No sponsorship on this one, which means I'd doubly appreciate it if you checked out the new Historigraph poster store! www.historigraph.media/store I'm trying to get back to selling these, this time cutting out the middleman and shipping them direct, which means cheaper prices and all of the money paid goes to support the creation of more videos. So far a new poster on the Falklands War is up for sale, and I'm hoping to add more if the demand for posters is there!
Col. Claus Schenk von Stauffenberg's eldest son Berthold was 10 years old when the assassination attempt was carried out, he became an officer in West Germany's Bundeswehr from 1956 until he retired in 1994 with a rank of Major General and still alive today. In 1980 the street along the Bendlerblock where Stauffenberg and 3 other high ranking officers were executed was renamed Stauffenberg Straße and the memorial plaque is placed on the spot where they were shot.
Plotting the movements out on the map, showing the dispositions while explaining the history as a narrative brings so much more than just a video will. Historigraph really is one of the best teachers of military history around!
I am familiar with the plot, however your graphical format gave it a different way to comprehend and understand it. I hope you are attracting commercial work opportunities through your well demonstrated communication skills.
@@nostradamus7648 In Australia we call that "knifing" and it's actually how about 80% of our prime ministers lose their jobs. It's seen as a positive aspect where you don't need to wait for an election if your leader turns out to be not capable anymore. Unfortunately its also used on highly capable people (like Kevin Rudd, who while the best PM we had this century, is famously a jerk personally).
The most important thing to take away from the plot, is that Hitler was not unopposed. There were those that stood against him and paid the ultimate price. How history could've been different if not for a sturdy table. Most of the plotters families suffered as well. Most died, yet some survived. I would advise people to look up, Transport of concentration camp inmates to Tyrol, where they along with allied and german prisoners were rescued by Heer soldiers and then later US Army forces.
The loyalty which the Wehrmacht and the average German showed to Hitler during this event really tells you exactly how far he'd reached into ever facet of society.
He was truly loved in germany before the war and that continued until the enemies were at the gates and people began trying to save their own skins. Its why after the war generals blamed him as they did not want the shame. Pretty sure most of people afterwards did that out of shame.
Fun fact: Even though Fromm was executed later on, the decision was made to let him die by firing squad rather than hanging for stopping the plot, albeit for his own survival.
I do appreciate that they understood the significance of such a desperate act from the perspective it would gain in history as much as what they hoped it would actually achieve.
The plotters were inefficient. Stauffenberg did not verify the result. And the first device would have set off the explosive in the second bomb, even if it had not been armed. The second bomb had no other use. Leaving it out of the case served no purpose.
Just finished reading Fatherland and how Artur Nebe was supposedly tried and executed by piano wire as a July conspirator. Good timing! Edit: I notice his mugshot being up there on the wall too! 18:17, 14th Column and 2nd Row from the bottom!
I know this will be very controversial but I think in some way it was a good thing that the plotters failed. There would have been a lot more Germans who thinking that Hitler died as a martyr who was assassinated by cowards (rather than him dying as a coward who shot himself). And since Germany still controlled huge parts of Europe in July 1944 there could have been a 2nd "stab in the back - myth" (basically: "If Hitler hadnt been assassinated we would have won the war, we were still in control of a lot of territory, it was only because of those traitors that we lost").
@@Septimus_ii I think he means that had they succeeded, it would have been worse. The plotters would not have been able to end the war without destroying their support and if they had failed to take control or keep it after Hitler’s death, the new government might have fought the war to the end regardless, with Hitler as a martyr.
@@generaltom6850it would not have mattered. The allies had already decided that the only acceptable end to the war was the complete occupation and denazification of Germany.
@@Septimus_ii Yes, among these casualties a major chunk was from Germany, their final two years casualties exceeded the entire sum of those in earlier war years, and in a way the final war year was the Allies finally eliminating and dismantling the heart and root of German military and manpower, where afterwards no Freikorps or any resemblance of an even second-rate army would be possible in Germany at least for a decade, without any external help.
