator 4 the work U do ✝️ Your content is Awesome & always on point! I value/trust ur interpretation of the Word. I've learned so much & share w/friends & family. Your teaching style is easy for me to understand. Always looking forward 2 ur videos & guests. Please continue ur ministry ❣️
Great message ! Only by the Grace of God, through his great Love for us.
Even as you share, the Grace & Beauty of God is all over you, which is an offense to many.
Very glad you're out there !
Wow, Alisa, that was so well explained and what Good News we have received!
It is very helpful to reiterate the core ideas in the gospel. So many are diluting the full meaning of these ideas. Thank you for taking time to articulate these things, elaborate on what they mean and point to Jesus
So many progressive churches say social justice is the gospel..I don't get how that's the gospel
God bless you. Great discussion.
Excellent. Thank you!
Yes!Amen! Loving your book, I’m about half way through it!
Yeah, the words Christian and SELF HELP should never be used together considering we're suppose to give up our rights to ourselves and trust JESUS with our lives. JESUS also told His followers that because of Him people would be offended. By the way I read your book and recommend it highly. Keep defending the faith, the world needs to hear the true "gospel" of the real JESUS and not the hipster Jesus that the world is trying to turn him into. Peace and Blessing to all that may read this.
The only help we need is a proper copy of the Bible, and someone to properly explain it.
It's so simple most people can't comprehend it.
@@fnjesusfreak Amen
Amen! Love what you said about the world trying to turn Jesus into a hipster
Read also,” Twisted Scripture “. Andrew Farley!
@@DS-uo5ie thanks will try to find it
Great summary of the true gospel!
It’s the cross vs the tower of Babel. We either understand and confess that we’re hopelessly lost on our own and come to God on HIS terms, or we refuse to abdicate the throne, spit on God’s grace and say “we’re cool, we can handle this.” Humility vs pride. It’s an ancient story and there’s nothing progressive about it, unless you mean it like: “your cancer is progressing”.
Yep, and taking us back to the lie that has not yet died in many men’s hearts, “Ye shall be as gods.”
Thank you, appreciate your channel.
Well done and well put.
This was awesome and on point! 🙏
Wisely and succinctly expressed. Thank you.
Evil billionaires, Democrats & RINOs brainwash us all 365 days a year.
In 10 minutes your kids & you can be immune to it :::::: Teach Others Daily.
Move those 3 words together, add the usual dotCom at the end, & go there. Expect your life to likely hugely change in 10 minutes or less.
Well and beautifully explained!!! Blessyou!!!
Hi dear Alisa, just had to say I was riveted to 3 parts you spoke at RBC. Phenomenal talks. Loved the lil twist lol 😆💕
What's RBC?
@@jakkistaatmcdonald4555 hi, sorry to abbreviate Jakki.. its channel ...
@REEDEMER BIBLE CHURCH , such amazing teachings, solid truth. Love their pastors. Alisa did hours of talk. Jon the pastor did a life changing sermon on suffering. It changed my Soul! #truth x
Sermon about when God doesn't heal is called When Revival doesn't happen. Best 45 mins of my life. Its on RBC Revival series, last episode. It changed my view on God Jakki. It blew my away x
Well said. Thank you.
Keep up the God work! Bless you for the Truth you share, Pastor Tim
Keep preaching!
Excellent!
Beautiful Gospel Clarification.
Beautifully said!!
Brilliantly spoken. Amen.
So true and excellently presented!
Thank you for posting this very needful presentation and when I heard you mention the way those people responded negatively to what you had to say, one particular passage that came to me was 2 Timothy 4:3-4, where we're warned by the apostle Paul that the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts they'll raise up for themselves teachers, having itching ears and they will turn their ears away from the Truth and will turn to fables.
Also, the unfortunate reality is that as the day of Jesus's return and the end of history draws nearer, we'll be seeing more and more of this trend.
Well said!
Thank you for sharing>>>
Just found your channel! Love it. Keep speaking the only real truth- God's truth!
Wow I love this, very well done! Explained very well.
I love your messages
Alisa, you are right about the difference in how the Gospel message is received by different people !!!!!!
Amen. Beautiful aroma, the fragrance of life. Thank You, Jesus 🙌🏻🙌🏻🥰🥰✝️
I love that you are teaching Christian's what is going on out there. THANK YOU ALISA! WE NEED TO BE READY and study to show thyself approved!!! 1 John 2:18-19 AMP Children, it is the last hour [the end of this age]; and just as you heard that the antichrist is coming [the one who will oppose Christ and attempt to replace Him], even now many antichrists (false teachers) have appeared, which confirms our belief that it is the last hour. They went out from us [seeming at first to be Christians], but they were not of us [because they were not truly born again and spiritually transformed]; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but [teaching false doctrine], so that it would be clearly shown that none of them are of us.
