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  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2018
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    This episode features the stiffest competition ever in Game Knights history!
    Magic Pro Tour Hall of Fame members Brian Kibler and Ben Stark are joined by former professional player, and current Wizards of the Coast R&D member, Melissa DeTora to try out a new product called Magic Game Night. It’s all the multiplayer action you love from formats like Commander but designed to be playable with your friends and family straight out of the box.
    How will Josh fair against these titans of the game? Will his political trickery be enough to compete with their superior play skill?
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  • @liamdrummond9137
    @liamdrummond9137 5 лет назад +1595

    3 pros - let's play
    Josh- let's pray

  • @oxnut9491
    @oxnut9491 5 лет назад +3400

    This is like a celebrity chef cookoff but the challenge is microwaving hot pockets.

    • @dogdriver70
      @dogdriver70 5 лет назад +118

      and you use the same hotpockets each time

    • @darkensoles8467
      @darkensoles8467 5 лет назад +25

      ouch so true

    • @FranklyHerman
      @FranklyHerman 5 лет назад +5

      lol so true

    • @kcsnipes
      @kcsnipes 5 лет назад +5

      Oxnut lololol accurate

    • @fb3088
      @fb3088 5 лет назад +6

      OMG, lol, I died laughing to this.

  • @jorgecardoso5863
    @jorgecardoso5863 5 лет назад +434

    They are all so cute and happy, it's great to see titans of magic having a simple and casual fun together

  • @Argeaux2
    @Argeaux2 5 лет назад +959

    You can tell that Melissa chose the red deck in the second game because it is the weakest, and she hadn't lost yet on Game Knights.
    She's a good sport.

    • @lot2973
      @lot2973 4 года назад +38

      I can say from experience that the red deck is actually more than capable of facing the others

    • @shantehibbert5032
      @shantehibbert5032 4 года назад +48

      Melissa's a beast

    • @dustinchen
      @dustinchen 4 года назад +25

      she's a girl and nerds wont attack her as much

    • @clocktowers1
      @clocktowers1 4 года назад +12

      @@dustinchen hahaha lmao! It's the secret tech.

    • @monarchgupta2712
      @monarchgupta2712 3 года назад +13

      @@lot2973 yeah in a one-on-one but it's weak in multiplayer

  • @GrundysGames
    @GrundysGames 5 лет назад +843

    I would like to see same people return but with their own Commander decks since they probably never play Commander even though Melissa was here before, still fun to watch.

    • @hayden32040
      @hayden32040 5 лет назад +16

      Seems perfect for the next episode of Extra Turns 👀

    • @daveforce4482
      @daveforce4482 5 лет назад +4

      that is probably the reason they do not play EDH.....

    • @TriangularPrism
      @TriangularPrism 5 лет назад

      I think Kibler's said that he doesn't play EDH, but don't quote me on that

    • @mrantihippie
      @mrantihippie 5 лет назад

      I really enjoyed watching how her commander deck works and agree.
      Her angles were awesome, even better to see them against other pro built and played builds.

    • @waywardkitten1
      @waywardkitten1 5 лет назад

      Yes please

  • @kiyancarre6345
    @kiyancarre6345 5 лет назад +655

    It’s kinda funny that these pro players are doing like in depth analysis of the game while playing the simplest form of magic.

    • @yelanates
      @yelanates 5 лет назад +59

      Kiyan Carre that’s what I LIKE about this. These players should be able to make the most of a limited toolset.

    • @dsper7640
      @dsper7640 5 лет назад +5

      And playing terribly

    • @films-n-stuff
      @films-n-stuff 5 лет назад +4

      They're pros. It's what they do

    • @regigigasplays518
      @regigigasplays518 5 лет назад +2

      Their kinda bots

    • @fndj6193
      @fndj6193 4 года назад +1

      That’s why there pros

  • @Oskanwhitchfather
    @Oskanwhitchfather 4 года назад +92

    "Blue is my favorite color in Magic"
    Day[9]: "You're a bastard!"

    • @VashXTrigun
      @VashXTrigun 3 года назад

      I like Blue too, sorry Day[9].

  • @olivercharles5581
    @olivercharles5581 5 лет назад +410

    As someone new to the game I'm finding watching pros tackle precon decks very helpful and interesting but I see why vets would find it annoying 😮

    • @TheDarkCatYT
      @TheDarkCatYT 5 лет назад +22

      I've been playing for two years, and it is kinda boring with the lower life totals, no commander, and all of that.

    • @regirex4418
      @regirex4418 5 лет назад +47

      This is much better gameplay to learn from for beginners than commander. But once you get the basics, the rest of Game Knights are formatted in a way you can understand easily. Also their podcasts help explain the intricacies of the game and help to develope strategies. Good luck!

    • @Nr4747
      @Nr4747 4 года назад +13

      It's less that we find it annoying and more that we see it as a huge missed opportunity.

  • @jvk4455
    @jvk4455 5 лет назад +536

    Hopefully there is an extra turns with these guests so we can get some real commander content and dynamic gameplay

    • @owenphelan9183
      @owenphelan9183 5 лет назад +1

      Yes

    • @jdrury6976
      @jdrury6976 5 лет назад

      what is extra turns?

    • @jvk4455
      @jvk4455 5 лет назад +17

      @@jdrury6976 their new, faster paced series where they play with their own commander decks. Less is edited, and the reality tv show-esque commentary breaks arent a thing. Its what the viewers are here to watch, so hopefully they continue the series.

    • @amgrabowska
      @amgrabowska 5 лет назад +9

      Upvote. This. Man. A full blown extra turns with personal command decks and this cast would be awesome.

    • @thedoctor9984
      @thedoctor9984 5 лет назад +1

      I know this is a little late, but it's confirmed that that isn't the case. I asked on kibler's stream a while back, and he said these were the only games they recorded.

  • @holmborn
    @holmborn 5 лет назад +728

    bit dissapointed that you got some of the best players in magic, playing precons. Deckbuilding is such a huge part of player skill, its a shame it didn't get showcased in any way.