This really shows how committed to cause the Nazi's were. No one really talks about it either or researches it. They would be completely and utterly destroyed than to surrender and try and save some sort of Germany. The Nazi's never left themselves any outs. Which is very different than most politicians around the world. Most politicians leave themselves many outs. It's really sad. Geobbles had seven kids and he would kill six of them, his wife and himself. How do people get like this? The extent of how angry they were with the world is completely misunderstood today and will probably never be completely realized.
The Allies had already publicly agreed to carve up Germany into occupation zones and annex much of its land the year before this plot happened. Therefore, no one had any reason to surrender when the result was unacceptable. Add to that the German propaganda about Wunderwaffen and the well known atrocities of the Red Army, many Germans, whether Nazis or apolitical, weren't going to simply surrender when the lives of their families were at risk.
@@jadger1871 That's not true. Since the Germans didn't surrender they were completely left to the will of the Allies. Which meant the complete and utter destruction and occupation of their country to this day. Their POWs were not returned by Russia. As soon as Hitler was killed the war was over. Even Rommel would rather kill himself than take his wife and family put them in the car drive eight hours to allied lines. If he did that he would have been resettled somewhere else and probably had a decent career after. But no he'd rather die than surrender. Not to mention they are only saving months at this point.
As best we can tell (or rather, historians can tell) Rommel was involved in the plot at least to some extent. He knew about it and eventually came to support it although he initially preferred arresting Hitler over killing him. Under torture and interrogation various members of the plot told the Nazis that Rommel was a part of the plan. They went to Rommel and told him that he could testify, and likely be found guilty and be executed, or commit suicide, and they would cover up his involvement, and bury him a war hero. He chose the latter since his family would be treated well and receive a pension from the government. Since he had been injured in a strafing of his staff car a few days earlier, he was given cyanide pills and the coverup was that he had died due to complications of his injuries he sustained during the strafing.
Not exactly, because the extremely high esteem he was held in by the military and German public he was offered a choice, either commit suicide and the cover story would be that he died from wounds he had recently sustain in an allied airstrike, or be given a humiliating public show trial and be branded a traitor. He chose the former.
Less devastation and destruction to be sure but thats more due to German infighting allowing the Allies to advance faster. The Allies were very firm in their position of unconditional surrender to all parties
i doubt it would have been much different. Maby a few more soldiers/civilians alive here (Less holocaust, probably no battle of the bulge, etc.), maybe a bit less destruction of industrie there. But i dont believe the final peace brokered would have been altered much. The teheran conference already happened at this point and it was there that the groundwork for europes division in peace time was laid... i again doubt a "valkyrie"-Government would have much say in proceedings.
Thank you for not perpetuating the “good guy Rommel” myth, as is so often done when speaking of this topic. I had no idea the plot was this dramatic, awesome video!
I never researched this topic other than watching the movie, and the cast was very well chosen, they seem like the real stauggenberg and other “mutineers”. I do wonder what would’ve happened if they succeeded, would there have been no division of germany?
Probably the same outcome without the additional deaths and destruction. The Allies unambiguously demanded unconditional surrender. Understandably they did not want another 1918 style 'armistice'.
The more interesting question for history is why did it take men like these ten years to try and deal with Hitler and the Nazis and save Germany from such evil monsters? The Prussian aristocracy and the Wehrmacht always knew what Hitter and the Nazis were and what they were up to from the very beginning!
No, the stuff the nootzis were peddling was popular common views throughout the world, such as anti semitism. They also became very popular as economic conditions improved in the 30s
@@edsonpacheco8318 lmao what? That's not alliance. That's Poland trying to push back the possibility of an invasion because they were sandwiched between enemies with one murderous, expansionist, genocidal state (USSR) and from 1933 another. There was no alliance. Like the one between Gemany and USSR when they called it a non-aggression pact (even though they didn't share a border) and in eality they were dividing Europe among themselves, traded weapons, resourcers, prisoners, had similar lists of "undesirable" people they wanted to exterminate and NKVD and Gestapo had joint conferences. They also aided each other in battle and had a joint parade in Brest-Litovsk. That's alliance.
