Breeders Cup Classic 2024 Update

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @derbyologist
    @derbyologist  2 месяца назад +1

    Who are your top Breeders' Cup Classic Contenders 2024? Free Tip Sheet for Breeder's Cup, Saratoga Derby Day 📒 Sign Up.
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    • @dianab3768
      @dianab3768 Месяц назад

      RAMJET Why is nobody mentioning Ramjet?

  • @donnat2062
    @donnat2062 2 месяца назад +1

    I’m already excited ,can’t wait !!!

  • @CharlesTurk-c9x
    @CharlesTurk-c9x Месяц назад

    Thank you.

  • @adammiller6606
    @adammiller6606 2 месяца назад +1

    I had Mixto.
    Hi late .50 pk4 for $1,523. Woo! 🏇

  • @frankdeangelo6327
    @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад +1

    Well sad news Just found out Dornach is retiring he had some bone bruising he's not going to enter Classic he's done racing that terrible he had a good chance he won some huge big races well that leaves him out

  • @jameschan9634
    @jameschan9634 Месяц назад +1

    So, people are afraid of Fierceness because they don't know which horse will show up. But the good Fierceness beats anything out there. Include the best horse, or omit?

  • @frankdeangelo6327
    @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад

    City of Troy or Sierra Leone. If Next enters I'll be on him alot noone will beat him at that distance.Dont count out Arthurs Ride if he enters n Tapit trice looked great today. Gotta see who enters before even predicting anything.Good chance a longshot takes it

  • @joannaturnbull6662
    @joannaturnbull6662 2 месяца назад +4

    City of Troy all the way! Look at his pedigree on the dam side. Urban Sea is one of the most influential mare in the world. Especially when mated toSadlers Wells.

    • @derbyologist
      @derbyologist  2 месяца назад

      The Europeans have had mixed success. Giants Causeway and Sahkee ran well and lost. Others have not fired. Adds some intrigue to the race.

    • @jeffbauer1609
      @jeffbauer1609 2 месяца назад +1

      It’s not the pedigree as much as it’s that it will be his first race on dirt. Insane place to find out if he likes dirt or not. I doubt he runs the Classic, but I’ll fade if he does.

    • @jerich859
      @jerich859 Месяц назад

      Ice Cold exacta box with Forever Young

    • @jerich859
      @jerich859 Месяц назад

      ​@@derbyologistThis is a JUSTIFY COLT LOVES DIRT AIDEN O'BRIEN SAYING THAT HE WILL WIN HIS 1ST BBC 🎉😂😮

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      @@derbyologist "Mixed success"? The Euro-horses have won TWO of the 40 BC Classics. EVERY year the latest and greatest come over here from Europe with high expectations, and they FAIL.

  • @Court_1239n7
    @Court_1239n7 Месяц назад

    Do you have any info on nysos?

    • @derbyologist
      @derbyologist  Месяц назад +2

      No Information he seems to have disappeared. No workouts since Feb. 25, he did jog on the track on September 1st.

    • @Court_1239n7
      @Court_1239n7 Месяц назад

      @@derbyologist ok thanks much.this is the reason I love and subscribe on this channel

  • @ianchefking5416
    @ianchefking5416 Месяц назад

    How About Mindframe?

    • @derbyologist
      @derbyologist  Месяц назад

      Mindframe is injured and out for the year, the plan is to run the Pegaus in January with one prep race before then.

    • @JimmiHidalgo-Lopez
      @JimmiHidalgo-Lopez Месяц назад

      The name says it. Will be in the frame.

  • @KellyCostello-qs9nf
    @KellyCostello-qs9nf 2 месяца назад

    I'm staying on The Fierceness Train! Craig did u mention White Abarrio? If so I missed that. With all the changes ect he's been through and and unknown illness, I read he's running. What's your early opinion on White Abarrio? I'll use Fierceness, White Abarrio and Arthers Ride!

    • @derbyologist
      @derbyologist  2 месяца назад

      I didn't mention White Abarrio, because we need to see what race preps in and how he does, he needs to run well to consider the BC Classic. The pace was very contested yesterday in the JCGC, Arthurs Ride ran well, and with a longer break after JCGC he will be int he mix.

    • @frankdeangelo6327
      @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад +1

      Stay on Fierceness train with all your Lost money he's awful Overated inconsistent Jekyll and Hyde horse Save your money has no chance How can anyone root for him Up n down up n down up n down Inconsistent to say the least He's not worth betting a penny

  • @ELIOSANFELIU
    @ELIOSANFELIU Месяц назад

    Coming soon¡¡

  • @CarlCarlson-k5p
    @CarlCarlson-k5p 2 месяца назад +4

    A japan based horse almost beat all our 3yr olds in k.d. a female horse almost beat our top 3yr olds recently. Why all the talk about these horse. U heard it frm me early. The 4yr old derma s. Is one to watch. Now i got 2 hear everyones comments. Oh boy
    Gd luck to all in nov. F.y.i. wards horse wins the sprint in a track record.

