@@seddyx8994 exactly! if vfd gets banned, it’ll struggle going first. It’ll still float and they can get into Zeus like you’d mentioned. Once Divine Treebeast High Peryton comes out, it’ll help the deck go first just a little bit
@@Tp-qt7qm don't forget bro if vfd gets banned it's not going to struggle as what you think just play ultimaya tzolkin Crystal wing and final sigma you still have Zeus and ravenous crock that'd be definitely a good backup.
Some commonly use cards: Solemn Strike Ash Summon Limit TCBOO (it don't stop completely) Gamma DRNM Droplet Gozen Match Rivaltry of Warlord Others: Mind Drain Debunk Macro Cosmos Dimension Shifter Mind Crush (they reveal by game mechanic when activating effect in hand) Gnomaterial (halt a bit) D.D. Crow/Meister (for GY effects) Torrential Tribute Mischief of the Gnomes (they need to play exactly Lv 3 or its mutiply, this card stop that entirely) Dimensional Barrier
VW dont need to play Gossip shadow, if you have a good hand you can play through nibiru and dont make gossip at all, and if you have a bad hand you dont want to make gossip shadow anyway
@Johnny Danger they can still easily have something like Dragoon, Crystal Wing and their mini macro cosmos turn 1. VFD is simply the best solution for everything most of the time but this deck can do much more.
@@dbomba dude that's crazy, they were like €4 each on presell on cm. This guy contacted a powerseller and told him "we know the price is gonna drop in the next week, I'll order some other stuff (like alphas and zeus), add 3 lilis for 0.40 and the seller said he was fine with that. Hyper stonks
@@dbomba right? I thought they’d go down after release to like €2 so waited like an idiot 🤣 Still feeling good having got my play set early. Even if VFD gets banned this deck is obscene... 🤭
@@EdisonLocalsMK Ikr, I play Prank-Kids and I just got obliterated by a Dragon Link player in game 3 after I dropped an Imperm and a Nibiru cause of the Buster lock and I haven't played against VW yet. I can't imagine being VFDed or Handlooped in a deck like mine
I run a dumb machine type deck and found that a good strategy is getting Machina Citadel in the grave, then baiting out destroy effects to get it on the board. Then using its effect to raigeki their board during the battle phase. They can still bring some boss monsters back in mp2 but it gives me a fighting chance.
Finally had a match against someone that knew how to play the deck and now I'm here. Guy played through Ash, Nib, Droll, Skull and more going first to make double VFD and played through double Battle Butler, Nib, and a few other disrupts to otk game 2. Fun times.
how effective is crowing the Qinglong ? i am deciding between nibiru and crow for the format and i’m actually leaning crow since so many decks put up negates before 5 summons.
Hey Tom, new policy update question! Note-taking policy was updated, and Farfa made a video detailing all of the policy changes and listed examples for each one. It was a good update video but I believe the example he used for the note-taking update is not covered under the policy. Specifically, he said that we could now write down the column a set Infinite Impermanence activated and resolved in. I don’t feel this lines up with the policy change because spells/traps can still be activated in the column, with their effects being negated. As Imperm doesn’t apply a mandatory clause preventing activations of spell/traps, and only negates the effects, could a player take note of this in order to maintain the game state? My goal isn’t to correct someone for the sake of being right, but to inform the relevant community if an example used was actually correct.
I would say you cannot write down which column imperm was activated on. I understand the point to maintain game state etc, also it's not something that prevents you from using that column.
How to beat the deck: don't let them do the Jizi sending Nyanyan play, it doesn't work so it's cheating, but some people who don't understand ruling will tell you ''BuT iT wOrKs On EdOpRo''
i was about to ask why thinking you can send nyanya just fine but then i read the summon condition but the sending and summoning happen during the same time
I guess you mean that Nyanyan won't summon herself because Nyanyan isn't in the gy when the effect triggers? I don't know alot about rulings but considering how this game works it would make sense.
What about 1-time turn-skips like DBarrier, DDG, White Howling, Forbidden Graveyard, Heat Wave, Earthshattering Event? The first 2 seem very effective and cover a pretty wide range of matchups this format but I never hear anyone talk about them. Howling and the rest are... no... but I mention them because they’re still the same genre of card.
Pleeeeeeease always other videos like this for other archetypes! From Meta to Tier 3.. Nobody in the WHOLE Tube explains “how to beat” steps as good as You do!!
Dark ruler + dark hole/raigeki = ded vfd Mind drain = no free hand summons Imperial iron wall/chaos hunter = no banish Silent graveyard = shuts off grave effects You can also just remove them slowly with mystic mine on field Just the things I use to counter since I play control decks like ghostricks (don't be like me lol)
Dude pretty much nothing stops vfd, if they activate in ur standby phase (you can’t activate cards). Dark ruler would be too slow soooo yah if I’m wrong please correct me cause I need to find ways to out vfd ..... -Brent mayfield
Yes but chuchi can pop and expect spot removals g2 and g3. Best cards against VW seem to be quick effects that dont stay on board and work going first or second.
