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Thank YOU both so much for replying back. As much as I Love dogs ( the Working line),and I do have experience ( the German shepherd breed) even obedience training, I'd LOVE another opportunity to love, care and simply have a companion again,I know it's more than just feeding. God bless you, Greg and your family. For what you've shared, All the HARD work involved it's truly The Lord's guidance along with Faith and HARD WORK 😇🙏🙏🙏. "THE DEVIL IS A LIAR"🙏🙏
As a breeder myself, we don't. What do you think you will avoid if you did? We encourage our buyers to return our pups if by any chance if it was a mistake getting a pup, whether it's due to the pup or even a family situation. It's a way to keep track of our productions.
Charge! Please, not many will pay you to take a puppy back. I suspect they'll just abandon the poor thing or put it in a shelter. RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS will take back any animal that they created; you owe it to the animal.
@@reneethomas286what you just wrote is why the breeder above said they don’t charge. You shouldn’t have replied to this person’s comment it should have been a general comment because he said they don’t charge for the dogs they breed.
@@reneethomas286exactly why would I pay you to take a dog back that I clearly and can’t keep or have time. If you as the breeder have the dogs best interests. You gotta take it back. Cus first the owner is gonna try to sell it, then give try and give it away, the to a shelter or worse. Stop trying to make money off of everything
All good breeders should take back their children. That separates them from a backyard breeder and also from a puppy mill I thank you for this video Erika it was long overdue. Take care and God bless you and your family 🙏🏾
Old guy missing the companionship of a dog. Buried mine years ago. Both rescue they sorta picked me. Broke my heart to loose them. They were not puppies when I got them. You can't imagine what they got me through. Watching your channel warms my heart. Gives me hope. ❤❤❤
Hummm I'm on the fence. On one hand you charge the fee and it may help recouped the time and money you have to put into Training away bad habits. But on the other hand you don't want to see your pup's going to the pound so the own can avoid paying a fee. You have a great fan base and could potentially re-home them to a family who would rather have a grown dog and speed pass the puppy stage. 🤷♀️
People want Cane Corsos because they think they’re cool dogs, and they are, but most people have no idea the hard work and care they require. Mine was a rescue at 9 mos. from one of my husband’s friends that were moving. He brought him home and I immediately said, “Oh hell nah!!!”😂 Well, he’s 3 now and I take good care of him but HE IS A LOT OF WORK!
That's common with dogs period. Humans buy dogs for all type of superficial, impulse reasons. Just vet potential buyers properly. I have an Akita. They are hard to care for. She is a female. I wouldnt sell Akita pups to any Tom dick or Harry. Samoyed is another difficult breed people buy cause it's "pretty".
As the owner of a 2-year-old 110 lb. male Cane Corso, I recommend that part of your screening process be a mandatory virtual Cane Corso Bootcamp, which includes a required site visit to the homestead. This must be completed before taking up a puppy (or, instead, a little soldier waiting for orders on when to defend and serve). By doing this, you can better screen potential adopters looking for lifelong companions and family guardians. To compensate for your and your family's time spent educating a prospective owner about the pros, cons, and other aspects of owning this fantastic "solider" breed, I believe the BootCamp should be an additional cost to the purchaser besides the puppy purchase price. Additionally, I think the stunning young woman you work with to train Cane Corsos will be a valuable resource for the Bootcamp. You should be able to charge the customer appropriately if they fulfilled all the requirements, came to the BootCamp, bought a puppy, and returned the adult or puppy to you for rehoming. I hope you find my recommendations helpful to you. After Kimichi was returned for rehoming, we recently bought her from you, and we are grateful that you chose us to be her new family. If we could have, we would have taken in ALL of your furry offspring, including the feathered ones.
@TwelveTitansKennels you gotta put a few tiny homes on your homestead for them to stay and work them out for a day or two. Just like schools send kids home with the fake babies from health class. Some Just aren't going to make it!!!
You guys are doing a great job: some people are just stupid and if they think they know better THEN they should do better. Love your passion and videos and we here shall always support you!
I haven't finished watching yet but almost finished I just wanted to pause n let you know you I love watching due to your family's journey but I just have to say you are one smart cookie, you stop analyz, look at all sides if the issue, and you come up with a reasonable answer. What I love about you is you always look at what's best for puppy's ❤ Amend that we have such a beautiful soul in you n you share your journey we may not all own dogs like you, but I feel you give us lessons that we can apply to other areas of our lives. ❤
There are pros and cons to charging a restocking fee. The biggest cons I see is the puppy ending up with another person who may end up abusing him/her, the puppy ending up in the shelter and being put to sleep. I learned that for every liter of ten puppies that are sold/given away, one will end up in a good loving home. I also found out that animals that are abandoned/returned have the same psychological effects as a three year old child. It’s a lot to think about on both fronts. People know they can’t afford to take and care for an animal but I believe it’s a “status” symbol, especially when they can get something from someone that is very well known. Just my thoughts.
I know it is work and you have to be committed to taking care of a Corso. Proper exercise, diet, clean up, maintenance, and just general care is work. I do believe in legitimate extenuating circumstances, no fees should be charged. Those circumstances could be death, maybe job or home loss, or even health issues for the owner. Not just be because it is decided an owner simply doesn’t want the dog anymore.
This to me is a simple fix, like all employees do on an application, they demand that you have an emergency contact if something goes wrong. I believe that not only the buyer should be interviewed, but there should be a minimum of 3 contingency plan members that should be interviewed as well just in case a married or relationship goes wrong or financial hardship occurs. If there’s not at least 3 creditable backups that agree to take the dog if It doesn’t workout with the owner the puppies should not be sold and each back up should be interviewed as well. I’ll call it a “3 tier system and you can check to see if the buyer tried to reach out to his contingency members before taking back the pup’s. Just simple thinking ahead to insure continuity of care is provided 👊🏾❤️
Control what you can control, Ericka. God will do the rest. You have a good vetting process. Fact is, people lie. Taking the pups back from people who lack the means, the dedication, the will, and the love (need all four) to keep the pups will always be the better choice for you and the best choice for the pup(s). God bless you, Greg, and the rest of the homestead. Stay safe. Stay hydrated. Stay motivated!
As an outsider, you often have a rash opinion of what you should have done. You see the beautiful girls who are given back for whatever reason. Personally, I think that if you have a dog like that (even though you know beforehand what breed you're getting) and you can't handle it or can't keep the dog, then it's a blessing that you take them back. But dogs are not objects. They become family members who live with their families and are suddenly torn from this world. This breaks their hearts and it takes time for them to accept their new life. So it's really a blessing that you are there for them, give them understanding, new carers, respect, education and above all love and a home. ♥
Very well said. You're correct, it can be very hard on the dogs and not always that easy to rehabilitate them because they do develop strong attachments to their owners. Thank goodness both our girls were able to bounce back and trust again
This seems to be a touchy subject, but there’s multiple variables: Sometimes it just simply doesn’t work out. Whether it’s circumstances, behavior, etc. A lot of people choose to hold onto dogs, instead of doing what’s best for them & their selves Charging for a return, is a crazy concept. Most Owner’s are reluctant to return, even w/ a strict Contract, because they want to re coup what they spent This is definitely a topic, I’ll have to make content about
Hello I have had my corso for a year now and has it been hard yes but also rewarding! Just my opinion … I have been knocked down and pulled down the street. I figured out how to get my corso to understand me and for me to understand him (training). I want to do what’s best for him you need to realize yes he is a big strong and I mean strong ( 125lbs) at 1 year old corso but still a PUPPY he needs to learn as well as I do. I’m not going to hold it against him!!! Twelve Titans Kennels handled it with dignity and grace !!!! I also think people need to learn the strength of your loving big Corso puppy. As far as charging I think the family did right by the puppies by returning them to the homestead. I vote no. ( just my opinion least they were not abandoned! ) Love The Twelve Titans Kennels they are wonderful and compassionate!!!!! 💕🤗
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. They are definitely strong dogs and they don’t even realize it. I love your dedication, understanding and commitment to your baby! Bravo. Bravo 👏
I think you do a great job at striving to pick the right owners for your pups. Of all the puppies you have been blessed to sell as far as I can remember you have only had 2 returned, sounds like an amazing percentage to me! A kinda wish you could do a “restocking” fee but I wouldn’t want someone to get rid of a dog to avoid paying the fee. Better it go back so that it can be taken care of properly. In my humble non professional opinion 😉
Thank you! We actually had two other returns but we were able to immediately rehome them with existing Titan Families who jumped at the chance to take them. These were the first to actually stay with us. But I believe you're right, anyone giving up on the dog is not going to pay a restock fee at that point. I think the other commentator mentioned charging it UPFRONT. And I really think people would pay it but when they get in this situation they would STILL give up. *Sigh*
PS I've been watching your wonderful well-organized breeding for a while. Your t's are crossed and your eyes are dotted. As the saying goes ," EVERYTHING IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY, & " LOOKS ARE DECIEVING ".which is why one plans ahead of time. The 5 Ps,"PROPER PLANNING PREVENTS POOR PERFORMANCE ( DECISIONS). On the response of a buyer.