    • @firestormpiccolo
      @firestormpiccolo 5 лет назад +31

      Agreed... this feels like a real wasted opportunity but this one is obviously funded by Wizards to make a sale.

    • @Cronos804
      @Cronos804 5 лет назад +30

      I don't think optimized decks are the best to produce this kind of content. Obviously a lot of the entertainment comes from the players social interactions. But optimized decks play fast and do often cut everything that is not top tier. That can be pretty boring to watch. Thinking of clever restrictions for deckbuilding is difficult so giving out premades makes sense.

    • @dazaran714
      @dazaran714 5 лет назад +17

      It's not even any of the cool precons like guild kits or commander, they're one step up from welcome decks.

    • @targetedandfiring4336
      @targetedandfiring4336 5 лет назад +11

      Weren't you guys complaining over last episode because of top tier deck building?

    • @ExodaCrown
      @ExodaCrown 5 лет назад +8

      Deck building isn't as big of a skill anymore with the internet. You have so many resources that if you are having trouble with a deck you can look to see what other people are doing to fix the problem you are having. Looking at the metagame on MTGGoldfish, of the top 4 used, two of them are almost identical. Like only a few cards are changed, but the play style is the same. So having them bring their own decks it wouldn't show off their deck building skills. There is nothing wrong with playing precons. Draft decks would be too inconsistent for fun gameplay so using those procons was a nice compromise. Though I think them using the guilds precons would have been cooler, not sure how balanced it would be.

  • @starryskies9655
    @starryskies9655 4 года назад +123

    Any episode with Melissa in it is a good episode, and seeing these “beginner” decks at work was fun too.

  • @jasonsmith7530
    @jasonsmith7530 5 лет назад +114

    After skipping through the comment section I’m surprised to find that I may be the only person who really enjoyed this episode. I sold most of my collection a while back and only have self-contained products like Duel Decks, Archenemy, Explorers Of Ixalan, etc. to play with friends. I’m always curious if I will like these kinds of products and watching them played here is a good way to see them. I know episodes like these are just Wizards paid product placement ads but some of us actually want to see them. Keep up the good work.

  • @sethstinson7024
    @sethstinson7024 5 лет назад +74

    I really would've loved to see these pros play commander with their own created decks !

    • @thewitchsfamiliar
      @thewitchsfamiliar 5 лет назад +4

      Me too! I mean this is the Command Zone. This was disappointing

    • @tonycheezal5650
      @tonycheezal5650 5 лет назад

      Might be like turn 4 infinite combo I guess

  • @DummyUrD
    @DummyUrD 5 лет назад +66

    This makes me sad, this episode is better than last time, but these Decks gosh. I really hoped to see the pros piloting some interesting decks :(

    • @inannaenigma9391
      @inannaenigma9391 5 лет назад +1

      It's the equivalent play level of Monopoly-it's meant to be a stand-alone experience.

  • @billedbonsai3462
    @billedbonsai3462 5 лет назад +80

    Melissa at one point says "I just want to amass my zombie army" and she's a dev...and in war of the spark the mechanic "amass" creates zombie army tokens...mmmmmh coincidence or foreshadowing?

    • @christiangarza8122
      @christiangarza8122 2 года назад +2

      Probably a Freudian slip, where she is reminded of something else and says that. But it still fits so nothing seems unusual

  • @infecteddragoon5489
    @infecteddragoon5489 4 года назад +85

    At 7:38, I’m I the only one feeling like Melissa was hinting to the War of the Spark mechanic, which “Amasses her Zombie Army”.

  • @barbershopboy05
    @barbershopboy05 5 лет назад +250

    Awesome group of people, just wish this would have been commander instead of a so-so intro product.

    • @jerrywhoomst1116
      @jerrywhoomst1116 3 года назад +5

      Side affect of being sponsored by wizards.

    • @MakeVarahHappen
      @MakeVarahHappen 3 года назад +3

      I honestly think this is more fun than watching them play commander because it's powered down to like a limited level which they have experience with, meanwhile unless you play vintage or highlander there is no comparison to commander, and even then it's not the same.

    • @randomslomo1875
      @randomslomo1875 3 года назад

      Agreed, but it is nice to see that they can have some amount of fun with a more limited deck.

  • @JordanBurdette
    @JordanBurdette 5 лет назад +1419

    Kind of feels like a waste with all this guest talent to play precons.

    • @jimsherbahn102
      @jimsherbahn102 5 лет назад +26

      they are playing precons???? man I might not even watch this if that's the case

    • @Mundane05
      @Mundane05 5 лет назад +38

      Would you have preferred a turn 3 win?

    • @jimsherbahn102
      @jimsherbahn102 5 лет назад +41

      and it isn't commander either, YIKES

    • @GeneralDisarray666
      @GeneralDisarray666 5 лет назад +29

      I would have preferred the CMTG players to play CEDH yes. Why would I waste their talents?

    • @crovax1375
      @crovax1375 5 лет назад +37

      Casual play can be fun too

  • @briancaro196
    @briancaro196 3 года назад +20

    Kibler is like a legendary magic player and he looks here like someone I could have had a fun play back in college. It's kinda heartwarming when you see people as that, people. Not just a name on a statistic

  • @anthonyaddario4653
    @anthonyaddario4653 5 лет назад +35

    As much as I loved watching this, it seemed like a wasted opportunity to see interesting high level interactions from all these incredible players,
    But was still really enjoyable, thanks guys

  • @krim7
    @krim7 5 лет назад +50

    I am really hoping you guys filmed a commander game with these players. Super sad if all we get is a precon battle

    • @jarredgolden4744
      @jarredgolden4744 5 лет назад +1

      Honestly I doubt it because they dont play commander. At least not openly. They did mention they dont do multiplayer games

    • @krim7
      @krim7 5 лет назад +1

      Melissa has been on Game Knights before, in a Commander Game. Plus Kibler seems like a fun loving guy who might get a kick out of it.

  • @BartimaeusOfUruk
    @BartimaeusOfUruk 5 лет назад +75

    Long time fan of the show! I LOVE all the guests you brought on today. A fantastic mix of skill, creativity, and personality makes them really fun to watch. That being said, subjecting these players to starter decks is not something I'm excited to watch. I do realize that this content might be geared towards newer players, but the sponsored aspect of the video takes away from the production value as well as the guests.

