I only have a Duofold. I've admired the 823 for many years but it just seems like it would be a pain to clean and I like to change ink a lot. Maybe if I get to go to Japan one day, I'll buy one there, otherwise converters are just easier to deal with and to clean. And I do love my Duofold. It was my first 'nice" pen and I've had it for 33 years. Thanks for the great comparison!
Definitely it’s the Parker Duofold Centennial for me. I’ve had mine for 30+ years. My mom gave it to me for my Christmas birthday. I read the literature and sent it back to Parker for complimentary engraving of my initials and a complimentary nib exchange (for an oblique). I love that pen as much as the first time I inked it. I’ve had my Pilot Custom 823 for a year or two, but I just don’t like it as well as reviewers do.
Lookswise, I like the Parker, but am bored by the Pilot. Filling-systemwise, I prefer, substantially, cartridge/converters, i.e. Parker. Nibwise, I do a lot of reverse writing, so Parker. Pricewise, both are beyond my limit ($200), though possibly used I could afford the Pilot. So, three points for the Parker, but trumped by the Pilot's less extravagant price. In the actual world I do own a 743 (bought USED), the same pen as the 823 but still a cartridge/converter. Superb pen, and available stock with the nib.
The 743 with a Falcon nib is a really good pen as well. Maybe it belongs in this series as well. I have an extra #15 fine nib, so I could do it. But you're right that the variety of nibs in the 743 is a good perk. Pilot has some nibs that are not available from the Parker. To be fair...Parker has some nibs that Pilot doesn't have. And a lot easier to clean.
Cheers! My Friend! The Pilot Custom 823 would be my preference. It is a uniquely brilliant pen. My Duofold is vintage and rather average, but I respect and appreciate a different perspective.
I have several vintage Duofolds. They each have a different personality...and one needs serious nib work. I enjoy the Pilot Custom 823 very much, and it was my first "nice" pen. This video really came down to details to me, and I've never thought these videos were objective. Thank you for hearing me out!
I have a Parker Duofold (M) of recent vintage and two Pilot 823 pens (M & F). I love them all but I've never compared them directly. I will have to take them out and try them side-by-side to see what's what. Thanks for the excellent video! Edit: I do think your 823 Fine writes with a thicker line than mine. My 823 F seems more like an XXF than a Fine but it writes well and reasonably wet for a nib that fine. Thanks again for the great video!
I agree with you! Not that i own either. I prefer the wider nib i like the parker’s flare on the nib and i love wider lines, so, if i had a choice it would be the parker duofold. Great video
Now, that's a rodeo! Neck and neck, tough to make a choice, but you made your choice. Both look like great pens to use, although I've never used either one personally. Like you said, I don't get the quip about a cartridge-converter pen vs. built in filling systems. I prefer piston and vacuum fill for the larger capacity but have no issue with C/C pens since they are a breeze to clean and you can use different inks more often as the smaller capacity will get used up quicker than a piston or vac fill pen. Everyone is unique in gripping their pens. My grip tends to be higher up on the body of most of my pens (e.g. - the bottom of my thumb and forefinger grip the locking ring on my Lamy 2000 so my fingers do not really grip on the silver part of the pen). Another great video. Have a Happy Thanksgiving and keep on writing!
I think filling mechanism makes no difference in writing. It may add some ink capacity or some drama while filling the pen. And it also makes a difference in cleaning. And the way we hold a pen makes a difference. My fingers are on the silver part of the Lamy 2000. But it does make me wonder where that pen would rank in one of these rodeos... Happy Thanksgiving!
Ouch Waski dear. That’s a good one. I actually just got hold of a Duofold (modern) because I had a gap in my collection. The Duofold has a fantastic nib and I love it completely. However, we’re talking 823 which in my little world isn’t fair :). I love them both but 823 without question. Sorry for any conflicting opinions but for me, there’s no contest. Thank you for an amazing video. Jen
This was the tightest rodeo contest yet (for me, anyway). I own and love both the PC 823 and the Parker Duofold pens a lot. I own two modern Parker Duofold pens. This was quite a tough call for me. I have already described all the things I admire and enjoy about the 823 in a previous rodeo video of yours where the pen was pitted against the awesome Aurora 88. So, I won’t rehash any of that here. The Duofold is a truly fabulous pen in looks, feel, quality, and writing performance. I will concede that I also feel the pens are definitely priced unfairly and much too high, all things considered. But that is not a major gripe since I have many pens (not least some of my many LE Auroras, Montegrappa, Visconti, or Sailor KoP pens, for example) that I regard as blatantly overpriced - yet I love them dearly and don’t regret buying them. Anyway, I won’t sit on the fence. I declare that the Duofold wins on my card. It just has the edge over the 823 in design, feel in hand, overall aesthetics, the variety in colors, even the unassailable practicality and convenience of the C/C filler over the Vac-filler. And while the 823 wins on price/value propositions for most people, I still bought two very expensive Duofold pens over the one 823 because I must have known I liked the Duofold more. If pressed, I’d pick the Duofold’s nib over the 823’s…The Duofold has such a distinctly lovely charm and vibe to it besides being a marvelous writer that I reckon I might even buy a third one in the future. Well-done, Waski!