100% right it's people. On the other hand, we need people to be able to be breeders. I feel blessed to be able to breed. Events like returns we just count on our breeder friends to vent our frustrations. Great video. Cane Corso de Noriega
Thank you for making this video. I don't think many breeders are willing to be this transparent. I wholeheartedly agree that it's PEOPLE. For me, your videos and the videos of others made me realize that as smitten as I am with the breed, having one would not fit into my lifestyle. I had to be honest with myself. We as humans seem to have trouble being honest with ourselves at times. I agree with you that dogs have feelings and taking one on without really doing your homework and/or being over confident in your ability to handle them is so wrong/sad for the dog. Love the channel!
Erica, I love your intro music, this is an original I love it. I agree with you on all points, PEOPLE. I love dogs of all sizes, they give you so much love and trust how can you just dismiss them. I'm of an age that I know I can't take care of a dog that size, I've always owned Saint Bernards and loved every slobbering minute. Continue to do what you do Erica, you will get all the support you need from your viewers. Blessing to you and your family and homestead.
I love how you handle everything with such class and grace. Nothing in this world is a 100% and anybody who doesn’t understand that is just a hater and an internet troll. You guys have helped me out so much with my cane corso! My goal is to oneday buy a corso from you but I want to make sure I’m ready for another 1 so I don’t ever have to return the dog.
My ❤goes out to y’all, I hate they had to go through that, but at least they brought them back to someone who loves them and will take great care of them ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Great video….. it helped me understand what is on the minds of breeders! I love the breed and definitely will do more research on them! Love the videos, new intro song, I see the investments being made and am excited to see what’s next! Keep up the great work!
Erika.... its the people and commitment. When I adopted my Cane Corso /Presa Canario mix from my local shelter, he was a repeat offender of running away from his home. It was so bad that animal control knew him at sight. When i got him, they only thing he escaped from was his crate... he wasn't about that life! LOL!! However he never attempted to run away from my home. As a matter of fact he would never cross the door threshold without my permission. He never once tried me and he was going on 4 when i got him. The CC and PC are two formidable breeds and i got the best of both in him. Unfortunately i had to put him down after 5 years due to his health. I dropped thousands on him before i did. You had to reevaluate, train and whatever else in order to see if the dog could even be with another family and that cost. Yes breeders should take back their products but people should also think twice. These situations/circumstances were already brewing before the dog entered their home.
Erica i think that your heart would absolutely break if one of your babies ended up in a dog pound or abandoned and left to fend for themselves. So i say no, don't charge, and hope that people understand that this great dog is now part of their family.
I would love to have audi! I don't care what anyone says, I think you all do an amazing job with your dogs and your selling process. At the end of the day you can never predict what people will do. I love dogs and have had them my entire life. I plan to get a cane corso from you all. A cane corso has been my dream dog for a long time and I have done tons of research but I have never had one but I definitely want one! You all are amazing!
I think a good breeder should take their babies back no matter the circumstances. By taking them back they will be in safe hands. You don’t want your babies put in harm’s way like a shelter or backyard breeder. They deserve to come back home if things don’t work out. People go through hardships and trauma. We as humans can work ourselves back to a comfortable place. A dog or puppy cannot do anything on their own. They will always need a good human to take care of them. So this being said take your babies back. 💜
You are ABSOLUTELY Right at 11:07 in the video. Love the pups. They are beautiful. How could youreturn a family member? Have been looking and learning about the Corsos for two years. I wouldn't know where to get one in my area.
First...every one cant become a member of the Twelve Titan Family and the fact that they were even blessed with this privilege is huge. I think part of being a Titan is having that good deep down feeling knowing you can give the dog back to where they are loved&safe. There is absolutely positively no way to know if a baby is coming back. Things happen and its better to come back to you and not the shelter. Your vetting process is better than most. So, sorry they have lost out on the amazing opportunity and its their loss. 12 Titan Family... you keep doing what you do and let Queen Asha and Pimp Wasabi get to the Haters...
I know many may come for me for this. I believe the individuals that returned the dogs were being responsible. My suggestion would be to keep the option open for them to return the dogs. People as you said will be people. Imperfect beings. I believe in what you do and I’m sure in your business there are many ups and downs.
Its a tough topic but not everyone should have a Cane Corso. However, I would hate for them to take them to the pound. When a dog isn't properly trained it will over all negatively effect the breed's reputation and name. Some shelters and pounds wont even attempt to temperament test Corso, this happens a ton in county shelters. I know lots of reputable Dog breeders do not want their dogs ending up in pounds and its stated in their contract for legal action may be taken if they dump or abandon the dog at a shelter or side of the road. It sucks because good breeders have to put in lots of time and work to rehabilitate a dog and deal with this, I feel for the situation at hand and the "owner" gets off light. Most people who get a working breed don't get that by 1 1/2 and 2 the dogs need the most consistency and thats what ive seen to be the sweet spot for people wanting to give up on them. I do know some breeders end up obedience training the dog and selling them at a higher price for the training, it will never be enough for the amount of work actually put in but its something people do get a bit more out of and some people willing to pay for. Wishing you and your family the best!
Very profound and well thought out commentary that objectively looks at it from all angles: the buyer, the breeder and the dog. Thank you for sharing 🐾
It's almost impossible to screen out inappropriate owners. Some people present really well and say all the right things, and others, who don't look so promising, could turn out be more responsible, committed and self-disciplined. I sympathise with your frustration, but I think charging to rehome would be a strong incentive not to return the dog. And Corsos are particularly vulnerable to meeting an early end if things go wrong.
Straight forward feedback . Could you do a download about how to choose a dog Corso and to understand its needs so that people who are contemplating dogs understand what it means to own big powerful dogs that have natural guarding instincts . I went to a dog show and there were two Kangals there , Ispoke to the owner read the dogs body language and became aquainted . The Breeder , said would I hold her dog whilst she went in the ring . The dominant dog was attentive , in sync with my energy and well behaved . Does this mean I should get a Kangal . Hell no . I can know I can handle the dominance and a large dog . What I also know from my twenty minute chat with the breeder was that not only do they need a job , they prefer to do that work on their own and need a big acreage even with introduction to newcomers well done . So in the short time the interactions need to be understood . A lady came over to speak to me . Thinking I was a handler for these dogs , and asked me how long I had worked with Kangals . Answer 30 minutes Awesome dogs but not for me . Same with Akitas . The problem is could you do something to deter the return . I admire people who work in dog rescues but some dogs if not taught how to be , may be difficult to rehome and correcting bad habits is a full time job in itself . I knoq that you know Fenrir Training in the UK maybe some zoom assessment for payment may make people award if the pitfalls and what to do. .
As a former Boxer breeder I did not. I want to know where my litter puppies are located. If they did not feel comfortable returning one of the pups they could sell them, surrender them to local shelters, give them away to less savoy persons or just leave them behind. I taken back several dogs - one came back a 7 yr old intact male not in the greatest of health. I have been called from a rescue who pulled one of our dogs from a local kill shelter at 2 yrs. Rehoming contract is detailed with a communication clause, training clause, etc. I have been out of the breeding business for many years and am the proud mother of first a rescued Corso who is now 10 yrs old and a soon to be 2yr Corso I obtain from breeder as a pup. Favorite breed ever. Good love and continue the great work!
Hi Janet, I've also had Boxers almost my whole life and now I've got a Corso. Still love my Boxers but Corsos are the best breed ever. What is the story of your rescue Corso, now 10?
My fear is someone may just give the dog to a shelter instead of back to the breeder. I’ve seen some corso end up at kill shelters 😢 but please do what’s best for you.
Question for ya , how many do you sale a year ? How many have been returned to date ? We don't wake up in the morning go work every day for free now do we ! Keep you the great work please Love your channel
It almost seems like they'd need to be a package deal. I think they'd accept a new home if they went together and have something they're familiar with the go through the rehoming again.
Hello, Ms. Erika! All these ppl returning their dogs when someone like me is until death due us part. My dream is to absolutely own one of your Cane Corso's 🙏🏽 Im in need of one to be my service dog. My dream! I understand people have their reasons but for me its until death due us part. Thats a lot on you all and the dogs themselves. You are so right people are the problem. Ive owned pitbulls my entire adulthood and Idc I would never give up any of my dogs. I dont have kids or other animals. Ive had all my dogs until they passed away and even still I have my dogs ashes.
Hello back! Yes, its really a lifelong commitment - there are definitely reasons a puppy can and should come back... it just bothers me that not all cases are puppy health issues.... sometimes it's simply people just don't want to deal with it.
@TwelveTitansKennels 😢I completely agree with you. There are definitely reasons why they should go back. I often hear disheartening stories and think their lives are super short. Just try your best to give them the best life for the duration that they are here with us.
I'm sure you're doing everything you can to match the pups to the best family. You've done your job and more. Sometimes people are just irresponsible. Don't let these people throw you off your game. You've got this!