@@rubberduckie5518 That’s true, but they wouldn’t be able to get anything banished if you do Mind Drain them since they wouldn’t be able to send Qinglong or Chuche to grave to then be banished
It is very hard to get over the level 9s they summon since it's also a Macro Cosmos for things going from field. It works to get rid of VFD, but it doesn't solve the problem entirely.
@@zzZDarKCroWZzz The issue with any targeting cards such as Droplet and Chalice is that they will chain the Trap to destroy VFD to make you miss target.
Talent works really well against VFD imo because a lot of the good players are waiting until mp to use VFD in order to play around gamma. Main deck gamma is way more common than main deck VFD, so I don’t really disagree with that choice. Additionally, the deck, when it’s going for VFD combo is super weak to nib, but when it’s able to set up crystal wing before hand OR the player goes for croc and trap, nib looks bad. That’s the problem nib has always had though, and assuming even the best players are gonna always play around it just means that the other combo decks will be better in the format because they can power through those weaker boards.
Thoughts on Crow? Or decks that have in-archetype Crow effects? And you said they don't activate on field, so I'm assuming Ogre isn't great either. Also, I'm guessing that Chaos Hunter is worse than Lancea, as they can easily get rid of her?
ghost reaper is a really good anti meta card that everyone sleeps on. of course it’s only good if you have space for like 5 or more targets that cover a variety of decks. i have 14 slots in my Qlis to work with so it gives me good coverage. i still only side it though, but it does steal games.
Rubber Duckie unfortunately a lot of people play the wrong targets and call it a bad card. just try hitting the isolde , elpy, noodleboofer, etc. if they don’t scoop on the spot, they will as soon as they realize they not only can’t pop off that turn , but also for the rest of the game. sniping an isolde is the same feeling as sitting on an Erebus plus Domain. they can’t do shit. scoop city.
Legit in dragon link you can run VFD as your 15th card and ghost reaper hits all the tier 1-2 combo decks. You already run Halq, rom, even striker, marcher and linkross are potential targets.
If you use warning point, they can still use the body on the field to special summon their other monsters from hand. And D. Barrier can only stop either xyz or synchro. It will slow them down though.
That's a blowout card if you can resolve it! But only works upto a degree... Because the deck has follow-ups and the cards banished are not lost permanently... Nyannyan can retrieve them
Can't impermanence if activated in the same column as the opponents chuche negate the effect from resolving of the chuche to pop making the negate of calamities active?
this deck is insane.... now unrelated ruling question for miss timing cos it dose my head in. if my.cards srates. when this card destroys a monster by battle it can...... and my.oponets monster states when this card is destroyed by battle it can... because mine is like just ahead in effect going off would mine stick and opponets miss? and option 2 same deal ecxcept his says if.... can mine still stick as its killing?
If your card has an effect that triggers when it destroys a monster by battle and your opponent has a monster that triggers when it is destroyed by battle, both those effects will trigger and activate. Since you are the turn player, generally you would have the priority to activate your effect as CL1 and your opponent as CL2.
@@R4INMAN94 cheers.. i though 1 might miss because there both whens... so miss is purly bassed when a card dose something like draw a card then same card says loose 1k LP? so if the card would active on the draw it would miss because you then loose 1k lp? so miss is based on cards that have 2 effects 1 after anothe?
@@rodneycarter977 no, the amount of effects on a card has nothing to do with missing timing. The only time you need to worry about missing timing is when a card says “when X, you can Y”. A non-mandatory “when” effect will miss timing if its activation condition isn’t the very last thing to happen.
Mst.tv i have a ruling question. Me and friend argued, can u help? My opponent activates Prank-kids "Doodle" targets 2 monsters in grave I activate D.D crow, target one of his monsters that he targeted and banish it, and then he SS the other monster. I say NO! Your not allowed to special summon just 1. Because the card mandates that you "target 2" and "SS THEM". It doesnt have the new wording of modern cards "Target up to 2", it has the old wording "Target 2" which cannot be anything less than 2, it must be exactly 2. Does not have "up to" in the card text. Am i correct? Because just like pot of Avarice and Yang Zing Path, they both say "Target 5" or "Target 3" they do not have "Up to 5" or "up to 3" in the card-text. So that means if you Crow just 1 of those targets, the effect does not resolve. Correct???