  • @trytoxania7020
    @trytoxania7020 5 лет назад +75

    Melissa’s back!
    And a second game! What a gift!

    • @flameofmage1099
      @flameofmage1099 Год назад +1

      Not judging you but ew, LeBlanc

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 Год назад

      @@flameofmage1099 what's wrong with leblanc?

    • @flameofmage1099
      @flameofmage1099 Год назад

      @@azeTrom17 Too much mobility lol

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 Год назад

      @@flameofmage1099 ah

  • @nateivorys7318
    @nateivorys7318 5 лет назад +238

    You should have these's guys back, for a REAL Game of... Commander? lol... that would be DOOOOOPE!!!! or an "Extra Turn's" episode would be cool?

    • @charleslegreatthegarbagemo7202
      @charleslegreatthegarbagemo7202 4 года назад +9

      Nate Ivorys too bad, as stated in their confessional, they are super unfamiliar to commander, so it kinda sucks, but it’s understandable.

    • @greaseboi4
      @greaseboi4 4 года назад +7

      They don’t play edh

  • @Marcosatsu
    @Marcosatsu 5 лет назад +1246

    Better than last time but... precon decks. With pro players. Alright.

    • @Volkbrecht
      @Volkbrecht 5 лет назад +110

      After the intro I expected some high-skill fun. But... but... well, there's no sugarcoating it, this is a disappointment.

    • @mauibermudez5960
      @mauibermudez5960 5 лет назад +63

      I hope they'll use these guests in the "Extra Turn" shows

    • @tylerbrooks6063
      @tylerbrooks6063 5 лет назад +57

      Honestly. It's the Command Zone! They upload a video once every 8 years! Can we see a Commander game please?

    • @Battleguild
      @Battleguild 5 лет назад +2

      I don't recognize the precon decks, which version are they?

    • @RyanAVRX
      @RyanAVRX 5 лет назад +7

      weird flex, but ok

  • @chrisp3564
    @chrisp3564 5 лет назад +166

    These are some of the biggest pros in all of magic and your playing precons?

    • @Tuturial464
      @Tuturial464 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah, if it was commander preconstructed decks. But this is just a shameless marketing tact from welcome deck upgrades. Heck I could upgrade the welcome decks a few cards and make a better version from this for the same price

    • @vladplasmius2854
      @vladplasmius2854 5 лет назад +2

      *you're
      Contractions use apostrophes, not quotation marks, smart guy.

  • @Shadow-bx5dp
    @Shadow-bx5dp 4 года назад +33

    I only discovered MTG on RUclips last night and I'm obsessed , I want this game 😭

    • @asuuna7412
      @asuuna7412 4 года назад +2

      Go to untap.in. It's online card games, for free.

    • @Shadow-bx5dp
      @Shadow-bx5dp 4 года назад

      @@asuuna7412 thanks

    • @ryanbell6672
      @ryanbell6672 3 года назад

      IN the years following, the private detectives could only report to the family that Shadow had posted this, a reference to getting into MagicTG... only to never be heard from again

    • @Shadow-bx5dp
      @Shadow-bx5dp 3 года назад

      @@ryanbell6672 I don't really understand what you mean

    • @ryanbell6672
      @ryanbell6672 3 года назад +2

      @@Shadow-bx5dp.... le sigh....
      A joke about how consuming MtG is if you get into it, and how it becomes an obsession.

  • @randyb.k.4018
    @randyb.k.4018 5 лет назад +61

    “I’ve got a 9/9 with vigilance and trample. Everything is favorable trade.... Pass the turn.” ?????????

    • @lesterb7151
      @lesterb7151 4 года назад +6

      Buffs the 5/5 to ⁷/⁷ ... attacks with the 2/3... yeah...

    • @jadenlothes5001
      @jadenlothes5001 3 года назад +14

      He's a pro, he thinks on another level that we normies can't understand

    • @kellischoefer7762
      @kellischoefer7762 3 года назад +10

      He is afraid of melissa's removal, and Ben can multi block and kill it, and josh hadn't been doing anything, so kibler probably was wary of burn spells, and pro players have a thing with life totals, they want to make sure they take little to no damage. I probably sound like I'm a pro, but I just know a lot about magic

    • @jadenlothes5001
      @jadenlothes5001 3 года назад +19

      @@kellischoefer7762 "I probably sound like I'm a pro", what a flex brother, save some clout for the rest of us.

    • @kellischoefer7762
      @kellischoefer7762 3 года назад +6

      @@jadenlothes5001 I'm 11 and I'm gearing up to go to the nationals next year, maybe mythics

  • @redmillion7089
    @redmillion7089 5 лет назад +284

    Brings in awesome players for a more "competitive" game. Plays preconstructed decks.🙃

    • @Tuturial464
      @Tuturial464 5 лет назад

      Matt C as much as I think this episode is good. It’s not great since we could see commander gameplay, heck I must be one of the few who thought gameplay last time was okay even though teferis protection is a stupid broken card and preconstructed commander decks before 2018 are hard to find and so expensive.
      But sad thing is these guys are supported by wotc and they are sponsored to a keep the channel alive and running. The box set seems good but it has flaws like welcome decks are a great intro for new players and b it’s mono colored decks for 40 and they don’t seemed too balanced

    • @citizenfox5721
      @citizenfox5721 5 лет назад +4

      Gets new Game Knights... complains like an entitled baby

    • @kellyfreeman9486
      @kellyfreeman9486 5 лет назад +4

      Citizen Fox game knights is usually the commander format. This isn’t anywhere close to that. It’s understandable that the people who watch game knight videos for commander content, would be a little upset with the Channel not having commander content. Especially with these high profile players.

    • @citizenfox5721
      @citizenfox5721 5 лет назад +2

      Entitled, whiney, brats. There are plenty of game knights that aren't commander. Go to the episode with Mark and cry about that not being commander next.

