BMW 335i Review - 440HP of N54 Boost!
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2017
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The BMW 335i is an interesting car. For this review, we hop in the N54 inline six turbo powered BMW 335i four door! The last time we drove one of these it was a lemon, so it was great to do the car justice for this in depth look and review of now one of my favorite BMW's. Thanks for watching!
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335i having an open diff is done because having the LSD in there would make it comparable enough to buying an M3. Similar enough to how people mod a WRX to make it comparable to an STI. Was told that if $3-5 k of mods can make up for a difference of 16k between an M3 and it's 3 series counterpart that even less M3s would be sold. (Friend who works at a BMW as a tech) But some research shows that you can have the dealer put in the M series LSD. The cost is about 2300 + labor. But not many know that is an option.
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I drove one of these and I was surprised because it didn't feel like it was going fast but I looked down and I was committing a felony
DMV Miata and Jeep yeah it's such a conservative car.. u can cruise at 120mph and it feels like nothing.
LegendInThaMakin because autobahn
DMV Miata and Jeep Yup! I have a 435whp 135i and this happens to me all the time. Just cruising on the freeway.. Oh! I'm going 110 mph.
DMV Miata and Jeep lmao I just bought one a few weeks ago, finally took it on the highway. Took off, little did I know I was going 130!!!! Haha
Dominic Trejo I'm glad I'm not the only one with the "problem". It should come with a radar detector.
N54 335i all the way! It's what built my RUclips channel to what it is today!
148K miles -18psi over the last 4 years of ownership - no major issues 😀
DIY is my fiend for all repairs 👍🏻
BMW Fanatic what is your general setup for 18 psi... dci, dp and e85? I'm sure you have a video on it but I didn't want to go looking lol
Evan Millett just DCI, JB4 G5 ISO on map 5, e30 mix with 93, CP-e charge pipe & Forge Motorsport Diverter valves (15-23psi springs added). Still on stock downpipes too (which do hurt me a little bit power wise, but it does great as is). Logs all look good and target that boost and hold it for the normal time with ease! I'm looking to upgrade to something bigger here in the next 6-10months from now, so I've been holding back on a few things lol.
BMW Fanatic stock dp?? So I guess you'd say it's pretty safe to run map 2 on stock dps? Here in va beach area e85 is easy to come by and the 93 is pretty good. Map 5 usually gets around 14-15 with just dci and 93 but I've been afraid to play with e85 and map 2 as a default because of stock dps. I like leaving it on map 1 as it feels smoother and more refined, so if map 2 was an option I'd be all over that... something bigger as in a different car or single turbo? That'd be cool. No one has really documented a single turbo transformation on RUclips
Evan Millett Stock dps, yep! I would not recommend map 2 with stock dps as other parameters are changed and not just "psi" levels. Map 5 is an auto tuning map, so it's touchy at times. Yeah I'm the same way with the map 5 with 93 only. I'm looking to do the JB4 backend flash via MHD which will shift the fueling and timing over the the DME and then the boost raised by 2psi on each map. Smoother and of course more power. Map 1 then gets to be around 15psi and would feel great. And then the other maps upped up as well, etc. I'll be doing that next since it really isn't much at all to add 👍🏻
Evan Millett Still BMW, so either a '14 550i with the N63TU (V8 TT) or the '14 X5 50i SUV with the same engine, just trying to decide on which really for my needs
who else is a part of the 335i crew? :D
YonOtto N54 135i; can I be apart of the crew too?
YonOtto yeah yeah
YonOtto 07 335xi 6 spd manual ftw!
N55 E90 crew
07 E90 Squad
My buddy has an 335i xdrive that he Daily drives that ran 11.9 in the quarter. These cars are crazy because they can be so fast but not be obnoxious. Great vehicle
I honestly think BMW didn't realize how good they made this car, so they had to make it worse so they could keep selling m3's
100 percent on that!
