I remember being mocked on the HardOCP forums in 2008 for buying a wide gamut 24" lcd for $700, because according to them: _"Oled Monitors are just around the corner!"_ 😂
(Maybe you could make that comment sticky, Vincent) To all Ep950 owners: LG calibration studio now supports HDR! As well as a more precise mode for calibration. There also is a new firmware for the display which can be installed using the "LG on screen control software" Last but not least I'd like to mention how to enable the 24fps/48hz mode. I've had a hard time finding that out so maybe this info is useful to some people: keep the joystick pulled towards you for about 10 seconds. You will be prompted with a message stating that you have now enabled that option. It can then be found in the general settings. Happy new year to all of you!
The 32" 4K market is so frustrating if you want good HDR... only monitors that are $3,000-$4,000 or more do a praiseworthy job it seems, and they're generally marketed for content creation. Most everything else ends up around the $1,000 mark or less. At that range it's mostly IPS, sometimes a VA, definitely no OLEDs and all with HDR400 or HDR600 which is edge lit at best. I guess I'm one of the few who wants a nice 32" 4K for content _consumption_. The general message if you're looking to spend in the $1,500 range seems to be go get a 48" CX. But even if that thing would fit on my desk how can it be useful when sitting 3 feet away? And once you're further than that, is it really a "desktop" anymore? Not so much imo. Well, rant over = P
The key to using a 55" & larger TV as PC Monitor is treating it as a 4x27" monitor combo All-in-One. Have a proper large desktop with good depth and it's a no issue any more. You don't use the whole screen area for web browsing or reading etc, only for movies & games do you go full screen. For browsing treat it as 4 monitors and have smaller windows on-screen. After a while you might consider 55" being to small and look for 65/70+ sizes. But then 8K would be more in the ballpark of necessary rather than 4k @ 55".
well, that's just how high end audio video market are. The cost to produce these OLED monitor is still not LED level. Maybe in 5 years we will see more affordable OLED monitors.
God, I relate to this so hard. Several months ago, I was looking for a new computer monitor that was 4K and had good HDR because I wanted to use it to watch 4K Blu-rays while at my computer desk. But at the time, there was basically nothing that met my needs for a price I could afford. I ended up rearranging my room and computer set-up and saving up several weeks of paychecks from a part-time job to buy the 48-inch LG CX. How weird that a large TV ended up being more affordable than a medium-sized computer monitor with comparable specs. And 48 inches is about as big a screen as I can fit into my tiny living space, too. To be fair, the CX is a fantastic TV, and I'd say it was worth the money I spent on it. But damn, did I try to find a smaller screen.
Keep it up with your great reviews! It is nice to see someone doing serious technical analyses of displays, with proper measurements and objectively comparing products. Too many RUclips channels doing “reviews” who don’t get almost any of the specs correct nor know the basics of how to do a professional review.
Thanks for the review. I was hesitant to spend on this monitor until I saw your review, and I will say -- for creators, this is the first truly spectacular unit in terms of color and picture quality since wide LED IPS broke the 27" size barrier! I don't regret being an early adopter. 3 things to note though: 1. I cannot get an Calibrite/i1 Display Pro to calibrate (in SDR) correctly due to an issue with reading pure reds. It's being investigated by Calibrite, then handed over to X-rite as OEM manufacturer. SpyderX works ok. I don't have any fancier spec to try. 2. The whitepoint at D65 seems a bit off compared to my various other monitors - a bit on the yellow side. I ended up targeting Judd, which I hear was what Sony did for their RGB OLED. Works much better. 3. LG support is non-existent. No one responded to my support Q re LG Calibration Studio and the Display Pro for weeks before I got a courtesy msg saying they don't know the product and are trying to find someone who does. At this price point, targeting a pro market, I find this very much wanting.
I found with my LG WOLED, it was necessary to use a spectro for an accurate whitepoint calibration. I wasted so much time experimenting with alternative WP's, alternate observers and even perceptual matching. Luckily I found a good deal for i1Pro2 on eBay and got one. After profiling my meter, the difference was instantly noticeable! Now I use D65 WP and CIE1931 (like you're supposed to) and everything looks as it should. No way I could've done that without the spectro and be happy with the result.
@@lordpersius0322 Don't be ridiculous ofcourse there aren't - the "outside the US release" is just technical lingo for stuff getting dumped from the factory directly into the interdimensional void
Thanks for the review. I’ve recently purchased the Sony PVM-X1800 for use on set and some HDR grading. I am interested in how it compares to this model. It’s HDR 1000 nits under $10K US.
I don't think you can compare them. The LG is more a high end consumer product, and not a high end grading product. You pay a steep price for the oled panel. I actually never heard of your model, but just looking on the specs, it's just in another ball game, with BNG SDI input etc.
@@iopqu ruclips.net/video/5UVlUsUc0oM/видео.html and this is just one of the videos i have for this monitor. This one died within a year. Replacement is the exact same.
Hello Vincent! Thank you very much for your in depth and professional video reviews! Love the quality and subtle humor that goes into them! Here is my question and I hope you can help me (a bit at least). I am an aspiring colorist, have been working in a little post house for a couple of years now and want to go full freelance now. I have been working on a SWIT BM-U243 so far. (Not well known brand yet but very decent 10bit IPS displays for SDR grading) I am at the point of where I have to buy my own reference monitor now but can't spend a fortune. I have only done SDR grading so far but that is partly due to the limits I have hardware-wise and I'd like to at least be able to venture into HDR grading in the future a bit. My two contestants therefore are this LG OLED and the Asus Pro Art (either in 27" or in 32") I am having a really hard time chosing one though. Of course I'd love the extra vibrance and spice an OLED would give me and I am sure it would greatly incrase the fun when wokring on it but I am a bit afraid when it comes to longevity, accuracy over time and screen burn. I also think the lack of HDR standards supported with the LG is a big downside. Can you give me any recommendation on which of the two monitors is more suited for professional, everyday color work in mostly SDR (at least for the time) and with the most potential for HDR grading in the future? Would really love to hear your thoughts on this! All the best from Germany!
