Rambling about B550 and X570 motherboards. December 2020
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0:44 & 2:11:03 MSI B550-A Pro
1:53 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme
6:33 slight tangent into ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero & Formula
7:38 back to Aorus Xtreme
8:49 MSI MEG X570 Godlike
12:25 MSI Prestige X570 Creation
18:38 ASRock X570 Creator
22:15 ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero & Dark Hero
28:34 MSI MEG X570 Ace & Unify
32:17 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master
37:54 ASRock X570 Taichi
49:23 ASUS ROG Strix X570-E
53:37 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X
54:53 ASUS ROG Strix X570-I & B550-I
59:47 ASUS ROG Strix B550-E
1:05:51 tangent into SLI, Gigabyte B550 Vision D
1:06:30 more SLI rambles, ASRock B550 Taichi
1:11:25 Actually talking about ASRock B550 Taichi
1:14:15 Actually talking about the Gigabyte B550 Vision D
1:15:00 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra, Elite, Elite Wifi
1:18:25 ASRock X570 PG Velocita
1:20:47 ASRock X570 Steel Legend wifi ax
1:21:40 ASUS X570 TUF Gaming Pro
1:22:09 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi
1:22:37 Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master
1:24:25 ASUS X570 Prime Pro
1:26:10 Gigabyte X570 I Aorus Pro Wifi
1:26:37 MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi
1:30:14 MSI MPG X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi
1:30:35 back to X570 Tomahawk
1:32:57 ASRock X570 Extreme4
1:33:25 Winner of the $220 mobos, ASUS X570 TUF Gaming Pro Wifi, honorable mention B550 Taichi
1:35:35 MSI MPG B550 Gaming Edge Wifi
1:36:10 ASRock X570 Steel Legend
1:37:45 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
1:39:48 & 1:50:17 Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC/V2
1:42:49 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3
1:44:36 ASRock B550M-itx/ac
1:46:05 ASUS Prime X570-P
1:46:58 MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus
1:49:04 MSI X570-A Pro
1:49:14 ASUS TUF Gaming X570 Plus
1:49:28 ASRock B550 PG Velocita = Steel Legend = Extreme4
1:49:54 & 1:52:04 MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk
1:50:38 ASRock B550 Extreme4 & Steel Legend
1:51:24 & 1:58:50 ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus (WiFi)
1:52:58 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 Wifi ax
1:54:06 Gigabyte X570 Gaming X
1:55:01 Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2
1:55:37 MSI MAG B550M Mortar (WiFi)
1:56:42 & 2:02:25 Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro P
1:58:03 Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro
2:00:02 ASRock B550M Steel Legend
2:03:30 ASUS Prime B550M-K
2:03:40 ASRock B550M/ac
2:04:13 Gigabyte X570 UD
2:05:22 Outro - Buildzoid's favorite motherboards
2:08:19 ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (WiFi)
2:12:10 Actual Outro
A Legend!
dude you're insane!
This is what he should've done lol
Incredible! Thank you for rambling to us internet strangers.
That was really needed, thank you so much.
