Prepare your stock RB25 or RB26 crankshaft for 1000hp - Platinum Tech
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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On top of the usual measurements and prep work when rebuilding an engine, Herman form Platinum Tech talks about what extra things he does to an RB crank to prepare it for 1000+ horsepower.
Recent videos have been very interesting, please do more
Thankyou. we are trying but its a juggling act between doing corporate work that pays the bills and our youtube channel which still isnt big enough to support itself
This guys really growing on me! Straight to the point no BS info is so refreshing!
how good would a step by step build serious to 1000bhp showing literally everything you need to do even the tiniest of details?
Tbh, your lucky to be even getting this. Knowledge is power and only comes through hard earned experience. Most engine builders aren't going to tell you much- otherwise why would you spend the big bucks and go to them?!?
@@danielbrealey2924totally agree, giving away secrets would send everyone broke. I think engine building is more than just following instructions, there is definitely skill learnt from experience otherwise everyone would be throwing engines together like IKEA furniture
obviously you need to know what your on about and not just a randomer off the street but I just mean the little RB specific tricks to save you lots of trial and error, you could tell someone exactly how to build a engine to the best spec possible but if they don't know how to swing a spanner they're not going to be able to are they @@danielbrealey2924
We tend to tell people what, rather than how. If we tried to show people how to build and engine we open ourselves to liability issues and give away too many secrets. Telling people what works means they are armed with information to help them when they go to build and talk to the engine builder and tuner.
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Always curious why certain components are chosen over others? Metallurgy? Tolerances? Treatments? Wieght? Compatible properties with other components?
I am convicted that no one on earth has more knowledge of the Rb engine than this gentleman. He knows every millimeter of the Rb engine, down to the hardness of the material. I would call him a guru for sure
Thanks Herman and Andrew for putting this knowledge on the web, very interesting to watch!
A person in a facebook group im in put a photo up of the prp coil pack for a 2jz and he was just hesitant about buying it cause he didnt know how good the product was so i showed him the video were you guys explain all that good stuff 😊😊😊
Great video, thanks for all the insightful information.
Nobody does videos on JZ engine like they do RBs
Very cool video. Thankyou Andrew and Herman.
That was surprising how RB cranks shouldn't be nitrided. I've always thought for ultimate strength it was essential, regardless of crank...must be for old school motors only now. Thanks for opening my eyes guys. 👍
Somehow, some way you make these videos look so bloody good. Every time! Be it 15 minutes on RUclips or 3 hour DVD production.
Great work as always.
I'm with this guy ..top guy and knows his stuff
I finally subscribed, only because of Herman and Platinum Tech videos...
Dude, keep up the good work, you are really good
this man is seriously an RB legend
Great video Andrew, (and Herman) thanks again :)
Hell yeah good content gives you more perspective and understanding what you need to do to your crack. Great vid fellas.
Very good videos Hawkins :)
awesome video
So keen for the 1jz video. My mates been giving me shit saying his 1j is stronger than my rb
So after all this is done, wouldn't the cost be similar to a billet crank? Genuinely asking.
How to prep your Subaru crank:
Step 1: get the crank and throw it into the garbage
Sorry, i thought you were talking about Barra's... 😅
😂😂
Subaru OEM cranks are know to be quite good, hey?
@@802Garage my subaru crankshaft that cracked in half in bone stock outback thinks otherwise
@@genius3258 A single experience is not valid statistically.
Sorry about your Outback, but that's an extremely rare occurrence. Out of the quite literally hundreds of Outback and EJ25 owners I know, that has never been a problem.
If you are talking about the new FB engines, hadn't heard of that either. I was more thinking of the turbo car cranks, though AFAIK all Subaru cranks are forged.
Awesome info! Would have never guessed that rb cranks can warp. Cool shit guys!!!!!🔥🔥🔥
Been waiting since the IG post... Thank you
Thanks mate 🤙🏼
Great review, can you do a video on the differences of the rb25 and rb26 crank. Also a video on an rb25 motor thats had some work. Whether its bigger pistons/rods/bored out/upgraded cranks etc. Thanks!
Only subbed for Herman's videos
You can take a hammer and tap the counter weights on your crank and if it doesn’t sing then there is a crack every time usually in the fillet.
Fault line, any sharp edges 90s etc. get rid of it. Radius fillets. But no stress risers. Crazy how knocking the edges off of things makes them stronger. Take away the places where cracks start is what you are doing. Nitrite is harder than wood pecker lips, Franks flex. Just a thought. Love this channel.
Would be good to see a video of a crank actually getting straightened
You've done 2jz vs RB block, can you now do heads please, they are what makes power at the end of the day.
Nice job Herman and Andrew .
Will add the factory cranks are induction hardened forged items, i never have worked out how deep the hardening goes or if right through. Nitto collars are harder than the factory crank material so a good investment to avoid wear there even on long nose cranks. Good idea to stake those grub screws in with a pointed punch to avoid then unwinding as loctite does not like heat to hold them in. Fault line on crank end = Stress riser becoming a fracture point. Some also now tear drop the oil holes on the mains to positively feed the big ends when big pumps that can keep up are used, usually by also drilling out the oil feeds to 8mm in the block.