It is not correct Those two spells specifically says all so you need to shuffle all the targets into deck otherwise it doesn't resolve and it is different from Doodle And I think you wanna say Rocket instead of Doodle cause Doodle only recover cards
I wanna say more clearly Those 2 spells says target then you should shuffle all then draw if you can shuffle all into the deck While Doodle or Rocket says you target then you solve the effect; it is a different thing
Vfd wont get banned next list. It will take atleast 1 format (3 months) of VW being Tier 1. They just got their shine and it sells product. Therefore Konami wont do a thing. Block was the same way
Tom one question. If I have super poly in the hand and my opponent has the vfd and the lv9 synchro, can I active the super poly to summon elder entity ntss before gaining the possibility to active vfd's effect? (during the stabdby phase)
I play prank kids, what should I sure? Cause I also run mystic mine in main and they can pop. My side going first does nothing against virtual world and I can't use banish stuff like dimension sifter cause I need my cards to go to grave. I run 2 d.d. crow in main so it helps but very little.
@@MSTTV would that do anything? Can't they just put back the banished cards? I also have trouble with pure eldich so I was gonna take out the evenly I have in my side and put prohibition since I can call golden lord but if I do that not sure if prohibition be good against virtual world
@@DizangelMusic Prank-Kids can have many counter cards to place in main deck; u can place cards such as Gamma, Ash, Droplet, Gnomaterial, Impermanence, Veiler if going second If going second too and u find deck such as VW, side removal monster cards such as Raigeki, Lightning Storm (I don't quite recomend, lately many players put their monster in def) Evenly is good actually but not quite good against this deck
i play ghost reaper in the side in my Qlis but that’s because it’s a janky rogue stun deck that has all 15 slots in the extra to work with. it’s very strong in that situation but i don’t think it gives you enough coverage if you only have a slot or 2 available for targets. if the format continues to inch toward VW being tier .5 - tier 0, i’d say that in that case cherries may see some play.
If they have an otk... it won't do much because the xyz line up can / will end with AA Zeus... But calling synchros isn't a bad call. It's not bad at all.
what about dimensional barrier vs virtual world or is that a bad idea only asking because idk how to fit artifact scythe and sanctum in my side deck atm while im running desires in the main deck i like the idea of scythe and sanctum but again i main desires atm for my dog invoked deck so idk what to do tbh in this situation
@@heftylad again i would run artifact scythe and sanctum if i could but it conflicts with desires in my main deck atm plus i kinda need the draw power at times plus im not the biggest fan of ttt espically in this match up plus imo ttt is to reliant on opponents trying to activate stuff as well so yeah
Im a huge lover of summon limit. Such a crippling card ❤️ I play Dark magician and it’s the only way I feel like I can significantly slow down my opponent to play at my pace
Wait I’m confused...you said that Nyannyan can bring back face down banished cards? I thought cards that were banished face down are non playable! Only face up banished cards are playable and can be brought back
Yes Nyannyan can bring back face-down banished cards. This isn't even a new thing. Psyframe Lord OMEGA is the precedent, as it already brought back pot of desires cards. Cards that are banished face-down are still considered as a Banished Card. Nyannyan can target any banished card, up or down. If a target requirement or a card requirement has stats, card type, etc, then that would limit it to face up only. However, if it only requires a card (nothing else), then facedowns can be targeted. PsyFrame Lord Omega can also bring back facedown banished cards during the Standby phase, again it also does not state the card type or stat.
Good video thanks. I wouldn’t touch this deck with a 39-1/2’ pole. Looks at collection of sub meta decks with disappointment. (Gishki,tenyi,plunder,relinquished,unchained)
in a way my friend use virtual world and he is a fucking monster with that deck, if he takes first turn, he summons about 2-4 negates + shenshen and it's kinda of gameover when he does xD
Playing Yugioh on a budget just isn’t viably possible anymore...you either have the power cards or run one of the top stratedgies, or you automatically lose; Cause the opponent either locks you out of the game(literally or with multiple negates) or hand loops you.
@@Nephalem2002 It's pretty cheap. VW is anywhere from 100-200 bucks (unless you want TTTs, which is just fine right now), Dragon Link is pretty cheap, Eldlich and Invoked got reprints and dropped the prices a bunch, Zoo is pretty cheap outside of Zeus, and a lot of rogue decks are pretty cheap. If you can justify not playing a Dogma deck, you should be fine with regards to finding a nice, cheap deck. (Especially with Gammas being a buck, Nibs being 7, Ash being 7.50-8, Veiler being 2, and Lancea being a buck. You can get most hand traps cheap.)
so dimension shifter and Drnm seem like the best options.. having 3of each would give a good chance to open with 1... then eather way your set to make your play or did i miss something?