RUclips seems to have eaten the extensive reply I left yesterday! Short version: I actually did think about doing an Aurora 88 vs. Parker Duofold video. Emptying both pens ended that plan. I own two modern Duofolds: one contemporary Centennial, and one 1990s International size. And I have several vintage models of the pen. It's a beautiful pen with a long history. Maybe my next rodeo series will be vintage vs. modern. I did it with the Aurora 88 a long time ago. Time do do it with some more pens.
@@WaskiSquirrel …Darn, I should have guessed as much. Because I noticed you had replied to the other commenters. Only mine had no reply. YT can be such a nuisance sometimes. Anyway, many thanks for taking the trouble to write a reply a second time. Ha, rodeo with the Aurora 88 against any of its peers in price, quality and prestige is always welcome. One against the Parker Duofold would be additionally appealing, given the hallowed history of both the pens. I prefer the Centennial Duofold to the International, mainly for its aesthetics and larger size. I just want one of the older (Mk I?) Centennials with no wide cap band, but two rings instead. It always looks a lot nicer to me than cap bands on any pen, actually. I also like the nib design of the older Centennials. Vintage vs modern would obviously be just as appropriate and interesting comparison contest. I never bought a vintage Duofold because they just seem kind of fragile, have fickle nibs, and somehow just a bit meh, all round.
I like the 823 more because you have more control over the writing. I tend to write small and with the Duofold Im sure I could not read what I would write and the 823 is even cheaper. But I like the duofold pretty much. Only if it would be available as EF then I maybe would buy it. So for me the 823 is ny choice, thanks for the comparison.
I don't own either pen so it's difficult for me to express a preference. In terms of looks, I like the Parker more. If anything went wrong with the Pilot filling system I am guessing it could be a more costly repair. With the Duofold you would only need to buy a new converter if the old one became faulty. The writing samples were both good yet I thought the Parker was slightly better. It's another close contest but if I were spending my own money I think I'd get the Duofold.
I completely agree, the options the Duofold offers are amazing. Filling systems rarely interest me and in fact I prefer a cartridge converter most of the time for 3 reasons: Mainly I am one of those odd and strange people who love inks a little more than I should and change my choices very frequently. I can change as often as I please or even pop a cartridge in if at a pinch. They are more tolerant to naughty inks, so high sheen/high maintenance aren’t a problem and finally easily replaced if they mechanically fail. I only prefer the Pilot purely on writing pleasure and performance. One pen is a lovely pencil feedback juicy line (Duofold) and the other one (Pilot) is just dreamy. To anyone wondering which one to get I can’t recommend enough to try both first.
Good point about the variety with the Duofold. And, yes, that's a big strength of the cartridge=converter style refill. But you can't go wrong with either pen: both are really good pens!
I don't own a modern Duofold. I do own an 823. This is all down to the price. So, I reckon I would weight that difference fairly heavily... As far as the pens themselves, I could find a few things to nitpick, but really either one is a darned fine choice. Thanks for the video!
The price is an important factor. That's why I waited until I could get a good price. But you're right: they're both good pens! It really came down to details.
I own both pens abs agree with your rodeo outcome. My Duofold Centennial has a medium nib in a blue marble finish and my 823 has a broad nib with an amber finish. I paid much less for my Parker as it was gently used and the seller was not a fountain pen person. The Pilot won in ink capacity and nib bounce buit the Parker won in all others !
Used is the right way to get these really expensive pens. I just bought a Montblanc 146 for the price of a Lamy 2000. It is a model from the 1980s, and it's a great pen.