****1:53** 700$ Gigabyte x570 Aorus Xtreme**
(favourite "idc about money" board)
+ rambling about Asus ROG Crosshair 8 Formula 800$ and Hero
[8:53 700$ MSI MEG x570 Godlike]
(Very bad I/O and Lan for the price but unique PCI-Slot Layout)
+ rambling about MSI Prestige x570 Creation 500$ and MSI QVLs
18:59 500$ ASRock x570 Creator
(More Thunderbolt) vs MSI Prestige x570 Creation
22:27 360$ Asus ROG x 570 Crosshair 8 Hero
(Dark Version costs more but better OC - never in Stock)
[28:38 370$ MSI MEG x570-Ace]
(just a worse Unify, but has RGB (yayyy))
compared to:
****28:42** 300$ MSI MEG x570-Unify**
"Optimal x570 board"
****32:20** 370$ Gigabyte x570 Aorus Master**
"Favourite ~370$ OC Board" (Great Memory OC Board, some weirdness with BIOS failing)
****37:32** 300$ ASRock x570 Taichi**
"Best Board for normies" (only limit is 1Gb LAN, Bad Mem OC)
49:23 300$ Asus ROG Strix x570-E Gaming
(better LAN & more SATA than Taichi, overall not that cost effective)
53:32 340$ ASRock x570 Phantom Gaming X
"recolored Taichi with extra 2.5Gb LAN Port"
****54:56** 250$ Asus ROG Strix x570-I Gaming mITX**
"Favourite ITX at MSRP" vs. B550 Version (better Memory OC, worse VRM and I/O)
54:56 Asus ROG Strix B550-I Gaming mITX
* just so you can find it more easily *
59:52 270$ Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming
(EU Prices ~170-200$)"Kinda like this board @EU price (SLI Support, 6xSATA, ok I/O)
# SLI Support mentioned for x8+x8 functionality i guess#
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~1:00:00 "If you just want a cheap Board with VRM to support your CPU go here"
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1:05:51 260$ Gigabyte B550 Vision D
(Supports SLI, good PCI Layout, unique white looks)"no stupid GB dual bios, Nice Postcode location"
****1:06:37** 300$ ASrock B550 Taichi**
discount 230$ (no SLI License, 8 SATA ports), "at 230$ great, at 300$ bad", # Who tf cares about SLI??#
> 1:14:50 rambling about low end Gigabyte boards stupid Dual Bios functionality on B550 (rare) vs X570 (basically everywhere)
> 1:15:26 rambling about ASUS Memory OC and (high) pricing
> more rambling about Gigabyte weirdness and some Asus board characteristics
# damn it is hard to timestamp him:D #
[1:18:28 270$ ASRock x570 PG Velocita]
"very misleading PCI topology, but good Memory OC"
[1:20:45 270$ ASRock x570 Steel Legend WiFi ax]
"should be 200$, this is dumb"(same as PG Velocita basically)
[1:22:10 250$ Gigabyte x570 Aorus Pro WiFi]
"Obnoxious GB Dual Bios, SLI Support, just get the B550 Version"
[1:22:39 250$ Gigabyte B550 Aurous Master]
"Obnoxious GB Dual Bios, can't recommend, annoying to work with"
1:24:26 240$ Asus Prime x570-Pro
(SLI, PCI Switches, only 6 Sata Ports) "really solid option"
1:26:38 220$ MSI MAG x570 Tomahawk WiFi
"doesn't make sense as x570, otherwise solid" (Good OC support, Great VRM Heatsink, ok I/O)
****1:27:35** 220$ Asus TUF Gaming x570-Pro WiFi**
(direct comparison to MSI Tomahawk, adds Bios Flashback (standard for MSI))
1:30:14 230$ MSI MPG x570 Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi
(sacrifices some VRM Quality for better featureset) "kinda like eh, pretend it doesn't exist)
# 1:30:44 "it's a shame you can't ctrl-f a video" gotchu bro, should get paid for this tho#
> 1:31:00 rambling on how you should choose a motherboard, what a motherboard even represents
1:32:58 230$ ASRock x570 Extreme 4
"more expensive TUF Pro"
1:35:36 190$ MSI MPG B550 Gaming Edge
"why would i pay 190$ for B550, just get the x570 TUF Plus"
1:36:00 190$ ASRock x570 Steel Legend
(8 Sata Ports, no troubleshoot LEDs, no BIOS flashback) # compares this to ASUS TUF Plus#
****1:36:00** 180$ Asus TUF Gaming x570-Plus**
"Baseline X570 board"
1:37:48 195$ Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
(Bad Memory OC, internal Type C)
****1:39:48** 170$ Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC**
(save 20$ if you do not need x570 stuff like extra drive bandwith etc)
1:42:50 190$ ASRock x570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3 mITX
"i don't like the rear I/O (thunderbolt 3)
> 1:43:10 rambling on x570 ITX boards, "below 140$ there is only miserable boards + examples"
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# BZ wants to wrap up fast here and skips a lot, basically saying "Just get the 180$ TUF instead", because stuff has bad VRMS and very limited featuresets.