Boom! Well spoken sister. God bless you.
Excellent teaching
God bless you
I'm so greatful for you
AMEN AND AMEN
Sooooo amazing how you described what following the Lord is all about. Amazing !! You deff have a new follower ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Brilliant, concise, and Biblical. Well done.
Nothing but truth sister
Thanks for your true message.
AMEN !!!!!
Alisa you are a GRACEFUL FIREBALL for the Kingdom. Also THANK YOU for quoting Matthew 10:34 (Jesus saying Himself that He did not come to bring peace but a sword). I once shared this with another Christian and they claimed that was not in the Bible and that the sword was done away with in the Old Testament (hmmm). It is also a powerful verse to share when people try to paint Jesus as this ecumenical hippie that seems to be more and more of the norm in our culture. It’s so sad how deceived people are becoming. But thank you for speaking the Truth here on RUclips. Love these videos.
I'm w/ McLaren. Remember when Jesus said, "Blessed are the Windmill makers for they shall be carbon neutral"? Or when He told the crowd, "Let he who is without sin, get some from others so there can be equity"?
AMEN!!🙏🏾
I cannot say it any better thank you sister in Christ
Awesome video. This would make a great starter video for seekers tempted to stray the way of “progressive” Christianity.
Just found you
Wow
Great person
Thank you
Re McLaren, sounds like liberation theology. What do you know, his Wikipedia page says he does not believe homosexual conduct is a sin.
When you twist the Gospel to an earthly type of "liberation", you eventually turn against the sound moral teachings of the church, which themselves are "oppressive."
WELL said !!!
For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12 NASB1995
Good stuff
Amen !!!
praise the Lord and God bless you
Amen!
We really have only two options.
One, I save myself by adding my good works to Jesus Christ's one-time offering of Himself, to attempt to appease God. This is obvious in Roman Catholicism, and somewhat less obvious in most of so-called Protestantism.
Two, I humble myself to accept Christ Jesus' free gift, knowing anything I may attempt to add is a slap to His face.
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us... Tit 3:5
Keep shining, tootsie!
I just realised the BibleProject fits the progressive gospel presentation view, and that I had merely been reading the true Gospel into their videos, re-interpreting their statements as Biblical.
Thinking back, I can't think of a single moment where they ever actually talk in their videos about how Christ's death was for the Atonement of Sin, in taking on himself the Wrath of God for them.
All I've heard from them is how the Jesus movement presents a new kingdom of healing, and change. Much like a political movement meant for today and the here-and-now.
Oops. Thanks.
"Without the shedding of blood there can be NO forgiveness of sin." This is why Abel's sacrifice was accepted and Cain's was rejected. Abel offered a lamb ( pointing to Christ.). Cain offered produce from his fields ( pointing to his own works.) And was rejected by God.
We were told in the Bible that we are not supposed to eat or drink blood because in the blood there is life. Substitute the word “blood” of Jesus for the “life” of Jesus. This cleared up this issue for me.
Amen amen very true amen
You are amazing. Great heart! I would love to hear your perspective on Rightly Dividing as taught by many pastors, such as Justin Johnson at Grace Ambassadors. Check our one of his Chart Lessons on Rightly Dividing. For me, it solved some perceived conflicts in Scripture, such as the different views of James and Paul with works. He honors the Word of God in that we approach scripture by asking the question, who is speaking, to whom are they speaking and what is the context. Note the difference between what the Disciples taught and what Paul said. Paul delivered a new gospel from Christ. Thank you.
Common sense reveals that even Progressives don't pick up their favourite author and redefine the point being made; so, why are they doing this with The Bible? Such a double standard illustrates a lack of self-awareness and delusion. In light of Scripture, that is the only explanation I have.
It doesn't just come down to how you interpret a word or phrase. It comes down to whether someone is rooted in life, whether their spirits are spiritually alive - that fact will affect their take on everything! Hence Gunger, or whoever, is in no place to comment AT ALL compared with how God has set things to be, or by extension, anyone so arguing in accordence with how God has set them out to be. We should never, therefore, feel compelled to accommodate the thinking of the spiritually dead. Their arguments are spurious.
I'm having so much fun going through your channel. I'd add that you might want to explain more fully the original meaning of the word "gospel." It actually had a political function in the Roman Empire. It was not originally a Christian idea. It was very much a political term.
It's disturbing to me that some people claiming to be Christians believe that they can basically override sin and do what only God is able to in making this fallen world a utopia.
What was the book?