Hi Vincent! I bought this monitor after this positive review of yours and for the most part I really love it! What I really do not like is the fact that LG calibration studio seems to be really basic and I am having a hard time trusting its results. Also the fact that there is no HDR calibration available sucks. Do you have any infos about when LG is going to implement that in their software? As far as I understand it, the only option right now to hardware calibrate this monitor for HDR is a 2000 Dollar license of Calman Studio? This seems no right given the price of the monitor itself. I also wonder what the new (came with the latest firmware which took forever to flash) black offset function in SDR modes is for. Would love the hear back from you since I'd love incorporating some HDR grading in my workflow but can't do so until I find a feasable option for calibrating HDR. All the best from Germany, cheers!
@@marcfrick415 Hi Marc, sorry fuer die spaete Antwort, hab grade erst deine Frage gesehen. Es gab mittlerweile ein update fuer die LG eigene Software mit der sich jetzt zumindest auch die HDR Bildmodi kalibrieren lassen. Es gibt wohl einige hacks um mit einem guenstigen iOne Pro eine nahezu perfekte kalibrierung mit DisplayCal (freeware) zu erreichen, das ist allerdings ziemlich frickelig und mir auf Dauer zu aufwendig. Zudem moechte ich auf jeden Fall Hardware seitig kalibrieren. Bin deshalb bis jetzt bei der LG Software geblieben, das ist so weit auch ganz in Ordnung, man kriegt nur nen minimalen Farbstich in neutral grauen Flaechen. Liegt scheinbar daran, dass die Colorimeter eigentlich eine Profilierung fuer OLED brauchen weil die spektrale Distribution da ein bisschen anders ausfaellt als bei LCD, bzw. LED und man in der LG Software aber stand jetzt keine custom Profile laden kann. Aber ich komm trotzdem gut so zurecht und wenn man das mit dem Farbstich weiss, kann man ja da entsprechend sensibel agieren. Liebe Gruesse
I’ve been trying to get the 27” version, the 27EP950 for over a month now, availability is zero worldwide. Extremely frustrating. I want an OLED monitor but I’m not having a 48” or even 42” panel 20 inches from my face.
@@janikdk84 That listing has been there for around 2 months now. This monitor will probably be sold out and not seen again for several months, like everything else.
@@XxMsrSzprzxX i do not agree. LG has announced these monitors to become available this summer. Maybe you should try with a bit of patience instead of pessimism ;)
@@janikdk84 There's a worldwide monitor supply chain issue dude, display ICs are in extremely short supply. That's reality not pessimism. Manufacturers of all electronics are saying things to make people happy. Stores are stocking 1-3 units of LG's newest 27GP950 at a time, instead of dozens. I just saw a listing sell out within half an hour with my own eyes as I was entering my card information. Since when do PC monitors sell out in minutes?
Whoa, Vincent! The blooming reflection you mention is your eyes. I just did a bunch of tests on hard edge contrast like a thick white line on black background and it blooms as you mention. But, if you put a credit card or something just over the line to hide one side and see black on the other, the bloom goes away. It's clouding (diffusion) in your eyes' lenses. I also printed out a white line on ink black background on my pro Epson printer and I see the same blooming there.
For that price tag I expect an aluminium body and very solid aluminium stand. And a decently designed standd for that matter. But I do like that OLED comes down in sizes. How many of your viewers watch your videos on HDR displays? I thought most people used computers to watch RUclips but I might be wrong?
I never watch RUclips on a monitor. Why would I, when I have an expensive TV, for the same purpose, and in much better quality?! About the looks: If you take a look at pro grade monitors from various vendors, like Sony, Eizo etc., they look absolutely horrible. They look like cheap, no name brands, with a lot of dials and/or buttons. They look nothing like high end. But they cost $20-40.000. And that look goes the same for any monitor, used in TV Studios, film grading room etc. It's really only the Apple displays, that are shiny, and it's really a fail, from a grading or monitoring perspective. You absolutely don't want a shiny edge around your monitor, when you sit and color grade in almost total darkness, at 100 nits brightness setting for SDR grading, and 1000+ nits, for HDR. It's just one of many reasons, no professional company would ever use the Apple monitors for these kinds of workflow.
Make sure when using your OLED as a monitor you make the task bar auto hide, you use your web browser in full screen mode and get an extension for your chromium browser called scroll bars which allows you to hide them when browsing. In games, if you have the option make sure to hide your hud. Also it helps to set windows to high contrast dark mode. Set a screen saver to run after 30 seconds and if you must have a desktop background have it as a slide show or a moving one. As I've stated, Ive used my b7 for years as a monitor.
@@FinnJaeger1337 Hi Finn! Mich würde interessieren was dein Einsatzgebiet für diesen Monitor ist und wie deine ersten Erfahrungen damit bis jetzt sind. Liebe Grüße und frohes Neues!
@@MrJemabaris grading / finishing von werbefilmen, bin happy soweit, komme nur noch nicht 100% klar mit der kalibrierung, bzw ich brauxh ne bessere probe , super schwer den ordentlich einzumessen und extrem grün im default modus
Thank you very much for this in depth review of the LG. I am a content creator mainly using Davinci Resolve for video editing. I want to color grade in HDR and I like this monitor but I would like your opinion when you compare it to the Dell UP3221Q
Finally something exciting to come out after years of waiting. Still using my 10 year old Quato 240ex LED display (RGB LED backlight). 100% Adobe RGB coverage. For my photography purposes it's still great but, wish I could get zero video judder and HDR. It's to bad this LG doesn't have the same level of hardware calibration. Only EIZO seems to be on the same level but they are expensive and none cover 100% Adobe RGB. I have to wait longer... I hope my monitor doesn't die any time soon! 🤞
The lack of Dolby Vision support is unfortunate. But I was primarily considering this monitor as an SDR mastering only monitor anyway. With that said, I’m really debating just having two Dell UP3221Q monitors. If you manage to get your hands on one, I’d love to see what you think of it.
It's true that it's a professional monitor, but if it had supported 120Hz, VRR, and had lower input lag (or a gaming mode with such), I think you'd find quite a few gamers who would pay $4K for the world's first practical OLED gaming monitor. As far as I can tell, these are all controller and/or firmware features and would not have significantly changed the BOM of the display.
@@2-da3333 it’s missing several important features for a modern console gaming monitor. 120Hz and VRR are both important for the current client consoles, and input lag is an unknown quantity. Such users will be much better served by the much (MUCH) cheaper 42” LG C2. And PC gamers will be better served by the much cheaper 34” QD-OLED gaming monitors.
