Tudor is Now Better than Rolex (Change My Mind).
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2022
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The Tudor Ranger...Michael recently made a video on it and compared it to the Rolex Explorer and the Black Bay 36. How does it stack up? Now that we have Christian on the floor what does he think? Is this another homer from Tudor or does it just not stack up? Let us know you opinion below!
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Please change the battery of the smoke detector 😂
I thought it was mine while watching 😂
As soon as someone online called the hour hand on the Ranger "butt-plug shaped" it was ruined for me.
Damn the inter-web.
Damn it to hell.
@@mkii2363
"If the butt-plug fits..."
For me, it looks more tempting to buy now 😂
I stated after I bought my 41mm Tudor Ranger that I would buy a new Tudor Ranger if they would only make it in a 38-39mm version. My local Tudor AD has had squat when it comes to any newer (2022) models. When Tudor announced the new Ranger in 39mm I really wanted to like it. And I did sort of, but had never seen one in person and had only Tudor and watch reviews to look at to make any determination.
Fast forward to 3 days ago and I'm at Heathrow airport in London awaiting my flight back to the US. Like any watch geek I go over to the Watches of Switzerland shop in the International terminal and finally have a chance to actually see the new Tudor Ranger. They had just one with bracelet. I'd love to tell you that I fell in love with it at first sight but I think I was too busy figuring out the exchange rates and thinking about getting home. But I pulled the trigger, bagged up the watch, and brought it home. Finally yesterday I got it on wrist. And you know, I think I love this watch.
Even I had some reservations about this Ranger before putting it on wrist. You know, the empty space on the dial, the faux patina thing, and a couple other things reviewers had talked about. But this Ranger just works. Then I started thinking about this watch and the dial. In my mind it sort of reminds me of the Rolex Explorer 1016; just bigger and brawnier. And I really like that look. So I would say don't pass judgement on this watch till you have it on wrist. Oh and by the way, with the strong US Dollar to the British Pound it worked out to about $2,600.
Thanks for sharing. I might just make a trip to my local AD to check it out in person!
I just cannot manage to find anything about that dial that I like😂 great case though like you both said! Would definitely look better smaller. But now Tudor offers an Explorer alternative in a size that Rolex doesn’t offer anymore. Filling in the gaps.
I like the numbers on the Ranger. I really like that the Ranger doesn’t have a lot of print.
I love the proportions of the new Ranger. The lume looks like a vintage lume I own rather than a fauxtina.
The field book idea is absolutely brilliant. I think a NATO included would have been great too (See the Pelagos including a rubber dive strap in the box). Tudor, pay these people for doing your marketing job. I can see the case for a "Chronometer Officially Certified" (2 lines) on the dial, but I'd want to see it first. The AD I've been in to since that came out didn't have one in stock, so I haven't seen it in person. My issue is the color of the lume doesn't look quite right to me. I love the fauxtina lume on the Black Bay Pro, and the slightly different Black Bay 58 creamy lume. I think Tudor nails it better than anybody on the fauxtina. I think they just missed here. I would also love to see that printing turned into the 3D lume of the Black Bay Pro. I think the 39 is a great size (for me) though. The 41mm Ranger would have fit, but was maybe a bit more than necessary for a field watch (don't get me started on the non-fitted bracelet end links). I don't think there is a shortage of big watches for guys that want those, so I think the increased availability of smaller watches is great for those that are smaller, or just prefer that.
I'm a tall guy, and 34 or 36 just wouldn't work on me like it does on some people. Sure, I could wear 36mm dress watch, but I rarely need a dress watch. I haven't had anything even as small as 36mm for 30 years, well before the big watch trend. Even back then, it was 38-40mm. I love a good 38 like the Seiko SBP155 Alpinist, but on me 38/39 looks like 36 does on a lot of other people. I've seen it literally stated in RUclips comments that any guy wearing bigger than 36 is compensating. Do you tell any guy wearing bigger than a small t-shirt that actually fits their body that they're compensating? No. Different size watches fit different size wrists/statures. The sub has been in the 40mm range for basically even longer than I've been alive. Classic sizes are classic for a reason. I think the small watch trend will be just that, a trend like the big watch trend. Watches appropriately sized and somewhere in the middle are always going to look great.
I don't normally read longer comments but I'm glad I read yours. You are exactly right! Nice to see some common sense in the comments section for a change.
The Ranger reminds me of the 1016 explorer, without the gold surrounds, and bling free. I love it.
Your thoughts about the Ranger reminding you of the Explorer 1016 are mine exactly. I'm really liking the look and feel of this watch on my wrist.
What is Rancher? Or do you mean kenissi in general?
