*Incredibly* well-made video. Great audio levels, music isn't too loud, and you've got helpful voiceover during the b-roll / installation pieces. I have an M2 but yours is one of the more informative intercooler videos I've found so far. Thank you!
@@FritzRamos I've had them installed since Feb 2021, along with ER charge pipes, Quaife LSD, ARMASPEED air filter, Bootmod3 Stage 2 91 octane. Daily driving most of the time, occasional drifting around the track, and it's working fine so far. The recent daily driving water temperature is about 95 degrees Celsius, and about 110 degrees Celsius after half an hour of mid-low speed drift.
I love you new style of video production. More outside setting. I love that. What tripod do you use? Also, kudos with black intercooler. It has proven that the black one performs better to silver "just that color finish" makes a huge difference. I have explained that a while ago. And, was proven by Mighty Car Mod.
I did the upgrade on last week end. In conjunction of wagner evo 2, I installed ftp charge pipe, mst turbo inlet pipe, and DV+ gfb. I chose fin and tube design for the weight saving, for me is the most important factor, on stage 1. I love the quality of the wagner and ftp.
I just bought a 2015 M235i with 101,000 miles on the clock. Single lower (middle aged lady) and very well taken care of, so it was a very easy decision to make. Onto my question... Why does my cluster look different than yours? I have a digital fuel consumption gauge under the RPM, but it looks like your larger center digital display is newer and provides a lot more information. What am I missing here? By the way, thanks for all the amazing videos you've made! I can't wait to get started working on my car. I'm not sure what was last serviced, so I'm thinking about just doing everything. Spark Plugs, Oil, Diff Fluid, Trans Fluid, all the different pipes you've mentioned in your previous videos. Let me know if there is anything else I should consider.
@@TheTruelakersfan Well, it’s one thing when you can actually see the records 😉. Actually, since I’m here, I’ll update… 108,000, I noticed a small oil leak around the Valve Cover Gasket. Bought a new Valve Cover + Gasket + Spark Plugs + Coils and replaced it all with a friend for a total of $800. Now I’m at 111,000 and it has been smooth sailing. This is my second BMW with over 100K (previous 08 335i). These engines are like Porsche… they’ve been building them and perfecting them for a while now.
Another excellent video, much appreciated. I have the same brand of intercooler for the F32 and need figure out If I should fit it or give it to a shop to to do.
Sorry, this is just not a good comparison. No one should be testing intercoolers this way, it should be Ambient temp vs IAT. Did you run any WOT logs to show what the delta was between the two? The VRSF can get within 10-20F of ambient, Vs the Wagner which is usually around 20F
I would watch out for those jack stands with the circular base. I've read they can be unsafe. Essentially if something happens that causes the stand to tilt it can end up rolling out the side causing your car to fall. Don't know how much it actually happens but it makes sense to me and I don't want to risk it. I have a similar style of stands but with a hexagonal base that should be less prone to rolling.
Hi Fritz, Wich one did you keep on the car? Did you also try logging the car with WOT and checking the IAT's? Can't make up my mind wich one to get for my M235i. Keep up the good work!
What size/model is the VRSF please? cos the links don't work anymore. What brand/type and size would you suggest? for 20% bumper to bumper traffic, then 50% slower but moving 30-40mph traffic, with 30% open road? Btw, I have VRSF charge and down pipe. Running MHD stage 2. With go to Stage 2+ when get intercooler and BMS intake. 98 octane zero ethanol gas. VRSF is a lot more common in New Zealand, and my local Euro place sells and installs them btw. Thank you heaps. p.s. My car is an M135i with EWG. So same N55 engine as yours.
I’m having slight trouble of picking witch one. So living in Connecticut in the New England area, the Wagner Would be ideal for me then sense it takes shorter time to warm up and cool down if I am trying to achieve colder temps sooner do to the climate that I live in. The vsrf would be better in colder climates do to the ambient air being colder to achieve longer cold air longer, right?
I'm looking to getting VRSF step 5, currently I am on stage 1 (BM3 tune) My question is I have a evolution racewerks charge pipe and wanted to know if the VRSF IC work well with it as far as fitment.
That's bullshit, that kids are running around saying... Because... Need for speed, I guess. It doesn't really work like that. If you apply overkill to your intercooler, the added weight is the only drawback. You wont get more lag, than you already had. I have the 7.5 vrsf, and it makes an incredible "whoosh" when I put boost through it. Heard even better with my open intakes and vented carbon fiber hood.
No one talks about the weight of aftermarket intercooler. Glad you brought it up but was hopping you would’ve state any noticeable experience with balance of car.
I forgot to mention that I got this intercooler for 400 and I'm looking to drop more weight upfront for clearance issues. So based off of that it was worth it, especially since I can reuse the vrsf intercooler.
You ever noticed that the air going into the engine is not filtered? Think about it? The intake going to the engine is just a pipe that goes into the intercooler. And then intercooler doesn't have a filter to filter the air. So whatever gets in there goes in the engine cylinders. And there goes your engine in no time.