It really can't be both a professional grading monitor, and a gaming monitor. To use it for grading, you need a box, like a Blackmagic DeckLink, to connect to the monitor. You could of course just change input to the GPU, every time you wanna game. But didn't Asus or LG already make an Oled gaming monitor at under $3000?
Can you review the Hisense U9DG 4K TV next? I know it's dual cell and you talked about the downside of the power consumption, but when I looked up the Hisense Dual Cell Series SX and compared the U9DG some specifications and build quality, they are different. I am curious if Hisense fixed any issues with the Series SX. Love your reviews. I hope you get your hands on the U9DG dual cell tv. The U8G is better than the Samsung QLEDs with deep blacks, colours, and brightness. Even giving LG OLEDs a run for their money by competing with the deep black picture quality. So I really am curious about the U9DG now. Thanks.
Just hope they establish a 31.5" line of various grades. Hopefully one day can buy an 31.5" OLED monitor for $1k even. 1440p 144hz, or 4k 60hz. Sick and godd@mn tired of the $500 ------GAP-----$1.5k+ that exists between normal aspect plain LCD monitors, and advanced backlighting monitors. Save a few laughable 6 zone bloomfest FALDs for $1.2k or whatnot.
Agreed. I spend enough time staring at my monitors that I could justify something in maybe the $1.5-2k range as a "prosumer" purchase, painful as that would be on my wallet. Once it goes in to $3k-4k though... I'm not using my monitors to generate money so it just doesn't make sense. The advice is mostly go get a 48" or 55" CX but that's just not gonna work for me. Even if it fit on my desk, it'd be comical to sit 2-3ft from such a display, and the DPI is the same or worse than 24" 1080p levels. No thanks. The first company that fills the gap in 32" 4K with an offering that has a decent feature set and costs around $1.5K could do pretty well in the market imo. But it seems we're in the minority because it feels like there's not much coming any time soon.
Hey, I enjoy the content you create explaining current display technology. But I haven't seen any video of yours reviewing the M1 iPad pro mini-led display review. do you think you can do that for us? thanks.
Fantastic panel, hopefully they find a way to improve the near-black performance, maybe splitting the subpixels to disable part of it completely when close to black? Hopefully similar panels will be available at high refresh rates soon.
Pretty sure the way to “fix” near black performance is to stop the pixels switching off ever. This is the only way to avoid the difference between the lowest and next lowest level of luminance literally being infinite. If it raises the level of the black floor a small amount this is effectively negated by raising the room ambience above absolute black.
Is there a reason that your videos colors look off sometimes? Especially the reds and greens? Only notice it, in certain HDR videos. Looks exactly the same on my CX, and iPhone 11 Pro Max. For example, when you show the spectral power distribution chart...you can see what I’m talking about there... It’s like you’re grading in BT2020, instead of DCI P3. Tho I’m not really the one to be talking about this lol. Just something I’ve noticed. Btw...this monitor looks 🔥 not to mention, should destroy a WRGB, in terms of color/color volume. Man WRGB is disappointing as hell, in terms of color volume, at higher luminance levels/shades. I just honestly don’t think there’s any beating QLEDs color/color volume/color separation. I can tell you, I miss that color and color volume probably more than the black levels, and contrast of OLED. There’s just something missing entirely, in a lot of my HDR/DV content, that even a “budget TCL r625” could achieve....but the CX just can’t.
Yes! I was waiting for this review. We may be ordering this monitor in a couple weeks. Hopefully this will be my “hero” monitor for years until development of Quantum dot OLED comes out. Just imagine the near human realm of color gamut of Quantum Dot and the self emissive properties of OLED.
Question? How does it would it fare with menu bars from a computer program? Those are static images unmoving for periods of 10 minutes to maybe an hour. I wouldn’t want to cry 😢 after my first week of use.
@Archie Pina: We've been using the monitor with taskbars for 100 hours, and haven't seen any ill effects. But realistically, most colourists using this should be running it beside another GUI monitor.
@@hdtvtest Thanks for the informative response. Of course, we will be mating this monitor with 2 x 16” monitors as the GUI “palettes” underneath this one for a triple monitor set up. Found that 3 x 24/27” monitors oriented horizontally meant a lot of chair swiveling/neck turning.
TFT Central in their review of the EP950 recorded a very different input lag than you did, only 1.29ms but they do use a different measurement system, not that it matters much for the target market.
You didn't discuss near-black uniformity. I only noticed a few seconds of small 3-4% gray slide shown at the very end. It looked pretty poor with the usual vertical banding and slight vignetting. Hard to tell with youtube compression so how would you rate the near-black uniformity compared to the best WRGB OLEDs?
I don't think anyone has any clue the sorts of sales that we'd see once 42" and smaller sized OLED TVs come out. I mainly want mine for gaming, but 42" is the largest screen size i can deal with. As soon as one comes out I'm buying one, whatever brand
thank you for this review i have 2 questions plz, first : can you do a comparison btw ASUS ProArt Display OLED PA32DC 31.5" 4K and ASUS ProArt Display OLED PA27DCE-K 26.9" 4K for colorist works? secondly: can i buy this monitor or oled tv from B and H (USA -120V) knowing i will used in my country (middle east 220V 50 hz) ? thanks a lot
how is the 27" compared with this for gamming ? is this worth for a gamming monitor not only general internet use ???? what would be then the best nn oled monitor for everything ??? quality+gamming..... THX! (spammed a little bit...)
Also, why does this monitor require some tumblers to switch to a flicker-less rendition of 24 FPS films in 60 Hz mode? Does not it have FreeSync or something to change the frequency on the fly, so even in 60 Hz mode it will just slow down to 2 * 24 = 48 FPS or speed up to 2 * 24 = 72 FPS?
Does this have any strobing or BFI-like options? The X300 had a scan driving feature to greatly improve sample-and-hold blur, with an anti-flicker option to remove it if needed.
Another wonderful information display with a suboptimal PSU. Only knowing every detail in east asia where the PMMA is cast, the oleds, ltps, are researched and produced, calibrated, etc. would one truly be able to fully realize what such reference level information display is capable of. There is alway "shareholder theory" in mass manufacturing meaning some part is not the best for monetary reasons usually it is the PSU not the panel of course. 465 nm, 525 nm and 625 nm are considered ideal primaries and the spectral radiance diagram given here appears very close to that ideal.
