How to Stop Expecting Pain or Symptoms
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- How to Stop Expecting Pain or Symptoms
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The brain can create everything you expect, so also the positive things
Absolutely.
I’m starting my TMS journey now and feel so blessed to have found your channel. I never thought I’d be able to dance again but suddenly I know that I will.
You got this! My fast start playlist will help: DansFastStart.com
I’m new to this but have been saying out loud a lot, “my symptoms are not physical they’re caused by my brain perceiving danger but you know what brain, I’m actually fine. I’m safe.” I say it when I’m walking my dog. I say “walking up stairs (or whatever) is not dangerous brain” then I laugh at how silly my brain is. Not condemning myself but just trying to to laugh like oh you’re silly. Same with sitting on the couch or whatever my brain has perceived as dangerous. It is a process but I’m determined. Thank you Dan. You the man.
This concept is what keeps me stuck. I realize I am hyper vigilant towards the pain, continually aware of it to the point of creating pain. I wake up pain free and cycle through the process like clock work. I pray I'm able to change my thinking that I can regain my life again. This video was helpful!
Awareness of your thoughts and a decision not to take them seriously. Shift your focus to something more fun or productive.
I have learned some Feldenkrais whey h makes movement easier and all calms the autonomic nervous system. I do some simple exercises in bed each morning, setting my intentions for the day.
I am in the same place. My mind just has a pull to be hypervigilent. Hard to change my focus but working on it.
And me… 😮
Stay busy to keep your mind off the pain.
Amazing how we program our brains negatively without realising. Trying to just keep flipping it if it gets through security. Today getting out, arm pain sigh anyway got out, pain gone. Bit of shopping. Out half hour IBS symptoms, go with it but the overthinking trying to take over. 3/4 hour on, I'm still sat in car, there's been tears whilst I wait for your post. Symptoms dropped a bit so manageable. Am very aware, still reassuring myself. Will go indoors get warm, eat something and get back out. Thank you.
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For the past year I have felt unsteady and off balance because of TMS. So now I worry about dealing with it again every morning. This helped. Thank you.
Dan, the pelvic pain came on a day before, and I know it was because a thought floated in my mind two days ago thanking God, I don’t see it anymore. And here it was, served to me on a platter. Though I am aware what caused this to arrive, I am sure as hell that with my composure and calm reassurance, it’s not going to stay for long. Always grateful for you and your words, xoxoxo Shveta
Excellent.
Same with me and migraines… whenever I’m thinking about how good it is that I didn’t have one for a while, it comes back during the next day or two.
Here we are 2 yrs later just finding you and implementing all the amazing mindset hax. It makes sense. We believe. We're doing the work abd seeing results on this new journey. Huge ty❤🎉🎉
"You don't have to believe your own thinking." I stumbled into that truth years ago and as a minister it's really helped me to help other people in many ways. Great point!
Excellent.
I've not thought about this but this makes sense. Mindset has been everything in my PDP recovery. Perceived danger pain is the perfect description. It states the problem in the name. Anyway I'm definitely going to apply today's video, thanks Dan.
Love it.
I use your method daily now. I visualize a positive outcome, then tell myself I’m good, I’m ok and I get off the couch and regardless of the symptoms, I do what I need to do that day. I got “Off the Rails” for a few months and it was really difficult to get back to indifference but it IS POSSIBLE!
Beautiful Larry. Thrilled to hear the commitment in your voice.
I have CFS. If I go for an intentional walk, like ‘I’m going to walk 200m today to build up my stamina’, I usually get PEM. But I can easily walk around the shops, much further than 200m, and be totally fine 🤯
Yeah.. this!! If I do something random I can usually cope vs planned…
How are you doing now?
Sending best
Am loving the membership side of Pain Free You Dan! I just joined this week and started the videos tonight - they are FANTASTIC! After doing therapy with my doctor for TMS (with sporadic success), your program is EXACTLY what I needed. I was too focused on the digging to find the ‘fix’. And the acronym ’TMS’ never felt right - it’s another label for a ‘diagnosis’. PDP actually describes the symptoms! Simple yet profound! I’m so hopeful for the first time in over 10 years that I can get better! 💥🥳🎉💪🏻🕺🏼🙏🏻
Know you can get well. You are on the right track. Thank you for the kind feedback on the group program. For anyone wanting to check out what Nicole is speaking about, check out: PainFreeYou.com/join
Thanks Nicole. See you in the group calls!