I wonder if there is any good analysis of what if Hitler died, even more generally. I know the regime at lots of competition built in as a balance of power to protect Hitler. On that day I wonder who most likely could have also tried to gain authority, how many would have, and who had tge greatest likelihood. I assume one of the big party members or the miltary high command.
Your last point is very important. It was clear that there was zero chance of Germany winning the war, and indeed would be totally overrun within a year. But in that remaining 10 months the casualties were vast among the German military, the Soviet military, the Allied military, the German civilians, many of the occupied countries' civilians, Germany's integrity as a state, and especially among the victims of the holocaust. The coup succeeding wouldn't have made the slightest difference to Germany's chances of winning, but it would have saved many millions of lifes.
I wonder what the numbers at 19:00 are comprised of. It suggests to me they address the numbers of soldiers or military-personnel lost. I wonder if that is indeed the case: How much higher would these numbers be if Holocaust victims and german civilians etc. were to be included.
The problem with this plot is that it may have reenforced Hitlers and his followers believe that he had divine protection and therefore doubting his leadership became blasphemy
@@historigraph Oh I understand how you could come to that conclusion from listening to Nazis (and this isn't an accusation against you personally) but they did those atrocities and were fine doing more, until they saw the war was lost. For me no matter what they say it's the consequences they fear not more war crimes happening.
@punksci6879 it is too easy to demonize your enemies. We often think ourselves better and that we wouldn't follow suit or sit quietly. History and psychology tells us that we are wrong in that thought.
@@historigraph Stauffenberg was a dedicated German supremacist who supported the war and enslaving other nations. Don't know about the others but Stauffenberg was a criminal who rebelled against his boss when he started losing.
@@punksci6879 Plenty of the plotters weren't Nazis at all (von Treskow for example). And many of them had been trying to kill Hitler for literal years.
Germans Army had a courageous army . But Courageous Ukrainian’s Army handed them their keister’s . 1st and 2nd Panzer Division run out energy and men . The 13th Panzer Division fought hard in Budapest . But like this video that got driven back
No sponsorship on this one, which means I'd doubly appreciate it if you checked out the new Historigraph poster store! www.historigraph.media/store
I'm trying to get back to selling these, this time cutting out the middleman and shipping them direct, which means cheaper prices and all of the money paid goes to support the creation of more videos. So far a new poster on the Falklands War is up for sale, and I'm hoping to add more if the demand for posters is there!
Watched this a couple of weeks back on Patreon - you can bet that I’m watching it again here!
Awesome education historical videos, keep it up!
Col. Claus Schenk von Stauffenberg's eldest son Berthold was 10 years old when the assassination attempt was carried out, he became an officer in West Germany's Bundeswehr from 1956 until he retired in 1994 with a rank of Major General and still alive today. In 1980 the street along the Bendlerblock where Stauffenberg and 3 other high ranking officers were executed was renamed Stauffenberg Straße and the memorial plaque is placed on the spot where they were shot.
Plotting the movements out on the map, showing the dispositions while explaining the history as a narrative brings so much more than just a video will. Historigraph really is one of the best teachers of military history around!
This is what I always needed a video that actually easily explains how it all happened! Thank you very much!!
I am familiar with the plot, however your graphical format gave it a different way to comprehend and understand it. I hope you are attracting commercial work opportunities through your well demonstrated communication skills.
Still a more successful coup than Prigrozhin
How did i know that someone would bring that up 😂
Someone pin this please
It's never Prigover
His coup failed by stopping and allowing Putin to get rid of him
I was never a coup. It was more an insurrection. Or as it’s called in Germany a “Putsch”.