Hi! Any chance of you reviewing the 2022 version which is supposed to come with hardware calibrator too? And see how well it works with Apple silicon macs? The new model number (for the 27") is: lg-27bp95e-b Also has there not come any competitors using the same JOLED panels?
Well plenty wit on show for this video. It's seems like a fantastic display - but perhaps serious gamers would be a little disappointed with the input lag response considering the price and being a dedicated monitor.
Depends on the gamer 60fps is fine for causel gamers unless you a 440fps player seriously just buy a 1080p high refresh monitor if you realh want speed and speed like clarkson said speed is good speed is better lol
Grading monitors usually have a very slow response time. It's just the way they are. And as Juan wrote, it's not a gaming monitor. A monitor like this, would in a professional environment not even be connected to the GPU, so you couldn't even game on it, unless you changed the output port, every time you'd change from professional work, to gaming.
Yeah, take a look at some OS the Asus ProArt monitors, like the ASUS ProArt PA32UCR-K, ASUS ProArt PA32UCG-K & ASUS PA27UCX-K. They range from $1500 to $2200.they are all +1000 nits monitors. If 600 nits is enough for you, there are ProArt monitors at almost half those prices. Like the ASUS ProArt PA328CGV.
It's understandable that some specialty requires high color accuracy. But some specialty work long hours staring at screen for coding, statistical analysis or writing and eye become tired easily. It will be great to if you can review monitor are eye friendly for office work. Thanks.
This channel is more about high-end stuff and new technology, than consumer products. I highly recommend Hardware Unboxed and their sister channel Monitors Unboxed, for what you seek. Although their focus is more towards gaming, they also review "office" monitors. And they are very thorough in their reviews. The best advice I can give you, is to set your software in dark mode. This can often be achieved with a so called skin. Most monitors also have a blue light mode, you can activate.
More OLED monitor should be coming.
I remember being mocked on the HardOCP forums in 2008 for buying a wide gamut 24" lcd for $700, because according to them:
_"Oled Monitors are just around the corner!"_
😂
@@anasevi9456 LOL. But the time has come now.
@Rev yes, and when the wait is about to over, there will be new on horizon. 😂
“Always use protection if you can” he’s done it again lol
I like to raw dawg it most times
Dude I've just watched like 5 of his TV reviews in a row and I'm beginning to see a pattern....
He's a freak in the sheets ain't he
Use protection to buy this monitor because you can't afford both this and kids?
Do I put a ribbed cover on the monitor?
(Maybe you could make that comment sticky, Vincent) To all Ep950 owners: LG calibration studio now supports HDR! As well as a more precise mode for calibration.
There also is a new firmware for the display which can be installed using the "LG on screen control software"
Last but not least I'd like to mention how to enable the 24fps/48hz mode. I've had a hard time finding that out so maybe this info is useful to some people: keep the joystick pulled towards you for about 10 seconds. You will be prompted with a message stating that you have now enabled that option. It can then be found in the general settings. Happy new year to all of you!
Thank you for posting this Janis.🎆
nice.
The 32" 4K market is so frustrating if you want good HDR... only monitors that are $3,000-$4,000 or more do a praiseworthy job it seems, and they're generally marketed for content creation. Most everything else ends up around the $1,000 mark or less. At that range it's mostly IPS, sometimes a VA, definitely no OLEDs and all with HDR400 or HDR600 which is edge lit at best. I guess I'm one of the few who wants a nice 32" 4K for content _consumption_. The general message if you're looking to spend in the $1,500 range seems to be go get a 48" CX. But even if that thing would fit on my desk how can it be useful when sitting 3 feet away? And once you're further than that, is it really a "desktop" anymore? Not so much imo.
Well, rant over = P
I agree. I’ve been waiting years…
The key to using a 55" & larger TV as PC Monitor is treating it as a 4x27" monitor combo All-in-One. Have a proper large desktop with good depth and it's a no issue any more. You don't use the whole screen area for web browsing or reading etc, only for movies & games do you go full screen. For browsing treat it as 4 monitors and have smaller windows on-screen.
After a while you might consider 55" being to small and look for 65/70+ sizes. But then 8K would be more in the ballpark of necessary rather than 4k @ 55".
well, that's just how high end audio video market are. The cost to produce these OLED monitor is still not LED level. Maybe in 5 years we will see more affordable OLED monitors.
It’s a joke
God, I relate to this so hard. Several months ago, I was looking for a new computer monitor that was 4K and had good HDR because I wanted to use it to watch 4K Blu-rays while at my computer desk. But at the time, there was basically nothing that met my needs for a price I could afford. I ended up rearranging my room and computer set-up and saving up several weeks of paychecks from a part-time job to buy the 48-inch LG CX. How weird that a large TV ended up being more affordable than a medium-sized computer monitor with comparable specs. And 48 inches is about as big a screen as I can fit into my tiny living space, too.
To be fair, the CX is a fantastic TV, and I'd say it was worth the money I spent on it. But damn, did I try to find a smaller screen.
Great video, would love a 12.9” MiniLED iPad Pro display review from you!
Keep it up with your great reviews! It is nice to see someone doing serious technical analyses of displays, with proper measurements and objectively comparing products. Too many RUclips channels doing “reviews” who don’t get almost any of the specs correct nor know the basics of how to do a professional review.
Your video quality is outstanding. Love my LG 48 cx. Could never go back.
Thanks for the review. I was hesitant to spend on this monitor until I saw your review, and I will say -- for creators, this is the first truly spectacular unit in terms of color and picture quality since wide LED IPS broke the 27" size barrier! I don't regret being an early adopter. 3 things to note though: 1. I cannot get an Calibrite/i1 Display Pro to calibrate (in SDR) correctly due to an issue with reading pure reds. It's being investigated by Calibrite, then handed over to X-rite as OEM manufacturer. SpyderX works ok. I don't have any fancier spec to try. 2. The whitepoint at D65 seems a bit off compared to my various other monitors - a bit on the yellow side. I ended up targeting Judd, which I hear was what Sony did for their RGB OLED. Works much better. 3. LG support is non-existent. No one responded to my support Q re LG Calibration Studio and the Display Pro for weeks before I got a courtesy msg saying they don't know the product and are trying to find someone who does. At this price point, targeting a pro market, I find this very much wanting.