    • @jameschan9634
      @jameschan9634 Месяц назад

      I've been a fan of Ushba Tesoro, he's always right there in big races. I'll bet him again, should get very decent odds. The Japanese won 2 BC races 2 yrs ago, and they win big races all over the world. imo, you've got to respect their horses.

    • @dianab3768
      @dianab3768 Месяц назад

      Ramjet

    • @CarlCarlson-k5p
      @CarlCarlson-k5p Месяц назад

      @jameschan9634 ill go with derma I just thinks he better than the closer. Also all our big races and preps have been won upclose or on lead wire 2 wire. K.d. prkness belmont Peter pan haskell travers Whitney w2w jkygdcup highland falls lura river easy w2w in des ert.e

    • @CarlCarlson-k5p
      @CarlCarlson-k5p Месяц назад

      @dianab3768 what's ramjet.

    • @CarlCarlson-k5p
      @CarlCarlson-k5p Месяц назад

      @jameschan9634 ushba Tesoro sierra leone senor buscator disarm crupi all closers might be up against it. But gd luck.

  • @jeffbauer1609
    @jeffbauer1609 2 месяца назад

    Give me the Japanese or Muth this year. Beyer pads Pletcher’s numbers so I’m not touching fierceness, he can beat me.

    • @derbyologist
      @derbyologist  2 месяца назад +2

      The Travers speed figure seems a little high, it would have the top three horses all running career tops.

    • @jameschan9634
      @jameschan9634 Месяц назад

      @@derbyologist love that kind of info!

  • @user-wm7mp2fl1p
    @user-wm7mp2fl1p Месяц назад +1

    Do remember the saying to breed the best with the best and hope for the best can we not say to bet the best of the best ridden by the best jockey best trainer best stable and best preparation ever as City of Troy is that best best best spoken off end of story

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      Anytime somebody uses the word "best", it's a completely subjective/biased opinion. WHO are YOU to say who is the "best" jockey, the "best" trainer, the "best" stable, etc., etc., etc.? 40 years of HISTORY shows that City of Troy will be chewed up and spit out by the REAL dirt horses in the BC Classic, and he will be just another one of the MANY highly-touted Euro-horses who came to the USA and went home empty-handed (or "hooved).

    • @user-wm7mp2fl1p
      @user-wm7mp2fl1p Месяц назад

      @@TheProfessorOfLife Well said my friend I like your opinion but you just wait and see on Breeders Cup Classic day then you will tell me who is the best of the best of them all end of story

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      @@user-wm7mp2fl1p The funny thing is that City of Troy is American bred. Does that make him "mixed-race"? lol

    • @user-wm7mp2fl1p
      @user-wm7mp2fl1p Месяц назад

      @@TheProfessorOfLife Very well I am glad that you are aware that City of Troy has Justified Blood in him thus making him a Monster on dirt also no wonder I mentioned the best of the best what do you call it the BESTEST

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      @@user-wm7mp2fl1p Pedigree does not necessarily equate into offspring who are better on one surface than another. Justify, in particular, has had a propensity to produce turf horses over dirt horses. As I'm sure you know, Justify is only HALF of the pedigree equation. The "mama" has a say-so too. Justify may have won the Triple Crown, but he still only raced SIX times, and was retired because of chronic health problems. Does that mean that his offspring are also going to be lightly raced and have health problems too?

  • @kennethnero2011
    @kennethnero2011 2 месяца назад +1

    Fierceness vs City of Troy
    ima pick Fierceness

    • @derbyologist
      @derbyologist  2 месяца назад

      Looking forward to that matchup.

    • @frankdeangelo6327
      @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад +1

      Fierceness sucks Overated inconsistent Jekyll and Hyde horse Fierceness crybaby horse not one bit tough he has no chance in hell to win as soon as he gets bumped or touched he's done finish double digits 10th place or worse guarantee save your money he's trash of a horse Sierra Leone Muth City of Troy Dragoon guard Arthur's ride Dornach Torpedo Anna take one of them way better than Fierceness

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      @@frankdeangelo6327 Once again, apparently you're NOT aware that Fierceness has WON his last two races? Muth, Dragoon Guard, and Thorpedo Anna are NOT running in the BC Classic.