Actually no, dark ruler is garbage I'd say, if they activate calamities during draw or standby then dark ruler doesn't do anything, and even if they let you enter main phase, if you activate dark ruler, they can chain chuche to pop dark ruler and then chain calamities to chuche so calamities resolve before your dark ruler, dimension shifter though is pretty good
Yeah dark ruler doesn't work and D. Shifter wrecks them, just like it wrecks any deck, and by any deck I mean it probably includes the deck you're playing it in.
Mind drain. you welcome
Please Tom, get that last purple acoustic panel.
Ok I feel better now. Loving the new setup tho’ 👌🏽 nice
You only have 2 options here, An upstart or a literal brick. Think about it.
Wait for calamities to be banned. That’s how you beat virtual world lol jk
Lol I said the same thing but then I said wait they can handle loop and they still got Zeus.
@@seddyx8994 exactly! if vfd gets banned, it’ll struggle going first. It’ll still float and they can get into Zeus like you’d mentioned. Once Divine Treebeast High Peryton comes out, it’ll help the deck go first just a little bit
@@Tp-qt7qm honestly think they'll limit him to 1
Doubt it tcg will go after more clutch cards like smoke grenade, red-eyes fusion or even zexal before they hit it...
@@Tp-qt7qm don't forget bro if vfd gets banned it's not going to struggle as what you think just play ultimaya tzolkin Crystal wing and final sigma you still have Zeus and ravenous crock that'd be definitely a good backup.
Some commonly use cards:
Solemn Strike
Ash
Summon Limit
TCBOO (it don't stop completely)
Gamma
DRNM
Droplet
Gozen Match
Rivaltry of Warlord
Others:
Mind Drain
Debunk
Macro Cosmos
Dimension Shifter
Mind Crush (they reveal by game mechanic when activating effect in hand)
Gnomaterial (halt a bit)
D.D. Crow/Meister (for GY effects)
Torrential Tribute
Mischief of the Gnomes (they need to play exactly Lv 3 or its mutiply, this card stop that entirely)
Dimensional Barrier
I've been waiting for this a while now, thank you so much! MST.tv knows what I want
same considering i have an online tourney this weekend this helped me quite a bit considering i didnt know much of what to do before
VW dont need to play Gossip shadow, if you have a good hand you can play through nibiru and dont make gossip at all, and if you have a bad hand you dont want to make gossip shadow anyway
Is gnomaterial good versus this deck? Stopping either shenshen or vfd summon by blocking 1 material seems effective
You are still under mini macro cosmo and double pop + any ht, with 5 cards in hand, not that great.
There is just to many different routes to actually gnomaterial
@Johnny Danger they can still easily have something like Dragoon, Crystal Wing and their mini macro cosmos turn 1. VFD is simply the best solution for everything most of the time but this deck can do much more.
Good hand traps against the deck starts at 8:54
Yes, D Shifter has always been a good card if you were able to run it.
@@L0calLEGEND So just Gren Maju really. :P
@@mathunit1 Subterror Guru and Traptrix are also rogue and can utilize D Shifter. :P
Different dimension ground going first lit as Fire 🔥
Just got some forgot about them
Since summon limit is easily outed, why not side heat wave instead?
If u can play it.
MST.tv with the secret sauce to beating the format once again 👌👌 **chef’s kiss**
Good vid Tom. I didn’t pick up Lulus at €4 thinking they’d dip back down... glad I picked them up at €8 though... they’ve now tripled over here 🙄🙄
I know a guy who got a playset for €0.40 man 😭
@@gorsedh wow tf they are now 20€ on Cardmarket
@@dbomba dude that's crazy, they were like €4 each on presell on cm. This guy contacted a powerseller and told him "we know the price is gonna drop in the next week, I'll order some other stuff (like alphas and zeus), add 3 lilis for 0.40 and the seller said he was fine with that. Hyper stonks
@@dbomba right? I thought they’d go down after release to like €2 so waited like an idiot 🤣
Still feeling good having got my play set early. Even if VFD gets banned this deck is obscene... 🤭
@@EdisonLocalsMK Ikr, I play Prank-Kids and I just got obliterated by a Dragon Link player in game 3 after I dropped an Imperm and a Nibiru cause of the Buster lock and I haven't played against VW yet. I can't imagine being VFDed or Handlooped in a deck like mine
Man, VFD is about 5 formats overdue for its spot on the banlist.
The Thumbnail was GENIUS 🔌
Risebell The Star Adjuster w/ E.tele is a interesting tech for this deck
Why not use Mischief of the Gnome? Would be interesting to see them can do almost nothing with that
I run a dumb machine type deck and found that a good strategy is getting Machina Citadel in the grave, then baiting out destroy effects to get it on the board.
Then using its effect to raigeki their board during the battle phase.
They can still bring some boss monsters back in mp2 but it gives me a fighting chance.
Going first, maybe mind drain. A double edges floodgate, both player cannot use monster effect in hand.