Has this been fixed?
@@amakavisuals9083 don’t know… I switched to using a spectro to calibrate and profile. Works great. But a spectro was a new purchase for me.
I found with my LG WOLED, it was necessary to use a spectro for an accurate whitepoint calibration. I wasted so much time experimenting with alternative WP's, alternate observers and even perceptual matching. Luckily I found a good deal for i1Pro2 on eBay and got one. After profiling my meter, the difference was instantly noticeable! Now I use D65 WP and CIE1931 (like you're supposed to) and everything looks as it should. No way I could've done that without the spectro and be happy with the result.
Casually dropping an important life lesson at 1:42 though.
Any news on those Panasonic OLEDs? They missed all their launch/update dates and it doesn't look like they are going on sale this month as promised...
Do you mean the JZ2000? It won’t be released here in the US.
@@jessepinkman4223 yes and I'm not in the US and neither is Vincent
@@Liiineeepiiieeeceee Vincent's right here inside my screen, so he must be in the US, because I'm in the US.
Wait, there are other countries in the world? O_O
@@lordpersius0322 Don't be ridiculous ofcourse there aren't - the "outside the US release" is just technical lingo for stuff getting dumped from the factory directly into the interdimensional void
Vincent's hair is on point again.
Thanks for the review. I’ve recently purchased the Sony PVM-X1800 for use on set and some HDR grading. I am interested in how it compares to this model. It’s HDR 1000 nits under $10K US.
I don't think you can compare them. The LG is more a high end consumer product, and not a high end grading product.
You pay a steep price for the oled panel.
I actually never heard of your model, but just looking on the specs, it's just in another ball game, with BNG SDI input etc.
This doesn’t make me feel so bad about dropping $3000 on the PG32UQX
yeah... but you bought an asus...
ASUS monitors are the best thing the company makes
@@iopqu ruclips.net/video/5UVlUsUc0oM/видео.html and this is just one of the videos i have for this monitor. This one died within a year. Replacement is the exact same.
Hello Vincent! Thank you very much for your in depth and professional video reviews! Love the quality and subtle humor that goes into them! Here is my question and I hope you can help me (a bit at least). I am an aspiring colorist, have been working in a little post house for a couple of years now and want to go full freelance now. I have been working on a SWIT BM-U243 so far. (Not well known brand yet but very decent 10bit IPS displays for SDR grading) I am at the point of where I have to buy my own reference monitor now but can't spend a fortune. I have only done SDR grading so far but that is partly due to the limits I have hardware-wise and I'd like to at least be able to venture into HDR grading in the future a bit. My two contestants therefore are this LG OLED and the Asus Pro Art (either in 27" or in 32") I am having a really hard time chosing one though. Of course I'd love the extra vibrance and spice an OLED would give me and I am sure it would greatly incrase the fun when wokring on it but I am a bit afraid when it comes to longevity, accuracy over time and screen burn. I also think the lack of HDR standards supported with the LG is a big downside. Can you give me any recommendation on which of the two monitors is more suited for professional, everyday color work in mostly SDR (at least for the time) and with the most potential for HDR grading in the future? Would really love to hear your thoughts on this! All the best from Germany!
Can I use this to watch movies and not for professional work?
Hi Vincent! I bought this monitor after this positive review of yours and for the most part I really love it! What I really do not like is the fact that LG calibration studio seems to be really basic and I am having a hard time trusting its results. Also the fact that there is no HDR calibration available sucks. Do you have any infos about when LG is going to implement that in their software? As far as I understand it, the only option right now to hardware calibrate this monitor for HDR is a 2000 Dollar license of Calman Studio? This seems no right given the price of the monitor itself. I also wonder what the new (came with the latest firmware which took forever to flash) black offset function in SDR modes is for. Would love the hear back from you since I'd love incorporating some HDR grading in my workflow but can't do so until I find a feasable option for calibrating HDR. All the best from Germany, cheers!
Hallo Janis, Ich überlege mir den Monitor ebenfalls zu kaufen. Hast du für die Kalibrierung eine befriedigende Lösung gefunden?
Grüsse Marc
@@marcfrick415 Hi Marc, sorry fuer die spaete Antwort, hab grade erst deine Frage gesehen. Es gab mittlerweile ein update fuer die LG eigene Software mit der sich jetzt zumindest auch die HDR Bildmodi kalibrieren lassen. Es gibt wohl einige hacks um mit einem guenstigen iOne Pro eine nahezu perfekte kalibrierung mit DisplayCal (freeware) zu erreichen, das ist allerdings ziemlich frickelig und mir auf Dauer zu aufwendig. Zudem moechte ich auf jeden Fall Hardware seitig kalibrieren. Bin deshalb bis jetzt bei der LG Software geblieben, das ist so weit auch ganz in Ordnung, man kriegt nur nen minimalen Farbstich in neutral grauen Flaechen. Liegt scheinbar daran, dass die Colorimeter eigentlich eine Profilierung fuer OLED brauchen weil die spektrale Distribution da ein bisschen anders ausfaellt als bei LCD, bzw. LED und man in der LG Software aber stand jetzt keine custom Profile laden kann. Aber ich komm trotzdem gut so zurecht und wenn man das mit dem Farbstich weiss, kann man ja da entsprechend sensibel agieren. Liebe Gruesse
This video looping 99999 times is cutting on my attention time...
I’ve been trying to get the 27” version, the 27EP950 for over a month now, availability is zero worldwide. Extremely frustrating. I want an OLED monitor but I’m not having a 48” or even 42” panel 20 inches from my face.
It's already listed on BH..
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1621993-REG/lg_27ep950_b_27_oled_uhd_tilt.html
Should be available soon ;)
@@janikdk84 That listing has been there for around 2 months now. This monitor will probably be sold out and not seen again for several months, like everything else.
@@XxMsrSzprzxX i do not agree. LG has announced these monitors to become available this summer.
Maybe you should try with a bit of patience instead of pessimism ;)
@@janikdk84 There's a worldwide monitor supply chain issue dude, display ICs are in extremely short supply. That's reality not pessimism. Manufacturers of all electronics are saying things to make people happy. Stores are stocking 1-3 units of LG's newest 27GP950 at a time, instead of dozens. I just saw a listing sell out within half an hour with my own eyes as I was entering my card information. Since when do PC monitors sell out in minutes?