I’m wondering this too
The Six Line Grecko ROMAN Narrative? McClarin doesn't understand either ancient Jewish culture or ancient Roman culture. The first premise of the Gospel (that God created the world good) goes against the hellenistic philosophies of the Romans in the first century. They believed that this physical world was bad, evil, and gross, and that the spiritual world was good and clean. This is why so many people had a problem with Jesus being fully God and fully man. How could God take on flesh? For flesh is gross. This is why Marcion of Sinope said that the Jewish God was an evil god who created the world, but Jesus was from the good god to save the evil world his opponent had created. This is why the Gnostics said that Judas was freeing Jesus from his earthly body by betraying him. This is why Arians said that Jesus was elevated to godhood (not God incarnate). The Jewish mindset was that God created the world good, and it contradicted the hellenistic worldview of the Romans.
Of Jewish culture, yes, modern Jews believe that our purpose is to create the best society we can, but that was not ancient Judaism. If anything, it is the result of Talmudic Judaism that stimmed from the Pharisees after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. as a way to figure out how to practice Judaism without the Temple, -which was necessary for sacrifice and worship.
Yes, Micah does say to "seek justice", yes the last of the Noahide Laws is to build court houses for justice, and yes, Isaiah does warn of Israel's neglect of the widow and orphan, but these are not social justice. The idea of ancient Judaism was not socialism, -it was that people should deal honestly with one another, not forming factions to war against each other. It was people rejecting the social pressure in unjust ways. Exodus 23 gives this really well: "Do not spread false reports. Do not help a guilty person by being a malicious witness. Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong. When you give testimony in lawsuit, do not pervert justice by siding with the crowd" (1-2). Liberals may have a problem with verse 3, "Do not show favoritism to a poor person in a lawsuit", and conservatives might have a problem with verse 6, "Do not deny justice to your poor person in their lawsuit." You might broaden this out: "Don't show favoritism to the black man or the white man." "Don't show favoritism to the Republican or to the Democrat." Justice does matter very much to God, but God's justice is different from social justice. God's justice is genuine and unbiased.
But the main theme of ancient Judaism was that God is holy and man is sinful. Nevertheless, God calls us into relationship with Him. He is the Covenant Making God, who calls us out of our sin and to be His people. And when we answer the call of God, humble ourselves, repent of our sin, and worship and honor Him, then He will save us and forgive us of our sins, as described by David in Psalm 51. But if we harden our hearts, indulge in our sin, and seek to honor ourselves, then He will give us over to our sins for wrath to build up upon ourselves, as described in Romans 1.
Here is a quote from a fourth century Church Father.
Now we are to examine another fact and dogma, neglected by most people, but in my judgment well worth enquiring into. To Whom was that Blood offered that was shed for us, and why was It shed? I mean the precious and famous Blood of our God and Highpriest and Sacrifice. We were detained in bondage by the Evil One, sold under sin, and receiving pleasure in exchange for wickedness. Now, since a ransom belongs only to him who holds in bondage, I ask to whom was this offered, and for what cause? If to the Evil One, fie upon the outrage! If the robber receives ransom, not only from God, but a ransom which consists of God Himself, and has such an illustrious payment for his tyranny, a payment for whose sake it would have been right for him to have left us alone altogether. But if to the Father, I ask first, how? For it was not by Him that we were being oppressed; and next, On what principle did the Blood of His Only begotten Son delight the Father, Who would not receive even Isaac, when he was being offered by his father, but changed the sacrifice, putting a ram in the place of the human victim? [Genesis 22:10-13] Is it not evident that the Father accepts Him, but neither asked for Him nor demanded Him; but on account of the Incarnation, and because Humanity must be sanctified by the Humanity of God, that He might deliver us Himself, and overcome the tyrant, and draw us to Himself by the mediation of His Son, Who also arranged this to the honour of the Father, Whom it is manifest that He obeys in all things? So much we have said of Christ; the greater part of what we might say shall be reverenced with silence. But that brazen serpent was hung up as a remedy for the biting serpents [Numbers 21:9], not as a type of Him that suffered for us, but as a contrast; and it saved those that looked upon it, not because they believed it to live, but because it was killed, and killed with it the powers that were subject to it, being destroyed as it deserved. And what is the fitting epitaph for it from us? “O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?” [Hosea 13:14; I Corinthians 15:55] Thou art overthrown by the Cross; thou art slain by Him who is the Giver of life; thou art without breath, dead, without motion, even though thou keepest the form of a serpent lifted up on high on a pole. (Oration XLV, by St. Gregory the Theologian, 330-391 A.D., vol. 7, p. 431, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Second Series, edited by Philip Schaff, D.D., LL.D., and Henry Wace, D.D., Hendrickson Publishers, Inc., P.O. Box 3473, Peabody, Massachusetts, ISBN: 1-56563-123-4)
Revelation 7:17
For the Lamb at the center of the throne
will be their shepherd;
‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’
‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’
We are born again after we CRY TEARS OF LIVING WATER .
John the Baptist was recognises the voice of one CRYING in the desert.
Romans 8:15
For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons and daughters by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!”