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1:55:00 160$ Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2
(Good VRM, Memory OC only ok with 2 DIMMS, 4 Sata Ports)
****1:55:35** 157$ MSI MAG B550M Mortar mATX**
"best mATX OC board" (not great Memory OC, 6 Sata Ports, good PCI Layout, shit I/O)
1:58:50 155$ (discounted) Asus TUF Gaming B550-Plus
"reasonable for the discounted price" (decent I/O, no troubleshoot LEDs, bad Memory OC)
2:00:00 130$ ASRock B550M Steel Legend mATX
"featureset not bad for the price" (slightly hot VRM, no BIOS flashblack)
2:02:22 120$ Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro-P mATX
"similar to Steel Legend"
[[2:03:31 110$ Asus Prime B550M-K mATX]]
"why does this exist, why does it cost so much, it is terrible" # double brackets coz extra bad #
2:03:39 115$ ASRock B550M/ac
"kinda make sense if you need the WiFi"
[2:04:58 160$ Gigabyte x570 UD]
"This doesn't make sense, u can get b550 with more m.2 slots" (bad VRM (BZ tested this))
>2:05:00 conclusion
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Legend:
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Buildzoid's personal favourite for given category **...**
not recommended board [...]
Most important functions: (...)
Builzoid notes: "..."
My notes: #...#
edit: Format
I like these time stamps even better
@@ryanwallace983 thanks man^^ i wanna come back in a month or so and use these notes to find myself a mobo again^^
Thank you
This is perfect!
Wish I had know this before buying my x570 master, not that is a bad mobo, temps and oc was excellent but I had the weird issue that it stopped powering up so I did RMA on it and got the MSI unify, very happy for now but well, I was early adopter so you can never know.
first
EDIT consider this a replacement for the AM4 discussion livestream. Also I am sick and tired of answering questions about motherboards.
Have you tested to see which of your boards the best memory OC board between the unify X and the master or are they close enough that you couldn't really be bothered to do it?
How's the finding a new apartment coming along?
yeah everybody needs recommend when you need help..what a shame
oi. Are you using some addon in chrome to autozoom?
@@NotThatGuyJD it's more an issue of the master's dual bios getting in the way
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking ah that lovely feature.
"i need to make this ivdeo not compete with gn's mobo roundup"
ya bz i think it being 2:22:03 accomplishes that mission superbly lel
yeah that was the plan.
Put so much info in that people cant find the gems.
@@wobblysauce well people were complaining that the AM4 livestream is gone. So this is like the stream just without a live audience.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking And personal details.