I do absolutely love recent Tudor releases, very artfully produced and you can actually get one! However I gotta side with Michael on this one it does look like they could’ve added a little bit more to the dial or changed the format great video guys🔥
Love your vids and keep up the good work. I noticed though in the last couple vids some weird squeak sound in the background like when the battery is low on a fire alarm
PLEASE CHANGE THE SMOKE ALARM BATTERY 😂😂😂
I think of the Ranger as a field watch that an army Ranger might wear. In that sense it gives you the time in a very easy and fast to view dial. Seems like more text would reduce the effect of that intent. I 100% agree that a field notebook should come with the watch!
I like the lack of Text. It makes ist more serious. Less G-Shock more utility and adventure. That's why I don't like dive watches. Plenty useless things. The numbers on the bezel are pure decor. It's not even pretty. In my opinion the Tudor Ranger is the perfect outdoor timepiece.
why would you want MORE dial print? LESS IS MORE!
The field notes idea is great Christian. Bravo
Great video, I love the ranger. Also, can you change the battery in the smoke alarm? K thanks bye.
The only bad thing about Tudor Ranger is, it is way too big. 36mm would be much better, even 34mm is not small too. The thing is, for simple layout watches, it should be smaller. Otherwise, it doesn't look balance on wrists.
This ranger is one of best watches Tudor has released. I definitely want to get one.
Put the name Rolex on the dial and you guys both would totally love it
This is a well considered and very fair review. I agree with both of you. The dial is a little bland but otherwise the overall design is great, brilliant case, brushed finishing takes scratches etc much better. This is designed to be a tool watch to be used. The movement is also excellent and the price is great. The explorer has great heritage but nowadays is fashionable and pretty and not realistically something you wear hiking up a mountain or camping etc. the notebook idea is wonderful. Keep it up chaps
Not fan of the Ranger but Tudor overall is more interesting than Rolex in my opinion.
We are speaking about a tool field watch. If someone is in the middle of a tempest with low light one would like to have legibility. So I think 39 mm is fine.
Visited a Tudor boutique 6 months ago hoping to purchase either:
1) FXD
2) BB Pro
3) Pelagos 39
I tried a Ranger just for the heck of it… and ended up connecting with the Ranger far more than the original 3 I was considering. I was totally shocked as I had wanted the FXD for over a year…
Moral of the story: try watches on in person whenever possible!
Also brushed watch bezels & cases add substance & strength that’s hard to quantify.
The part regarding the comment on your post of you wearing a small watch was one of the most tasteful burns I have ever seen lol. Please send that dudes instagram name 😂😂
I like the Ranger on the hybrid strap, I have tried one on. I am wearing a 34mm Kienzle which was my grandads, then my dads, it has been well abused over the years , yet it's still going and looks great, I have a 7inch wrist and if I wore a watch set for my dads wrist it would spin round on my wrist, yet he wore this watch for years.
Really enjoyed this conversation on culture and masculinity - interesting, important takes, thanks guys!
who picked the font on your B-roll shots? It looks really nice.
The BB36 is the way to go, especially the blue dial.
You get black dial in some low light, and a great “Hamptons Blue” in good light.
Better case size too.
I've got the 41mm Heritage and I wouldn't trade it for the new one, even though it has the new in-house movement.
It's true these watches are better in person.
It's hard to listen to a couple Itty bitty little dudes say the new Ranger should be 36mm is a little bit self serving, because that would be too small for me. 39mm? Would probably work for most people and that's why they changed the size. Interestingly, my local Tudor AD said when I mentioned the new smaller sizes that "most people still bought the larger Tudors"
I actually wouldn't be terribly surprised to find out that Rolexes return to 36mm on the Explorer wasn't as successful as anticipated.
Great subject. Today I would never wear anything above 40 mm. 25 years ago my first Breitling was 42 mm but I was also 24 at the time so that´s what size reflects. A bigger sized watch exposes your natural lack of wisdom and genuine self esteem. 34 to 37 mm however is an excellent size to complement yourself on having reached a level of maturity that doesn´t need anyone´s approval and the cases and dials are usually more well proportioned & well balanced too. That Cartier is f*ckin amazing. A stone col killa'...
It’s all proportions: a 35mm sea wolf has the right proportions and makes me look like an adult but a Ball engineer would make me look like a child. What’s the saying about the size of the bush and the tree?
I just bought the Tudor Royal in 38mm just because I like wearing something that looks different than everyone else.