    • @Tuturial464
      @Tuturial464 5 лет назад

      Citizen Fox maybe so, but don’t you think this product feels like selling welcome decks? And we aren’t entitled to anything but aren’t we supposed to get something a little more entertaining.
      I am not saying the other games aren’t entertaining but this one feels like lowest of the standards

  • @codelicious6590
    @codelicious6590 5 лет назад +100

    Its like watching famous racecar drivers race gocarts.

    • @battlesocke12
      @battlesocke12 5 лет назад +5

      To be honest... that would be hilarious!
      Well this episode is not.

    • @codelicious6590
      @codelicious6590 5 лет назад

      @@battlesocke12 I think it may actually have been done before- some charity event perhaps? Yeahh, I couldn't make it through this- a draft would've been more interesting.

    • @NateHaleen
      @NateHaleen 5 лет назад

      @@battlesocke12 That would be way better than this, but maybe because I know nothing about car racing

    • @zachmcmillan4060
      @zachmcmillan4060 5 лет назад

      Or those tiny little mini-motorcycles,f****** clown shoes dude.

    • @saphired02
      @saphired02 5 лет назад

      Or using toy cars.

  • @henriblaze
    @henriblaze 5 лет назад +66

    7:37 - 'amassing my own army' was this a hint to War of the Spark? lmao

  • @172prv
    @172prv 5 лет назад +14

    Man, I don't mind precons if they really do have a solid reflection of what each color really wants to do, but Ben Stark not countering anything makes me so sad :'(

  • @Domenico44055
    @Domenico44055 5 лет назад +32

    That Kibler quote at 10:08 should REALLY be a flavor text

    • @sertaki
      @sertaki 5 лет назад

      I agree. That one was great :D

  • @bobbybaratheon4387
    @bobbybaratheon4387 5 лет назад +146

    Brian kibler = instant click

    • @giantewok
      @giantewok 5 лет назад +2

      He swerved hearthstone pretty well in his intro😂

    • @viperion_nz
      @viperion_nz 5 лет назад +2

      Honestly he seems like such a cool dude

    • @cptawesome11
      @cptawesome11 5 лет назад

      @Michael Wentz Ya why didn't he do that?!? That bothered me so much.

    • @Dracinard
      @Dracinard 5 лет назад

      Brian Kibler playing a precon = instant click, then small sigh of disappointment. I wanted to see the Dragonmaster playing, y'know, dragons! Still, Kibler.

    • @bobbybaratheon4387
      @bobbybaratheon4387 5 лет назад

      @Michael Wentz He was politicking, him swinging at melissa wouldve caused her to remove his creatures.

  • @kdchmln
    @kdchmln 5 лет назад +342

    51:08 to skip sponsored content

  • @jeremynachtman4626
    @jeremynachtman4626 4 года назад +16

    Whenever I see an episode that isnt in commander format it reminds me how much I prefer commander lol

  • @mrpandabites
    @mrpandabites 5 лет назад +291

    I love Game Knights and I know how much hard work you guys put into it, so I hope you take this in the constructive spirit that's intended: Although i dont mind the occasional shift in gears to watch something interesting like Maro playing his Un set, ultimately, i watch this show for two reasons: commander gameplay and the slick play-by-plays. Together. One without the other is just not as interesting to me. I'd be really sad to learn that you guys are permanently separating interesting commander games into Extra Turns and great editing and play-by-plays into a watered down version of Game Knights where it's just promotional content for wizards. I know Wizards helps pay the bills, but products of this kind are frankly boring and beneath the level of analysis that game knights play by plays provide. Please, guys, it matters what you play. I love this show and I don't want to see it become a multiplayer version of Spellslingers.

    • @doncheadle7976
      @doncheadle7976 5 лет назад +3

      Amen

    • @SamMurlless
      @SamMurlless 5 лет назад +2

      It’s weird but compared to this, spell slingers has more individualized decks.

    • @brandoncasiano1856
      @brandoncasiano1856 5 лет назад

      Sam Murlless yeah spellslingers has custom staff made mythic and rare decks. They try to make it easy as their guests are typically new to the game.

    • @zachmcmillan4060
      @zachmcmillan4060 5 лет назад

      I miss jimmy 😔

    • @jqxok
      @jqxok 5 лет назад +1

      > I'd be really sad to learn that you guys are permanently separating interesting commander games into Extra Turns and great editing and play-by-plays into a watered down version of Game Knights where it's just promotional content for wizards.
      Except they've never said this or even suggested it. I actually went though the playlist and ran the numbers:
      - There have been 23 episodes of Game Knights
      - Of these, 16 have been Commander games (70%)
      - The remaining 7 have been other formats, mostly to showcase new products or formats, in the case of brawl (30%)
      - Of the 16 Commander games, 4 involved precons (17%)

  • @breech8929
    @breech8929 5 лет назад +136

    I would PAY to see them on commander decks... super hype into precons... feels bad, man...

    • @Sheriff_K
      @Sheriff_K 5 лет назад

      Yeah.. I'd pay too.

    • @MrEliakimRAS
      @MrEliakimRAS 5 лет назад

      Their Patreon link is over there - feel free to pay them to make EDH gameplays

    • @ddublu
      @ddublu 5 лет назад

      I am paying to see them on commander decks xD

  • @bradwalls8127
    @bradwalls8127 4 года назад +10

    The first thing I watched for magic and this gave me a great impression and I still playing

  • @sykorixgraveborn7142
    @sykorixgraveborn7142 5 лет назад +10

    I love watching this show, I'm a big fan of Magic and I have recently started playing the game, glad I found something like this to enjoy
    Wow, family game night decks are not as bad as I thought, they look like theyre really fun

  • @YOSEPHALLEN92
    @YOSEPHALLEN92 5 лет назад +152

    Man, this commercial is so long

  • @DylanSweeney
    @DylanSweeney 5 лет назад +41

    I was so excited when I saw this video and so heartbroken when I found out you weren't playing edh

    • @austinjohnson4
      @austinjohnson4 5 лет назад

      Fucking same bro

    • @austinjohnson4
      @austinjohnson4 5 лет назад

      I was like, fuck yeah finally come edh!! In gonna watch this as soon as I get out of work! But we all know how that went

  • @deltablaze77
    @deltablaze77 5 лет назад +50

    "Enchanted" Format: Instead of a commander each player has a legendary enchantment that can be cast from the command/enchant zone.