It is horrible that people adopt a "family" member and then return them! Just INSANE! They need love and a great home and they do get attached. I wish there was a way to perform better background checks to ensure the dog is going to a strong loving family
I don't think the prospect of having to pay a return fee will help the situation some puppy buyers will face. It could also result in some people freaking out completely and dropping the dog at a shelter, or even resort to selling the dog on Craigslist. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to have a Cane Corso because I have a family member who is afraid of them and I would worry about the dog picking up on that energy and then not listening to that person at all. As a result, I always have small dogs. However, I buy them on contract from responsible breeders who have return clauses in the agreement. Any dog can be returned without cause at any time during its life. Fortunately, I have never had to do that but I do know of situations where it's happened. I think you have to look at how many dogs you have placed in permanent homes over the years you and Greg have been breeding. A few dogs returned is a few too many from the dog's perspective but as a business it shows you are producing good, sound dogs. I agree about the emotional trauma inflicted on the dogs when they are rehomed but I have faith in the resilience of dogs. My first dog I owned as an adult was a two year old collie who was returned to his breeder after his owners divorced. He was a much loved pet and also following his parents' paw prints and earning points in the show ring. He was very confused by what had happened but eventually he grew to love my family and we adored him. That experience really taught me a lot about a dog's ability to adapt to living in a new pack. It was people who failed him but it was also people who saved him. A dog who knows their place in a family will heal from the trauma and be able to lead a happy life. One word of caution though; for the dog's sake they should have no contact with their prior family at all. Zero. Under no circumstances should that dog see, hear, or even smell them. They don't need any triggers that have a chance of setting them back emotionally.
Ericka, This is my opinion. I do think that you and Greg should charge any / all families with a return policy..These families have not done their serous research about the dog.
@@TwelveTitansKennels I know. I feel so sad for the fur babies that are being given back to you and Greg. After you both put in the hard work to get the fur babies ready to go to their fur-ever home with their new family. Those little fur-babies are in shock, you and Greg have to train them to get use to being around the other Corso’s and the other Homestead tenants.
Ok...here we go...have several things in this ole noggin. 1st & foremost...y'all are badass, found y'all right after y'all were moving to your homestead...man, y'all have come along way & have done alot of work...not just for y'all, but, for the Corso's & your critters. The information y'all give(for free) is great. Which has helped myself greatly. 2nd...like you said...people are the issue. There's a difference between ignorance & stupidity...someone who is ignorant...can learn. However, one can not fix stupid. There is absolutely no shortage of stupidity these days. 3rd...personally, I believe it's better for them to come back to you, damaged or not. I Have faith that y'all do as you do & get them back right. It's a whole lot better than some of the other things that could happen to them. Y'all are by far the best option. 4th...heard it said once...getting a Corso is like having a child(which is true) ya can not throw a child in the back yard & leave them to fend for themselves. It is a full time job. They want/need/require/demand your time, just like a child...honestly, at one time...I thought that I might have bit off more than I could chew, just kept my nose to that grindstone. Now, there's a badass next to me that is cooler than anything...he does his jobs well & takes them very seriously. 5th...still really would love to know exactly how the professor teaches them to wipe their mouths after drinking water. Lol...that rascal of mine...still leaves a trail of water throughout the house...yes he has me trained to sop up after him...believe he laughs each & everytime. Y'all are great...Thank you
I was a breeder myself, and my wife and I, had our buyers, sign a contract, basically stating, that if, for any reason, that they couldn’t or wouldn’t take care of the dog anymore, if the dog was fought, mistreated in certain ways, or was going to be surrendered, we had the right, to take the dog back, because first and foremost, it’s all about the dogs! So, in the end, I feel, that this was the best, for the dogs, overall!
Hello Erica and Greg. Well here I come to add an opinion. I would not charge a fee to take a pup back. My reasoning is I fear that the pup would end up being turned into the shelter or sold to somebody not in tune with a Corso. No telling where your babies could end up at...
I’m straddling the fence on my decision because if you ask me it enables these buyers to feel when they’re fed up they can just give up their dogs. If you’re going to take them back you deserve a return fee upfront that’s refundable after the owner keeps the dog a certain time frame. On the other hand I’m glad the dogs are returned to their breeders who still loves them.
As long as I've been watching, which is a few years now. You have done alot for the puppies and the new family. I'm looking on buying a home in atlanta and I may want you to see if I would be a good person to sell puppies to. I raised two male Bull Mastiffs years ago. It takes time and work for the new family. Maybe be actually a short term evaluation period to see if they can actually train and take care of the puppies. A dog ts a baby that never grows up. Hopefully you can find two other families that will love and take care of them
We are looking to purchase a puppy from you in the near future so I better answer your question accordingly. When it comes to buyers wanting a Corso, initially its the sight and majestic presence which catches the eye, and rightly so. I think in addition to your already rigorous screening process, I think that the intended buyers should have a discussion with the Breeder surrounding the topic of the “ ALPHA and BETA in the family as it pertains to raising the puppy through adulthood. Most people look at dogs as an addition, a play thing, something to occupy the kids when in reality CORSOS are literally a different breed and DEMAND ongoing training, socialization, and attention throughout their lifespan. The Breeder should very poignantly ask of the family what being an ALPHA to a corso entails. I can only speak for me and my husband who only now have come to the point in our lives and careers that we can give this Breed the attention it requires. Its selfish of a buyer to look at this BREED AS JUST A PET. I think if its drilled into them the hours, expense, necessary socialization/surroundings, and ongoing care it takes to raise one. I believe some will acquiesce and find a more suitable breed to their lifestyle. Lets face it, there will always be the ones that feel they can do it, and for them I have no comment. But I think you do a tremendous job as a Breeder, and of course you have to take the dogs back as painful as it is for the returned Corsos. Nevertheless, its better than the alternative of placing this Breed at the ASPCA. Hopefully, I will be filling out a questionnaire in the near future. Thanks
Yes! Because they might not be as thorough as you guys are. And you just can’t just turn around and sell it until you get the CC back to your standards and that cost u (lost money😅! )
Grt8 video and graphics 👍🏾. I’m sorry but once you return fur babies that’s it 🤷🏾♀️ adjustment is hard on them already and trauma as well. Once reassurance is established they’ll be living life on homestead forever.
I think most people talk a good one....As a breeder you can only do so much with choosing perspective buyers, most people will pose as good dog owners and once they see all the work that goes into having a pets. definitely should charge
At the end of the day, you run your business as you fit. Everyone is always going to pass their opinions and how, what and why. Life happens and ppl situation changes daily. I love my pet and they have replaced my grown children who have moved out of my home. All three of my dogs are one owners dogs and they all know I’m the alpha. I only purchased male dogs and they’re very loyal. I don’t have ppl come to my house because I’m not putting Loyalty, Innocent and Proven outside for anyone. It will be okay and whatever process you choose to sell your pets is your business they either respect or move alone…. Good luck Queen
Not sure if this is helpful or if this is just more of a hassle and a task for you and your family and program however there are some breeders that I have seen in Hawaii that required every family that purchases a puppy from them to do on site training with them specifically that way they are confident and comfortable that the dog is getting the appropriate type of training and they are able to see that the dog is moving forward in an appropriate situation . I realize that that's a lot and it works typically in Hawaii because no puppies can be flown off Island because of the strict regulations that they have and it's in a kind of a confined space again in Island however something along those lines might be worth pursuing
Hello from Georgia! I think your suggestions have a LOT of merit and its something we're actually considering. The conundrum is that like humans, puppies change as they develop into adults. The training and interaction you have with them when they are 3 months old must adapt to their new needs when they are 18 months old. ~And that shift is difficult for some people to make. Thank you so much for sharing!
I NEVER did.My guarantee financially was 96 hours. If they have to move or get a divorce or some other issues the dog has to come straight back to me. They had a 2 year genetic guarantee. But only a puppy would be replaced after proof from their veterinarian.
If a family can't keep a puppy for whatever the case, if they are charged a fee they may just give it up to a shelter or anyone else. Better to have the pup go back to the breeder for safety. Just my opinion.
I was angry when the pups got returned. Bcuz as a retired cop with so much time on my hands, I'd give my left arm for one of your puppies. Especially since I've followed u and Gregg for YEARS!!! But house first... dog 2nd. 🐕 😭
I can only say we vet people more for dogs than anything. Why we want family that love them and will give them the best life possible. People are just that people and you can’t predict what will happen. I think you do a great job and what you going to go spend a week with each family. Lol. You do know this is going to have some serious comments
As in all dogs all breeds, its "COMMON SENSE", the Responsibility of the buyer ( KNOWLEDGE), to know what they're getting in to, to do their own research as to the type of dog ( breed) that they are purchasing. It sounds like a game/pre-planned 🤔. A big "IF"🤔. IF we find out that this breed is"Too much to handle ", we'll just make up something then ask for a return,Is ridiculous. No different than having a new born child. IF one doesn't take the time for obedience training that child will have little structure. After all you're not breeding chihuahuas. Yes, based on the reasons, that would be the determination of my final decision in refunding a percentage back, Not 100%🤔🙏. No different than a child any dog of any size is a committed responsibility if one generally truly cares.
If you take the dogs back, they will return them to you. If you charge a fee, some heartless souls will leave them at the pound, for free. Perhaps you might try producing a video, maybe and hour long, that chronicles "a day in the life" of a Corso family. Of course it would be more than a day, probably a few days a month over a 12-18 month period, so that a prospective buyer can get a really good idea of what living with a giant is like.