Great video , Dan. Thank you. I wanted to share something funny. When I ask my 7yr old son how he’s doing , he will say “I’m good” and I immediately think about you and that “I’m good” technique video. Just wanted to share that with you.
Love that!
Watching this reminded me I KNOW it’s TMS. I just needed to remind myself again about the amplification of symptoms from the hyper vigilant brain. I had moved close to 6 cubic metres of mulch a couple of days ago and It floored me. I actually thought I had covid I was feeling so bad. But I know I’m strong. I used to work harder than that on a daily basis. I’m 62 but I don’t believe the body just gets old. I was starting to doubt again…. SO thanks again Dan. I’m going through the vids I haven’t been watching as I had been symptom free after seeing my kids interstate. I had ZERO symptoms for five days while in Melbourne. ZERO symptoms until the case numbers of omicron starting going through the roof When I got back home and the youngest in Melbourne caught covid. I needed a refresher reminder on the fear factor. The symptoms have a,ready subsided since watching three. THANKS for your consistency Dan. Nice to come back for some reassurance ⭐️👍❤️
Welcome back. I'm here every morning if you need to brush up on this stuff.
Love ya stuff buddy!
This is me! I worry about sitting on my office chair and bending over! But if I sit on the sofa I feel ok or even feel nothing! Totally mind boggling! I will be trying this! Thank you x
This is really tough for me. Your advice is very helpful, looking forward to trying it.
Thanks, Dan! Liked what you said as usual! You're the BEST!
I appreciate that!
Thanks Dan. I needed to hear that this morning
Excellent.
Thank you for your videos. It gives me hope that I can overcome this chronic pain I've had for 6 years. 😊
I love all your videos!
Thanks Cathy.
This was great Dan. Very helpful.
Glad you think so!
I have just started this journey and have been wondering the same thing. Thank you for making this video.
I really love your use of calming words to rename TMS ..."perceived danger pain" and I feel like I've heard another term in some of your other videos, "distraction pain syndrome." It is soo soothing to my brain (and then of course, my body) when I call it that!
Awesome. I used to call it distraction pain, but believe perceived danger pain is actually more accurate. :-)
Needed this one !!!!
Excellent
You always know exactly how it is to go through these things. Thank you with all my heart.
I appreciate that
I'm very thankful for this video and your channel !
Glad to hear that!
Perfect timing for me to find this subject🎉 thank you! You are so wright.
You are so welcome.
Thanks Dan, I really needed this message. Also thanks to the people who asked this question, it was going to be my next one during the group coaching! I've realised that when I cured my back pain over 10 years ago by reading Sarno's books, the real threat to my financial and emotional wellbeing was being removed. I just needed to know about tms and why I was experiencing the pain. So I've just got to work on convincing my subconscious that I haven't messed up my recovery from foot surgery, and to not be drawn into feeling surprise when I can put my feet up and I don't feel pain, as invariably this brings it on, and practise positive visualisation more frequently, especially before walking in normal shoes. I do try talking to my brain saying how protective and comfortable normal (ie enclosed) shoes are, but my subconscious isn't convinced yet. Any sort of pressure on my feet is interpreted as a threat, therefore I'm going back to the assessments to do them again. I've conquered tms before, and I know I can do it again, as your perceived danger pain explanation makes so much sense to me.
Just what I needed today. I like the dimmer switch comment. Its a good visualization tool.
I like it too.
THIS IS A KEY MESSAGE ABOUT ANTICIPATORY FEAR TS INTERFERENCE WITH RECOVERY. THANK YOU, DAN FOR EXPLAINING THIS
You are quite welcome.
Interesting and helpful video. This certainly applies to me! Thanks Dan
Glad to hear it!
I'm physically safe and Good To Go! Thank You!
Yes you are!
I do expect pain when I have to do something that is a known trigger (such as when sitting). This video was helpful and I am going to apply the techniques you mentioned in this video. Thanks for all you do Dan! I love your videos
You're so welcome!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Great video. This is so true. My stressors don’t change on a daily basis. My alcoholis daughter doesn’t change, so I have too.
Thanks for sharing!! Tough situation.