    • @mistraven8234
      @mistraven8234 4 года назад +4

      Imagine someone being dumb enough to choose Lich's Mastery 😂😂😂

    • @Famejayster
      @Famejayster 4 года назад +2

      Enchanters bane would wreck the format

    • @Viktxr
      @Viktxr 4 года назад +1

      @@Famejayster not legendary though

    • @kellischoefer7762
      @kellischoefer7762 3 года назад +1

      Lich's mastery would probably be really fun to play, you have to make sure you protect it and you get awesome benefits

    • @generalwolfeye9110
      @generalwolfeye9110 3 года назад

      I really like the idea, I’ll try it some time!

  • @jossmcalister9166
    @jossmcalister9166 5 лет назад +12

    "Amassing my own zombie army" oooh Melissa. I see what you did.

  • @CygmaSlag
    @CygmaSlag 5 лет назад +16

    Josh it’s okay, you can be honest and say you picked red because you miss Jimmy. We do too.

  • @nickatwork
    @nickatwork 5 лет назад +127

    gotta push that product everyone has 0 interest in

    • @nickmitch1734
      @nickmitch1734 11 месяцев назад

      I’m interested in the rot hulk…

    • @nickatwork
      @nickatwork 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@nickmitch1734 great, my comment is from 4 years ago so go buy the single

  • @justmagicmostly
    @justmagicmostly 5 лет назад +1

    These Game Knights videos bring so many smiles to my face! Thank you for providing all this fun wholesome content!

  • @commandermerc58
    @commandermerc58 5 лет назад +14

    That moment when you don't watch magic content often and you see this video watch it and then proceeds to enjoy it..... but a lot of other people don't and you feel like that poser that doesn't understand :(

    • @heyandy889
      @heyandy889 5 лет назад +5

      it's ok man. consider
      1) there's a tendency for satisfied people to go about their day, while an unsatisfied or upset person is more likely to leave a comment
      2) I enjoyed the episode as well. I guess people were really wrapped up in their expectations and were not able to take the video for what it was - a light-hearted, fun look at a new product with some insight from well-known players.

    • @NVEmery
      @NVEmery 2 года назад

      I'm 2 years too late, but no one here will judge ya. EDH is a party community format and we're all here to have fun. These are high level players, and alongside the editing, you can easily follow what's going on.

  • @fehlbrandschwele
    @fehlbrandschwele 5 лет назад +1189

    I've never before posted a negative comment on GK before, but playing lame precons with a line-up like THIS! It's not ok.

    • @peterolzem58
      @peterolzem58 5 лет назад +83

      @digitalcomis1 i think that was the funny part in this video. they weren´t run the best decks, so they have to relay more on the social (politics) aspect in this game. At least it was nice to watch

    • @jaycee9972
      @jaycee9972 5 лет назад +4

      agreed

    • @joeyportijo3765
      @joeyportijo3765 5 лет назад +19

      Yea I was hoping for super competitive commander

    • @Dracinard
      @Dracinard 5 лет назад +22

      @@peterolzem58 Fair, but I'd have much preferred to see a Commander game with these players. I mean, the Commander game with Melissa is what got me into Game Knights (and MtG as a whole), and watching Brian Kibler got me into CCGs as a whole (via Hearthstone). Seeing those two in Commander would be incredible. But seeing them with precons is... fine, I guess. I mean, it's not bad. But it could so easily be so, so much better.

    • @SuperPacMan1143
      @SuperPacMan1143 5 лет назад +6

      Past 2 videos have been garbage, and its not even commander like wtf with an amazing line up of players besides josh , so glad i unsubcribed byeee

  • @Solereaper21
    @Solereaper21 5 лет назад +44

    1:44 for intro to actual show, 5:34 for actual game 27:11 to skip mid-game ad

    • @omgitzducki
      @omgitzducki 5 лет назад +1

      You are amazing!!

    • @regirex4418
      @regirex4418 5 лет назад +3

      Skip this episode for good content

  • @lukasbubliauskas
    @lukasbubliauskas 5 лет назад +7

    Dude. I wish I got this for Christmas. I tried this out with my friends, and it was SUPER FUN. I also wanna get some of those Ultra Pro wallpaper thingys.

  • @pattywompus9332
    @pattywompus9332 2 года назад +1

    While every episode of this show is pretty wholesome, it is nice to see some professionals whose literal jobs are to play/create these cards, having a fun, casual game different to what they're used to. Different in ways like limitations of an intro deck, multiplayer, and politics. And then Josh who is used to these playstyles winning by his personal experience. By far the most feel-good/wholesome episode I've seen.

  • @keb7066
    @keb7066 5 лет назад +385

    This would have been 100x cooler if they were playing real decks

    • @walls_of_skulls6061
      @walls_of_skulls6061 4 года назад +3

      Some Dude they are kinda real

    • @cako666
      @cako666 4 года назад

      @@walls_of_skulls6061 real garbo lol.

    • @oORoOFLOo
      @oORoOFLOo 3 года назад

      it would be cooler if it was commander

    • @amarhastings6849
      @amarhastings6849 3 года назад

      @@oORoOFLOo No It wouldn't

  • @markyday9076
    @markyday9076 5 лет назад +102

    A lot of people have been asking for a competitive episode for a while, and I'm worried that this doesn't really fit the bill, since your competitive players are stuck with a prepackaged product that puts a very low ceiling on the gameplay. What we wanted to see are competitive decks built and played by competitive players.

    • @Sjaddix
      @Sjaddix 5 лет назад +1

      wait wait is that the real markydaysaid lol.

    • @markyday9076
      @markyday9076 5 лет назад

      @@Sjaddix Yes, unfortunately, it's me.

    • @Sjaddix
      @Sjaddix 5 лет назад

      well your channels of choice match what I know of you from tumblr, like running into a teacher at the grocery store lol.