I do believe that we live in a day and age with RUclips learners they watch a bunch of videos about how to be the alpha in their pack and they think they've got it down pat I do believe in training I think everybody should even get some one-on-one training I got a friend that's trainer she said boy a lot of times I think the owners need to be trained not the puppies and as far as charging to take the puppies back that's how you'll have a bunch of dogs that end up in night drops at Humane Societies or just the door the car left open and they drive off I may be a little bit Petty but I consider my dog part of the family just as much as one of my children and I wouldn't kick them out of the car either from everything I've seen watching y'all's Channel y'all do a wonderful job can I have no reason to believe anything you're going to do it's going to fix an issue such as this it's faulty people that have just gotten better at lying the most
You make some really good points. I really do think that many folks have good intentions. I believe that they are not necessarily lying or trying to be deceptive. It's just when faced with the realities of life (again not issues with the puppy like health issues) they just immediately de-prioritize the dog. 🙁
The truth is some people are committed before they get the dog and I assume those are the ones who keep them and some people have not committed and want to experience the dog first and I'm quite sure those are the ones that get returned so that would be the question you would want to ask people at least you'll get an honest response hopefully. Hope that helps❤
Audi is beautiful! Very nice physique. I think a CC is a breed you have to VERY WELL SCAN and review the people buying before selling them a puppy; A lot of people can fake anything to get through this too. They should have (1) knowledge of a basic book on CCs (2) make sure they have a plan for diet (3) make sure they have a proper income (4) make sure they have proper yard space (5) get an idea of their 5 year plans for future .. not for the dog but for themselves... a legitimate outline (6) add a rehousing fee clause so they know it can be done but will cost. It's fair game
it's simple if you don't like dogs and only care about selling them don't take them back BUT if you LOVE dog's and animal's in general and a decent person then you DEFINITELY take them back free of charge as you don't want the dogs to be abused or abandoned ❤ !!
@@TwelveTitansKennelsyou charging a return fee may deter some from getting a dog but not most. Most people will still get the dog but then if they no longer want it, they will just abandon the dog or take it to the shelter. So ultimately the dog will suffer if it is abandoned or taken to a shelter. The dog would be better off being returned to you!
Life happens but trusting and giving the needed information about the breed is all you can do once that family has his or her puppy. I would rather take back a dog than see it in a shelter or worst. When you receive a puppy that puppy because family. You can’t train the moral principles of acceptance in this throw away society. But it’s on them and not the breeder
As crazy as it may sound I wouldn't put it past certain people with devious intent to try to distract semen just try to clone what you work so hard to produce. Yes sounds CRAZY, judge putting out some positive thoughts of possibilities and reasons
I’m not sure about that. Would the restocking fee endanger the ones being returned. I think they should be able to return for the safety of the Dogs. I think there might need to be a Binding contract of some kind. People who return Cane Corso? Never respected the Breed in the first place period
Just want to add that ppl don't know the entire picture, that you as a breeder call and check up on your babies, I mean that's a good breeder/ person. Mama is doing good. And I actually was supposed to get Audi, but the timing wasn't right.
@@TwelveTitansKennels , I just type a 3 paragraph response, but deleted it. I feel like I would be insulting your intelligence offering my reason. I am certain you have considered all of these things already, I would bet money on it. Lastly, it seems you have taken back at least 2 dogs already from all of the videos I have seen so far so you have had to think about this 'boots on the ground'. I will say, I would ask for a restock fee towards the animal but would not make it mandatory to rescue to the dog. ~ my 2 cents.
I know this isn't related to dogs that get returned but I immediately thought of Twelve Titans when I heard this. Starting in August, no dogs will be allowed into the US if they are under six months old. I hope your Italian imports come here soon. This is a misguided blanket regulation established to lessen the risk of rabies. We can thank unregulated rescues importing sick dogs for this.
I think some people that have the money to invest in that kind of a breed perceives it more on a superficial level and sees the dog more as a status symbol or how they will be perceived by others in owning that type of breed. It was stated that those people had done their research into the breed. If they had, then it's a matter of them running when the going gets tough and not willing to put in the work it takes to care for this breed. Or they just flat out lied to the breeder because they simply wanted what they wanted in that moment without real care for the animal itself. And how is the breeder to really know? They took precautions. People lie on documents all the time to get what they want. They lie straight to people's faces to get what they want. I am not currently guardian of an animal but I do watch videos of those who train Rottweilers and Canes. Those people have very specific characters and have an intimate understanding of how dogs operate in general and even more detailed knowledge on the breeds they train. And unless those are the kinds of people making the life choice to take in this breed, then they have to be really strong people with the integrity and energy to put into training this breed as they should be. Protection/guard dogs requires one to go the extra mile with training and forging obedience and this breed responds much better to a true alpha (male or female), as their guardian. And the training method needs to be continued/enforced in the same style by all members of the family as the alpha that trained them or they can become confused/agitated/unsure of themselves causing other "bad" behaviors. Those are things I've learned by watching trainers of Rottweilers and Canes, so my knowledge with those breeds is limited and I have never been the guardian of any of those breeds to have real life experience. It seems to me that Kanes take a great deal of time, energy and great care with training. If this question isn't already on the questionaire, maybe it should be added: WHY/what purpose do they want be guardian of a Cane Corso? And depending on their answer, are they willing to put in the time/energy it takes to train them and are other members of the family willing to enforce/assist with that training? If they start engaging in "bad" behaviors, are they willing to put in the time and training for correction? Or would they choose to return the dog? That's a bit blunt but a way to separate out those who truly understand the breed vs. those who are wanting them for other reasons. And then the breeder has an easier time placing the dog with the right family or person saving the dog undue trauma later on. Clearly this breeder takes great care in breeding them and sees them as the beautiful, sentient majestic creatures that they are and wants the best home for each one. It doesn't matter if prospective buyers get offended by questions. If they're serious, they'll know exactly why those questions are asked and actually have a care for the dog in question.
You can’t charge for returns. If you do, the previous owners will simply dump the dogs at the local shelters that don’t charge. The problem with that is those shelters are generally high kill shelters. Regarding interviewing prospective owners…… you do what you can. The questionnaire you use is pretty comprehensive, then you interview. You make a judgment call based on limited information. Being a breeder is as much a business as a passion. At some point, you have to let puppies go otherwise there is no business, and very few people are wealthy to the point that they don’t need any return on their investment. The Corso breeder I recently used bred a really nice dog, but that person wasn’t as comprehensive in their vetting. During the purchase process there was no conversation regarding returns, just ways I could lose the dog if I broke the contract. It’s a different mindset. I don’t know what that person would say if I put them in the situation the two families put you in.
If you charged a fee to take back a puppy then the owner will simply dump the dog somewhere else for free end of story...also people lie so you cant ever 100% know someone is a good person adn can or will love and care for the dog which is why good breeders offer take backs.
Thank you for tuning in and following us on our journey! This is Part 3 of our "Returned Puppies" series. Be on the look-out for the next installment of this storyline. You can watch the full playlist at this link => bit.ly/4bm0JDK
Thank YOU both so much for replying back. As much as I Love dogs ( the Working line),and I do have experience ( the German shepherd breed) even obedience training, I'd LOVE another opportunity to love, care and simply have a companion again,I know it's more than just feeding. God bless you, Greg and your family. For what you've shared, All the HARD work involved it's truly The Lord's guidance along with Faith and HARD WORK 😇🙏🙏🙏. "THE DEVIL IS A LIAR"🙏🙏
We absolutely LOVE our puppy we got from you last November! She is so amazing.
You are a true believer tnank god we got you
As a breeder myself, we don't. What do you think you will avoid if you did? We encourage our buyers to return our pups if by any chance if it was a mistake getting a pup, whether it's due to the pup or even a family situation. It's a way to keep track of our productions.
Charge! Please, not many will pay you to take a puppy back. I suspect they'll just abandon the poor thing or put it in a shelter. RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS will take back any animal that they created; you owe it to the animal.
@@reneethomas286what you just wrote is why the breeder above said they don’t charge. You shouldn’t have replied to this person’s comment it should have been a general comment because he said they don’t charge for the dogs they breed.
@@reneethomas286exactly why would I pay you to take a dog back that I clearly and can’t keep or have time. If you as the breeder have the dogs best interests. You gotta take it back. Cus first the owner is gonna try to sell it, then give try and give it away, the to a shelter or worse. Stop trying to make money off of everything
All good breeders should take back their children. That separates them from a backyard breeder and also from a puppy mill I thank you for this video Erika it was long overdue. Take care and God bless you and your family 🙏🏾
Thank you so very much ❤❤
Old guy missing the companionship of a dog. Buried mine years ago. Both rescue they sorta picked me. Broke my heart to loose them. They were not puppies when I got them. You can't imagine what they got me through. Watching your channel warms my heart. Gives me hope. ❤❤❤
Hummm I'm on the fence. On one hand you charge the fee and it may help recouped the time and money you have to put into Training away bad habits. But on the other hand you don't want to see your pup's going to the pound so the own can avoid paying a fee. You have a great fan base and could potentially re-home them to a family who would rather have a grown dog and speed pass the puppy stage. 🤷♀️
Very good points
People want Cane Corsos because they think they’re cool dogs, and they are, but most people have no idea the hard work and care they require. Mine was a rescue at 9 mos. from one of my husband’s friends that were moving. He brought him home and I immediately said, “Oh hell nah!!!”😂 Well, he’s 3 now and I take good care of him but HE IS A LOT OF WORK!