Thank you for sharing this. My experience of the awareness is not understanding where that imaginary line is that will put me into pain. For instance when I am doing swim therapy I have to be sure keep my eye on the clock not to go over 20 min. Working on my stamina. I don't fear it I just know that it's smart. But there are days when it smacks me down. I have dealt with chronic pain for over 20 years . I was a 110% person on my job. My whole spine is affected do to so many surgeries, on top of having my
r/shoulder's rotatorcuff torn off during back surgery. I have a reversed rotator cuff replacement.
I've gone through the program of mind over matter that had Sorono's info. I understand the concept & try the steps but it hasn't worked like I was hoping it would. So, I keep trying & hoping it will work.
It's challenging to ask the brain to turn off pain if you believe your body is the cause of the pain. Perceived danger is what turns pain on or keeps it going. Consistent messages of safety is the solution. ruclips.net/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/видео.html
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I’m so thankful I found this video, Thank you! I have pelvic/bladder/genital pain. I have been diagnosed with IC and vulvodynia. I expect pain all the time. Every time I need to pee I expect pain and obviously there is etc .
I had the same thing happen to me as a male. It’s all fear related. It’s happened to me three times. It all happened because of a fear that I might have an STD. Just try to dial the fear down and to not control what you feel. We got this
Good morning from 2c London. 🌞
Good morning RB! 4 c here and waiting for some ☀️! Sending you a comforting hug for today! 🤗
Good morning R B from Yorkshire ☺️
@@paulamorphett9131 I was born in the ambulance in Doncaster, mum visiting relatives and I was in a hurry (my life story lol)
@@Inge508 thank you. Blue skies help, even when it's freezing. 👍 Enjoy your day too
@@1STBUCKLEY wow you was in a hurry , I'm near Leeds ☺️
Hi Dan. You’re looking particularly perky and energetic today. The glasses really suit you. Thanks for all that you do ❤
Thank you.
Thanks, I love your videos. I always try to translate this to fatigue, which is the major symptome for me. Trying to calm my nervous system. And wonder if all talk about the nervous system also becomes something I need to take out of my vocabulary...? Or if I should do everything to calm myself..?
This me too , carnt seem to shift the fatigue . Hopefully we will see some improvement soon 🙏❤️
Fatigue is just another symptom of TMS/Perceived Danger Symptom. Focus on safety, not getting rid of fatigue.
I absolutely do this and find it hard not to, partly because I’ve never had any experience to “prove me wrong” so to speak. I predict that I will experience bloating after I eat because it’s happened for EVERY meal for 20 years and once it’s there, it doesn’t go. I anticipate it happening so often and as a result it feels like it’s very much directly caused by food / eating / gut dysfunction. How can the brain “create” bloating and visible distension?! Definitely something I need to ponder more!
I heard about a woman who had chronic insomnia. She made the problem bigger by deciding she could predict which nights on which she wouldn't be able to sleep. She developed a habit of picking out a movie to watch on the nights she thought she couldn't sleep. She did indeed need the movies when she prepared this way. As you can guess, it was a nocebo that she created for herself!
I seemed to have missed this. A yr old yet timely for me. Its as if this was made for Tom. I just got up….i was a 1. Im already wondering : how long what time am i 5 then 8. I took the Pain Test again yesterday: i was 39
Glad you liked the video.
I find this challenging with PTSD. I Go negative ALOT
Teaching the brain safety can help with the PTSD too. If you want to see of your symptoms are created by your brain, take the assessments on this page: www.PainFreeYou.com/start
If it indicates TMS/Perceived Danger Pain, you can get well by following my recommendations.
Watch my fast start playlist. I share what is going on and what to do about it. Watch, take notes, implement, repeat. ruclips.net/p/PLRJmnkn2kTTIl4frNvmpenr49xcTmVl2H
Visualization of anticipating a painfree motion is very difficult for me. Inevitably the nerve pain comes into that visualization.
I know it is difficult. But if it were possible to imagine that pain free movement, what would that look like?
This is exactly what happened to me this week. Every month, 2 days before my cycle I get a really bad headache, however, due to stress I think, my cycle length has been off. So I have been using an app that tells me when those 2 days will be and it always happens.
However, this month, my days were out and I checked my app wondering where the pain was and I saw that it was 2 days before, and guess what... later that day, the pain came on. But I reassured myself that it was TMS and I knew I was ok. And at times it started to ebb and flow and fizzle out. So much so I thought sod it and decided to clean the house! It was pretty colourful at times but normally it's like that for 8 hours, but it was for less time. Then the next day my cycle started so I knew 100% that it was TMS not PMS! lol Because that was actually not 2 days before!!!! My brain believed it was 2 days before so it needed pain!