Everyone wants a 41/42mm case, and I’m over here with a 36/38mm that actually fits under my cuffs…
I'm watching a couple of videos about the ranger and it makes me laugh. I mean, come on. This watch is so cheap for what it offers. In house movement, automatic, 70hr power reserve, sapphire glass, great bracelet, antimagnet, COSC certified, said by tudor to be actually more accurate than COSC requirements, antimagnetic, 100 meters, thin. 3000 bucks (plus discounts). Come on. There are a lot of ETA movement watches that go for more money. This is such a steal compared to similar watches, compare it to an acquaterra for 6000$! This is "Nomos" territory of "I can't believe it's that cheap" but with a form factor that actually matches current fashion (and yet is still it's not a sub). And from Tudor, not a semi-unknown company. AND on a model with actual deep heritage. Come on, it's a steal.
Considering that Edmund Hilary had a Smiths on his wrist and the Rolex was in his pocket. Which watch was really the first on everest? But the Rolex marketing machine made it happen. These guy are masters of their craft.
I think it needed applied indices rather than printed luminescent. That would have added something extra to the dial.
I love the lack of text on the face. It's nice to have something different for once. It's a tool watch, no need for frivolity or waste. There are plenty of other watches with more text on face.
I think the ranger certainly should be improved in the next years and it is a missed opportunity to not launch it as a second line next to the BB. Make the BB Pro thinner and call it Ranger Pro and add an early Rolex Chrono inspired piece (maybe a modernised Oyster Chronograph ref. 4080) and you have a nice complete lineup with time only, GMT and Chrono next to the BB.
As a continuation of the point about watch sizes and “masculinity”. It baffles me that we continue to perpetuate this ideology and correlation between masculinity and larger sized items. I believe you can distinguish far greater masculinity through an individuals confidence rather than through oversized material object. E.g Christian and the Cartier he wore, it takes genuine masculinity, confidence and style (in todays society) to wear and pull that off… and he does.
Love the Freddy sweater, perfect for Halloween! 🎃
I bought a Tudor Ranger a month ago for MSRP. It had just come in and I got the only one. I like the minimalist watch-face/dial and big arabic numerals. As a field watch you'd want it to be easy to read! However, after all- it [the Ranger] is just a high-end but basic field watch that happens to be COSC at a decent price. An elaborate dial would clash with the stylish rugged simplicity of the Ranger as well as adding $$$ to the price. Consider that the Rolex Explorer isn't much more "fancy" but retails at more than twice the price. I like my Rolexes but am really impressed with certain Tudor models. I plan to add more.
I think the watch would be better looking if the indices had more of a 3D effect. Like how the BB Pro has ceramic lume indices. I think it would look better too. The indices would at least make the matt dial take more of a backseat
Just need to see it in person. Watches in photograph that look amazing can miss the mark in person, but watches that look dull in photos/video can be incredible in person. I'm a sucker for a matte dial, so I'll probably like it, but all your criticisms seem on point.
This happened to me with the Seamaster 300! Almost bought it online and then went into an AD with the intent to buy and hated the bracelet! Still think it’s one of the best dials out there.
@@TennesseeHoney12 I went strap (with clasp) for the SMP 300. Looks significantly better and far more comfortable.
Godspeed on your journey through life.
The Tudor Ranger is a Sinn 556a with a much better case, a much better movement, and a much better bracelet.
Or a less refined explorer
The dial looks like someone did a bad photoshop job and printed it on an at home printer.
1. Love the videos
2. Change the battery in that 🔥smoke detector 🔥already!
Vintage all the way 🌹 the older Tudor / Rolex / Omega watches kick this Ranger's ass...also for something alternative, IWC Mark XVI is available for pretty much the same price. They are stunning watches
I like this conversation about masculinity and culture more with regards to watch trends. You should continue this conversation for a future episode.
nice review - all brushed painted dial no date beauty
What watch is Michael wearing in this video? I like that you took out wristwatch checks from the videos. They are always a bit clunky and break up the flow. Maybe put it in the description? You can also link to any photos of the watches that you are wearing from your insta or something. Cheers!
Looks like a zenith chronomaster revival El primero shadow
@@aneeshwagle8892 That's definitely it. Thanks!
Agree that's it's the dial proportions that make the Ranger fee off
After being on waiting list for the new Ranger over 2 months I got the call. I ended up turning it down. I already own the Heritage Ranger and feel the new one isn’t perfection. I’ll instead go for a Pelagos 39.
“The Explorer that went to Everest…wasn’t really an Explorer” and didn’t go up Everest 😉😗
I love the simplicity of the dial. I’m not a fan of a busy dial. Well done Tudor.
If they rereleased the original watch from the expedition it would be my first Tudor. This Ranger is a clunker.