That's common with dogs period. Humans buy dogs for all type of superficial, impulse reasons. Just vet potential buyers properly. I have an Akita. They are hard to care for. She is a female. I wouldnt sell Akita pups to any Tom dick or Harry. Samoyed is another difficult breed people buy cause it's "pretty".
As the owner of a 2-year-old 110 lb. male Cane Corso, I recommend that part of your screening process be a mandatory virtual Cane Corso Bootcamp, which includes a required site visit to the homestead. This must be completed before taking up a puppy (or, instead, a little soldier waiting for orders on when to defend and serve). By doing this, you can better screen potential adopters looking for lifelong companions and family guardians. To compensate for your and your family's time spent educating a prospective owner about the pros, cons, and other aspects of owning this fantastic "solider" breed, I believe the BootCamp should be an additional cost to the purchaser besides the puppy purchase price. Additionally, I think the stunning young woman you work with to train Cane Corsos will be a valuable resource for the Bootcamp. You should be able to charge the customer appropriately if they fulfilled all the requirements, came to the BootCamp, bought a puppy, and returned the adult or puppy to you for rehoming. I hope you find my recommendations helpful to you. After Kimichi was returned for rehoming, we recently bought her from you, and we are grateful that you chose us to be her new family. If we could have, we would have taken in ALL of your furry offspring, including the feathered ones.
Now this idea right here get THE GOLD STAR 🌟
@TwelveTitansKennels you gotta put a few tiny homes on your homestead for them to stay and work them out for a day or two. Just like schools send kids home with the fake babies from health class. Some Just aren't going to make it!!!
You guys are doing a great job: some people are just stupid and if they think they know better THEN they should do better. Love your passion and videos and we here shall always support you!
Thank you so very much for all your support 🎉
I haven't finished watching yet but almost finished I just wanted to pause n let you know you I love watching due to your family's journey but I just have to say you are one smart cookie, you stop analyz, look at all sides if the issue, and you come up with a reasonable answer. What I love about you is you always look at what's best for puppy's ❤ Amend that we have such a beautiful soul in you n you share your journey we may not all own dogs like you, but I feel you give us lessons that we can apply to other areas of our lives. ❤
There are pros and cons to charging a restocking fee. The biggest cons I see is the puppy ending up with another person who may end up abusing him/her, the puppy ending up in the shelter and being put to sleep. I learned that for every liter of ten puppies that are sold/given away, one will end up in a good loving home. I also found out that animals that are abandoned/returned have the same psychological effects as a three year old child. It’s a lot to think about on both fronts. People know they can’t afford to take and care for an animal but I believe it’s a “status” symbol, especially when they can get something from someone that is very well known. Just my thoughts.
Very well said. Thank you for sharing 🏆
GOD bless you, Erika..& ALL your fur babies!
I know it is work and you have to be committed to taking care of a Corso. Proper exercise, diet, clean up, maintenance, and just general care is work. I do believe in legitimate extenuating circumstances, no fees should be charged. Those circumstances could be death, maybe job or home loss, or even health issues for the owner. Not just be because it is decided an owner simply doesn’t want the dog anymore.
Soooo very true. Words of wisdom 🏆
I agree with one of the comments. No, it's a good chance you may find someone who wants an adult dog. The biggest issue may be breaking habits.
I’m with you.,, many people with all types of dogs don’t understand the breed. If dog has health issues is a disease story…
Yes because you have to rebuild the bond and training and reintroducing to the others can take A lot of time potentially.
This to me is a simple fix, like all employees do on an application, they demand that you have an emergency contact if something goes wrong. I believe that not only the buyer should be interviewed, but there should be a minimum of 3 contingency plan members that should be interviewed as well just in case a married or relationship goes wrong or financial hardship occurs. If there’s not at least 3 creditable backups that agree to take the dog if It doesn’t workout with the owner the puppies should not be sold and each back up should be interviewed as well. I’ll call it a “3 tier system and you can check to see if the buyer tried to reach out to his contingency members before taking back the pup’s. Just simple thinking ahead to insure continuity of care is provided 👊🏾❤️
Hmmm that's a very good idea. I like it. 🏆
Control what you can control, Ericka. God will do the rest. You have a good vetting process. Fact is, people lie. Taking the pups back from people who lack the means, the dedication, the will, and the love (need all four) to keep the pups will always be the better choice for you and the best choice for the pup(s). God bless you, Greg, and the rest of the homestead. Stay safe. Stay hydrated. Stay motivated!
I would have to say yes ... but also tell people that these dogs are not normal dogs, a bit of a disclaimer
As an outsider, you often have a rash opinion of what you should have done.
You see the beautiful girls who are given back for whatever reason. Personally, I think that if you have a dog like that (even though you know beforehand what breed you're getting) and you can't handle it or can't keep the dog, then it's a blessing that you take them back.
But dogs are not objects. They become family members who live with their families and are suddenly torn from this world.
This breaks their hearts and it takes time for them to accept their new life.
So it's really a blessing that you are there for them, give them understanding, new carers, respect, education and above all love and a home. ♥
Very well said. You're correct, it can be very hard on the dogs and not always that easy to rehabilitate them because they do develop strong attachments to their owners. Thank goodness both our girls were able to bounce back and trust again
This seems to be a touchy subject, but there’s multiple variables:
Sometimes it just simply doesn’t work out. Whether it’s circumstances, behavior, etc. A lot of people choose to hold onto dogs, instead of doing what’s best for them & their selves
Charging for a return, is a crazy concept. Most Owner’s are reluctant to return, even w/ a strict Contract, because they want to re coup what they spent
This is definitely a topic, I’ll have to make content about
Hello I have had my corso for a year now and has it been hard yes but also rewarding! Just my opinion … I have been knocked down and pulled down the street. I figured out how to get my corso to understand me and for me to understand him (training). I want to do what’s best for him you need to realize yes he is a big strong and I mean strong ( 125lbs) at 1 year old corso but still a PUPPY he needs to learn as well as I do. I’m not going to hold it against him!!! Twelve Titans Kennels handled it with dignity and grace !!!!
I also think people need to learn the strength of your loving big Corso puppy. As far as charging I think the family did right by the puppies by returning them to the homestead. I vote no. ( just my opinion least they were not abandoned! ) Love The Twelve Titans Kennels they are wonderful and compassionate!!!!! 💕🤗
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. They are definitely strong dogs and they don’t even realize it. I love your dedication, understanding and commitment to your baby! Bravo. Bravo 👏
The best thing of all this is you take them back. It is about the dogs welfare and their future. The people do not matter.
I think you do a great job at striving to pick the right owners for your pups. Of all the puppies you have been blessed to sell as far as I can remember you have only had 2 returned, sounds like an amazing percentage to me! A kinda wish you could do a “restocking” fee but I wouldn’t want someone to get rid of a dog to avoid paying the fee. Better it go back so that it can be taken care of properly. In my humble non professional opinion 😉
Thank you! We actually had two other returns but we were able to immediately rehome them with existing Titan Families who jumped at the chance to take them. These were the first to actually stay with us. But I believe you're right, anyone giving up on the dog is not going to pay a restock fee at that point. I think the other commentator mentioned charging it UPFRONT. And I really think people would pay it but when they get in this situation they would STILL give up. *Sigh*
PS I've been watching your wonderful well-organized breeding for a while. Your t's are crossed and your eyes are dotted. As the saying goes ," EVERYTHING IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY, & " LOOKS ARE DECIEVING ".which is why one plans ahead of time. The 5 Ps,"PROPER PLANNING PREVENTS POOR PERFORMANCE ( DECISIONS). On the response of a buyer.
AMEN!! Say it LOUD so the people in the back can hear!! 😆❤
100% right it's people. On the other hand, we need people to be able to be breeders. I feel blessed to be able to breed. Events like returns we just count on our breeder friends to vent our frustrations. Great video.
Cane Corso de Noriega
Thank you for sharing 🏆
I pray to god that you are out their i dont want to even think about it😢 i love watching moe,larry,and curly
Thank you for making this video. I don't think many breeders are willing to be this transparent. I wholeheartedly agree that it's PEOPLE. For me, your videos and the videos of others made me realize that as smitten as I am with the breed, having one would not fit into my lifestyle. I had to be honest with myself. We as humans seem to have trouble being honest with ourselves at times. I agree with you that dogs have feelings and taking one on without really doing your homework and/or being over confident in your ability to handle them is so wrong/sad for the dog. Love the channel!
Erica, I love your intro music, this is an original I love it. I agree with you on all points, PEOPLE. I love dogs of all sizes, they give you so much love and trust how can you just dismiss them. I'm of an age that I know I can't take care of a dog that size, I've always owned Saint Bernards and loved every slobbering minute. Continue to do what you do Erica, you will get all the support you need from your viewers. Blessing to you and your family and homestead.
"loved every slobbering minute" - was the perfect quote. Thank you for sharing and thank you for your support! ❤
I love how you handle everything with such class and grace. Nothing in this world is a 100% and anybody who doesn’t understand that is just a hater and an internet troll. You guys have helped me out so much with my cane corso! My goal is to oneday buy a corso from you but I want to make sure I’m ready for another 1 so I don’t ever have to return the dog.