@@FritzRamos I looked at me new intercooler and didn't see any filter there. I even cleaned it. The water flowed freely thru the fins. Like nothing was there. The intake is for the turbo inlet. Not for the intake btw
@@realtruth97 What the hell are you on about? The air goes into the air filter, then flows into the turbo, then flows through the intercooler into the engine. Air intake starts at the air filter.
Bro, the air initially enters the system through the air filter. Then it it is ejaculated by the turbo through the intercooler then to the intake manifold. That means all the air is filtered that enters the engine
Just done the stepped 6.5 vrsf and the fitting was kind of sh*tty. Would not buy vrsf again. Should have spent the extra butter and probably have gone csf or got one custom built.
*Incredibly* well-made video. Great audio levels, music isn't too loud, and you've got helpful voiceover during the b-roll / installation pieces. I have an M2 but yours is one of the more informative intercooler videos I've found so far. Thank you!
Nice comparison, my M235i also installed the EVO 2 Competition intercooler and N55 catted downpipe from Wagner Tuning.
Nice? How long have you had it in and how is it holding up?
@@FritzRamos I've had them installed since Feb 2021, along with ER charge pipes, Quaife LSD, ARMASPEED air filter, Bootmod3 Stage 2 91 octane.
Daily driving most of the time, occasional drifting around the track, and it's working fine so far.
The recent daily driving water temperature is about 95 degrees Celsius, and about 110 degrees Celsius after half an hour of mid-low speed drift.
Another great video. I’ve had the EVO and VRSF on my m235i honestly for daily driving can’t go wrong with either one.
Thank you. What did you end up with?
Perfect timing. Just swapped out my upgraded cooler and went with the Wagner Evo2 comp. You deserve way more subs 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Thank you. What did you have before?
Wow didn't know there was such a huge weight difference between VSRF and Wagner. I would go for Wagner anytime!
Since it at the very front it's pretty noticeable as well, especially on wider turns
@@FritzRamos just got my wagner evo 3 for my 335is n54
Thank you for providing this video and information in it....made it easier as to what i should get.
Your welcome. Glad I could help
Great vid Fritz along with the thorough comparison. I am more sure of the one I need for my app (tube fin). Thanks a lot!
Thanks, that's awesome. Happy to help
Photos coming soon...
@@eddiereyes3235 awesome! hit me up on IG. @vroomtuber
I have the VRSF and it seems to work fine for me. I love the look of the Wagner in black. Too bad rocks are going to chip all that paint off.
Thanks for going through the trouble to make this video, I liked and subscribed.
I love you new style of video production. More outside setting. I love that.
What tripod do you use?
Also, kudos with black intercooler. It has proven that the black one performs better to silver "just that color finish" makes a huge difference. I have explained that a while ago. And, was proven by Mighty Car Mod.
Thank you! I did not know that. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for sharing!
There are videos countering the MCM tests. ruclips.net/video/z_mmmXTbLP0/видео.html
I did the upgrade on last week end. In conjunction of wagner evo 2, I installed ftp charge pipe, mst turbo inlet pipe, and DV+ gfb. I chose fin and tube design for the weight saving, for me is the most important factor, on stage 1. I love the quality of the wagner and ftp.
It's absolute cooling ability is lower
I just bought a 2015 M235i with 101,000 miles on the clock. Single lower (middle aged lady) and very well taken care of, so it was a very easy decision to make. Onto my question... Why does my cluster look different than yours? I have a digital fuel consumption gauge under the RPM, but it looks like your larger center digital display is newer and provides a lot more information. What am I missing here? By the way, thanks for all the amazing videos you've made! I can't wait to get started working on my car. I'm not sure what was last serviced, so I'm thinking about just doing everything. Spark Plugs, Oil, Diff Fluid, Trans Fluid, all the different pipes you've mentioned in your previous videos. Let me know if there is anything else I should consider.
His cluster is the "basic" one, it has only a small digital display where it shows all the infos. Your 235i has the extended display.
Lol sure everyone selling their Bmw say that 😂
@@TheTruelakersfan Well, it’s one thing when you can actually see the records 😉. Actually, since I’m here, I’ll update… 108,000, I noticed a small oil leak around the Valve Cover Gasket. Bought a new Valve Cover + Gasket + Spark Plugs + Coils and replaced it all with a friend for a total of $800. Now I’m at 111,000 and it has been smooth sailing. This is my second BMW with over 100K (previous 08 335i). These engines are like Porsche… they’ve been building them and perfecting them for a while now.
Love the color of your car man. Great video.
Appreciate it! Hope it was helpful
La paramètre à prendre en compte est aussi le Lag turbo . Plus il est gros plus le Lag sera importent .
Another excellent video, much appreciated. I have the same brand of intercooler for the F32 and need figure out If I should fit it or give it to a shop to to do.