Do you mean they messed it up by coming up with n55?
mag iczny I wouldn’t say they messed up with the n55, they had learned from there first turbo motor that they do not need to over build as the had done. They then increased the efficiency and reliability of the motor at the cost of a portion of its tunability. Bmw made a business decision not a drivers decision.
Dude seriously that n54s no joke
No shit of course they know if your dumbass knows then how could they that built it and came up with everything wouldn’t know? It’s a bigger more modern inline 6 performance engine than the 325i so it has power just like the Supra and it has two intakes packed in a compact race ready light rwd shiftmatic coupe body so it’s basically unbeatable for convenience racing its only flaw from being absolutely perfect is it’s slightly lower power compared too a Ferrari or corvette zr1 due too it’s v6 which is fucking strong af either way but it’s not a giant v8 supercharged or a v12 ...
A lot of people saying they don't like this car. These cars are very balanced. Maybe some of you have driven it and maybe some haven't. For those that haven't - try it! If you still don't like it, respect (fistbump)
Dam I totally agree 💯
E90 Gang!
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the crayon smell happens in a lot of German cars its the glue used in the dash
In the e46, the sound deadening beneath/behind the rear seats degrade and make a very strong crayon smell. I removed it and had a big reduction in that smell. It could very well be the dash glue as well in most of them
Justin Kenaley yep, my 00 323i with 207k mi smelled like that. Oddly my 07 530i's floor mats have a mild odor
Yup, got the same smell in my mk4 golf
my trunk smells like a crayon factory. (05 330i zhp)
I thought it's because the Germans put wax on the leather upholstery, which is also what crayons are made of.
The best part about these BMW's is that they don't get pulled over very often.
Cops paid no attention to my 540ia and buddy has 335i. He says he has never been pulled yet in his and previous cars he was always in traffic school. I like sleepers personally.
That, and everyone else shrugs the car off too, "Eh. It's not an M3. Just a standard college girl 3 series". Until you see these 12 year old, 130,000+ mile FBO E85 N54's run with some of the quickest modern day performance cars. Truly an underrated engineering masterpiece. On paper they are not even strong engines, yet modify the N54 and it handles what you throw at it with ease. So much ease its almost like the engine is continuously taunting you to push it closer and closer to the limit.
Beautiful engine that can handle well north of 700whp. The crazy thing is the car remains such a tame and trustworthy daily driver even at those power levels. It's almost like your standard house cat. Indoors, they look so innocent. They sit on your lap, smile, and purr. Yet, let the cat outside, and you are quickly reminded it is one of the most agile, graceful, and successful hunters in the world.
Hmmm some what true 🔥👌🏻
@@zachm4973 that was well said
N54 the 2j of the 2000's
thank you
don't disrespect the 2J like that. these 335s run 12s and 13s
Yeah no the n54 is no where near the 2j. closest wold be a s50 or s52.
The n54 is very comparable I dont know where you have been the motor can handle 900 hp with stock internals
I own a 800 whp 335
hey man! love your reviews! you actually talk about very useful facts for people who are interested in purchasing a N54. awesome dude keep it up i'm surprised you don't have more subs
Cobb no longer supports the n54 platform, if you have a 135i/335i/535i, i would recommend going mhd or jb4
Once you get used to the paddles, you'll love them. So convenient to able to shift with just one had on the wheel
david keep up the good work man videos are amazing!!
Thank you for doing this! I love my 335i. Runs 12.1 1/4 mile on a stage 1 tune. If I'm ever around your part of town, you'll have to review mine. Ive got what he has, plus tons more.
The reason why it has the really high fuel pressure is because it's direct injected into the cylinder and has to overcome the compression I have a 335i and it's a bitch to work on
Jairo Canales and the hpfp goes bad ALL THE TIME. Not to mention because its direct injected that u have horrible carbon build up.. Not a good car if your not prepared to make repairs and dish out thiusands
Jairo Canales I love mine, work on it whenever I have any issues which like the starter and injector last summer. I don't have any major issues with mine at all. Plus, almost ALL new cars now a days are direct injection so some type of valve cleaning is gonna have to be needed and done anyways, but I have no complaints there.