Thank you so very much 🙏❤
I myself am just happy to see they have a good place to go. It's emotional for the puppy to go from home to home. Thank you for what you do on here.
I totally agree with you ⭐
My ❤goes out to y’all, I hate they had to go through that, but at least they brought them back to someone who loves them and will take great care of them ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Great video….. it helped me understand what is on the minds of breeders! I love the breed and definitely will do more research on them! Love the videos, new intro song, I see the investments being made and am excited to see what’s next! Keep up the great work!
Great video and some great information. Your kennels look amazing.
Thank you very much ❤
Erika.... its the people and commitment. When I adopted my Cane Corso /Presa Canario mix from my local shelter, he was a repeat offender of running away from his home. It was so bad that animal control knew him at sight. When i got him, they only thing he escaped from was his crate... he wasn't about that life! LOL!! However he never attempted to run away from my home. As a matter of fact he would never cross the door threshold without my permission. He never once tried me and he was going on 4 when i got him. The CC and PC are two formidable breeds and i got the best of both in him. Unfortunately i had to put him down after 5 years due to his health. I dropped thousands on him before i did.
You had to reevaluate, train and whatever else in order to see if the dog could even be with another family and that cost. Yes breeders should take back their products but people should also think twice. These situations/circumstances were already brewing before the dog entered their home.
Erica i think that your heart would absolutely break if one of your babies ended up in a dog pound or abandoned and left to fend for themselves. So i say no, don't charge, and hope that people understand that this great dog is now part of their family.
Yeah that would be an awful feeling 😖
I would love to have audi! I don't care what anyone says, I think you all do an amazing job with your dogs and your selling process. At the end of the day you can never predict what people will do. I love dogs and have had them my entire life. I plan to get a cane corso from you all. A cane corso has been my dream dog for a long time and I have done tons of research but I have never had one but I definitely want one! You all are amazing!
I think a good breeder should take their babies back no matter the circumstances. By taking them back they will be in safe hands. You don’t want your babies put in harm’s way like a shelter or backyard breeder. They deserve to come back home if things don’t work out. People go through hardships and trauma. We as humans can work ourselves back to a comfortable place. A dog or puppy cannot do anything on their own. They will always need a good human to take care of them. So this being said take your babies back. 💜
You are ABSOLUTELY Right at 11:07 in the video. Love the pups. They are beautiful. How could youreturn a family member? Have been looking and learning about the Corsos for two years. I wouldn't know where to get one in my area.
First...every one cant become a member of the Twelve Titan Family and the fact that they were even blessed with this
privilege is huge.
I think part of being a Titan is
having that good deep down feeling knowing you can give the dog back to where they are loved&safe.
There is absolutely positively no way to know if a baby is coming back. Things happen and its better to come back to you and not the shelter. Your vetting process is better than most.
So, sorry they have lost out on the amazing opportunity and its their loss.
12 Titan Family... you keep doing what you do and let Queen Asha and Pimp Wasabi get to the Haters...
😂😂😂😂😂
The theme intro song is everything need a Grammy frfr ❤❤❤❤
I know many may come for me for this. I believe the individuals that returned the dogs were being responsible. My suggestion would be to keep the option open for them to return the dogs. People as you said will be people. Imperfect beings. I believe in what you do and I’m sure in your business there are many ups and downs.
Thank you so very much 🙏
Its a tough topic but not everyone should have a Cane Corso. However, I would hate for them to take them to the pound. When a dog isn't properly trained it will over all negatively effect the breed's reputation and name. Some shelters and pounds wont even attempt to temperament test Corso, this happens a ton in county shelters. I know lots of reputable Dog breeders do not want their dogs ending up in pounds and its stated in their contract for legal action may be taken if they dump or abandon the dog at a shelter or side of the road. It sucks because good breeders have to put in lots of time and work to rehabilitate a dog and deal with this, I feel for the situation at hand and the "owner" gets off light. Most people who get a working breed don't get that by 1 1/2 and 2 the dogs need the most consistency and thats what ive seen to be the sweet spot for people wanting to give up on them. I do know some breeders end up obedience training the dog and selling them at a higher price for the training, it will never be enough for the amount of work actually put in but its something people do get a bit more out of and some people willing to pay for. Wishing you and your family the best!
Very profound and well thought out commentary that objectively looks at it from all angles: the buyer, the breeder and the dog. Thank you for sharing 🐾
It's almost impossible to screen out inappropriate owners. Some people present really well and say all the right things, and others, who don't look so promising, could turn out be more responsible, committed and self-disciplined. I sympathise with your frustration, but I think charging to rehome would be a strong incentive not to return the dog. And Corsos are particularly vulnerable to meeting an early end if things go wrong.
Well said! And I totally agree - we can't predict how someone is going to react and behave in a future situation. Thank you for sharing ❤
Love the music intro ! Who made it for you? It's fantastic.
Straight forward feedback .
Could you do a download about how to choose a dog Corso and to understand its needs so that people who are
contemplating dogs understand what it means to own big powerful dogs that have natural guarding instincts .
I went to a dog show and there were two Kangals there ,
Ispoke to the owner read the dogs body language and became aquainted .
The Breeder , said would I hold her dog whilst she went in the ring .
The dominant dog was attentive , in sync with my energy and well behaved .
Does this mean I should get a Kangal . Hell no .
I can know I can handle the dominance and a large dog . What I also know from my twenty minute chat with the breeder was that not only do they need a job , they prefer to do that work on their own and need a big acreage even with introduction to newcomers well done .
So in the short time the interactions need to be understood .
A lady came over to speak to me . Thinking I was a handler for these dogs , and asked me how long I had worked with Kangals . Answer 30 minutes Awesome dogs but not for me . Same with Akitas .
The problem is could you do something to deter the return .
I admire people who work in dog rescues but some dogs if not taught how to be , may be difficult to rehome and correcting bad habits is a full time job in itself .
I knoq that you know Fenrir Training in the UK maybe some zoom assessment for payment may make people award if the pitfalls and what to do.
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Very good commentary. I'll definitely note this and consider making a video to address your points. Thank you for ❤sharing!
As a former Boxer breeder I did not. I want to know where my litter puppies are located. If they did not feel comfortable returning one of the pups they could sell them, surrender them to local shelters, give them away to less savoy persons or just leave them behind. I taken back several dogs - one came back a 7 yr old intact male not in the greatest of health. I have been called from a rescue who pulled one of our dogs from a local kill shelter at 2 yrs. Rehoming contract is detailed with a communication clause, training clause, etc. I have been out of the breeding business for many years and am the proud mother of first a rescued Corso who is now 10 yrs old and a soon to be 2yr Corso I obtain from breeder as a pup. Favorite breed ever.
Good love and continue the great work!
Hi Janet, I've also had Boxers almost my whole life and now I've got a Corso. Still love my Boxers but Corsos are the best breed ever.
What is the story of your rescue Corso, now 10?
Very well said. And give those Corso kids of yours a pat on the head from me ❤
My fear is someone may just give the dog to a shelter instead of back to the breeder. I’ve seen some corso end up at kill shelters 😢 but please do what’s best for you.
Question for ya , how many do you sale a year ? How many have been returned to date ? We don't wake up in the morning go work every day for free now do we ! Keep you the great work please
Love your channel
Great and very informative video
Thank you 🙏
It almost seems like they'd need to be a package deal. I think they'd accept a new home if they went together and have something they're familiar with the go through the rehoming again.
They're actually not from the same litter and did not previously "know" each other. They would be fine a part from each other.
Hello, Ms. Erika! All these ppl returning their dogs when someone like me is until death due us part. My dream is to absolutely own one of your Cane Corso's 🙏🏽 Im in need of one to be my service dog. My dream! I understand people have their reasons but for me its until death due us part. Thats a lot on you all and the dogs themselves. You are so right people are the problem. Ive owned pitbulls my entire adulthood and Idc I would never give up any of my dogs. I dont have kids or other animals. Ive had all my dogs until they passed away and even still I have my dogs ashes.
Hello back! Yes, its really a lifelong commitment - there are definitely reasons a puppy can and should come back... it just bothers me that not all cases are puppy health issues.... sometimes it's simply people just don't want to deal with it.
@TwelveTitansKennels 😢I completely agree with you. There are definitely reasons why they should go back. I often hear disheartening stories and think their lives are super short. Just try your best to give them the best life for the duration that they are here with us.
I'm sure you're doing everything you can to match the pups to the best family. You've done your job and more. Sometimes people are just irresponsible. Don't let these people throw you off your game. You've got this!