  • @themagicofmtg
    @themagicofmtg 8 месяцев назад +1

    It's amazing how much four years can change the way someone looks! Seeing the young, clean shaven Brian Kibler is crazy!

  • @maxxflame
    @maxxflame 5 лет назад +11

    I find it interesting to see a different side of pros them being silly and humans actual people not there stout serious poker faced professionals I've only been to pptqs but this makes me wanna get more competitive

  • @MiseInTheSplinters
    @MiseInTheSplinters 5 лет назад +15

    I honestly would have rather watch another episode of extra turns over non commander stuff!

  • @CrownTheGame
    @CrownTheGame 5 лет назад +96

    I like you very much so lets have a talk, Josh. You get three pro players at the table. Why do you play a precon with them? Play EDH or modern or standard or at least make a "Extra turn" episode playing one of the listed formats.

    • @ImperatorNocturne
      @ImperatorNocturne 5 лет назад +10

      probably wizard wanting to promote the product without Josh having much choice in the matter.

    • @TobiasLeonHaecker
      @TobiasLeonHaecker 5 лет назад +2

      Wizard is paying for this video. Half of the videos of game Knights are just extremely good advertisement for products.
      So of course they are making video, which are not as fun for the core commander games but attract maybe new players.
      But maybe a another format for beginners would be a way.

  • @Dragonlord146
    @Dragonlord146 10 месяцев назад +5

    coming back and watching these in 2023 its so weird seeing kibler with short hair

  • @maxramirez790
    @maxramirez790 5 лет назад +7

    I love this! I just started playing magic and this is so helpful such a great video new favorite RUclips channel 😍

  • @rstollenwerk
    @rstollenwerk 5 лет назад +62

    Less Game Knights, more Extra Turns!

  • @leothomas4307
    @leothomas4307 5 лет назад +308

    I feel bad saying this but wizards of the coast is kind of making your gameplay poor. Like most of us are hear watching to see what fun decks you can come up with and how they play out.... And wizards are dtopping you doing this

    • @DummyUrD
      @DummyUrD 5 лет назад +9

      Yes, very much my thoughts too. I was super pumped to see the cast and then there are underwhelming decks in play :/

    • @vaughnknutson5512
      @vaughnknutson5512 5 лет назад +1

      Preach

    • @DummyUrD
      @DummyUrD 5 лет назад

      @Matias Figini I doubt it, if you watched extra turn. They stated that Game Knights is going down this route and that is the reason for the other show. RIP

    • @alekbeaver4088
      @alekbeaver4088 5 лет назад

      As someone who doesn’t really play casual magic at all, relax. All the casual play sucks, but these guys all make it worth it. Josh and Jimmy truly do an amazing job with this show. Also, consider this, they’re sponsored by wizards, so therefore they’re priced into advertisement due to their contract. Again, if you don’t like that, I dunno what to tell you.

    • @DummyUrD
      @DummyUrD 5 лет назад

      @@alekbeaver4088 It really depends on the contract. If they signed over their souls in the deal it is really their bad because their quality content is losing its quality

  • @duncanfinch27
    @duncanfinch27 5 месяцев назад +5

    Its 2024 now and this kibler is nearly unrecognizable

  • @e6staffsargeify
    @e6staffsargeify 11 месяцев назад +4

    This was 4 years ago? Kibler looks like he's aged 10 years since this came out damn

  • @ramensobatv
    @ramensobatv 5 лет назад +26

    Oh hey! How about we invite pro players/hall of famers on game knights. The fans would love to see them play commander and watch their sick moves... Except, they'd be playing precon decks for beginners. Good job command zone! Way to go! another great potential for an episode ruined!

  • @CannedCaineghis
    @CannedCaineghis 5 лет назад +147

    Oh... I get it, it's a 51 minute ad

    • @jamiehurricane
      @jamiehurricane 5 лет назад +5

      Created new Google account so I can double like this

    • @XpPotions
      @XpPotions 5 лет назад

      Naruhodo... you're an idiot

  • @Terry.M.I.
    @Terry.M.I. 3 года назад +5

    they are all just like "im not use to playing for fun but im rolling with it"

  • @lucibatt6694
    @lucibatt6694 5 лет назад +1

    This was really cool to watch!! :) I really like all of the personalities at the table and the commentary the offer on even the most basic games.

  • @Aeschelon
    @Aeschelon 5 лет назад +548

    No disrespect meant, but I think you guys should leave Wizards behind, because not having control over your content makes it feel very much like product placement, and no amount of “fun” gameplay can justify transparently visible corporate control that takes away from the bristling personalities that you guys have and book. I don’t mind seeing stuff other than EDH from you guys from time to time, but the last several Game Knights videos have been mostly stuff unrelated to the mission of your channel, which I assume is getting people excited and informed about commander.
    I love and respect you guys for all that you do, I just wish you guys would take more agency with your content in regards to Game Knights - it is always a better show when you have more creative agency, and an example of that would be the game where Prof and DeTora came on and played their own decks.

    • @N0Gutz
      @N0Gutz 5 лет назад +23

      Very well put. Agree 100%

    • @thebestjarjarbinks7867
      @thebestjarjarbinks7867 5 лет назад +18

      Mabey don't drop WOTC but just try having more creative control over your content?

    • @40Found
      @40Found 5 лет назад +4

      This is why they're starting Extra Turns

    • @jvk4455
      @jvk4455 5 лет назад +10

      The thing is that TCZ is likely making a fuckton of money for these sponsored GK's

    • @stormcrow4202
      @stormcrow4202 5 лет назад +7

      @@40Found But Game Knights was founded on Commander and getting people informed and excited about it with awesome edits and thrilling gameplay. It wasn't founded for 50 minute ads. You don't take something and make it unenjoyable and then just make something else and say "All better!" you fix it or even don't do it at all.

  • @tomc810
    @tomc810 5 лет назад +195

    Really feels like this series is just becoming a marketing tool for WOTC.