I've now deleted the app so I can't tell when those 2 days before will be so I cannot predict it. (However, I did see next month's timing, unfortunately). Can you see any other way I can deal with this Dan?
Yes - consistent messages that there is ZERO reason to get a headache at all and the number of days before your cycle are meaningless. Not to say there aren't any NORMAL hormonal changes, but they are not dangerous. Your brain MAY be sensing the NORMAL hormonal changes and interpreting them with an "Uh Oh!" instead of a "No big deal". Clarity, calm, consistency.
@@PainFreeYou Thanks Dan. Yeh I will try this next time round. It's incredible how powerful the brain is isn't it! I have proof now that this is just another trick the brain is playing on me so I am going to try this again next month. Thank you.
My response is get up and move. Move move move. I can't sit still or lay down and relax unless I'm wiped out. Predictive coding every night. Spasms so bad legs lift off the bed😂gotta break that brain chain. Ty Dan❤🎉
I’ve been working on myself but I had an interesting thing happen to me the other day. I had gotten over the fear from all pain, wasn’t expecting it at all. I even healed myself of anxiety/panic disorder about 6 months ago.Then got hit out of the blue a couple of days ago with some pretty bad pain and anxiety. Can you help me understand what might have happened? Thanks!
Not all perceived dangers are in our conscious awareness. If it's not an obvious danger signal, you don't need to figure it out. Jump right to calm reassurance and soothing. Remind yourself that it's all temporary and will pass quickly.
Hi Dan, how about if something happens suddenly, such as laughing, coughing, sneezing and hiccup. There has no time for me to expect pain when these happen in a second, but it is painful when I in the about situations. Any advice? Thank you.
No, you can't change the expectation, but you can change your response to it when it hurts. Regardless of you not being able to prevent it, there may be an automatic fear response when it happens. Respond in a calm reassuring way and see how that goes.
Do we need to do meditations. A lot of people say meditation is the key to recovery. For me, I get more pain when I meditate, what am I doing wrong?
Everyone is different. I tried meditation and it was not the solution for me. I view meditation as a fixing activity. And every time you do it, you ask - "did it work"? And when you still have symptoms, frustration ensues along with self judgment that we aren't meditating properly. My program does not include meditation or breath work or other fixing activities. You can learn more about it here: www.PainFreeYou.com/join
@@PainFreeYou thank you so much
Hey Dan, I have been practicing what you've mentioned here. But I struggle with negative awareness - as in, whenever I try calm reassurance, another part of my mind goes into thinking "you are still resisting what is with random affirmations", "you are still caught up in obsession with your pain", "you are trying to push away negative thoughts so invariably these will cause pain". And then I kind of feel tired, overwhelmed and frustrated. How do I get out of these negative associations surrounding awareness?
Do less of the calm reassurance. If you notice negative thoughts, you can simply not engage with them at all. If calm reassurance doesn't feel right, don't do it. If you notice negative fearful thinking, simply say "I'm not thinking about that now" and get back to whatever you were doing before those thoughts came along. We don't have to stop our thinking or fix our thinking. We can watch them pass by with zero engagement.
You will be aware of the pain. It's how you respond that matters. Ideally, a "so what" or "whatever" attitude of indifference is great. If you are unconcerned by the pain, the brain will realize the pain is not dangerous.
I’d like to echo what Dan said regarding watching Thoughts pass by. I can say for certainty from many years of meditation practice and working with wonderful meditation teachers that this is a big key. Just this practice of watching thoughts. The beauty in this as Dan said is that we do not have to stop thinking. we simply do not give the negative thinking any weight. This practice I believe can really complement the practice of calm reassurance that Dan encourages us to do. So we are consciously giving directions to our brain through this calm reassurance. Through the awareness practice we watch the automatic thinking that may be positive, negative, or neutral. Calm reassurance and watchful awareness. May we all be happy, healthy and wise 🙏😎🙏
@@markmuzeroll2928 thanks a lot Mark. Your comment is really helpful :)
Wow!!!!!! Sometimes my pain comes out of nowhere and I just don’t understand it.
Good information (was what the wow was for)
Hey Dan, Can you repost one of your replies that talks about just living your life and you said as you do this healing will "accidentally " happen. I yes I would have copied it. Thanks
To be honest with you, I don't recall exactly what I said. But you got the main point. Focus on living your life and make that more important than fixing yourself.