Sorry, this is just not a good comparison. No one should be testing intercoolers this way, it should be Ambient temp vs IAT. Did you run any WOT logs to show what the delta was between the two? The VRSF can get within 10-20F of ambient, Vs the Wagner which is usually around 20F
I would watch out for those jack stands with the circular base. I've read they can be unsafe. Essentially if something happens that causes the stand to tilt it can end up rolling out the side causing your car to fall. Don't know how much it actually happens but it makes sense to me and I don't want to risk it. I have a similar style of stands but with a hexagonal base that should be less prone to rolling.
Thanks for looking out! 🙏 I will definitely keep an eye on that. That would definitely be a bad day.
Hi Fritz, Wich one did you keep on the car? Did you also try logging the car with WOT and checking the IAT's? Can't make up my mind wich one to get for my M235i. Keep up the good work!
Another awesome video 👍🏼
Thank you for the support 🙏
Like your videos but can you lower the background music while you speak
No problem
What size/model is the VRSF please? cos the links don't work anymore. What brand/type and size would you suggest? for 20% bumper to bumper traffic, then 50% slower but moving 30-40mph traffic, with 30% open road? Btw, I have VRSF charge and down pipe. Running MHD stage 2. With go to Stage 2+ when get intercooler and BMS intake. 98 octane zero ethanol gas. VRSF is a lot more common in New Zealand, and my local Euro place sells and installs them btw. Thank you heaps. p.s. My car is an M135i with EWG. So same N55 engine as yours.
I’m having slight trouble of picking witch one. So living in Connecticut in the New England area, the Wagner Would be ideal for me then sense it takes shorter time to warm up and cool down if I am trying to achieve colder temps sooner do to the climate that I live in. The vsrf would be better in colder climates do to the ambient air being colder to achieve longer cold air longer, right?
Waiting to install the MMR performance intercooler, unfortunately cant find anyone else with it..
Anything related to handling that you noticed differently because of the increased weight Vs the OEM?
Thanks for the info. Do you have stats on the aftermarket vs original part temps?
Hi Thomas! I don't, but on forums I saw people reporting Temps ranging in the highs of 35-55 degrees celsius
is this good for 700hp crank n54?
The link for the Wagner intercooler was for the e chassis in your bio would it fit the f chassis too?
Thanks for catching that. This one is for the F Chassis bit.ly/35h2wOe
I'm looking to getting VRSF step 5, currently I am on stage 1 (BM3 tune) My question is I have a evolution racewerks charge pipe and wanted to know if the VRSF IC work well with it as far as fitment.
If it mounts up fine to the OEM Intercooler then it should work
@@FritzRamos thank you
I still can’t manage to find a boost pipe and your link is giving me a 404 error. Anything else you could think of?
Sorry about that. I helped my friend install another brands boost pipe and it went on just as smooth. Give this one a try: ebay.us/LNSxaT
Excellent video
Any change in the amount of turbo lag caused by larger FMIC when compared both?
No turbo lag was experienced with either intercooler
That's bullshit, that kids are running around saying... Because... Need for speed, I guess. It doesn't really work like that.
If you apply overkill to your intercooler, the added weight is the only drawback.
You wont get more lag, than you already had.
I have the 7.5 vrsf, and it makes an incredible "whoosh" when I put boost through it. Heard even better with my open intakes and vented carbon fiber hood.
what are your thoughts on the CSF and Active Autowerke intercoolers?
Sorry, I haven't had a chance to try them
No one talks about the weight of aftermarket intercooler. Glad you brought it up but was hopping you would’ve state any noticeable experience with balance of car.
what's the milage on your m235 as if right now?
Fritz do you think it’s worth the upgrade coming from the vrsf
I forgot to mention that I got this intercooler for 400 and I'm looking to drop more weight upfront for clearance issues. So based off of that it was worth it, especially since I can reuse the vrsf intercooler.
are you willing to sell any of those two ?
Already sold sorry
Would this result also be on the 328i?
Yes. The n20/n26 uses the same intercooler
You ever noticed that the air going into the engine is not filtered?
Think about it?
The intake going to the engine is just a pipe that goes into the intercooler.
And then intercooler doesn't have a filter to filter the air.
So whatever gets in there goes in the engine cylinders.
And there goes your engine in no time.
The air passes through a filter in the air box
@@FritzRamos I looked at me new intercooler and didn't see any filter there.
I even cleaned it.
The water flowed freely thru the fins.
Like nothing was there.
The intake is for the turbo inlet.
Not for the intake btw
@@realtruth97 What the hell are you on about? The air goes into the air filter, then flows into the turbo, then flows through the intercooler into the engine. Air intake starts at the air filter.
Bro, the air initially enters the system through the air filter. Then it it is ejaculated by the turbo through the intercooler then to the intake manifold. That means all the air is filtered that enters the engine
Just done the stepped 6.5 vrsf and the fitting was kind of sh*tty. Would not buy vrsf again. Should have spent the extra butter and probably have gone csf or got one custom built.