@@wobblysauce well thats just kinda weird
1:53 Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME
5:42 ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
8:50 MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
12:16 MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION
Time stamps:
18:37 ASRock X570 CREATOR
22:27 Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
28:33 MSI MEG X570 ACE / UNIFY
32:18 Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER
37:30 ASRock X570 Taichi
49:23 Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
53:36 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X
54:53 Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming
59:46 Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming
1:05:47 Gigabyte B550 VISION D
1:06:37 ASRock B550 Taichi
1:18:25 ASRock X570 PG Velocita
1:20:46 ASRock X570 Steel Legend WI-FI
1:22:09 Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO WI-FI
1:22:39 Gigabyte B550 AORUS MASTER
1:23:28 Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO
1:24:24 Asus PRIME X570-PRO
1:27:34 Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO WI-FI
1:29:50 MSI MPG B550 / X570 Gaming PRO CARBON WI-FI
1:32:58 ASRock X570 Extreme4
1:34:30 MSI MAG X570 TOMOHAWK WI-FI
1:35:32 MSI MPG B550 Gaming EDGE WI-FI
1:37:39 Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
1:39:44 Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC
1:42:47 ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/TB3
1:44:30 ASRock B550M-ITX/ac
1:46:04 Asus PRIME X570-P
1:46:55 MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS
1:49:14 Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS
1:49:27 ASRock B550 PG Velocita
1:52:58 ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING 4 WI-FI
1:53:15 Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX
1:54:05 Gigabyte X570 Gaming X
1:54:58 Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2
1:55:35 MSI MAG B550 MORTAR Micro/WI-FI
1:57:55 Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO
1:58:43 Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS
1:59:41 ASRock B550 Steel Legend Micro
2:02:16 Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO-P Micro
2:03:21 Asus PRIME B550M-K Micro
2:03:37 ASRock B550M/ac Micro
2:03:51 ASRock B550 PHANTOM GAMING 4
2:04:09 Gigabyte X570 UD
*Outro Favourites*
2:05:20 MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION
2:05:36 MSI MEG X570 UNIFY
2:07:08 Asus TUF GAMING X570 PRO WI-FI
2:07:40 Gigabyte B550 VISION D
2:08:16 Asus ROG Strix B550-F GAMING WI-FI
2:08:56 CREATION / Taichi / UNIFY / VISION D
2:09:54 Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO V2
2:10:17 Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
2:10:57 MSI B550-A PRO
2:19:27 Asus ROG Strix B550-E GAMING
No mention of msi b550 itx. Damn.
15:18
It's ok, my RAM, I still love you even if buildzoid doesn't.
OMG YES. Just watched all your AM4 content and everything is from like a year ago, LOVE IT
I have been waiting for this, thank you!
just 10 minutes into this video and I want to thank you. Ive already changed my mind on a board that I had settled on buying after spending the whole day researching. Thank you.
Hands down these are my favorite videos from you.
Thank you for the detailed round up. Thanks to your reviews and VRM videos I am very happy with my x570 Unify, which I got for 250usd.
What a great video. Thank you for making this!
Awesome rundown! I learned a lot and it helped me make decision for a new mobo! Many thanks!
Thanks for all the motherboard research you do, Buildzoid. You're my go-to when deciding which one to get. Really looking hard at moving from my X570 Elite to the Master before upgrading CPU, GPU, and possibly RAM.
Thank you for all the videos. I switched recently from a Ryzen 1700 to a 3900x. I had a cheap B350 board which seems to be a little overburdened by the 1700 so i bought a new board for the 3900x. Searched for the manual, technical details and for your video about this board before i bought it to check if it is decent.
I embrace and enjoy all the rambling. all of it
love your ramblings!
"You're smarter than me, I admit you're a better motherboard than I am" xD
With what Some people consider as possible genders i wouldn't be surprised that if Motherboard Was 1 of those.
if I had an hour to live I'd spend it watching your videos coz it feels like an eternity.
When you fall asleep to buildzoid videos you know you might have caught the PC building itch
Opposite of a waste of time bro. Watched the whole thing and helps my decision making immensely. Amazing content and much appreciated! I don’t even remember watching an hour video let alone a 2hr one 😂. I hope you’re having a great holiday season mate!
Thanks for the video man. Super helpful! Subcribed.
This is the perfect video to listen to while building a customer a gaming PC.
The perfect video for a cold Sunday morning.
we must be fun at parties
@@h0rk3d if u come to my parties u are
I like ramble through :)
Just got the MSI B550-A Pro, pretty happy with it!
2 hours and 20 rambling, im in.
Thanks for this!
I will sit through this entire video even though I already bought a board two months ago.
ASRock X570 Taichi - 3rd M.2 slot is actually tied with the bottom PCIe x16 slot. So you can always have 8 SATA drives connected, but either the 3rd M.2 or the 3rd PCIe x16. They also have a Thunderbolt AIC that has to go into the bottom slot, so if you use that card, you can't use the 3rd M.2.