Thank you so very much for your feedback and support! ❤🏆
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It is horrible that people adopt a "family" member and then return them! Just INSANE! They need love and a great home and they do get attached. I wish there was a way to perform better background checks to ensure the dog is going to a strong loving family
Yep its a shame but things happen and animals are quickly de-prioritized 🙁
I don't think the prospect of having to pay a return fee will help the situation some puppy buyers will face. It could also result in some people freaking out completely and dropping the dog at a shelter, or even resort to selling the dog on Craigslist. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to have a Cane Corso because I have a family member who is afraid of them and I would worry about the dog picking up on that energy and then not listening to that person at all. As a result, I always have small dogs. However, I buy them on contract from responsible breeders who have return clauses in the agreement. Any dog can be returned without cause at any time during its life. Fortunately, I have never had to do that but I do know of situations where it's happened. I think you have to look at how many dogs you have placed in permanent homes over the years you and Greg have been breeding. A few dogs returned is a few too many from the dog's perspective but as a business it shows you are producing good, sound dogs. I agree about the emotional trauma inflicted on the dogs when they are rehomed but I have faith in the resilience of dogs. My first dog I owned as an adult was a two year old collie who was returned to his breeder after his owners divorced. He was a much loved pet and also following his parents' paw prints and earning points in the show ring. He was very confused by what had happened but eventually he grew to love my family and we adored him. That experience really taught me a lot about a dog's ability to adapt to living in a new pack. It was people who failed him but it was also people who saved him. A dog who knows their place in a family will heal from the trauma and be able to lead a happy life. One word of caution though; for the dog's sake they should have no contact with their prior family at all. Zero. Under no circumstances should that dog see, hear, or even smell them. They don't need any triggers that have a chance of setting them back emotionally.
I love that phrase: "It was people who failed him but it was also people who saved him" - very profound ❤
Actually I love everything about this comment
@@TwelveTitansKennels Thank you
Ericka,
This is my opinion. I do think that you and Greg should charge any / all families with a return policy..These families have not done their serous research about the dog.
I think people also just give up especially when its very easy to give the dog back. IMO
@@TwelveTitansKennels I know. I feel so sad for the fur babies that are being given back to you and Greg. After you both put in the hard work to get the fur babies ready to go to their fur-ever home with their new family. Those little fur-babies are in shock, you and Greg have to train them to get use to being around the other Corso’s and the other Homestead tenants.
Yes, you should if they are going through a screening process and they can't handle the dog that on them and, yes, charge them
I said all that and never answered the question😂
No, i dont think you should charge..its their loss...rhey are missing out on a Lifetime Love..
You got me over here cracking up
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Yes,!!!!!!
Ok...here we go...have several things in this ole noggin. 1st & foremost...y'all are badass, found y'all right after y'all were moving to your homestead...man, y'all have come along way & have done alot of work...not just for y'all, but, for the Corso's & your critters. The information y'all give(for free) is great. Which has helped myself greatly. 2nd...like you said...people are the issue. There's a difference between ignorance & stupidity...someone who is ignorant...can learn. However, one can not fix stupid. There is absolutely no shortage of stupidity these days. 3rd...personally, I believe it's better for them to come back to you, damaged or not. I Have faith that y'all do as you do & get them back right. It's a whole lot better than some of the other things that could happen to them. Y'all are by far the best option. 4th...heard it said once...getting a Corso is like having a child(which is true) ya can not throw a child in the back yard & leave them to fend for themselves. It is a full time job. They want/need/require/demand your time, just like a child...honestly, at one time...I thought that I might have bit off more than I could chew, just kept my nose to that grindstone. Now, there's a badass next to me that is cooler than anything...he does his jobs well & takes them very seriously. 5th...still really would love to know exactly how the professor teaches them to wipe their mouths after drinking water. Lol...that rascal of mine...still leaves a trail of water throughout the house...yes he has me trained to sop up after him...believe he laughs each & everytime. Y'all are great...Thank you
I was a breeder myself, and my wife and I, had our buyers, sign a contract, basically stating, that if, for any reason, that they couldn’t or wouldn’t take care of the dog anymore, if the dog was fought, mistreated in certain ways, or was going to be surrendered, we had the right, to take the dog back, because first and foremost, it’s all about the dogs! So, in the end, I feel, that this was the best, for the dogs, overall!
Thank you for sharing your experience ❤
Hello Erica and Greg. Well here I come to add an opinion. I would not charge a fee to take a pup back. My reasoning is I fear that the pup would end up being turned into the shelter or sold to somebody not in tune with a Corso. No telling where your babies could end up at...
I totally agree with you. ⭐
I’m straddling the fence on my decision because if you ask me it enables these buyers to feel when they’re fed up they can just give up their dogs. If you’re going to take them back you deserve a return fee upfront that’s refundable after the owner keeps the dog a certain time frame. On the other hand I’m glad the dogs are returned to their breeders who still loves them.
As long as I've been watching, which is a few years now. You have done alot for the puppies and the new family. I'm looking on buying a home in atlanta and I may want you to see if I would be a good person to sell puppies to. I raised two male Bull Mastiffs years ago. It takes time and work for the new family. Maybe be actually a short term evaluation period to see if they can actually train and take care of the puppies. A dog ts a baby that never grows up. Hopefully you can find two other families that will love and take care of them
Audi looks just like sis 💜💜💜💜💜
We are looking to purchase a puppy from you in the near future so I better answer your question accordingly. When it comes to buyers wanting a Corso, initially its the sight and majestic presence which catches the eye, and rightly so. I think in addition to your already rigorous screening process, I think that the intended buyers should have a discussion with the Breeder surrounding the topic of the “ ALPHA and BETA in the family as it pertains to raising the puppy through adulthood. Most people look at dogs as an addition, a play thing, something to occupy the kids when in reality CORSOS are literally a different breed and DEMAND ongoing training, socialization, and attention throughout their lifespan. The Breeder should very poignantly ask of the family what being an ALPHA to a corso entails. I can only speak for me and my husband who only now have come to the point in our lives and careers that we can give this Breed the attention it requires. Its selfish of a buyer to look at this BREED AS JUST A PET. I think if its drilled into them the hours, expense, necessary socialization/surroundings, and ongoing care it takes to raise one. I believe some will acquiesce and find a more suitable breed to their lifestyle. Lets face it, there will always be the ones that feel they can do it, and for them I have no comment. But I think you do a tremendous job as a Breeder, and of course you have to take the dogs back as painful as it is for the returned Corsos. Nevertheless, its better than the alternative of placing this Breed at the ASPCA. Hopefully, I will be filling out a questionnaire in the near future. Thanks
Now this entire comment needs to be framed and put on a wall in a museum. Very well said and I couldn't agree more! 🏆
Yes! Because they might not be as thorough as you guys are. And you just can’t just turn around and sell it until you get the CC back to your standards and that cost u (lost money😅! )
Love the song!!❤❤❤❤ I would just take them back for no charge to make sure they arent mistreated or euthanized 🤎🤎🤎🤎
Thank you! I had a lot of fun making our new intro ☺❤
Grt8 video and graphics 👍🏾. I’m sorry but once you return fur babies that’s it 🤷🏾♀️ adjustment is hard on them already and trauma as well. Once reassurance is established they’ll be living life on homestead forever.
Thank you ma’am ❤️🐾
I been thinking about it… if I ever got one it would have to be an adult female an I wouldn’t get it too breed.
I’d love to have one of your dogs!
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@@TwelveTitansKennels Is dude standing out front with an ar pistol? I would love to visit your homestead!
Just do your best to screen potential buyers
I think most people talk a good one....As a breeder you can only do so much with choosing perspective buyers, most people will pose as good dog owners and once they see all the work that goes into having a pets. definitely should charge
You definitely make a good point.⭐
At the end of the day, you run your business as you fit. Everyone is always going to pass their opinions and how, what and why. Life happens and ppl situation changes daily. I love my pet and they have replaced my grown children who have moved out of my home. All three of my dogs are one owners dogs and they all know I’m the alpha. I only purchased male dogs and they’re very loyal. I don’t have ppl come to my house because I’m not putting Loyalty, Innocent and Proven outside for anyone. It will be okay and whatever process you choose to sell your pets is your business they either respect or move alone…. Good luck Queen
Not sure if this is helpful or if this is just more of a hassle and a task for you and your family and program however there are some breeders that I have seen in Hawaii that required every family that purchases a puppy from them to do on site training with them specifically that way they are confident and comfortable that the dog is getting the appropriate type of training and they are able to see that the dog is moving forward in an appropriate situation . I realize that that's a lot and it works typically in Hawaii because no puppies can be flown off Island because of the strict regulations that they have and it's in a kind of a confined space again in Island however something along those lines might be worth pursuing
Hello from Georgia! I think your suggestions have a LOT of merit and its something we're actually considering. The conundrum is that like humans, puppies change as they develop into adults. The training and interaction you have with them when they are 3 months old must adapt to their new needs when they are 18 months old. ~And that shift is difficult for some people to make. Thank you so much for sharing!
I NEVER did.My guarantee financially was 96 hours. If they have to move or get a divorce or some other issues the dog has to come straight back to me. They had a 2 year genetic guarantee. But only a puppy would be replaced after proof from their veterinarian.
If a family can't keep a puppy for whatever the case, if they are charged a fee they may just give it up to a shelter or anyone else. Better to have the pup go back to the breeder for safety. Just my opinion.
True indeed ❤
I was angry when the pups got returned. Bcuz as a retired cop with so much time on my hands, I'd give my left arm for one of your puppies. Especially since I've followed u and Gregg for YEARS!!! But house first... dog 2nd. 🐕 😭
Very smart thinking 🏆❤
@@TwelveTitansKennels yall gon hear from me. I'm moving from the Bay Area to Vegas. Then it's puppy time. Hahaha
@@doclew28 Woot woot!! That is so wonderful. We'll be here when you're ready!
I can only say we vet people more for dogs than anything. Why we want family that love them and will give them the best life possible. People are just that people and you can’t predict what will happen. I think you do a great job and what you going to go spend a week with each family. Lol.