As a Italian American growing up in the Bronx NY and the 5 boroughs in the 90s seen alot of Rolex DJ,John Gotti Ultra thin Piaget dress watches, Cartier Santos/Tanks, Submariners and Omega Constellations but nothing bigger than 40mm and that's what they still wear . If someone told one of those guys that was a girl's watch They would have caught a beating real quick 😆these dudes who think guys should wear a 48mm case size watch ⌚ are stuck in the mid 2000s. They looked bad then a still look bad. No reason to go past 43 or 44mm and on the Tudor Ranger situation the piss colored lume destroys the watch. Waiting list for a Ranger 🤦♂️that's just to funny
I agree. To me personally smaller watches looks best on bigger man. At least that’s what I’m wearing everyday, 36mm Daydate Platinum on leather strap.
@@watchmunch3240 Agreed 👍 I'm 6ft 1 and my 2 daily watche's are a Rolex Submariner 14060m and a Explorer 114270z
Tony Soprano wore a “girls watch.”
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 You are truly a man of fine taste. I purchased Explorer 124270 as a birth year watch for my now 19 months old son. I prefer not to sleep with my watches, except that watch. Whenever my son is far away from me, visiting his grandma. I sleep wearing his Explorer. Glad it’s a smaller watch and barely noticeable on the NATO strap.
@@watchmunch3240 Ty brotha and great story that's awesome 👌 the Explorer is so dam comfortable. It's Hands down the most comfortable watch ⌚ I own. One thing about Rolex they know how to make a comfortable watch.100p
If you place things into cultural context historically men didn’t wear watches on their wrists, they had pocket watches until Louis Cartier designed the Santos.
How is a Cartier Tank “beta” when it was designed specifically for an American army general and the design was evocative of a tank?
Because fashion and culture.
High heels were originally invented for men and pink was seen as a manly color.
crown guards should be on this piece , if its an 'explorer' , a watch for adventure ~ JDS/CT. be safe.
The Tudor Ranger just looks "off." But I don't think the current Explorer looks so great, either (vintage references are spectacular, though).
Currently, I don't think any of the big luxury players have really nailed the field watch the way Hamilton has with its best Khaki references.
Genuine curiosity: what do you dislike about the look of the current Explorer compared to the vintage iterations?
Sure, @@triniboy05.
The chunky case of the modern Explorer is significantly less attractive than the early, sleek oyster cases that gave the Explorer an elegant feeling. It was the gentleman's field watch (and the original Bond watch, while we're on that point).
The face proportions are also off now, with the scrunched, chunky numerals in that increasingly dated typeface (they scream 90s/early 00s "sporty"). The triangle at 12 feels like it should be bigger to balance them out, but really they should just go to a new typeface altogether, one that feels timeless.
@@thetrueconnoisseur hmm interesting points. Thanks for expounding!
I appreciate your response to that small watch beta comment. It is objectively true that on a general societal level, as our testosterone has decreased over time, our watches have become bigger. With that in mind, it seems like the opposite to the point they were trying to make is true.
Bigger wrists too.
Idk about you but my test is 1100ng/dl
@@thorodinson376 You must have a tiny watch 😂
It's fashion. It comes and goes and comes back again.
Smaller watches is a forced meme by watch companies to cut material costs.
Great videos guys, but can one of you please replace the battery in that smoke detector, the beep over the last couple episodes is like Chinese water torture
Just started to listen to this podcast (enjoying it). bit have to say that early in ep10 Christian saying “I have very poor control of my mouth” (when discussing diction) is unintentionally (?) hilarious
I was on the market for this style of watch and went for Longines Spirit 37mm, I believe it has much more personality. This Ranger release was in the right time but I was disappointed with how it looks. There is also something about Tudor's 39mm releases looking too similar to each other, having one BB58 don't really want to get another clone.
How is the Sprit 37mm wearing? I think its brilliant.
@@muzjikstb I'm receiving mine hopefully next week but I tried at AD and it looked perfect on my 16.5cm wrist, felt much lighter than BB58 and the glass was like invisible on a black dial. Their 40mm models felt too big for me and not as refined.
I won’t say that Tudor is better than Rolex. But certainly, Tudor has successfully gained its own identity away from Rolex.
This watch is absolutely safe if you wear it when travelling in Europe.
Love the ranger❤
Time to change the battery in that fire detector!
I’m definitely holding out for the 36mm
*Not gonna happen.*
@@joeskeptical4762 we can dream
@@joeskeptical4762
Everyone said the same when I hoped for a smaller Pelagos. It happened.