    • @frankdeangelo6327
      @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад +1

      I know he won 2 in a row Big deal about time that makes him average horse The few I mentioned some might enter Sierra Leone Muth might National treasure Arthurs Ride City of Troy Next Ther all much better He had too many bad races no excuses 7th place 8th place 15th place Oh I forgot he don't like any contact bumped or touched he's finished done big field forget it Sierra Leone should be undefeated at least he hits the board every time he also spots every horse like 7 8 lengths or more n still almost wins every time Lost by nose in Derby He will prevail n if Next runs he's the one to beat Way to Many horse's better than him. I wouldn't bet a penny on him Jekyll and Hyde horse take your pick I can't root for a horse like that I dislike n is so inconsistent He got lucky Torpedo Anna should of won little longer she takes it I guess you didn't notice how Dead tired he was at the finish line.I never heard of a horse that needs a million years to rest only him that's just an excuse because the connections know he won't win He reminds me of another overrated inconsistent horse same connections Forte another bust crappy horse Ther 2 of a kind Well I got your name I'll text you after the Classic n see whose right 14 can enter the race I'll say he comes in 10th place or worse . He might not even enter with his record always backing out of big races that's another thing It's a total joke that these stupid poll's put him first or 2nd he's like 10th my opinion Remberbr what I'm saying n watch .

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      @@frankdeangelo6327 Big deal? So you're saying that the G2 Jim Dandy and the G1 Travers are not a big deal? That's ridiculous. National Treasure and Next are definitely NOT running in the BC Classic, it's very doubtful that Muth will be ready to run in the BC Classic. I'm NOT a fan of Fierceness, and I'm also not a fan of Pletcher and Repole. I would not bet a PENNY on Fierceness in ANY race he's entered in, but you can't ignore how he's run in his last two races. He's either going to win or lose badly. There's no in-between. Sierra Leone hasn't won a race since April, yet there are people, like you, who STILL consider him to be a top racehorse, and STILL believe that he can win the BC Classic. Go figure.

  • @jerich859
    @jerich859 Месяц назад

    Derma Sotogake , City of Troy, Forever Young TRIFECTA COLD

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      Derma Sotogake, the horse who finished SIXTH in the Dubai World Cup? Really?

  • @mia111769
    @mia111769 2 месяца назад

    The only challenge for fierceness is city of Troy IMO

    • @derbyologist
      @derbyologist  2 месяца назад

      City of Troy has the class - he works out on Synthetic on September 20th.

    • @frankdeangelo6327
      @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад +1

      @@mia111769 Fierceness isn't nothing Overated inconsistent Jekyll and Hyde horse He's nothing won't hit the board guarantee save your money He's a whimp of a horse Not a fan I rather bet any other horse then him He's not a horse that can take any adversity or gets bumped or touched he's done with Forget him hope comes in Dead last

    • @mia111769
      @mia111769 Месяц назад

      @@frankdeangelo6327 I totally disagree. I think the classic between fierceness and City of Troy

    • @frankdeangelo6327
      @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад +1

      @@mia111769 no way City of Troy n Sierra Leone Fierceness won't even be in the picture meaning not hitting the board Save your money people He's nothing overrated inconsistent Jekyll and Hyde horse Just ignore his last 2 wins one was lucy Torpedo Anna should of won n would of tiny bit longer she wins he was so tired at the finish line N the other win Just barely beat Sierra Leone. by a head N Sierra Leone spotted him 7 8 lengths N still almost beat him but his bad races are awful 7th 8th place 15th place 9th place no excuses for that Sierra Leone has hit the board every race easily could be undefeated This I believe is his race but. If Next the horse enters he's definitely the winner no one can beat him he gets faster the longer the race His last 6 wins in a row he averages winning by 12 length he's the real deal So he might enter Classic if not he's entertaining Dirt mile will see I think there's Alot of better horses then Fierceness Muth City of Troy Dragoon guard Arthur's ride National treasure Dornach Torpedo Anna Tapit trice Thers plenty alot of these won't be in the classic but some will I wouldn't bet one penny on him I can't root for a horse like that he's not tough not a fighter He doesn't like adversity if he gets bumped or touched anything he's done for good n he awful in huge fields so classic too many 14 horses in classic Do what you want I warned you about him Take City of Troy instead he's much better n consistent doesn't have bad races like him I'm on Sierra Leone all the way If Next doesn't enter my 2nd choice probably City of Troy or Arthurs Ride hes dangerous will see Heres some good advice watch Fierceness last2 wins and see how they impressive just barely winning then watch his losses bad races look at them closely n see how he's a Jekyll and Hyde horse 2 different horse's you can't bet a horse like that Good luck

  • @frankdeangelo6327
    @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад +2

    You gotta be kidding me How the heck can they make Overated inconsistent Jekyll and Hyde horse Fierceness the favorite that's a joke He's not even in my top 5 list he's average at best People just keep dismissing his bad races they are there No excuses I don't like him one bit N he would have no chance in the Classic huge fields hes afraid of being bumped touched anything he's not a fighter he's a whimp of a horse Save your money people I wouldn't bet one penny on him Sierra Leone Muth Dragoon guard. City of Troy. Torpedo Anna. Dornach Arthur's ride. Ther my best ones My top. 4. In order Sierra Leone. Muth. City of Troy. Dragoon guard or Arthur's ride. But Sierra Leone this is the one he's winning n after he wins he will be crowned best 3yr Year old n maybe Horse of the year He has no bad races hit the board every time Losing Derby by nose Fierceness can't say any of that he has no explanation for all the bad races Terrible Good n bad doesn't equal great it equals average horse that's him .