Money Making Maniac it's not expensive to replace hee hpfp or the lpfp it's less than 700 for both of them and it will only take a combined 3 hours to replace both buddy.not "thousands"
Yep, main reason i went with a 330i instead
nah man, the HPFP has not been an issue sense like 2010,-2012 the revisions after that fixed all those issues
This car has been on my bucket list for years lol
Love the review. I was very disappointed and even shocked at the first one. Love how you rereviewed it!
I have a 09 135i with a Dinan stage 2 package. been good to me for the past two years. still every time I do a pull my heart races and I get a instant smile.
Fun fact: Mitsubishi turbos
They riddled the car with Mitsubishi components.
JDM? On MY previous German car??? Lol the best part is they even stamped BMW on the turbos too
Tim Beck is it really Mitsubishi turbos...cuz wen i had my 335i sedan n54 i check the forums alot n ppl call them tht....y tho?
It's just who supplied the turbos. Mitsubishi made them, gave them to BMW, they stamp BMW on it, and it goes in the car. They still gave Mitsubishi credit though
yes sir, same as some porsche panamera turbos and subarus too.
As a bmw enthusiast, I agree that the s54 from the e46 m3 is the weirdest sounding inline 6 bmw makes. You gotta be careful with exhaust setups otherwise it sounds really bad...
Amazing video as always David 👍
10:55 the reason there isnt a LSD in the 335 is because it would make it a lot more like the M3 and BMW still wants people to buy the high end sporty M series.
Also they use electronic trickery in the traction control to mimic an LSD.
Yes, but electronic controls are not even close to an LSD. LSDs haven't been in non-M since the mid 90s, IIRC.
Well the eLSD used brakes to mimic the a proper LSD. After putting in a proper LSD its a world of difference. Its as much of a difference as putting in a tune for the first time!
ritzzzzzwik no it’s not lol, stop spreading misinformation. Is it an improvement? Yes. Is it a day and night difference? No.
It's because off dsc no needing sry for English greets from bavaria
This brings me back to my ole B.M.Skrub
Woah you commented on this
N54 motor is beast! Awesome edit David
It was so awesome to meet you yesterday at slammedenuff. You signed my phone!! Thanks for being awesome !
It's about time you drove one of these! Your last video you were talking down on the 335i
Ayyy my is300 making an appearance!! :))
I just took out the back seats in my e46 and there was a rubber bed liner type thing that smelled like crayons! Ripped that shit out.
been waiting for this
You definitely have the gift of gab, and that's a good thing. I enjoyed your video. Thanks!
THE LEGENDARY BMW SMELLL!!!!!!!
I just bought one today ❤️
How's the reliability been?
how was the reliability?
I LOVE that Crayon smell! As others have mentioned, it is the sound deadening material. Lol
So clean awesome video i hope you can get the opportunity to review a modified evo x MR i am really wanting to see what you think about the SST transmission
Have you ever reviewed a Buick grand national?
Marvin Veerapen please review this or a T type.
13:14 sees cop lol
Have you ever considered doing a fly by or a take off so we can hear the exhaust from outside the car as well. Love the video either way keep them coming.
Drove one of these and the loved the power and torque
having the paddle shifters like that is amazing you can shift with just one paddle, never mind it being easier shift while taking a sharp turn aggresivly. Just because your use to something doesn't mean its better.
I have 08 535i and yep it smells like crayons haha
13 335i still smells like crayons lol
Rick Moises 2011 528i , i concur 😂
Used to drive an 05 525i for work, I vaguely remember it smelling like crayons.
My 07 530i is fine on odor, but man I am jelly Im actual shopping for an 08-10 535 with the sport Trans and sport suspension
Hell my 2000 540i smelled like crayons
The fuel system is the same in a lot of mini turbos as it is on my r55, a fuel pump in the rear and then high pressure one in the front.