Thanks Dan. Your the best
My migraines wake me up in the middle of the night, I wake up terrified, soaked and in the middle of yet another TMS migraine. I meditate night and morning, I know this is TMS from an event years ago, I've read the books, the podcasts, by the way, thank you for yours, I'm with curable, done the Dr Schubiner course and yet I repeat this. Any suggestions anyone?
Hey Toni. I'm sorry you are experiencing this. Since they come on at night during sleep, there is not much you can do while sleeping to influence the subconscious. The two things you can control are whether or not you go to be expecting the migraine and how you respond if one happens to occur. This video explains more.
ruclips.net/video/sE3_cs7YgCY/видео.html
@@PainFreeYou to be honest after 65 years of them and the last 9 years as mentioned I think my default setting is expectation as I really don't know any different. Thank you for the link I'll try it out now.
@@tonilamb2481 What downside is there? Expect the best and choose your response.
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@@PainFreeYou thank you
@@tonilamb2481 Yes, your default is expecting them. However we have conscious control of setting expectations that we want. Do that intentionally before bed.
I don't get dizzy with certain movements, but 24/7 when I'm on my feet. How is the "I'm good approach" supposed to work here?
That one approach may not work in every situation. But try this. When you notice the dizzy feelings, say I'm good. Give it as little fear or attention as possible.
How about the fact that I experienced the symptom of numbness in my feet from stenosis before the doctor described the symptoms. Did my brain make that up? I want to believe in TMS ,but how could I create the symptoms before I even knew about them? Really want to believe it’s PDP.
The brain can create any symptom all on it's own without conscious awareness. The perception of danger can cause it. My fast start playlist will explain more. The third video gives ideas on how you can tell if this is what's going on with you. DansFastStart.com
Hi Dan not sure if you will see this message as this video was 1 year ago I am so bad at doing this my biggest trigger is driving so every morning before I get in my car the minute I wake up the anxiety of it kicks in and then when I'm in the car it sets of symptoms brain is going oh you are going to get dizzy now cos you are driving and it's dangerous any advice on calming myself before and during please
Two things you can focus on: ruclips.net/video/sE3_cs7YgCY/видео.html
Safety is created: ruclips.net/video/Ez9Ez49M8Ig/видео.html
@@PainFreeYou thank you so much Dan I will watch these thank you for replying have a lovely day 😊
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Does this apply to people who suffer from Myofascial pain syndrome along with mild retrolisthesis (C4 in relation to C5),and straightened cervical lordosis?
In my case, I feel dull ache when using my upper back & arm (right part) for a long period of time and when my muscles are at rest state (just sitting, lying down), I usually feel discomfort like my upper back (right part) is sensitive (when wearing bra, tight clothes), feel a little itchy/tingling sensation?
We don't rule in TMS with medical diagnosis'. There are some assessments that will tell if your symptoms are created by your brain or your body. They are here:
www.PainFreeYou.com/start
@@PainFreeYou The throbbing pain in my right upper back especially attacking at night + radiating into my right arm is already gone (it started at the end of February until April) but for some reason I still feel discomfort/sensitive/little itchy/tingling sensation.
@@LyraGomez-vd2uq Ok - but the way to know if your symptoms are TMS are to do the assessments that I just pointed you to in my last comment.
Once you KNOW that it's TMS, then you can apply the same lack of concern and lack of fear to the remaining symptoms.
i just took the test and got 30%
@@LyraGomez-vd2uq A score of 30 is TMS which means your symptoms can be reversed through the approach I teach daily. This is great news.
Hi Dan I can't see your answers? the screen is white with no text on this video Greetings Anja
I'm not sure what you mean? The video and the captions works here. If you mean you want the words on the screen, be sure to click the CC button.
Question is why do you expect it¿
Past experience and Fear will cause us to expect symptoms.
Thanks Dan. I see you wear computer glasses sometimes - I’m guessing to prevent dry eyes or headaches. Could this be just another TMS manifestation I wonder? Millions of people are wearing them these days.
No, I do not have any symptoms whatsoever. But the blue light from devices is not good for us. Especially after dark. The blue light signals to our body and brain that it's 12:00 Noon which can affect our sleep. I simply choose to protect against these blue lights. Not TMS.
I do not mean this to sound rude, but you look spaced out.
Sometimes I record videos while tired. Who knows what was up 2 years ago when I shot this video.