Just bought a x570-A Pro. Wasn't much options in my price range on Newegg the other morning when I bought. Bought along with a 3600, 512gb Team Group(will be replacing with a better drive in the coming months, this will end up in my guest pc I'll be building next month) NVME drive, 16gb 3600mhz CL16(wanted to go for 32gb with two sticks, but just gonna settle with getting another pair of 8's in a couple weeks. Mainly blame this on stock and prices at time I purchased)
Gonna be pairing with the poor man's Aresgame AGV500(500w 80+ Bronze) for a short while until I get a much better psu. Gonna case it all in a Musetex Mesh.
Picked up a used Sapphire Nitro RX 480 8GB for $100.
My Rosewill Lightning 1300w psu finally took my old system with it, so had to basically build a new machine. Was running the good ol' i7-3930k @ 4.6Ghz paired with a Red Devil RX 480 8GB.
1:31:25 Yes lowest possible price with the most or all the things you need for a motherboard to choose which to buy
even if i didn't watch the whole thing i recommend this video :D
I chose the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro WiFi MB because of the aesthetics, the rear I/O, the minimum RGB, the VRM cooling, the location of the 1st M.2 slot above the top PCI-E slot, multiple fan headers and of course WiFi. The only con is the chipset cooling fan and it's location. With my 2.5 slot 2070 Super Gaming OC video card installed 2/3rds of the chipset fan and half of the 2nd M.2 slot is covered up. Right now my chipset temp is 60.5 C. I haven't had any problems with this MB even updating the BIOS(s) is easy.
MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi -Good VRM, nice lighting, good OC, rear IO ok... I got it for £186, with Vallhalla, Farcry 6 and £25 steam code. I'd say hell of a deal.
Really really nice deal.
I usually watch your videos before i go to sleep, and i have to say, they are so relaxing!
You are on the same level of the 2 little indians digging a house with pool included on RUclips
Anyway, thank you for your sharing of knowledge!
Buildzoid's subconsious bios really grinds the Taichi's gears
I'll enjoy it to the very last second
that's a very intimidating video
just buildzoid things I guess
hi buildzoid
for the x570 dark hero.
the singlecore/multicore overclocking on the fly is pretty much usefull for like blender etc.
the ingest of data, before the render itself, is basically singlecore. so the 5 ghz on a 5950 x on ingest and then all core 4,7 or higher on the render itself, will help a little with time.
that translates with all programs which use a single core to load respurces and multicore for the actual workload.
500€ in austria, we have way higher taxes than elsewhere :-/
I so regret buying the MSI Meg Ace LOL. Thank you for the detail on better options.
26:20 they are sort by date my friend! It says right above.
1:42:49 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3: As he says, if you want a mini ITX with Thunderbolt 3, this is your only choice. And, as he says, the I/O panel is not great. But I needed TB3 on my mITX, and it works. So if the rest of the video is of that quality, it's a good video.
Interesting overview. I got my x570 Extreme4 for around 170 bucks brand new from a local store. So I didn't really had a choice. With newer BIOS memory oc became worse.
Hello, 39 year old normie here. Man I love your rambling videos BuildZoid, I laugh take note and learn from you. I want to thank you because I'm sure my knowledge about buying a motherboard has improved I considere myself as a normie plus. Thanks again and hope to see the Gamer Nexus video.
B550 Master is a beast at everything you said. The board is solid. The only issues I have had is with the Intel Bluetooth chipset. If you use standby the Bluetooth doesnt wake up and you'll need to power down completely (no power to board). This is actually a known issue with the Intel chipset where it doesnt sleep well.
I was forced to buy ASRock X570 Taichi, it was the only MB that was available when i bought my 3900x. And it has seemed pretty good, no issues (thank goodness).
1:22:37. What a wonderful thing to discover after I've already bought my board.
before i watch this video, i knew its going to be helpful because im waiting to get a x570 after i get my hands on 5900x, already have 3080 strix oc :D
Keep in mind that many of the boards with 3 m.2 slots, tend to have many compromises, for example, some will have undesirable behavior, such as one of the m.2 slots sharing bandwidth with the PCIe X4 slot as well as 2 of the SATA ports depending on which type of m.2 drive is installed.