It IS a tough choice. I've got two (modern) Duofolds -- the International w/ oblique nib and the "Greenwich" (LE Centennial model) along with my 823. I do like 'em both but I give the edge to the 823 due to its larger ink capacity and finer line as I write pretty small. I think that explains why my Parkers rotate in and out of rotation -- I see them as "winter" pens -- while the 823 stays inked up and in use pretty much year round.
The 823 has a distinct advantage in ink capacity. If you write small, the finer nib would definitely be an advantage.. These are both great pens, so my choice came down to details. Your use of the term "winter pen" was interesting.
I don’ particularly like vacuum filler pens. Unscrewing the end for longer written sessions is unsettling to me. How much to unscrew, have I done it too little or to much and then remembering to screw it back when finished. I also like to change ink frequently so the large ink capacity is not ideal to me. Have wanted the Parker for some time but struggle with the price point. To each their own. Thank you for the video.
I'm worried about that inevitable time when it needs filling. The unscrewing on the 823 is pretty easy to see. But if you like to change inks often, it's not a good pen! Yes, the Parker is too expensive, unless you do like I did and wait a few years for a good price.
I became extremely worried that you had forgotten the world famous Pier Gustafson test. I’m glad you didn’t let me down at the end! That would have been a tragedy.
Having neither (too modern for my taste) I'd go for the Parker. Despite the taste for piston-fillers, C/Cs win hands down IMO. Easier to clean, maintain and replace, with no specialist know-how needed. I would probably find the Duofold more comfortable, and I really, really dislike translucent or demonstrator pens. Looking forward to more. BTW, has your package arrived?
Fair enough! I'm a vintage fan too, and I own 3 vintage Duofolds. You describe a huge advantage of the C/C pens. I love to clean these, and they're easy to repair. The package has not arrived. But remember where I live: not exactly the mainstream part of the US.
I think it very much depends on your budget. The Parker is about 3 -4 times the cost of an 823. I think the Pilot represents far better value in terms of that beautiful medium nib and the amount of ink it holds. I also prefer the piston filling mechanism- a lot less messy. I respect your opinion, I would never despise it no matter how much it may differ from mine.
The price is quite different in your country than it is in mine! The Parker is about 1.5 times the price of the Pilot here, unless I try to buy one of the special editions. But, if the price were 3 times the Pilot as in your country, I can definitely see some concerns!
@@WaskiSquirrel Duofolds here tend to go for AUD $ 970 -$1,200 odd Australian dollars depending on the version you want. Pen shows and large retail chains for less with sales. 823s around $450 ish. It pays to hunt around. 2-3 times as much here for a Duofold.
@@MrAndrew1953 It's funny how much pen prices vary between countries. I'm told that in the US, Japanese pens are quite expensive compared to other countries.
Thanks for the video. Filling mechanisms are overrated. It's about writing, and the nib. Personally, I love cartridge based pens. No mess. In Europe, cartridges are more prevalent. For some weird reason, here in the United States, everyone wants to syringe fill their pens. I don't get it.
Don't be so snobbish about it. There are many rational reasons why syringe filling is better. I am European and I never use cartridges because that's just more plastic waste and the ink choices are limited.
The filling mechanism is great while filling the pen. And there are advantages in ink capacity with some fillers. I'm not a fan of cartridges, but I do like converters.
It’s not fair comparison when you equate the price of a used Parker to the price of a brand new Pilot. The Parker new is 3 times the price of a new Pilot. That alone makes the Pilot a much better buy.
I only have a Duofold. I've admired the 823 for many years but it just seems like it would be a pain to clean and I like to change ink a lot. Maybe if I get to go to Japan one day, I'll buy one there, otherwise converters are just easier to deal with and to clean. And I do love my Duofold. It was my first 'nice" pen and I've had it for 33 years. Thanks for the great comparison!
If you change ink a lot, the 823 is not for you. You might prefer its cousin, the 743 which uses a cartridge/converter system but the same nib.
p.s. meant to wish you a Happy Thanksgiving! I'm ever so thankful for the substantial time and effort you put into these reviews year round!
Same to you! And I'm glad you enjoy my videos!
Definitely it’s the Parker Duofold Centennial for me. I’ve had mine for 30+ years. My mom gave it to me for my Christmas birthday. I read the literature and sent it back to Parker for complimentary engraving of my initials and a complimentary nib exchange (for an oblique). I love that pen as much as the first time I inked it. I’ve had my Pilot Custom 823 for a year or two, but I just don’t like it as well as reviewers do.