Whoa, Vincent! The blooming reflection you mention is your eyes. I just did a bunch of tests on hard edge contrast like a thick white line on black background and it blooms as you mention. But, if you put a credit card or something just over the line to hide one side and see black on the other, the bloom goes away. It's clouding (diffusion) in your eyes' lenses. I also printed out a white line on ink black background on my pro Epson printer and I see the same blooming there.
Hello. LG 32EP950 or LG OLED42C2/C3 ?
For that price tag I expect an aluminium body and very solid aluminium stand. And a decently designed standd for that matter. But I do like that OLED comes down in sizes.
How many of your viewers watch your videos on HDR displays? I thought most people used computers to watch RUclips but I might be wrong?
Yes, you're wrong.
I never watch RUclips on a monitor. Why would I, when I have an expensive TV, for the same purpose, and in much better quality?!
About the looks:
If you take a look at pro grade monitors from various vendors, like Sony, Eizo etc., they look absolutely horrible. They look like cheap, no name brands, with a lot of dials and/or buttons. They look nothing like high end. But they cost $20-40.000.
And that look goes the same for any monitor, used in TV Studios, film grading room etc.
It's really only the Apple displays, that are shiny, and it's really a fail, from a grading or monitoring perspective. You absolutely don't want a shiny edge around your monitor, when you sit and color grade in almost total darkness, at 100 nits brightness setting for SDR grading, and 1000+ nits, for HDR.
It's just one of many reasons, no professional company would ever use the Apple monitors for these kinds of workflow.
Make sure when using your OLED as a monitor you make the task bar auto hide, you use your web browser in full screen mode and get an extension for your chromium browser called scroll bars which allows you to hide them when browsing. In games, if you have the option make sure to hide your hud. Also it helps to set windows to high contrast dark mode. Set a screen saver to run after 30 seconds and if you must have a desktop background have it as a slide show or a moving one.
As I've stated, Ive used my b7 for years as a monitor.
There goes the superiority of the "pro" display xdr.
It was never there in the first place 😅
I just hate the cheap looking thick plastic bezels. I wish it had a slightly sleeker look and thinner bezels.
$4000 for a monitor that looks like it was released in 2011 by Sharp.
ehh, its not that bad lol although i understand what you mean. its 2021, thick bezels should be extinct!
I think this one is for the pros - not the posers.
My 5 year old Dell looks better than this
@@damientech88 Exactly
havent started watching but I AM SO HOPING this is the holy grail.
aaand I ordered it :D finally a SDR UHD "Class 2 Reference" monitor under 48"... !
@@FinnJaeger1337 Where? I can't find any stores that you can buy from in US
@@lukekim1274 I ordered it through my local mediatechnology reseller in germany. are you sure you cant find it? I saw it a bandH website
@@FinnJaeger1337 Hi Finn! Mich würde interessieren was dein Einsatzgebiet für diesen Monitor ist und wie deine ersten Erfahrungen damit bis jetzt sind. Liebe Grüße und frohes Neues!
@@MrJemabaris grading / finishing von werbefilmen, bin happy soweit, komme nur noch nicht 100% klar mit der kalibrierung, bzw ich brauxh ne bessere probe , super schwer den ordentlich einzumessen und extrem grün im default modus
Thank you very much for this in depth review of the LG. I am a content creator mainly using Davinci Resolve for video editing. I want to color grade in HDR and I like this monitor but I would like your opinion when you compare it to the Dell UP3221Q
HERE WE GO FOLKS. THE FILM EVENT OF THE YEAR, RIGHT HERE.
Looking forward to a review video for the new ASUS PA32UCG as well!
...and maybe a video comparing the two? Pleeeeease?
Want to know which one to buy.
Nice colour mastering Vincent ;) the video look lifelike on mine cx48. Have you edited this video on the lg32E950?
IGZO - QDF - OLED
IGZO - QDF - miniLED - IPS
And the winner is?
I wonder if the new 42" C2 changes anything in your final thoughts on the EP950 vs an OLED TV
Fantastic review! Love the humor as well. Keep it up!
Yes, when you make blue pixels larger, you can essentially get same light output but with much less current, thus improving its life dramatically.
Finally something exciting to come out after years of waiting. Still using my 10 year old Quato 240ex LED display (RGB LED backlight). 100% Adobe RGB coverage. For my photography purposes it's still great but, wish I could get zero video judder and HDR. It's to bad this LG doesn't have the same level of hardware calibration. Only EIZO seems to be on the same level but they are expensive and none cover 100% Adobe RGB. I have to wait longer... I hope my monitor doesn't die any time soon! 🤞
I truly wish to get this oled monitor in the future , damn what an upgrade 👏👌
The lack of Dolby Vision support is unfortunate. But I was primarily considering this monitor as an SDR mastering only monitor anyway. With that said, I’m really debating just having two Dell UP3221Q monitors.
If you manage to get your hands on one, I’d love to see what you think of it.
But can it play Crysis?
I own 3 of these beauties for my gaming. Amazing.
Really? How are the black? I want the 27 in one
Seems perfect for SDR which for the price (especially now) is all you can really ask for!
It's true that it's a professional monitor, but if it had supported 120Hz, VRR, and had lower input lag (or a gaming mode with such), I think you'd find quite a few gamers who would pay $4K for the world's first practical OLED gaming monitor. As far as I can tell, these are all controller and/or firmware features and would not have significantly changed the BOM of the display.
well.....if synchronize the gpu with monitor frame wouldn't do the trick ???.....
I ask as a not professional ofcourse......
Still, that doesn't stop it from being a great console gaming monitor.
@@2-da3333 it’s missing several important features for a modern console gaming monitor. 120Hz and VRR are both important for the current client consoles, and input lag is an unknown quantity. Such users will be much better served by the much (MUCH) cheaper 42” LG C2. And PC gamers will be better served by the much cheaper 34” QD-OLED gaming monitors.
It really can't be both a professional grading monitor, and a gaming monitor.
To use it for grading, you need a box, like a Blackmagic DeckLink, to connect to the monitor.
You could of course just change input to the GPU, every time you wanna game.
But didn't Asus or LG already make an Oled gaming monitor at under $3000?