Maybe Typhoon
Mind drain yes. Of course good going 1st. Like all things that gets left on the field,.. chuche can always be an out.
What are they leaving on field in addition to Chuche that would allow Typhoon to activate turn 0?
Thanks for the sidedeck video this really helps
thanks for uploading this video, really you are the first , i needed this information
Finally had a match against someone that knew how to play the deck and now I'm here. Guy played through Ash, Nib, Droll, Skull and more going first to make double VFD and played through double Battle Butler, Nib, and a few other disrupts to otk game 2. Fun times.
These are my fav kind of videos. Meta discourse 4 life yo
The worst part about playing against this deck is learning the ins and outs of this deck knowing you aren't event playing it, but rather against it.
Flip a summon limit and mind drain going first.
Always a great help man.
Thanks!
Triple Mirror Force 😏
Thanks papatom for the tech
This video is what we needed!
how effective is crowing the Qinglong ? i am deciding between nibiru and crow for the format and i’m actually leaning crow since so many decks put up negates before 5 summons.
Waat about graveyard hate like crod/skull meister/belle?
Wouldn't necrovalley slow them down especially if I have dragoon or the gravekeeper fusion on board?
necrovalley will always be amazing vs the top deck of any format, as a rule.
Hey Tom, new policy update question! Note-taking policy was updated, and Farfa made a video detailing all of the policy changes and listed examples for each one. It was a good update video but I believe the example he used for the note-taking update is not covered under the policy.
Specifically, he said that we could now write down the column a set Infinite Impermanence activated and resolved in. I don’t feel this lines up with the policy change because spells/traps can still be activated in the column, with their effects being negated. As Imperm doesn’t apply a mandatory clause preventing activations of spell/traps, and only negates the effects, could a player take note of this in order to maintain the game state?
My goal isn’t to correct someone for the sake of being right, but to inform the relevant community if an example used was actually correct.
I would say you cannot write down which column imperm was activated on. I understand the point to maintain game state etc, also it's not something that prevents you from using that column.
@@MSTTV thanks for the clarification Tom. Do you think this would be a point of confusion among the judge community?
How to beat the deck: don't let them do the Jizi sending Nyanyan play, it doesn't work so it's cheating, but some people who don't understand ruling will tell you ''BuT iT wOrKs On EdOpRo''
Yah that play is illegal and I will make a video addressing it!
i was about to ask why thinking you can send nyanya just fine but then i read the summon condition but the sending and summoning happen during the same time
I guess you mean that Nyanyan won't summon herself because Nyanyan isn't in the gy when the effect triggers?
I don't know alot about rulings but considering how this game works it would make sense.
What is Jizi lol
U should have reported it instead of saying that mean thing and explain it why
What about ogre is it any good slowing em down?
Ogre is only defensive... It just stops chuches pop effect.
What about 1-time turn-skips like DBarrier, DDG, White Howling, Forbidden Graveyard, Heat Wave, Earthshattering Event? The first 2 seem very effective and cover a pretty wide range of matchups this format but I never hear anyone talk about them. Howling and the rest are... no... but I mention them because they’re still the same genre of card.
Yes
Pleeeeeeease always other videos like this for other archetypes! From Meta to Tier 3.. Nobody in the WHOLE Tube explains “how to beat” steps as good as You do!!
What about winter cherries, simply remove calamities from the equation? Yes I know it will require an extra deck spot but it will help in the long run
Apparently they can shuffle them back
Please do this for infernoble.
Dark ruler + dark hole/raigeki = ded vfd
Mind drain = no free hand summons
Imperial iron wall/chaos hunter = no banish
Silent graveyard = shuts off grave effects
You can also just remove them slowly with mystic mine on field
Just the things I use to counter since I play control decks like ghostricks (don't be like me lol)
Mystic mine will only work if and only if they don't have any banished cards ... And no other banishing options to get chuche to pop it.
Dude pretty much nothing stops vfd, if they activate in ur standby phase (you can’t activate cards). Dark ruler would be too slow soooo yah if I’m wrong please correct me cause I need to find ways to out vfd ..... -Brent mayfield
@@fionnalarcom7163 Gamma stops it unless they have also... The gossip shadow
@@MSTTV gossip shadow? Never heard of it
@@fionnalarcom7163 bamboozling the gossip shadow
Wouldn’t Mind Drain be a good floodgate?
Yes but chuchi can pop and expect spot removals g2 and g3. Best cards against VW seem to be quick effects that dont stay on board and work going first or second.
@@rubberduckie5518 That’s true, but they wouldn’t be able to get anything banished if you do Mind Drain them since they wouldn’t be able to send Qinglong or Chuche to grave to then be banished
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Simple unplug the router
Oh my god that intro was corny .....I love it
Thoughts on XYZ Encore? Stops VFD and Zeus since u can activate in DP and helps against other matchups like zoo
It is very hard to get over the level 9s they summon since it's also a Macro Cosmos for things going from field. It works to get rid of VFD, but it doesn't solve the problem entirely.