You do know this is going to have some serious comments
I couldn't agree more. You can only do so much. And the road to hell is paved with good intentions 😆❤
As in all dogs all breeds, its "COMMON SENSE", the Responsibility of the buyer ( KNOWLEDGE), to know what they're getting in to, to do their own research as to the type of dog ( breed) that they are purchasing. It sounds like a game/pre-planned 🤔. A big "IF"🤔. IF we find out that this breed is"Too much to handle ", we'll just make up something then ask for a return,Is ridiculous. No different than having a new born child. IF one doesn't take the time for obedience training that child will have little structure. After all you're not breeding chihuahuas. Yes, based on the reasons, that would be the determination of my final decision in refunding a percentage back, Not 100%🤔🙏. No different than a child any dog of any size is a committed responsibility if one generally truly cares.
All valid points! Thank you for your insightful thoughts! ❤
If you take the dogs back, they will return them to you. If you charge a fee, some heartless souls will leave them at the pound, for free.
Perhaps you might try producing a video, maybe and hour long, that chronicles "a day in the life" of a Corso family. Of course it would be more than a day, probably a few days a month over a 12-18 month period, so that a prospective buyer can get a really good idea of what living with a giant is like.
That's a very interesting and good idea ❤❤ thank you for sharing
I do believe that we live in a day and age with RUclips learners they watch a bunch of videos about how to be the alpha in their pack and they think they've got it down pat I do believe in training I think everybody should even get some one-on-one training I got a friend that's trainer she said boy a lot of times I think the owners need to be trained not the puppies and as far as charging to take the puppies back that's how you'll have a bunch of dogs that end up in night drops at Humane Societies or just the door the car left open and they drive off I may be a little bit Petty but I consider my dog part of the family just as much as one of my children and I wouldn't kick them out of the car either from everything I've seen watching y'all's Channel y'all do a wonderful job can I have no reason to believe anything you're going to do it's going to fix an issue such as this it's faulty people that have just gotten better at lying the most
You make some really good points. I really do think that many folks have good intentions. I believe that they are not necessarily lying or trying to be deceptive. It's just when faced with the realities of life (again not issues with the puppy like health issues) they just immediately de-prioritize the dog. 🙁
The truth is some people are committed before they get the dog and I assume those are the ones who keep them and some people have not committed and want to experience the dog first and I'm quite sure those are the ones that get returned so that would be the question you would want to ask people at least you'll get an honest response hopefully. Hope that helps❤
Audi is beautiful! Very nice physique. I think a CC is a breed you have to VERY WELL SCAN and review the people buying before selling them a puppy; A lot of people can fake anything to get through this too. They should have (1) knowledge of a basic book on CCs (2) make sure they have a plan for diet (3) make sure they have a proper income (4) make sure they have proper yard space (5) get an idea of their 5 year plans for future .. not for the dog but for themselves... a legitimate outline (6) add a rehousing fee clause so they know it can be done but will cost. It's fair game
I agree. Very well outlined and presented 🏆
it's simple if you don't like dogs and only care about selling them don't take them back BUT if you LOVE dog's and animal's in general and a decent person then you DEFINITELY take them back free of charge as you don't want the dogs to be abused or abandoned ❤ !!
(For the sake of discussion) what’s your thought on charging a return fee to help discourage people from being so lackadaisical?
@@TwelveTitansKennelsyou charging a return fee may deter some from getting a dog but not most. Most people will still get the dog but then if they no longer want it, they will just abandon the dog or take it to the shelter. So ultimately the dog will suffer if it is abandoned or taken to a shelter. The dog would be better off being returned to you!
Life happens but trusting and giving the needed information about the breed is all you can do once that family has his or her puppy. I would rather take back a dog than see it in a shelter or worst. When you receive a puppy that puppy because family. You can’t train the moral principles of acceptance in this throw away society. But it’s on them and not the breeder
Well said 🏆
As crazy as it may sound I wouldn't put it past certain people with devious intent to try to distract semen just try to clone what you work so hard to produce. Yes sounds CRAZY, judge putting out some positive thoughts of possibilities and reasons
Anything is definitely possible these days 🤷🏻♀️
I’m not sure about that. Would the restocking fee endanger the ones being returned. I think they should be able to return for the safety of the Dogs. I think there might need to be a Binding contract of some kind. People who return Cane Corso? Never respected the Breed in the first place period
No because people discard them in a brutal manner
So many CC ARE being dumped, so no return fee. I wish I could bring Auidi home.
Just want to add that ppl don't know the entire picture, that you as a breeder call and check up on your babies, I mean that's a good breeder/ person. Mama is doing good. And I actually was supposed to get Audi, but the timing wasn't right.
I recommend taking the dog back free of charge for multiple good reasons.
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@@TwelveTitansKennels , I just type a 3 paragraph response, but deleted it. I feel like I would be insulting your intelligence offering my reason. I am certain you have considered all of these things already, I would bet money on it. Lastly, it seems you have taken back at least 2 dogs already from all of the videos I have seen so far so you have had to think about this 'boots on the ground'. I will say, I would ask for a restock fee towards the animal but would not make it mandatory to rescue to the dog. ~ my 2 cents.
@@benyaminyisrael4634 Well said
My fear is that if you charge a fee, they will end up in a pound.
True indeed 🙏
Do cane corso shed like a chocolate lad I really want one but don’t like the shedding
I know this isn't related to dogs that get returned but I immediately thought of Twelve Titans when I heard this. Starting in August, no dogs will be allowed into the US if they are under six months old. I hope your Italian imports come here soon. This is a misguided blanket regulation established to lessen the risk of rabies. We can thank unregulated rescues importing sick dogs for this.
I need to check out this breeder. We currently have a South African Mastiff aka Boerbel. All black with a white chest. Want a pet for my pet.
I think some people that have the money to invest in that kind of a breed perceives it more on a superficial level and sees the dog more as a status symbol or how they will be perceived by others in owning that type of breed. It was stated that those people had done their research into the breed. If they had, then it's a matter of them running when the going gets tough and not willing to put in the work it takes to care for this breed. Or they just flat out lied to the breeder because they simply wanted what they wanted in that moment without real care for the animal itself. And how is the breeder to really know? They took precautions. People lie on documents all the time to get what they want. They lie straight to people's faces to get what they want.
I am not currently guardian of an animal but I do watch videos of those who train Rottweilers and Canes. Those people have very specific characters and have an intimate understanding of how dogs operate in general and even more detailed knowledge on the breeds they train. And unless those are the kinds of people making the life choice to take in this breed, then they have to be really strong people with the integrity and energy to put into training this breed as they should be. Protection/guard dogs requires one to go the extra mile with training and forging obedience and this breed responds much better to a true alpha (male or female), as their guardian. And the training method needs to be continued/enforced in the same style by all members of the family as the alpha that trained them or they can become confused/agitated/unsure of themselves causing other "bad" behaviors. Those are things I've learned by watching trainers of Rottweilers and Canes, so my knowledge with those breeds is limited and I have never been the guardian of any of those breeds to have real life experience. It seems to me that Kanes take a great deal of time, energy and great care with training.
If this question isn't already on the questionaire, maybe it should be added: WHY/what purpose do they want be guardian of a Cane Corso? And depending on their answer, are they willing to put in the time/energy it takes to train them and are other members of the family willing to enforce/assist with that training?
If they start engaging in "bad" behaviors, are they willing to put in the time and training for correction? Or would they choose to return the dog?
That's a bit blunt but a way to separate out those who truly understand the breed vs. those who are wanting them for other reasons. And then the breeder has an easier time placing the dog with the right family or person saving the dog undue trauma later on. Clearly this breeder takes great care in breeding them and sees them as the beautiful, sentient majestic creatures that they are and wants the best home for each one. It doesn't matter if prospective buyers get offended by questions. If they're serious, they'll know exactly why those questions are asked and actually have a care for the dog in question.
YUP !!!
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You can’t charge for returns. If you do, the previous owners will simply dump the dogs at the local shelters that don’t charge. The problem with that is those shelters are generally high kill shelters. Regarding interviewing prospective owners…… you do what you can. The questionnaire you use is pretty comprehensive, then you interview. You make a judgment call based on limited information. Being a breeder is as much a business as a passion. At some point, you have to let puppies go otherwise there is no business, and very few people are wealthy to the point that they don’t need any return on their investment. The Corso breeder I recently used bred a really nice dog, but that person wasn’t as comprehensive in their vetting. During the purchase process there was no conversation regarding returns, just ways I could lose the dog if I broke the contract. It’s a different mindset. I don’t know what that person would say if I put them in the situation the two families put you in.
"Being a breeder is as much a business as a passion" - very poignant and right on the mark 🏆
If you charged a fee to take back a puppy then the owner will simply dump the dog somewhere else for free end of story...also people lie so you cant ever 100% know someone is a good person adn can or will love and care for the dog which is why good breeders offer take backs.
I disagree. Why should all pay a price for a few
Interesting point - tell me more about your thoughts
Nope. That will lead to the dogs being abandoned. Just vet people properly. Dont let anybody just take on Cane Corso.
Interesting. Can you expound on "Just vet people properly"? What other ideas do you have that can be employed?