Primary fuel system is good for the long haul. Adding port injection with lots of pumps is really as deep into it as you can get, and even that is pretty easy.
At 4:20 seems like the upshift button is not registering, he pressed it twice at 4:20 and 4:24 :p, still didn't register.
He was probably in the highest gear
when you're at say 1500rpm it doesn't let you upshift because there wouldn't be enough power to accelerate
SavvasAlexandrou he was already in 6th
N54 ftw
literally my dream car! I sold my fully built 2004 wrx to hopefully pick one up soon. LOVR THIS CAR!
did your dreams come true?
Did it
I have a newer one with the N55 and still love that car
N54 = Modern 2JZ
I'm assuming you own a 135i. Do you know if the fuel pump setup is the same as the 335i? (low pressure pump in the rear, high pressure up front) I REALLY want a 135i at some point, but with the fuel pump issues that the 335i has; i would have to get 128i instead because it's way too expensive to replace the pumps.
Let me know if you have the answers!
Cheers from a fellow BMW owner
Zach Mockett there is a 10 year 120k mile warranty on the pumps, so you really shouldn't worry about it
jhchickens last n54 were 2010 at least in the 135i. Approaching the end of the warranty.
Michael Cohen yea that's what i was thinking. No doubt a warranty is great, but unfortunately the 135i will be much more than 10 years old when I actually want one. (probably in 2 or 3 years since I just bought my e46 330xi)
Don't worry about the HPFP anymore, they used to be a large issue however the last pumps put out are holding on fine.
It's the smell of a car with no blinker fluid
I'm just gonna say it .... David .... You make the best edits on RUclips in the car community ... there ...
I subleased a 335i 6 speed coupe and I loved it!!
JB4 FTW!!
Brandon Williams but this was COBB tuned...
Do a 335d!
Sani Laca yeeeees! Now that would be a real experience of torque!
i think the 330d is a better car to do
Jarvie Stenhouse we only have the 335D in the US.
Tyler Beeson we have both in the USA lol.
Justin K no we have both
YESS the E90 have always souneded amazing with the right mods, I recently got mine, I wanna start to mod it, where should I start???
I actually agree with you on the engine sounds
They don't all smell the same. My grandma's e23 smells like cat pee.
Why didn't you review Adams 335?
AllThingsRandom1000 because I only had time for one car review there. There's always another time. Plus, this is an identical car for the most part but faster.
ThatDudeinBlue identical except for one major part, the transmission! Adam complimented his sporty 335 with a proper six speed manual
maxxjett films have you driven this auto, honestly? It's quick and clever. I love it. And this is the version where both paddles work in both directions. Pull towards you with either paddle to go up the gears. Push away to click down the gears. Better for changing mid corner when compared to the newer crappier paddles where one side is + and the other is -. With those + / - in mid corner you could go up or down a gear because you have to pull both towards you.
Gear change is quick and also smooth. Try one. Americans seem to be the only market really into manuals because most of your cars are autos. Europeans like the fast autos because we were raised on manuals are poor man cars and work vans, autos are for expensive cars.
Ted335i I have driven plenty of bmws, most of them autos. they do shift fast, but they are completely different from the manual counterparts. My only beef was that he said they were identical. having an auto regardless of how good or bad it is gives a different personality and driving experience from a manual. now identical except for a trim package yes, the car will essentially be the same, different transmission means a different driving experience.
maxxjett films If you want to drive at the maximum then you use a fast auto with paddles. If you want to drive slower, one hand steering, then you use a manual.😀
The auto gearbox and paddles on the 335i of this generation gets great reviews. Try before you criticise.
I picked up a 2007 335i about 6 months ago. I’ve usually have a BMW in the garage from E36’s E46’s. Went with this one because of ratings, price it was and how well these engines are. I’ve cleaned up a few things and did all the maintenance, then added performance parts and a few different tunes for different fuels. I love the car, BMW’s just feel aggressive and luxurious at the same time BUT the only thing these and the newer F series engines are missing is the Vanos Noise/Grunt and the power ban you would feel when the timing changes. Now I know on a factory Turbo engine you more rely on boost than timing BUT if your going to claim a Vanos engine it needs to jump at you like the older S and M engines.