I plan to use my PC as a high end workstation. No video editing, but will be running lots of VM's and hence looking at fast nvmes. The vision D is one of the best mobos. The ASUS (including Dark Hero) do not have a rich list of QVL for 4x 16 GB ram and seems to restrict most 16 GB or higher RAM sticks to 2 DIMM slots. E.G the Dark Hero does not support BL2K16G36C16U4RL Crucial which almost every other manufacturer supports. So yes, ASUS still has to ramp up their memory support (support just 1 vendor with 1x4GB for 5100 doesn't really count!)
I bought the X570 Creation because of the Rear I/O layout and the plethora of connections. I don't do much OCing anyway, only the XMP profile on the memory.
You talk about the battery, sometimes I will turn off the power from the wall out-let and find the time has changed when starting back up.
I wish you did a Christmas shopping advice video for this year with A520 B450 B550 and X570 boards. All of those chipsets have strong contenders in their respective price ranges, it's hard to decide what to buy at the moment.
You're right about the Gigabyte bios having a lot of issues. I have an X570 Master and I loved it with the 3900XT on the 2X bios. But with my new 5950X on the 3X bios, it suffers from multiple issues. The most bizarre one I'm running into is the per CCX overclock only affecting half the cores. Half boost to what I set the OC to and half stay at base clock.
😂 If you set the video to 0.25 speed it is actually reflecting me spending four hours on watching this back and forth.
Just kidding. As always you're doing a great job at this and it helps a fuck ton to select motherboards out of all this messy lineups. I really appreciate your help in this matter. Keep it up 👌👌👌👋
1:08:44 The Asus Rog Strix B550-E does have SLI support, it's in the multi-gpu support, right above the expansion slots you looked at.
Man needs to use Ctrl F like wtf haha
01:10:50 he eventually found it:)
Hey BZ, there is any way that you can test the Beta BIOS of the X370 Taichi with your 5950X? Or the VRM is not capable of?
Could you give technical details about that "new memory topology"? Is it still T topology vs daisy chain? Which revision is which?
The Vision looks really interesting from how you describe it. If that bottom PCI-e slot can be converted to more than 2 SATA3 slots, it seems like a fine compromise.
I think the Asus prime x570 pro looks beautiful (always been a fan of white layouts) and is a relatively good price but bear in mind it doesn't have flashback so you will need an old CPU if you are going to put one of the new CPU's in it
can you tell me the difference between the b550 aorus pro v2 vs v1?
& the b550 aorus pro vs AC?
As someone who has built thousands of systems working for a system integrator, software needs to be part of this discussion. I'd spend more on an ROG board, specifically for the software, even if it meant -1 m.2. Especially considering a good 95% of people who will never use this hardware to it's full potential, it's best for people to just purchase a solid reliable board, rather than actually worrying about topologies, or achieving 4000+ Mhz ram...
What you mentioned about the master being your favorite 'price isn't a concern' option, and then saying that sometimes it randomly stops working for 10mins at a time and needs to be reset... That shit is nightmare fuel to anyone in the SI community. Companies will stop carrying certain boards because of issues like this. From my 9 years of building ~2700 - 3000 gaming systems and workstations - I would never in my life recommend Gigabyte, or Asrock as a viable option, especially for anyone who's machine is critical for work. Also Asrock bios looks like someone's kid designed it in MS paint.
It's great to a perspective from a motherboard reviewer who get's 1 unit of a board and gives their opinion, and there are also lots of other different things to consider when thinking about why certain boards have certain features. Fabbing a board design is not by any means cheap, so I think it would be really great for your viewer base to be able to watch you interview some people who actually design these products. I've had the pleasure of meeting some of them (mostly from ASUS/MSI) and they aren't stupid people! Very interesting to hear their perspective as well!
Great video
I mean yeah while all that you said is true, it is very irrelevant! Just look at the name of this channel and it may clue you in. This channel is made for the people who do overclocking and those who get hardware specifically for that.