    • @derbyologist
      @derbyologist  Месяц назад

      Fierceness has been inconsistent. Lots of contenders for Classic 2024.

    • @frankdeangelo6327
      @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад +1

      @@derbyologist I sound very critical of Fierceness My late Grandpop Knew the game well I learned from him My Dad my Uncle My Grandpop always preached to stay away from that kind of horse Up n down up n down N he's correct So right from Day one I didn't like anything about him He reminds me of Forte another one I wasn't crazy for But I really like Sierra Leone he's a Fighter he doesn't quit He has tons of potential I see it know sometimes he drifts a little but he'll mature out of that But the horse I was looking at the Kentucky Derby He really could of won Lost by nose n if you take away the bumping he n Forever young did to each other he probably wins alot of made up ground I think Flavien Prat is probably the best overall jockey my opinion People will say Irad I disagree Flavien wins the big races more then Irad n Ortiz kind of only rides favorites n good trainers I was looking at the Total last numbers between the Jockeys and Prat had way less mounts n he hit the board more than Irad I know it's a Debate but my point was Maybe Tyler Gafflione should of not been removed from Sierra Leone hes also a top Jockey Im curious to know your opinion about that But your right its gonna be incredible field I got a few longshots I like might be in the Classic Arthur's ride. Dragoon guard Ther up n coming horses Muth is Dangerous He might be the favorite Alot of good ones actually no bad horses in the race.Im wondering if Another horse I love will be there again the defending champ White Abarrio I heard maybe That would be great I'm assuming Dornach Will be Mystic Dan maybe National treasure maybe Not sure what a field I Guess will know soon

    • @dianab3768
      @dianab3768 Месяц назад

      @@frankdeangelo6327 too bad your ancestors did not teach you how to deal with your egotistical anxiety.

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      You ARE aware that Fierceness has won his last two starts, the Jim Dandy and the Travers, right? I am NOT a fan of Pletcher or Repole, but Fierceness probably deserves to be the odds-on favorite at this point. I won't bet a dime on him, because we don't know which Fierceness is going to show up. What is puzzling to me are the people who are STILL hanging on to Sierra Leone, a horse who hasn't won a race since April, and seems to enjoy running WITH the other horses instead of beating them.

    • @user-wm7mp2fl1p
      @user-wm7mp2fl1p Месяц назад

      @@frankdeangelo6327 Sierra Leone needs twelve furlongs my friend he has been knocking far too long to get his nose in front but with Monster City of Troy SL will have to settle for second third or fourth as he is not firing as he should perhaps he needs a long rest end of story

  • @frankdeangelo6327
    @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад +1

    Bet anyone but Fierceness thats a guarantee Hes not going to even come in 10th place or worse

    • @AbrahamMendez-u5x
      @AbrahamMendez-u5x Месяц назад

      You ain't lying buddy!

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      Fierceness will either win, or he will finish in the middle of the pack or worse. It ALL depends on if he gets a clean trip or not, which really depends on his post position and the track condition on race day.

    • @frankdeangelo6327
      @frankdeangelo6327 Месяц назад

      @@TheProfessorOfLife He's not winning too many better horses that might enter Muth Sierra Leone Next Dornach Arthurs Ride. City of Troy. Torpedo Anna These horses to me are much better they don't have Alot of bad races like Fierceness has he's not Consistent at all Especially in huge fields Once he gets bumped or touched he's finished done Just my opinion I don't think he's even in the top ten horses I'm not impressed with Anything about him It took him forever to win 2 in a row That's not a great horse that's average at best He's not a fighter at all Sierra Leone is the fighter he has hit the board every race Should be undefeated He spots every horse like 8 lengths or more N still closed n almost wins every time He will be my top pick But if Next runs I'm on him

    • @TheProfessorOfLife
      @TheProfessorOfLife Месяц назад

      @@frankdeangelo6327 I'm not a Fierceness fan at all. Don't like Pletcher or Repole either, but if Fierceness gets to run HIS race, like his last two races, he'll be right there at the end of the race. About HALF of the horses you mentioned are not even going to run in the Breeder's Cup Classic. My pick is Forever Young, based on how he does in his next race on Wednesday (10/2). Do a little research.