To me, this is modified right. More of a sleeper.
Hell yea I agree🔥🔥
my friend owns this car yo I'm in a group chat with him too
Aidan Parker no u
Oh no..
High pressure fuel pumps are part of direct injected gas engines. My Saturn Sky's ecotec engine has the same thing. Usually when the stock fuel setups aren't enough, you add a secondary port injection system.
I had an 07 too. Great car! Worst thing about the car is the throttle delay imo. Expensive to fix but not so bad if you can diy when you can.
glad you mentioned the open diff... it pisses me off, what were they thinking...
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I'm selling my vw cc sometime this year and buying an e90 335i. I don't want a n55, gotta be the n54. this is the new supra for sure, just isn't doing the 1/4 times but meh. I want a highway rocket
Great cars work on them everyday. Direct port injections is a world of a difference. And the can handle about 600 stock block. Fun cars great video.
Why is it everytime you do a review you make me want to go buy THAT car haha
ahh yes, the N54. Mine has 165k on it and the engine feels like it's brand new. It's not the M3 but with the low end torque and highway economy it's a better daily anyway. Can't beat the value you get from this car, even with the random stupid issues it can have.
And that's how you know a true owner from not. Weird problems. these cars hardly have bad car killing issues it's all sporadic and little stuff that piles up x3 I love my n54 to death tho
ALL BMWS SMELL THE SAME! thats facts lol
So I've got a 2001 330i sedan. With a six speed. And it's so much fun!! For what it is stock it performs so well. Especially in the higher rev range. It's got a good amount of Torque. It sits flat with hardly any body roll thru the corners. It feels planted. It's got enough power for fun. It looks good AND it's reliable. Next I'm hoping to find a 325i touring so I can swap the 330i motor into it.
Yes finally. N54 deserves so much more attention
Shoutout to all the people watching this in school
lol cobb tune making 440 wheel. Try MAYBE 340whp
atvmxracer54 Further along in the video he states that it has catless downpipes and a muffler delete as well. You can also see an AFE dual cone intake. Additionally, cars that are this heavily modified will also have a front mount intercooler. So, after combining all of the aforementioned modifications along with the proper, higher-level Cobb tune, 440whp is not unlikely.
Brian Donahue just a jb4 takes you to around 400 so it's not unlikely.
Man I love my 335i this car is a sleeper and it blends in compared to the m3 where it's just draws attention. I still want a e9X M3 one day for sure
this is pretty cool for sure. Honestly i never seen a modded 335i before unless it was the coupe so this is pretty cool in itself i'm glad you did one because i enjoyed this a lot. i have seen video of some bmw straight six motors tuned to a rediculous level like 2j level and i dont know if they were the n54 but think it could reach that level easily since it seems to handle 440 WHP like a breeze. i would love to see you drive a BMW with a straight six at a stupid HP level just to see what you think.
lol cobb tuned?
yes, its currently just on a OTS tune. soon to be protuned ;)
I would strongly suggest switching to MHD on Android way better tables and more potential to make more power. also some tuners only use it.
Dylan Foster it won't make a difference soon enough when I go get protuned
Matt Ogilvie it will make a huge difference, mhd has many more defined tables, features, support etc
Cobb is dead. MHD stacked with JB4 or even standalone is the way to go. Everyone knows this
89th!!!! Yayyy numbers!
Sarah -n- Tuned love your videos! You're gonna blow up someday
Thanks!! Haha, I hope not, that sounds painful!
I had a 2001 Jetta GLS that smelled the same. I liked it.
the 2 fuel pump thing is actually very common with direct injection cars. the high pressure fuel pump is usually called a cam driven fuel pump and I know Mazda's DISI MZR motor uses one. As do the newer turbo Fords.