45:10 "You're smarter than me, I admit you're a better motherboard than I am"
I am happy with x570 elite, working fine with 3900x and 4x16gb 3600mhz cl16.
My z370 gameing 7 did that, delt with it for over a year 😊
Im not sure if Im mentally ready for this video
X570Xtreme rev1.0 in 4x8GB configuration maximizes around 4200Mts, tested both on 3800x & 4650G Pro, 2x8GB it does 4800Mts+ with the right kits of memory.
FCLK will depend on CPU but the board gives trouble with 4xdimms regardless of CPU used for frequency around 4200Mts.
Renoir can do it 1:1 4200/2100 which is nice.
You forgot the BEST feature about the Dark Hero BuildZoid. No chipset fan = dream come true for silent ninjas like me. :p
Hello! ive seen your PCB breakdown videos and they are really intresting, but i have a question, what is in terms of power delivery, the best affordable motherboard to overclock the integrated graphics of an AMD APU, since there is no other viable affordable option for me. i hope you see this.
hey i have a Question for you what kind of Fluke thermometer to read temps for ln2 Nitrogen ? i cant find any good one want to read atleast -196 C Thanks a lot man
Love wasting time with you buildzoid! 😂 I have an Asus B550-E gaming arriving tomorrow actually and now I'm worried about the memory oc capabilities. My x570 unify has to go back to MSI for some fixes... Which is on me, it's a great board! Tempted to get the unify x but also really wanting to try a different board vendor, so Asus it is! Thought about the vision though too.
Bought msi b550 a-pro, runs 5600x and 200mhz pbo boost 4850mhz.
Just works.
Hey question BuildZoid, I have the asus prime x570 p, running a 3600 & 3070. So my PSU only came with a 8 pin connector for the CPU, I’m looking to get the 5800x. Do I NEED the extra 4pin 12v for overclocking for either CPU’s?
hey buildzoid. in this cinematic movie u mentioned that u can read the mobo-pcb layer number off the mobo in the low left corner of the the mobo (for asus + msi).. what do i hv to read there (i´ve got an MSI B450 Pro Carbon AC)? thx mate
I'm with you BZ about USB and SATA ports, it bloody awful how many mid/high end boards have awful backpanels with as few as 4 USB ports(1 for keyboard, 1 for mouse, 1 for external drive, leaving 1 free for maybe a webcam, wow great) and only 4 SATA ports (personally I need 7 atleast).
Choosing a board for my 1st AM4 system was a damn nightmare too, I finally settled on a crosshair 8 hero because I found a good deal, it has plenty of usb and sata and hopefully get a £55 rebate when ASUS finally coughs up (I know they do honour rebates, but are very slow to do so, typically 4+ months).
You have no idea the smile on my face when you said the X570 Tomahawk was dethroned by the TUF Gaming Pro. I banked on the TUF Pro when I saw it launched mainly because of the Intel 2.5G LAN (Rev. 3 so no issues that Rev 1+2 had) and because it was actually in stock unlike the MSI. I also prefer Asus bios over MSI. I really wish you could get some photos of the VRM and go in-depth on it to see how it stacks up on that front.
@ 1:58:50 The ASUS TUF B550M Plus version of that board is surprisingly good with the latest BIOS update for Memory Control... although I leave it at the Default XMP(D.O.C.P on) 3200 CL14 settings. Pairs well with a 3800XT :)
When Buildzoid says "rear IO" you think of the back panel of a motherboard.
With others you're unsure.
I was here for the MSI x570 Unify and whether he still likes it. It’s 275 euro’s in the Netherlands, but out of stock until Januari.
I got the MSI Creation Board paired w/ a 5950X + 128gbs of 3600mhz RAM.
Can confirm how hard this is to overclock. The RAM kit I got is not compatible yet, w/ the 5950X so I keep getting crashes on any auto OC I do, only manual OC works, but I only have time to do that on the RAM, got it up to 3200mhz.