It's tough because these are both great pens. But The Parker gets it right in the details.
Lookswise, I like the Parker, but am bored by the Pilot. Filling-systemwise, I prefer, substantially, cartridge/converters, i.e. Parker. Nibwise, I do a lot of reverse writing, so Parker. Pricewise, both are beyond my limit ($200), though possibly used I could afford the Pilot. So, three points for the Parker, but trumped by the Pilot's less extravagant price. In the actual world I do own a 743 (bought USED), the same pen as the 823 but still a cartridge/converter. Superb pen, and available stock with the nib.
The 743 with a Falcon nib is a really good pen as well. Maybe it belongs in this series as well. I have an extra #15 fine nib, so I could do it. But you're right that the variety of nibs in the 743 is a good perk. Pilot has some nibs that are not available from the Parker. To be fair...Parker has some nibs that Pilot doesn't have.
And a lot easier to clean.
Cheers! My Friend! The Pilot Custom 823 would be my preference. It is a uniquely brilliant pen. My Duofold is vintage and rather average, but I respect and appreciate a different perspective.
I have several vintage Duofolds. They each have a different personality...and one needs serious nib work. I enjoy the Pilot Custom 823 very much, and it was my first "nice" pen. This video really came down to details to me, and I've never thought these videos were objective.
Thank you for hearing me out!
@@WaskiSquirrel I would never hold you to objectivity! I cannot throw stones in my glass house. All the best.
I have a Parker Duofold (M) of recent vintage and two Pilot 823 pens (M & F). I love them all but I've never compared them directly. I will have to take them out and try them side-by-side to see what's what. Thanks for the excellent video!
Edit: I do think your 823 Fine writes with a thicker line than mine. My 823 F seems more like an XXF than a Fine but it writes well and reasonably wet for a nib that fine. Thanks again for the great video!
These pens are both really good, so it was a challenge to find a winner! It really did come down to details.
I agree with you! Not that i own either. I prefer the wider nib i like the parker’s flare on the nib and i love wider lines, so, if i had a choice it would be the parker duofold. Great video
Thank you so much! It really came down to the details for these two pens.
Now, that's a rodeo! Neck and neck, tough to make a choice, but you made your choice. Both look like great pens to use, although I've never used either one personally. Like you said, I don't get the quip about a cartridge-converter pen vs. built in filling systems. I prefer piston and vacuum fill for the larger capacity but have no issue with C/C pens since they are a breeze to clean and you can use different inks more often as the smaller capacity will get used up quicker than a piston or vac fill pen. Everyone is unique in gripping their pens. My grip tends to be higher up on the body of most of my pens (e.g. - the bottom of my thumb and forefinger grip the locking ring on my Lamy 2000 so my fingers do not really grip on the silver part of the pen). Another great video. Have a Happy Thanksgiving and keep on writing!
I think filling mechanism makes no difference in writing. It may add some ink capacity or some drama while filling the pen. And it also makes a difference in cleaning.
And the way we hold a pen makes a difference. My fingers are on the silver part of the Lamy 2000. But it does make me wonder where that pen would rank in one of these rodeos...
Happy Thanksgiving!
Ouch Waski dear. That’s a good one. I actually just got hold of a Duofold (modern) because I had a gap in my collection. The Duofold has a fantastic nib and I love it completely. However, we’re talking 823 which in my little world isn’t fair :). I love them both but 823 without question. Sorry for any conflicting opinions but for me, there’s no contest.
Thank you for an amazing video.
Jen
Sorry to hear that! For me it came down to details. These are both great pens.
This was the tightest rodeo contest yet (for me, anyway). I own and love both the PC 823 and the Parker Duofold pens a lot. I own two modern Parker Duofold pens. This was quite a tough call for me.
I have already described all the things I admire and enjoy about the 823 in a previous rodeo video of yours where the pen was pitted against the awesome Aurora 88. So, I won’t rehash any of that here.
The Duofold is a truly fabulous pen in looks, feel, quality, and writing performance. I will concede that I also feel the pens are definitely priced unfairly and much too high, all things considered. But that is not a major gripe since I have many pens (not least some of my many LE Auroras, Montegrappa, Visconti, or Sailor KoP pens, for example) that I regard as blatantly overpriced - yet I love them dearly and don’t regret buying them.