As usual, very informative.
Ahh actually rb cranks are forged but are definitely NOT induction hardened
Induction hardening is a 'surface' treatment essentially, to produce a shallow hard wear resistance surface and have a softer ductile core to maintain strength. So to answer your query, no induction hardening isn't designed to increase the hardness all the way though a component.
Great info since I’m building my rd26 engine even though I’m not going to push 1000 but it will give me a peace of mind.
Triangles!!!
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Great stuff, as always! Thank you guys!
Why RB's have crank issues?
Because all inline 6 cylinders suffer it, it is inherent to all inline 6 cylinders and it is a harmonic issue you can only manage, but never cure.
Billet crankshaft in my 2.8L finally gave up the ghost at around 10-12,000kms of hard circuit driving, the nose snapped and oil pump was not in good shape (N1 pump).
But remember, I was circuit racing, not just a few inline runs here and there, but punishing it lap after lap with foot flat to the floor for sometimes 20 minutes at a time.
A billet crank from my experience will not cure harmonic issues in the RB, it only pushes the life out a bit more, but eventually the harmonic issues will catch up with it sadly.
If running a drag car setup, it usually isn't too much of a problem as time in these harmonic ranges is limited, so that is a good thing for the drag racing crowd.
these videos are awesome; super interesting and informative for sure
Fantastic video. Thank you for the content!
Really cool video! Time to go read up on shock peening.
I got my mate to stick a road tune onto my civic. He said that it should be good for 950hp on stock internals. I just need to get a K+N for better horsepower and mpg
I followed this video advice and have managed to get my RB from 1000hp to 1001hp
Out of psychological curiosity. What it the point of your comment?
You idiot! You didn't understand, they are reinforcing engine.
@@MotiveVideo I was curious to see what kind of people reply to this comment.
make sure to blow a load on your crank prior to assembly also, it helps trust me
Very interesting videos great job keep up d good work
I think a billet crank might be a cheaper option in the long run. The cost of treating a stock crank to 1k hp goals gives you some not so good insurance while a billet would be very good insurance
What are thoughts on a billet crank? And who is the most trusted manufacturer? HKS billet crank is +10kUSD but others are under 3kUSD.
Nitto has their billet cranks in almost every 8,7 and 6 second Skyline GT-R here in Oz. They are #1
I have heard in the video that standard RB crankshaft is not billet which is understandable but is RB26 crankshaft forged steel or just molten and poured cast iron ?
My RB crank was Nitrided :/ its a billet stroker crank though, not sure if that makes a difference
Good stuff
interesting retex guys. What's the radius you're using for the crank collar? THX (y)
Good video maate
But at that point is it just cheaper to run an aftermarket crank. Obviously balancing is still required.
motoray69 no it’s not. Billet cranks aren’t cheap!
@@MotiveVideo People don't understand. These are the same nutcases that think converting to dry stump is trivial...
top vid guys
What's cheaper? Doing all that to your crank or buying a billet and would you have todo that stuff to a billet crank as well?
You wouldn't have to do any of that to a billet crank but its a few thousand dollars. This is cheaper.
How much to get this done on average?
Yo where can I get one of them r32 GTr shirts at the start
Check the moviedvd website
Is it worth all the time and money to use a stock crank or would it be recommended to just start with a billet crank?
If you got the money and don’t care to spend it then go for billet
Love hearing gospel from someone that actually knows what's up instead of some keyboard hero
I’ve a rb25 neo which needs to be rebuilt, would you recommend forging rb25 and going big turbo or rb28 stroker kit?
Depends on your power goal: I'd forge it with a 26 crank. If you want big numbers then I would do big turbo and stroker
ENVY DYNO OMG!!!
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Honda way of getting 1000HP. Get a K24A2…send it
Just stick to 1 and 2 jz's
More Barra.. king of the l6
Lol no
1fzfe 4.5 l6
Im sure it is . A barra without a turbo is absolutely gutless. .S50 or S54 n54 n58 .or 2jz . Bmw helped toyota with the 2jz engine block design
Troll
fuck yeah 1fz are sick @@khalilmalas5337
3:10 metal fucks, filings*
Best way to prep a rb for 1000hp is to drop a barra in it.
Herman is a dude!
In short, get a billet crank...
I can't find the link for how to prepare my wallet for 1000 hp.
Haha you RB weirdos... Seriously. Sometimes simple is better... Look at rotaries...
RB’s are trash. How long they’ve been out for? Still no 5 sec pass 😂😂
yet how popular are GT-Rs for making quick real street GT-Rs.
@@MotiveVideo this guy obviously hasn't driven a GTR, best jdm cars I've ever driven hands down, even with mild power mods
Obviously you've never driven one
@@RandomlnternetGuy I owned a 97 r33 series 3 gtr with n1 turbos, sold it only last year. Massive regret. Whether you believe it or not, who cares.
@@JustForRita i wasnt replying to you