The forbidden cards (droplet and chalice) are better since they also work on the synchros. For going first d.barrier is a good option.
@@zzZDarKCroWZzz no they’re useless because of the VW trap
@@Avermra fair. But as a combo player I’d rather go against Macro than VFD
@@zzZDarKCroWZzz The issue with any targeting cards such as Droplet and Chalice is that they will chain the Trap to destroy VFD to make you miss target.
Talent works really well against VFD imo because a lot of the good players are waiting until mp to use VFD in order to play around gamma. Main deck gamma is way more common than main deck VFD, so I don’t really disagree with that choice. Additionally, the deck, when it’s going for VFD combo is super weak to nib, but when it’s able to set up crystal wing before hand OR the player goes for croc and trap, nib looks bad. That’s the problem nib has always had though, and assuming even the best players are gonna always play around it just means that the other combo decks will be better in the format because they can power through those weaker boards.
That's fair... Ish... But vfd still kinda sucks even if u steal or draw or handrip
@@MSTTV that’s fair, not really like u can link it off in most decks. I agree with ur assessment that other disruption is better either way.
Would Herald of Arc Light work?
Thoughts on Crow? Or decks that have in-archetype Crow effects? And you said they don't activate on field, so I'm assuming Ogre isn't great either. Also, I'm guessing that Chaos Hunter is worse than Lancea, as they can easily get rid of her?
Crow away qinglong before they activate it.
At this rate we're going to have to start name decking ghost reaper to out the vfd...🤣
ghost reaper is a really good anti meta card that everyone sleeps on. of course it’s only good if you have space for like 5 or more targets that cover a variety of decks. i have 14 slots in my Qlis to work with so it gives me good coverage. i still only side it though, but it does steal games.
I have space in my tier 35 dream mirror deck
Ghost Reaper is so so good against alot of meta decks
Rubber Duckie unfortunately a lot of people play the wrong targets and call it a bad card. just try hitting the isolde , elpy, noodleboofer, etc. if they don’t scoop on the spot, they will as soon as they realize they not only can’t pop off that turn , but also for the rest of the game. sniping an isolde is the same feeling as sitting on an Erebus plus Domain. they can’t do shit. scoop city.
Legit in dragon link you can run VFD as your 15th card and ghost reaper hits all the tier 1-2 combo decks. You already run Halq, rom, even striker, marcher and linkross are potential targets.
I love videos like these.
Well, you can use Warning Point (or Dimensional Barrier if you wish).
If you use warning point, they can still use the body on the field to special summon their other monsters from hand. And D. Barrier can only stop either xyz or synchro. It will slow them down though.
Thanks for the great video
Question, would spooky dogwood work well against VW?
What about evenly matched?
That's a blowout card if you can resolve it! But only works upto a degree... Because the deck has follow-ups and the cards banished are not lost permanently... Nyannyan can retrieve them
I'd love if the "virtual" monsters would consist of just one type (like psychic), so that Tcboo could hinder them so much more! #toosad
What about the floodgates summon limit
Can't impermanence if activated in the same column as the opponents chuche negate the effect from resolving of the chuche to pop making the negate of calamities active?
Hey just getting back into the game. Wondering how does debunk work against them?
In one of my decks i run Summon Limit, but now seeing these guys. What about using Mind Drain?
this deck is insane.... now unrelated ruling question for miss timing cos it dose my head in.
if my.cards srates.
when this card destroys a monster by battle it can......
and my.oponets monster states when this card is destroyed by battle it can...
because mine is like just ahead in effect going off would mine stick and opponets miss?
and option 2 same deal ecxcept his says if....
can mine still stick as its killing?
If your card has an effect that triggers when it destroys a monster by battle and your opponent has a monster that triggers when it is destroyed by battle, both those effects will trigger and activate. Since you are the turn player, generally you would have the priority to activate your effect as CL1 and your opponent as CL2.
@@R4INMAN94 cheers.. i though 1 might miss because there both whens... so miss is purly bassed when a card dose something like draw a card then same card says loose 1k LP? so if the card would active on the draw it would miss because you then loose 1k lp? so miss is based on cards that have 2 effects 1 after anothe?
@@rodneycarter977 no, the amount of effects on a card has nothing to do with missing timing. The only time you need to worry about missing timing is when a card says “when X, you can Y”. A non-mandatory “when” effect will miss timing if its activation condition isn’t the very last thing to happen.
Mst.tv i have a ruling question. Me and friend argued, can u help? My opponent activates Prank-kids "Doodle" targets 2 monsters in grave
I activate D.D crow, target one of his monsters that he targeted and banish it, and then he SS the other monster.