    • @ThePlayer4our
      @ThePlayer4our 5 лет назад +11

      It's been that way ever since Mel started appearing in almost every episode

    • @regirex4418
      @regirex4418 5 лет назад +4

      I hate it whenever a RUclips channel goes corporate. Remember what happened to Smosh? It’s awful now. I used to love the show, not its terrible. Don’t be new Smosh. Be old Smosh, doing whatever you want

    • @NightOfCrystals
      @NightOfCrystals 5 лет назад +1

      Sadly, I agree. I would have loved to see high-power Commander decks brewed by the players here, or even just their commander decks period. Low-power precons really crimps what this could have been.

    • @HuxtableK
      @HuxtableK 5 лет назад +4

      As if they really need that, with Magic being arguably the most popular TCG in the world, coupled with them having the most popular RPG in the world.

    • @cutecommie
      @cutecommie 5 лет назад +2

      This is how capitalism works.

  • @darthpotassiums1fan20
    @darthpotassiums1fan20 5 лет назад

    My friend told ma about these videos after we played against each other using two prebuilt standard decks. It was my first time (he has been playing for several years) and you guys totally helped keep men in the game. Can’t wait for more as I’m almost already caught up with the series.

  • @AC-kd4pp
    @AC-kd4pp 4 года назад +1

    Damn! 3 of my favorite Pro tour players from way back all in one show!!! Gotta love this one!

  • @enderalex300
    @enderalex300 5 лет назад +34

    While I was initially disappointed to see pros playing precons, this match was a lot more fun than it had any right to be. While it was simple, the pros brought out a lot of complexity in their lines. I would've liked to see what they could've brewed in an EDH game, but this ended up being super entertaining. I just hope that they get another chance to all come back on with some brewed decks at some point. Best of both worlds. Thanks JLK, this episode is the highlight of my week.

    • @killer6starblaze
      @killer6starblaze 5 лет назад +5

      I can't put into words how happy your comment made me, you are the biggest highlight of this comment section! :D

    • @Jjdude101
      @Jjdude101 5 лет назад +4

      Definitely love this comment. Sad reading all the negativity. I do hope they filmed a commander game w/ these guests and surprise us later on.

    • @camoshark5
      @camoshark5 5 лет назад +3

      Agreed, its upsetting to see the negativity. I was smiling the entire time watching this!

    • @WolfKnight-it1hc
      @WolfKnight-it1hc 5 лет назад +3

      Thank you for being so positive about this video, I liked it as well and seeing it get so much hate just because JLK had to do a promotion is quite disappointing.

    • @BitmapBlues
      @BitmapBlues 5 лет назад

      TY! I had to scroll past so much bullshit to find something positive. Loved this ep

  • @NickBase
    @NickBase 5 лет назад +339

    Omg such a waste , we got 1 video every month and then they play precons 😒

    • @TheShardFenix
      @TheShardFenix 5 лет назад +19

      CZ is becoming a sad parody of itself.

    • @NickBase
      @NickBase 5 лет назад +3

      @@TheShardFenix yeppp really sad I liked them :(

    • @cicero1173
      @cicero1173 5 лет назад +9

      True Bro, such a waste of time and just stupid product placement from wizard

    • @ImperatorNocturne
      @ImperatorNocturne 5 лет назад +12

      @@chiefsilverstacker1176 of course they can do videos that appeal to the masses, but why waste the pro-players on this? they can do the product placement with some regular cast members and have the pros play commander, i would have loved to see what they would have came up with.

    • @whorod8895
      @whorod8895 5 лет назад +10

      Chief Silver Stacker they’re not appealing to anyone though. Everyone just wants to see them play their own decks.

  • @NapalmJustice
    @NapalmJustice 5 лет назад

    I was making five mono-colored decks to teach a loved one how to play, and I found this video a couple weeks ago! I really like having something like this to pull out for a board game night, especially when I'm worried about my own ability to craft balanced decks that can be broken down to make two color variants. With friends who would be worried about the complexities of customizable decks, I really want to get this as a way to help everyone have more fun playing this game and learn what makes it so interesting. Thanks for highlighting this!

  • @Glockman20008
    @Glockman20008 3 года назад +1

    I like how they help teach you how to play. Very useful and entertaining. Thank you

  • @2chrischris
    @2chrischris 5 лет назад +10

    The one time they get Kibler on they don't play Commander. I want a refund.

  • @ivandragovic5958
    @ivandragovic5958 5 лет назад +32

    Why didn’t he attack with the 9/9 trample vigilance. It’s has vigilance!

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 5 лет назад

      Fear of removal from Melissa, and attacking Ben or Josh could rack up enough damage so that Josh could end it with a burn spell.

    • @corrackisdead
      @corrackisdead 5 лет назад +2

      DarkEinherjar but she had 1 black, I doubt they put a 1 drop removal for a 9/9 in a precon deck

    • @dangeroussecondaccount893
      @dangeroussecondaccount893 5 лет назад +1

      corrackisdead I think more just her getting angry and removing it on her turn

  • @PhazonOmega
    @PhazonOmega 5 лет назад

    Loved watching all these people play together! Good group ^_^ I hope to see them all together again, but with their own crafted decks!

  • @eemeli224
    @eemeli224 5 лет назад +11

    Yes, this would have been way more fun if they played commander. However, I still really enjoyed this episode and I think that a channel this size cant be expected to make extremely high quality content like this without sponsorships.

    • @disastercaster1024
      @disastercaster1024 4 года назад +1

      I know I'm late but they are sponsored by magic the gathering ultrapro and card kingdom not to mention patrion support

  • @Farycane
    @Farycane 5 лет назад +4

    Melissa! :D nice to have you here again

  • @kellyfreeman9486
    @kellyfreeman9486 5 лет назад +152

    I have to admit. I was excited coming in to watch this. But then you revealed what was going to be played. So....Probably won’t watch any more of it. I get it, paid sponsors and free products....yada yada yada. This is product placement, and it’s not even a product that I came to this channel to see. Bring them on for an actual commander game knights episode, and I’ll watch every minute. This video is getting a 👎 from me, sorry.