The explorer definitely is better then the ranger, but the 36mm tudor is on par with the op of rolex
That Tudor 7808 is absolutely beautiful
Men’s dress watches 36mm, Sport/Tool 40mm. Period end of story. After years of demanding bigger better in your face watches now watch geeks are demanding more traditional watch sizing. We’ve come full circle which proves Watch geeks don’t know what they want
Love my blue bb36
Maybe take the watch out on an adventure, then the purposes of some of the design features will become more apparent.
With regards to the 'idea of masculinity being defined by the size of a watch'... erm, no. Being confident enough to wear what you want - whether large or small faced watch' - is far more masculine than bowing to the peer pressure of 'alpha wannabes' suggesting that wearing a big watch shows 'manliness'. Don't be a sheep. Wear what you like, what you enjoy, what suits you and your purpose, and wear it with pride.
title might be bait but it represents my opinion completely
Dare: T&H cannot go 1 video without saying Rolex at some point.
There is a problem if you derive your masculinity by the size of your wrist watch. That guy was crazy.
Even pilots watches weren’t all that large by today’s standards. The massive B Uhr Observation watches measuring around 55mm were worn by the navigators of the German aircraft. The pilot wore a chronograph which was hacked to the navigator’s watch. Those pilot watches were easily under 40mm.
Well played on the “title confidence”! 😂 anywho - if the best remarks on the Ranger are the strap and wanting a Field Book to be included - speaks volumes about the watch lol
It should definitely be a 36 mm case watch.😤
Imho there is not a genre of watch stylistically where a Rolex is more aesthetically pleasing to me. The BB Pro is a better looking watch than the Explorer, the Pelagos looks better than a Sub and the Ranger is more of a tool watch than the Explorer
Just get a tudor north flag, much better and rarer.
20 percent Scandinavian divided by two = 14%. You guys are great. Content is great. But, that was pretty funny.
Hi, I’m Christian-blue watch-brown strap-green burgundy pink shirt-tortoiseshell glasses-orange skin, curator of Theo and Harris. Trust me on style advice for lookin good and feelin fly 😉😜
weird watch,sometime it look ugly and sometimes it look good
Change the battery in your smoke detector😂😂😂😂
Love my Ranger
Has there been a high pitched smoke detector-esque beeping in the background for the last few videos, or am I going crazy? Examples just after 1:15, 1:49, 2:17, 2:50, and so on.
Sadly we record the videos in batches so yes :/ but the good news is that this is the last one!
I paused the video and listened to make sure it wasn’t mine.
Make it 36 with applied indices!
Can we talk about that El Primero Shadow that Michael is wearing tho
Thanks, I was wondering what watch Michael was wearing. That's why wristwatch checks should be mandatory for youtube watch video's... ;-)
The BB36 is a better “Explorer” than the Ranger or the Rolex, you can take it camping, alpine river swimming, you name it, yet it dresses up better then either IMO. It’s killer with a suit.
The Explorer is the King 🤴 the other's are just wannabes.
fixed springbars? sounds a bit like a tree alone in the forest.
I gotta say, that whole discussion about masculinity regarding watch sizes is utter nonsense. YET, there is an almost mathematically explicit size/aspect ratio of a watch to each wearers' wrist that looks good. Everything that is too much over or under that ratio does not. Seeing your wrist not being the largest, anything from 36 to 39 mil. should fit amazing. Anything under just doesn't look as good, regardless of the watch type imo. If you like a more refined, maybe jeweled, dress watch, just pick it in that perfect size for your wrist, even if the original was 34 mil or whatever. Original doesn't always mean best, just because it came first.
Tudor is the low budget strategy from rolex, they don't wanna put tudor as the same level of rolex, they wanna keep tudor in the price range of $2k to $5k, that's tudor market, they already have rolex at the other end, so buying this strategy, u are also falling on rolex plan, they make money or either on your " best value tudor concept" or "I made it in life paying 2 or 3 times a retail price of a rolex ", either way u are feeding the same cow.
4:47 Keep sipping that Tudor Kool-aid. Residual values of Tudor speak volumes. Keep talking the brand up guys.
Even in the hands, the only thing impressive is the bracelet. The fauxtina and case size is so off-putting.
This is some serious over analyzing...bottom line is that this is a nice watch that's super and simplicity at its finest..."if" anything it would have been nice to offer a few different colors on the face...but as it is and it's price TOUCHDOWN
Stop it with the smaller watches…37-42 is the average men size!
Have to jump in to defend the Cartier Tank. I’m no bodybuilder but I’m a decent sized guy that can lift more than at least 98% of the people on this planet. The Tank is a classic. Put the person who left that comment next to me wearing a Cartier and then decide who the actual beta is. I think we all know the answer.