I say NO! Your not allowed to special summon just 1. Because the card mandates that you "target 2" and "SS THEM". It doesnt have the new wording of modern cards "Target up to 2", it has the old wording "Target 2" which cannot be anything less than 2, it must be exactly 2. Does not have "up to" in the card text.
Am i correct? Because just like pot of Avarice and Yang Zing Path, they both say "Target 5" or "Target 3" they do not have "Up to 5" or "up to 3" in the card-text. So that means if you Crow just 1 of those targets, the effect does not resolve. Correct???
It is not correct
Those two spells specifically says all so you need to shuffle all the targets into deck otherwise it doesn't resolve and it is different from Doodle
And I think you wanna say Rocket instead of Doodle cause Doodle only recover cards
I wanna say more clearly
Those 2 spells says target then you should shuffle all then draw if you can shuffle all into the deck
While Doodle or Rocket says you target then you solve the effect; it is a different thing
well i bought the deck as soon as they came out guess vfd is getting banned next month and the deck will be rogue until the plant 9 xyz comes out
Vfd wont get banned next list. It will take atleast 1 format (3 months) of VW being Tier 1. They just got their shine and it sells product. Therefore Konami wont do a thing. Block was the same way
Where's that non-budget build though?
Replace Foolish Burial Goods with TTT
@@Nothingineternity Triple Twin Twisters is ass though!
Would Kaijus be useful against VFD?
Tom one question. If I have super poly in the hand and my opponent has the vfd and the lv9 synchro, can I active the super poly to summon elder entity ntss before gaining the possibility to active vfd's effect? (during the stabdby phase)
N’tiss has to be summoned using your monsters so can’t use super poly
@@timo2a561 elder entity was my first idea but thanks. The same thing can be applied with starving venom when my opp has vfd and random dark monster?
@@gdlxx73 ye you can activate super poly before they activate VFD
U can but u should do that before opponent realize what you want to do and u have proper targets
@@timo2a561 thx
I play prank kids, what should I sure? Cause I also run mystic mine in main and they can pop. My side going first does nothing against virtual world and I can't use banish stuff like dimension sifter cause I need my cards to go to grave. I run 2 d.d. crow in main so it helps but very little.
Ice dragon's prison
Remember that their combo pieces on board.. are high value. They aren't free.
@@MSTTV would that do anything? Can't they just put back the banished cards? I also have trouble with pure eldich so I was gonna take out the evenly I have in my side and put prohibition since I can call golden lord but if I do that not sure if prohibition be good against virtual world
@@DizangelMusic Prank-Kids can have many counter cards to place in main deck; u can place cards such as Gamma, Ash, Droplet, Gnomaterial, Impermanence, Veiler if going second
If going second too and u find deck such as VW, side removal monster cards such as Raigeki, Lightning Storm (I don't quite recomend, lately many players put their monster in def)
Evenly is good actually but not quite good against this deck
Is Ghost Reaper good? To Banish VFD
i play ghost reaper in the side in my Qlis but that’s because it’s a janky rogue stun deck that has all 15 slots in the extra to work with. it’s very strong in that situation but i don’t think it gives you enough coverage if you only have a slot or 2 available for targets. if the format continues to inch toward VW being tier .5 - tier 0, i’d say that in that case cherries may see some play.
What can they do if you ghost reaper the VFD?
thoughts on forbidden chalice tom? seems quite ok to stop vfd going 2nd
Like imperm if they don't have chuche you are good
@@MSTTV you mean if they activate calamities I respond chalice on vfd then they chuche their own calamities to prevent my chalice negating their vfd?
Correct and since they already have shenshen in grave... They are coming back with a big monster that kinda follow-up sometimes enough to otk someone
Would dimensional barrier be a good side for vw?
Yeah call synchro and they don't have a whole lot
If they have an otk... it won't do much because the xyz line up can / will end with AA Zeus... But calling synchros isn't a bad call. It's not bad at all.
But if call synchro the have to make fanfan jaja or utopia prime swing zues and then will only have 1 zues pop
Slows the deck a lot
Field wipes? Raigeki, dark hole etc...
You can use book of moon
"It is a machine that goes Ding!"
Is torrential good against virtual worlds?
Haha great thumbnail
banquet of millions is a free turn if you don't use your extra deck (gren maju :))
what about dimensional barrier vs virtual world or is that a bad idea only asking because idk how to fit artifact scythe and sanctum in my side deck atm while im running desires in the main deck i like the idea of scythe and sanctum but again i main desires atm for my dog invoked deck so idk what to do tbh in this situation
D.barrier would probably work, especially if you call synchro instead of xyz
@@heftylad again i would run artifact scythe and sanctum if i could but it conflicts with desires in my main deck atm plus i kinda need the draw power at times plus im not the biggest fan of ttt espically in this match up plus imo ttt is to reliant on opponents trying to activate stuff as well so yeah
U usually win going first. It’s going second that’s the hard part
@@Xelxa93 so use d barrier
@@Xelxa93 I think you can side the trap and the desires/TTT
potential numeron comeback?