Now try a 135i with the same mods
Jason Stutes 200 lbs lighter. It makes a difference but unless you drive them back to back I think it would be hard to tell.
Basically no difference. Gimme a break
the shorter wheelbase makes a huge difference
Jason Stutes 135i are heavy cars for their size
33k lbs is not heavy for its size. my 135 is bigger than my e46 sedan .
Not even an m sport smh
rs yuh they didn't offer M-sport in this year. It's a sport package car
Matt Ogilvie that's interesting, America got screwed there
indeed
I have this car and love it. There’s something about the hydraulic steering and high speed stability of this car. I recently drove an f30 500 miles and it was almost unnerving with the floaty electric power steering.
The bad part about the n54 is it’s not as smooth as the n55 or as reliable. Gotta weigh the difference if you’re buying used. Personally I’d go for the n55 if a daily and n54 if you’re modifying.
The n54 is just more robust to get big numbers from, but the n55 will be more bulletproof.
The lack of dipstick is not that huge of a problem it has two level sensors and one or two oil pressure sensors. You can get an oil stick mod for it if you really want it, it is pretty convinient because it says how many oz or ml to add for full.
Also if you got it with DKG (DCT) then it has conventional left paddle pull downshift...
N54 engines are definetly the most unreliable cars as far as injectors going bad. Turbos go bad, fuel pumps go bad", wAterpump goes bad etc...thats why i sold my e90 lci 335i. If your not prepared to spend 5k at any given momen in repairs STAY AWAY
i wonder how many more comments you gonna post about reliability. Maybe you got a lemon ? 4 years driving a 10 year old car. OEM injectors, HPFP, LPFP, only thing changed since 60k miles is water pump, its above 100k miles now. You keep telling your self how bad the engine is, eventually engine will weed out the weak sauses. Glad people like you are not related to BMW anymore, WEAK.
Money Making Maniac Most had the problems rectified under warranty. my 335i is solid.
YonOtto oh well if u have warranty then yes its a great car because when it breaks its free to repair. But when out of warranty. Way too expensive to fix
Money Making Maniac You are right i had a lot of trouble on my injectors .. something else i hated was the differential
Money Making Maniac Most of the problems actually come from the awful gas quality you guys have in the US. It's not a coincidence that the most frequent problems are fuel related (hpfp, injectors, carbon build-ups, etc).
Great video! I want a Beamer now...
How often do you break things with this amount of power on a stock 335i?
There's a channel that uses this car in drag races and total investment including the car and mods was like 35k and it smokes Lamborghini's, GT-Rs, Corvette's, etc all day. It's crazy how cheap you can put together a rocket because of how solid this engine is.
Theres a digital gauge to check the oil. use the left stalk on the steering wheel column to access is .
How does the gearbox cope with the increased torque and hp?
Im thinking of bumping up my hp, im currently around 360hp in the engine but im starting to think that its slow.
I have a 2009 BMW 335i e90 sedan and when I do burn out it leave two tire marks. Found out when you turn off traction control it acts as locked diff. Has to do with the electronic diff.
that low pressure to high pressure fuel system is actually very common. it's used on all Kia's with the gdi engines. most turbo charged engines these days will have that system stock. it's a fantastic set up though
David I luv ur vids
The weels are CSL style (from E46).
Just bought a 2014 335i an this car in general is so fucking nice, I’m In love with it.
Just bought one and I love it! Seriously one of the fastest car I ever had and a mustang gt pulled up and we went from a dig. He got me but after 30 mph i was gaining on him and smoked him
Can you list the mods done to this car please
Had a e92 with 450whp jb4 and it was my favorite car yet
Interesting. How would a diff change the cars' characteristics in the case of this tuned 335i? Nice review. PSS could easily be the best street tyres. Luv 'em. Great vid, loved the humor as well.
Dbn Poldermans much better handling
notification squad! here before 1000 views! BMW FUCK YEAH!!
YES! Every single Volkswagen I have been in smelled like crayons. I'm glad someone else brought that up