Can you review the Hisense U9DG 4K TV next? I know it's dual cell and you talked about the downside of the power consumption, but when I looked up the Hisense Dual Cell Series SX and compared the U9DG some specifications and build quality, they are different. I am curious if Hisense fixed any issues with the Series SX. Love your reviews. I hope you get your hands on the U9DG dual cell tv. The U8G is better than the Samsung QLEDs with deep blacks, colours, and brightness. Even giving LG OLEDs a run for their money by competing with the deep black picture quality. So I really am curious about the U9DG now. Thanks.
Dear LG, send me one, we'll talk about the money later.
Just hope they establish a 31.5" line of various grades. Hopefully one day can buy an 31.5" OLED monitor for $1k even. 1440p 144hz, or 4k 60hz.
Sick and godd@mn tired of the $500 ------GAP-----$1.5k+ that exists between normal aspect plain LCD monitors, and advanced backlighting monitors.
Save a few laughable 6 zone bloomfest FALDs for $1.2k or whatnot.
Agreed. I spend enough time staring at my monitors that I could justify something in maybe the $1.5-2k range as a "prosumer" purchase, painful as that would be on my wallet. Once it goes in to $3k-4k though... I'm not using my monitors to generate money so it just doesn't make sense. The advice is mostly go get a 48" or 55" CX but that's just not gonna work for me. Even if it fit on my desk, it'd be comical to sit 2-3ft from such a display, and the DPI is the same or worse than 24" 1080p levels. No thanks. The first company that fills the gap in 32" 4K with an offering that has a decent feature set and costs around $1.5K could do pretty well in the market imo. But it seems we're in the minority because it feels like there's not much coming any time soon.
Hey, I enjoy the content you create explaining current display technology. But I haven't seen any video of yours reviewing the M1 iPad pro mini-led display review. do you think you can do that for us? thanks.
Hi! What about the newer model LG 32BP95E? Is the probe worth it? Is exactly the same panel (it's rated 520 nits)?
Waiting for the 42” OLED to replace my desktop monitor. High refresh 32” OLED would be ideal but that’s likely happening next year.
Fantastic panel, hopefully they find a way to improve the near-black performance, maybe splitting the subpixels to disable part of it completely when close to black? Hopefully similar panels will be available at high refresh rates soon.
Pretty sure the way to “fix” near black performance is to stop the pixels switching off ever. This is the only way to avoid the difference between the lowest and next lowest level of luminance literally being infinite. If it raises the level of the black floor a small amount this is effectively negated by raising the room ambience above absolute black.
I am impressed, this is a very professional review. Thank you.
Didn't LG announce a 42 inch OLED TV that was supposed to come out this year?
Yeah. At least a 42 in panel. Yields are the tough part.
www.whathifi.com/us/news/this-years-42in-oled-tvs-could-be-less-than-dollar1000
They did yet we haven’t heard anything. I was expecting it to come with the other oled TVs that are already released. Very strange
@@Captain-Chats It is not expected to be out in January, a full year after the initial announcement.
Is there a reason that your videos colors look off sometimes? Especially the reds and greens? Only notice it, in certain HDR videos. Looks exactly the same on my CX, and iPhone 11 Pro Max. For example, when you show the spectral power distribution chart...you can see what I’m talking about there...
It’s like you’re grading in BT2020, instead of DCI P3. Tho I’m not really the one to be talking about this lol. Just something I’ve noticed.
Btw...this monitor looks 🔥 not to mention, should destroy a WRGB, in terms of color/color volume. Man WRGB is disappointing as hell, in terms of color volume, at higher luminance levels/shades. I just honestly don’t think there’s any beating QLEDs color/color volume/color separation. I can tell you, I miss that color and color volume probably more than the black levels, and contrast of OLED. There’s just something missing entirely, in a lot of my HDR/DV content, that even a “budget TCL r625” could achieve....but the CX just can’t.
Some footage (including the charts) have to be captured in SDR sRGB colour space, then put into an HDR timeline, which affects the colours.
Yes! I was waiting for this review. We may be ordering this monitor in a couple weeks. Hopefully this will be my “hero” monitor for years until development of Quantum dot OLED comes out. Just imagine the near human realm of color gamut of Quantum Dot and the self emissive properties of OLED.
4000$ expensive then LG OLED Tv?
Question? How does it would it fare with menu bars from a computer program? Those are static images unmoving for periods of 10 minutes to maybe an hour. I wouldn’t want to cry 😢 after my first week of use.
@Archie Pina: We've been using the monitor with taskbars for 100 hours, and haven't seen any ill effects. But realistically, most colourists using this should be running it beside another GUI monitor.
@@hdtvtest Thanks for the informative response. Of course, we will be mating this monitor with 2 x 16” monitors as the GUI “palettes” underneath this one for a triple monitor set up. Found that 3 x 24/27” monitors oriented horizontally meant a lot of chair swiveling/neck turning.
@@Sumanth_సుమంత్_Telugu It’s also 1ms & 32in...
Did that part fly over your head?
TFT Central in their review of the EP950 recorded a very different input lag than you did, only 1.29ms but they do use a different measurement system, not that it matters much for the target market.
I need Ultrawide 34" 5K Oled Monitor!
Nice! Now just have to wait 2 to 3 years to get my hands on a used 32EP950 monitor for $250.
You didn't discuss near-black uniformity. I only noticed a few seconds of small 3-4% gray slide shown at the very end. It looked pretty poor with the usual vertical banding and slight vignetting. Hard to tell with youtube compression so how would you rate the near-black uniformity compared to the best WRGB OLEDs?
I don't think anyone has any clue the sorts of sales that we'd see once 42" and smaller sized OLED TVs come out. I mainly want mine for gaming, but 42" is the largest screen size i can deal with. As soon as one comes out I'm buying one, whatever brand
Is much better then Pro Display XDR, but stil Eizo 3145, 3146 and Sony HX310 are no. 1.
If only we had true rgb OLED televisions instead of wrgb.
Triple the price :)
@@haukionkannel The wrgb OLED TVs are expensive already. A true rgb panel will always provide better color accuracy than wrgb.
Just brightness needs to be higher on a tv compared to a monitor due to distance and environment
And we need them, LEDs too, to be RGB not BGR.