Anyway, I won’t sit on the fence. I declare that the Duofold wins on my card. It just has the edge over the 823 in design, feel in hand, overall aesthetics, the variety in colors, even the unassailable practicality and convenience of the C/C filler over the Vac-filler. And while the 823 wins on price/value propositions for most people, I still bought two very expensive Duofold pens over the one 823 because I must have known I liked the Duofold more. If pressed, I’d pick the Duofold’s nib over the 823’s…The Duofold has such a distinctly lovely charm and vibe to it besides being a marvelous writer that I reckon I might even buy a third one in the future.
Well-done, Waski!
RUclips seems to have eaten the extensive reply I left yesterday! Short version: I actually did think about doing an Aurora 88 vs. Parker Duofold video. Emptying both pens ended that plan.
I own two modern Duofolds: one contemporary Centennial, and one 1990s International size. And I have several vintage models of the pen. It's a beautiful pen with a long history.
Maybe my next rodeo series will be vintage vs. modern. I did it with the Aurora 88 a long time ago. Time do do it with some more pens.
@@WaskiSquirrel …Darn, I should have guessed as much. Because I noticed you had replied to the other commenters. Only mine had no reply. YT can be such a nuisance sometimes. Anyway, many thanks for taking the trouble to write a reply a second time.
Ha, rodeo with the Aurora 88 against any of its peers in price, quality and prestige is always welcome. One against the Parker Duofold would be additionally appealing, given the hallowed history of both the pens.
I prefer the Centennial Duofold to the International, mainly for its aesthetics and larger size. I just want one of the older (Mk I?) Centennials with no wide cap band, but two rings instead. It always looks a lot nicer to me than cap bands on any pen, actually. I also like the nib design of the older Centennials. Vintage vs modern would obviously be just as appropriate and interesting comparison contest. I never bought a vintage Duofold because they just seem kind of fragile, have fickle nibs, and somehow just a bit meh, all round.
I like the 823 more because you have more control over the writing. I tend to write small and with the Duofold Im sure I could not read what I would write and the 823 is even cheaper. But I like the duofold pretty much. Only if it would be available as EF then I maybe would buy it. So for me the 823 is ny choice, thanks for the comparison.
Here in the US, they don't have an EF nib. But you can find them if you search online. And you really can't go wrong with either of these pens!
I don't own either pen so it's difficult for me to express a preference. In terms of looks, I like the Parker more. If anything went wrong with the Pilot filling system I am guessing it could be a more costly repair. With the Duofold you would only need to buy a new converter if the old one became faulty. The writing samples were both good yet I thought the Parker was slightly better. It's another close contest but if I were spending my own money I think I'd get the Duofold.
Both are an excellent choice x
@@Nojii1 I think another reason I'd favour the Parker is the choice of colours and decorative finishes available to the Duofold, albeit at a price.
I completely agree, the options the Duofold offers are amazing. Filling systems rarely interest me and in fact I prefer a cartridge converter most of the time for 3 reasons: Mainly I am one of those odd and strange people who love inks a little more than I should and change my choices very frequently. I can change as often as I please or even pop a cartridge in if at a pinch. They are more tolerant to naughty inks, so high sheen/high maintenance aren’t a problem and finally easily replaced if they mechanically fail. I only prefer the Pilot purely on writing pleasure and performance. One pen is a lovely pencil feedback juicy line (Duofold) and the other one (Pilot) is just dreamy.
To anyone wondering which one to get I can’t recommend enough to try both first.
Good point about the variety with the Duofold. And, yes, that's a big strength of the cartridge=converter style refill.
But you can't go wrong with either pen: both are really good pens!
I don't own a modern Duofold. I do own an 823. This is all down to the price. So, I reckon I would weight that difference fairly heavily... As far as the pens themselves, I could find a few things to nitpick, but really either one is a darned fine choice. Thanks for the video!
The price is an important factor. That's why I waited until I could get a good price. But you're right: they're both good pens! It really came down to details.
Parker Duofold Centennial vs Pelikan m800?
Most people would disagree, but I sold my m800 and own 2 Centennials!
I own both pens abs agree with your rodeo outcome. My Duofold Centennial has a medium nib in a blue marble finish and my 823 has a broad nib with an amber finish. I paid much less for my Parker as it was gently used and the seller was not a fountain pen person. The Pilot won in ink capacity and nib bounce buit the Parker won in all others !