If they start with gatekuanlon that put a spell or trap from the deck to field and i chain ghostogre they still get the spell/trap?
U cannot ogre the trap until it activates it's effect
You cannot Ogre the Gate; it is a indirect searcher of their S/T; however you can Ash it
Imperial Iron Wall is quite useful if it doesn't get outed
Has anyone tested mind drain or soul drain?
what about ghost ogre ?
Im a huge lover of summon limit. Such a crippling card ❤️ I play Dark magician and it’s the only way I feel like I can significantly slow down my opponent to play at my pace
Wait I’m confused...you said that Nyannyan can bring back face down banished cards? I thought cards that were banished face down are non playable! Only face up banished cards are playable and can be brought back
Yes Nyannyan can bring back face-down banished cards. This isn't even a new thing. Psyframe Lord OMEGA is the precedent, as it already brought back pot of desires cards.
Cards that are banished face-down are still considered as a Banished Card. Nyannyan can target any banished card, up or down.
If a target requirement or a card requirement has stats, card type, etc, then that would limit it to face up only. However, if it only requires a card (nothing else), then facedowns can be targeted.
PsyFrame Lord Omega can also bring back facedown banished cards during the Standby phase, again it also does not state the card type or stat.
Good video thanks. I wouldn’t touch this deck with a 39-1/2’ pole.
Looks at collection of sub meta decks with disappointment. (Gishki,tenyi,plunder,relinquished,unchained)
This deck was.. "submeta".. but... Not anymore...
Is retaliating the C or confronting the C? I think one of them is a mini macro cosmos.
Retailitating "C" is Macro if summoned by its way
How well would Deck Lockdown do against the deck?
Not much; you only stop their searchers
Book of moon
How would dimensional barrier fair as a virtual world counter
Counter to zoos too. It's alright imo
Ash and MST. Your welcome
impermanence stops cloudcastle
What about Ghost Ogre? It also destroys.
Its kinda... mEh...... Due to timing.
in a way my friend use virtual world and he is a fucking monster with that deck, if he takes first turn, he summons about 2-4 negates + shenshen and it's kinda of gameover when he does xD
You cannot XYZ summon for Zeus or Breaksword when your under Gozen. Zeus is light and Breaksword is dark, but you already control Earth or Wind.
I kinda cut the pause accidentally but it was suppose to be a separate sentence in relation to getting locked by the respective floodgate.
Gozen looks nice since you limit their extra deck to Wind or Earth only
Playing Yugioh on a budget just isn’t viably possible anymore...you either have the power cards or run one of the top stratedgies, or you automatically lose; Cause the opponent either locks you out of the game(literally or with multiple negates) or hand loops you.
It depends on your budget. The current meta isn't particularly expensive.
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@@diamonddudeygo More expensive than it’s been in quite awhile thats for sure..
@@Nephalem2002 It's pretty cheap. VW is anywhere from 100-200 bucks (unless you want TTTs, which is just fine right now), Dragon Link is pretty cheap, Eldlich and Invoked got reprints and dropped the prices a bunch, Zoo is pretty cheap outside of Zeus, and a lot of rogue decks are pretty cheap.
If you can justify not playing a Dogma deck, you should be fine with regards to finding a nice, cheap deck. (Especially with Gammas being a buck, Nibs being 7, Ash being 7.50-8, Veiler being 2, and Lancea being a buck. You can get most hand traps cheap.)
I know colossus gonna come back to 1
God send
Tactics isn’t terrible against this. Most players will wait for main phase and wait for something to be activated so they don’t get gamma’d
But... Why wait? When you have bamboozling and vfd?
so dimension shifter and Drnm seem like the best options.. having 3of each would give a good chance to open with 1... then eather way your set to make your play
or did i miss something?
Actually no, dark ruler is garbage I'd say, if they activate calamities during draw or standby then dark ruler doesn't do anything, and even if they let you enter main phase, if you activate dark ruler, they can chain chuche to pop dark ruler and then chain calamities to chuche so calamities resolve before your dark ruler, dimension shifter though is pretty good
Yeah dark ruler doesn't work and D. Shifter wrecks them, just like it wrecks any deck, and by any deck I mean it probably includes the deck you're playing it in.
Mind Drain?
Counters of vfd fly
@Maximilien Robespierre reaper is Amazing no one plays it
The only thing that's scary about that deck is vfd