Lol don’t you know how business works? this is one of the first smaller OLED panels for a monitor and you want everything.
thank you for this review i have 2 questions plz, first :
can you do a comparison btw ASUS ProArt Display OLED PA32DC 31.5" 4K and ASUS ProArt Display OLED PA27DCE-K 26.9" 4K for colorist works?
secondly: can i buy this monitor or oled tv from B and H (USA -120V) knowing i will used in my country (middle east 220V 50 hz) ? thanks a lot
How does the sharpness (especially for text/office applications) compare to Apple's XDR or other 4k LCD panels?
Please check the latest firmware for the LG CX. Several users are reporting that VRR was updated and it flickers a lot less.
how is the 27" compared with this for gamming ?
is this worth for a gamming monitor not only general internet use ????
what would be then the best nn oled monitor for everything ??? quality+gamming.....
THX! (spammed a little bit...)
Thank you so much! Useful review 100%
if only this was 120hz :(
Lol don’t you know how business works? this is one of the first smaller OLED panels for a monitor and you want everything.
Yeah I hate how there's always at least one caveat with almost all tech. There's almost never that 1 product that ticks all the boxes perfectly.
120 hz will costs 8000$ and is bundled with a free 3080 TIE
I liked the part of the video where the Asian guy smashes the monitor over Piers Morgan's head.
14:54
Also, why does this monitor require some tumblers to switch to a flicker-less rendition of 24 FPS films in 60 Hz mode? Does not it have FreeSync or something to change the frequency on the fly, so even in 60 Hz mode it will just slow down to 2 * 24 = 48 FPS or speed up to 2 * 24 = 72 FPS?
Will you be doing a video on the latest LG firmware update
What happened?
Is that a new intro? Nice~
NIce curve joke with a straight face. BTW, no HLG or Dolby Vision? At $4K? No sale.
"...not as fragile as Pierce Morgan's ego when snapped by a celebrity."
It's nice to have HDR RUclips videos but I don't think RUclips's HDR to SDR tone mapping does a very good job here.
Does this have any strobing or BFI-like options? The X300 had a scan driving feature to greatly improve sample-and-hold blur, with an anti-flicker option to remove it if needed.
You forgot to add the sound after the deprecating sexual intended observational autobiographical self comments.
With all these brilliant reviews, do you think he has time for a satisfying sex life?!?!?!?! ;-)
Another wonderful information display with a suboptimal PSU. Only knowing every detail in east asia where the PMMA is cast, the oleds, ltps, are researched and produced, calibrated, etc. would one truly be able to fully realize what such reference level information display is capable of. There is alway "shareholder theory" in mass manufacturing meaning some part is not the best for monetary reasons usually it is the PSU not the panel of course. 465 nm, 525 nm and 625 nm are considered ideal primaries and the spectral radiance diagram given here appears very close to that ideal.
I'll take two.
Does it have antiglare coating ? Or is just another Oled Mirror panel ?
Does the blacks actually turn reddish, or is this just because of the camera? The sony one doesnt do it.
Hi!
Any chance of you reviewing the 2022 version which is supposed to come with hardware calibrator too? And see how well it works with Apple silicon macs?
The new model number (for the 27") is: lg-27bp95e-b
Also has there not come any competitors using the same JOLED panels?
Found that ASUS has the ProArt Display OLED PA32DC, which uses JOLED panels. I hope you can review this!
You mention there's no tinting on grey slides, but it look sort of pinkish on the left side, especially the left bottom?
Can a new MacBook Pro run this?
Will we see the new iPad 12’9 with MiniLED display review?
Well plenty wit on show for this video.
It's seems like a fantastic display - but perhaps serious gamers would be a little disappointed with the input lag response considering the price and being a dedicated monitor.
I thought it was very clear that this is not a gaming monitor. Just for professional color grading
@@osoriony
What’s that got to do with anything - monitors tend to (on the whole) have a faster response time than the norm.
Depends on the gamer 60fps is fine for causel gamers unless you a 440fps player seriously just buy a 1080p high refresh monitor if you realh want speed and speed like clarkson said speed is good speed is better lol
@@jonathanoxlade4252
Yes
Grading monitors usually have a very slow response time. It's just the way they are.
And as Juan wrote, it's not a gaming monitor. A monitor like this, would in a professional environment not even be connected to the GPU, so you couldn't even game on it, unless you changed the output port, every time you'd change from professional work, to gaming.
I'm a colorist looking for a monitor. Should I get this or the C2 42"?
This.
I hope the prices will drop in 2022 by producing massive volume
I wish there was like a 40/42 inch OLED with all the gaming features the CX has... 48 inch is simply too big for a computer monitor
Is there any reasonably priced monitor that can be used for HLG grading?
Yeah, take a look at some OS the Asus ProArt monitors, like the ASUS ProArt PA32UCR-K, ASUS ProArt PA32UCG-K & ASUS PA27UCX-K.
They range from $1500 to $2200.they are all +1000 nits monitors.
If 600 nits is enough for you, there are ProArt monitors at almost half those prices. Like the ASUS ProArt PA328CGV.
I just want a 32" / 27" OLED with 120Hz or more for under 1.5k ... D:
Why not 120hz ?
Almost sounds like he is saying epeen950...
You know Vincent means business when he dresses up for a review. It's like he's dressing up for a date with the display.
Best Guy for Panel review
How many extra pixels are there?
Just as a bit of feedback, I'd prefer ads at the start or end of the video, not right in the middle.
Only 139 ppi (pixels per inch). :( I'm watching this in HDR on my Apple XDR Display. lol....
It's understandable that some specialty requires high color accuracy. But some specialty work long hours staring at screen for coding, statistical analysis or writing and eye become tired easily. It will be great to if you can review monitor are eye friendly for office work. Thanks.
This channel is more about high-end stuff and new technology, than consumer products.
I highly recommend Hardware Unboxed and their sister channel Monitors Unboxed, for what you seek. Although their focus is more towards gaming, they also review "office" monitors.
And they are very thorough in their reviews.
The best advice I can give you, is to set your software in dark mode. This can often be achieved with a so called skin. Most monitors also have a blue light mode, you can activate.
Cue all the Hisense U9G fans 🥁
Any update on the 42 inch oled ?
I'd like to see the reactions of the people when they spot the first burn-ins on their $4000 OLED monitor....
Hi. Is it a true 10 bit or an 8+frc monitor? thanks
He would tell you, if it wasn't true 10-bit.
Is there anyway to pixel clean this monitor?