Used is the right way to get these really expensive pens. I just bought a Montblanc 146 for the price of a Lamy 2000. It is a model from the 1980s, and it's a great pen.
@@WaskiSquirrel that is good advice and I have used that method to purchase all of my flagship pens! Congratulations on your MB146.
Great review. I feel the Parker Duofold would enjoy more success if the price came down a bit.
I agree with you. I waited until I could get mine at a lower price.
It IS a tough choice. I've got two (modern) Duofolds -- the International w/ oblique nib and the "Greenwich" (LE Centennial model) along with my 823. I do like 'em both but I give the edge to the 823 due to its larger ink capacity and finer line as I write pretty small. I think that explains why my Parkers rotate in and out of rotation -- I see them as "winter" pens -- while the 823 stays inked up and in use pretty much year round.
The 823 has a distinct advantage in ink capacity. If you write small, the finer nib would definitely be an advantage..
These are both great pens, so my choice came down to details. Your use of the term "winter pen" was interesting.
I don’ particularly like vacuum filler pens. Unscrewing the end for longer written sessions is unsettling to me. How much to unscrew, have I done it too little or to much and then remembering to screw it back when finished. I also like to change ink frequently so the large ink capacity is not ideal to me.
Have wanted the Parker for some time but struggle with the price point. To each their own. Thank you for the video.
I'm worried about that inevitable time when it needs filling. The unscrewing on the 823 is pretty easy to see. But if you like to change inks often, it's not a good pen!
Yes, the Parker is too expensive, unless you do like I did and wait a few years for a good price.
I became extremely worried that you had forgotten the world famous Pier Gustafson test. I’m glad you didn’t let me down at the end! That would have been a tragedy.
I could never forget that test, especially now that I've met the world famous Pier Gustafson himself!
Having neither (too modern for my taste) I'd go for the Parker. Despite the taste for piston-fillers, C/Cs win hands down IMO. Easier to clean, maintain and replace, with no specialist know-how needed. I would probably find the Duofold more comfortable, and I really, really dislike translucent or demonstrator pens. Looking forward to more.
BTW, has your package arrived?
Fair enough! I'm a vintage fan too, and I own 3 vintage Duofolds. You describe a huge advantage of the C/C pens. I love to clean these, and they're easy to repair.
The package has not arrived. But remember where I live: not exactly the mainstream part of the US.
I think it very much depends on your budget. The Parker is about 3 -4 times the cost of an 823. I think the Pilot represents far better value in terms of that beautiful medium nib and the amount of ink it holds. I also prefer the piston filling mechanism- a lot less messy.
I respect your opinion, I would never despise it no matter how much it may differ from mine.
The price is quite different in your country than it is in mine! The Parker is about 1.5 times the price of the Pilot here, unless I try to buy one of the special editions. But, if the price were 3 times the Pilot as in your country, I can definitely see some concerns!
@@WaskiSquirrel Duofolds here tend to go for AUD $ 970 -$1,200 odd Australian dollars depending on the version you want. Pen shows and large retail chains for less with sales. 823s around $450 ish. It pays to hunt around. 2-3 times as much here for a Duofold.
@@MrAndrew1953 It's funny how much pen prices vary between countries. I'm told that in the US, Japanese pens are quite expensive compared to other countries.
@@WaskiSquirrel Pilot pens are very expensive in Europe.
Don’t despise your opinion. Reflects mine. So, er, well done.
Thank you!
A very tough pair to separate. I might award a marginal win to the Pilot based on capacity.
That is a strong perk of the Pilot!
I’ve got small handwriting: Pilot wins for me!:)
It would definitely be more suited to that!
Thanks for the video. Filling mechanisms are overrated. It's about writing, and the nib. Personally, I love cartridge based pens. No mess. In Europe, cartridges are more prevalent. For some weird reason, here in the United States, everyone wants to syringe fill their pens. I don't get it.
Don't be so snobbish about it. There are many rational reasons why syringe filling is better. I am European and I never use cartridges because that's just more plastic waste and the ink choices are limited.
The filling mechanism is great while filling the pen. And there are advantages in ink capacity with some fillers. I'm not a fan of cartridges, but I do like converters.
@@murkser4149 whoa....you're a grumpy one lol!
PARKER WIN
Parkers are good pens!
It’s not fair comparison when you equate the price of a used Parker to the price of a brand new Pilot. The Parker new is 3 times the price of a new Pilot. That alone makes the Pilot a much better buy.
This one isn't used.