    • @kellyfreeman9486
      @kellyfreeman9486 4 года назад

      This was over a year ago...? This channel at the time was more about commander than almost any other channel on RUclips. So it would make sense to expect the people who come on the show to be interested in commander. Get off with it.

  • @jankracik4956
    @jankracik4956 3 года назад +2

    watching this while putting sleeves on my cards...literally was holding a ghastbark twins card in my hand while he revealed his!

  • @JimFaindel
    @JimFaindel 5 лет назад +1

    As someone relatively new to magic, only having turned from hearsthstone to it due to arena coming out, I greatly apreciate this match and will likely be getting me and my friends a game night set
    Also, it is awesome to see Kibler doing something other than streaming or casting on his twitch channel, it really makes you appreciate how great he is outside his usual games and gamestyles

  • @waywreth
    @waywreth 5 лет назад +52

    These caliber of players and precons? No thanks.

  • @oatsandtoats2009
    @oatsandtoats2009 5 лет назад +12

    This should of been a commander game SMH

  • @davidwilliford3079
    @davidwilliford3079 5 лет назад

    Hey Josh, Jimmy, DJ and the rest of the team. I just wanted you all to know how appreciative I am for all your content. It is the absolute best on the internet and you all should be very proud. Especially proud since YOUR content ignited my love for EDH and got me into the game. I just brewed my first deck, used the affiliate link at Card Kingdom (which I never knew existed btw so thank you) and can’t wait to sleeve it up and get to the table. Look forward to more content from you guys and hopefully playing with you one day. The Command Zone, you rock!

  • @rentoraa4295
    @rentoraa4295 5 лет назад +4

    At 7:36 the DESIGNER talks about AMASSing a ZOMBIE ARMY
    She just hinted at War of the Spark without anyone realizing it lol

  • @b1p_mac275
    @b1p_mac275 5 лет назад +9

    14:00 no attack with 9/9 vigilance trample seems wrong.

    • @bshell1731
      @bshell1731 5 лет назад +1

      I saw this comment before watching the games and I thought there must be some strategic reason for such a move. After seeing it I totally agree with you. Attacking any player seems justifiable. It seems like a waste of the mana/triggers.

    • @medvet20
      @medvet20 5 лет назад

      @@bshell1731 in that moment, he could wipe Melissa's board... They are pro players... But not very smart in multiplayer...

    • @bshell1731
      @bshell1731 5 лет назад

      My thoughts exactly. It's almost like they were just trying to prolong the game to show more of the decks to beginners who might buy the products.

  • @taylorpace8123
    @taylorpace8123 5 лет назад +48

    Stop shilling for your sponsors and bring back jumbo.

  • @rotatorcuffs8140
    @rotatorcuffs8140 5 лет назад

    I liked this episode and the gameplay. That being said I would love to see these guys on the show again. Hopefully though with decks they built and came up with on their own.

  • @Growling4Santa
    @Growling4Santa 5 лет назад +32

    Black deck.. zombies..
    Blue deck.. Thopters..
    red deck.. Goblins..
    Green deck.. GORECLAW and INFINITE DINASOURE POWEEEEEERRRR..
    Seems balanced

    • @perception3762
      @perception3762 4 года назад

      Maxwell Scott red requires lots of strategy, in my experiences I let my friends kill each other lol

  • @ivernedit4132
    @ivernedit4132 5 лет назад +5

    Can you do it with commander next time, I would love to see kibler ply it

  • @N1GHTH4WK986
    @N1GHTH4WK986 5 лет назад +194

    Josh. We all love you and Jimmy as well as ALL of the guests that you guys bring in. But NONE of us enjoy these products that Wizards are forcing you to play. We came here for Commander. Not... This.

    • @N1GHTH4WK986
      @N1GHTH4WK986 5 лет назад +17

      @@ryankirrane8705 You're right. I don't. I'll admit that I misspoke. But I could tell from the rest of the comments that many, if not most of us, aren't enjoying this type of content.

    • @TobiasLeonHaecker
      @TobiasLeonHaecker 5 лет назад +2

      I feel like you but Wizards is paying for this and all other videos. Half of the videos of Game Knights are just extremely good advertisement for products.
      So of course they are making video, which are not as fun for the core commander games but attract maybe new players.
      But maybe a another video series format for beginners would be a way.

    • @N1GHTH4WK986
      @N1GHTH4WK986 5 лет назад

      I feel that I should tell you guys about one of the other shows that I watch that has lots of Commander. Friday Night Paper Fight by Loading Ready Run (or LRR). It's recoded once a week too. They seem to play Commander mostly, but will also play a format called Canadian Highlander.

    • @MisterJ355
      @MisterJ355 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@N1GHTH4WK986stop bitching

  • @ZenithWarlord
    @ZenithWarlord 2 года назад

    Wow that was fun to watch all these Legends play and congrats on the win. I'm just coming back to Magic the gathering. Played my first game in a long while and I was completely overwhelmed by all the technicalities of the game. Just try to get my head around it and learn how to play all over again. It's going to be fun. Thanks

  • @saidjmz5988
    @saidjmz5988 3 года назад

    This is one of my favorite videos ( Beside the Iconic Master match with the Professor and the great Wedge ... and Jimmy ofcourse ) of Command Zone. I always wanted to see Pro-Players playing a kitchen table match, was fun and still, pretty competitive. That was really awesome. Great video. Love it.

  • @BenjaminKlahn
    @BenjaminKlahn 5 лет назад +12

    Man... this would have been so much better if you were playing commander or some kind of real Magic.

  • @arnieandrews
    @arnieandrews 5 лет назад +8

    I was hoping to see competitive commander, it's disappointing to see precon decks

  • @dyliera.velazqueznidoknigh6089
    @dyliera.velazqueznidoknigh6089 3 года назад +1

    Nerds are the happiest people on this Earth. “It is known”. So happy they’re getting to enjoy Magic without the pressure of “I need to win” on their shoulders. Helps out a lot in these trying times with the whole Covid situation.

  • @bwild40
    @bwild40 3 года назад

    Awesome, awesome video. I think I enjoyed this game knight more than almost any other and my favorite part was I did not expect a second game. Awesome Job Command Zone!