Definitely got this for the i.o. I am using 90% of them to capacity, and the USB Type C is very handy for VR plugging. Don't regret grabbing the board, but likely gonna have to replace my AIO and jump on the custom loop cooling. 5950X runs way too warm.
1:28:00 you say Asus fixed memory topology on the x570 tuf pro by seeing from the products page it is supporting 5100 O.C. I'm checking the x570 tuf gaming plus products page and it also supports that speed. Which x570 board from Asus had worse memory topology?
I'm confused about what you said about running 4 x 16gb of bdie at high clock speed being really difficult. I thought b-die was supposed to be the fastest ram. Now based on what you said around the 21 minute mark in this video, that the memory controller can't keep up with b-die. I don't understand. Now what should I use in my build if I'm looking for max overclock?
Looks like I should have watched this when it was new, I've been running an Asrock X570 Taichi for over a year now lol
Is there an Error Correcting Code memory type/brand you would recommend for any of the 570s that support it
It seems like a niche/shadow topic and I wonder if it would help for people doing things like rendering or simulation.
I've been looking at X570 Tuf Pro since it was released and thought it looked like a really great middle of the road option. I think the upgrades they added over the X570 Tuf Plus Wi-Fi make it worth the added cost! JMO! 🧐🤔😎
Look at PCIE options before buying
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@@bigal2688 it's only good if 16x+4x is enough for you, you can't do 8x+8x+4x (no slot, lol), and you can't do 8x, 4x/4x with bifurcation (2nd slot goes to the chipset)
The Asrock Taichi would be my my pick, you talk about crazy overclocking mobos, I find it hard to believe any of those extremely expensive mobos would get better oc results than the Taichi.
So do you think its better to buy the X570 Asus vs the B550 for ITX?
Im looking for a B550 ITX and I dont like any of the 4 models :( Maybe the Asrock PG
So do you have any other thoughts on the MSI B550 Gaming Edge Wifi? I mean from what you did say about it, it seems pretty alright.
I got the tomahawk it was cheaper by 30€ than the TUF where I live. Also has rear io shield preinstalled. Used BIOS flashback for 5800x support.
Good evening first of all nice video ial looking for a X570 MB i have the x470 crosshair v11 and looking to get a new motherboard what type of RBG rams can i get for my board and whats a good MB with atl ease 6 USBs with wif Thanks
How does the b550m mortar compare to the b450m mortar max? Cos I remember you liked that one last year
2:07:01 ctrl+shift+T reopens the last closed tab and again it opens the tab closed prior to that, like a undo for closed tabs.
Got an ASUS Prime X570-P for $127 this week. I feel good about it.
Would love to see you get the Strix B550-e and test how the memory OC actually does. My old B450-f already does 4600MHz+ so I'd be surpised if the B550-e didn't go quite a bit further.
Is there any other differences between the old B550 Aorus Pro and V2 other than the USB-C header thing?
The real best mobos of 2020 vid
1:58 ok pretend i didnt say that
Thx for the admittedly lengthy and sometimes confusing overview, enjoyed the ride. Would be interested in what you think about the refreshed Asus B450 mobos such as the B450-F gaming II. Think there s a lot of ppl who still have older chips or are looking for any kinda upgrade/ downgrade path that 450s offer. Personally I m far more interested in 450s coz I got two 1st gen chips...and I know others who have as well. Asus claim to have changed the backplate and the Mosfet layout is defo changed (compared it) but I m way to much of a pleb to properly judge that. My googling led me to think that the B450-F Gaming II refresh might actually be just as good as the B450 Carbon Pro Max or even better than the Mortar Max that you praised in another vid.
1:41:00 but thats for the third pcie slot. Second pciex4 shares bandwith with second m2, but u can use all sata ports
Does B550 Aorus Pro v2 fix the issue of v1? There were some catastrophic problems with mobo killing ram, dropping USB, random freezes, etc.