I watched the movie Valkyrie for the first time last night - I demand you cease spying on my internet activity immediately.
Video length of 19:45 cannot be a coincidence lol
it's 19:46 for me😢
@dr1o761 1946 for everyone. VaraNiN just felt like he had to stretch it, that's all.
Makes me want to watch the movie again
Makes me think that i would love see you cover the 1991 soviet coup attempt! Its not very well known, id say even less so than valkyrie
What about the Biden coup of 2024? 😂
@@nostradamus7648 Except that coup was actually successful
@@nostradamus7648 I think you mean the Trump coup of 2024. Already put into motion
@@nostradamus7648 In Australia we call that "knifing" and it's actually how about 80% of our prime ministers lose their jobs. It's seen as a positive aspect where you don't need to wait for an election if your leader turns out to be not capable anymore. Unfortunately its also used on highly capable people (like Kevin Rudd, who while the best PM we had this century, is famously a jerk personally).
@letsburn00
"That's not a knife, this is a knife" - Paul Hogan
The most important thing to take away from the plot, is that Hitler was not unopposed. There were those that stood against him and paid the ultimate price. How history could've been different if not for a sturdy table.
Most of the plotters families suffered as well. Most died, yet some survived. I would advise people to look up, Transport of concentration camp inmates to Tyrol, where they along with allied and german prisoners were rescued by Heer soldiers and then later US Army forces.
PAID FFS
@@nostradamus7648paid in full?
new a bit about this already but had no idea of the motivation you speak of even with the limited chance of success etc thank you
We have Valkyrie to thank for that incredible shot of Tom Cruise absolutely CAKED up
I hate that I know which scene that bakery was in
Goddamn Tommy had been hiding that much booty from us all along
Call him Lieutenant Streusel because that boy is a CAKE
A bunch of weirdos
Never knew the details on this
The loyalty which the Wehrmacht and the average German showed to Hitler during this event really tells you exactly how far he'd reached into ever facet of society.
He was truly loved in germany before the war and that continued until the enemies were at the gates and people began trying to save their own skins. Its why after the war generals blamed him as they did not want the shame. Pretty sure most of people afterwards did that out of shame.
I love seeing it in map animation
Fun fact: Even though Fromm was executed later on, the decision was made to let him die by firing squad rather than hanging for stopping the plot, albeit for his own survival.
This was a very good documentary.
Nearly as good as the museum at the bendlerblock it self.
Good work 👍
Nice video! Have you considered doing one on the Georg Elser Plot as well?
Thank you.
Fascinating.
I do appreciate that they understood the significance of such a desperate act from the perspective it would gain in history as much as what they hoped it would actually achieve.
The plotters were inefficient. Stauffenberg did not verify the result. And the first device would have set off the explosive in the second bomb, even if it had not been armed. The second bomb had no other use. Leaving it out of the case served no purpose.
Very fascinant 👏 🔥 👏 🔥 👏
Just finished reading Fatherland and how Artur Nebe was supposedly tried and executed by piano wire as a July conspirator. Good timing!
Edit: I notice his mugshot being up there on the wall too! 18:17, 14th Column and 2nd Row from the bottom!
I know this will be very controversial but I think in some way it was a good thing that the plotters failed. There would have been a lot more Germans who thinking that Hitler died as a martyr who was assassinated by cowards (rather than him dying as a coward who shot himself). And since Germany still controlled huge parts of Europe in July 1944 there could have been a 2nd "stab in the back - myth" (basically: "If Hitler hadnt been assassinated we would have won the war, we were still in control of a lot of territory, it was only because of those traitors that we lost").
True, but was it worth ~10 million casualties in that final year of the war?
@@Septimus_ii I think he means that had they succeeded, it would have been worse. The plotters would not have been able to end the war without destroying their support and if they had failed to take control or keep it after Hitler’s death, the new government might have fought the war to the end regardless, with Hitler as a martyr.
@@generaltom6850it would not have mattered. The allies had already decided that the only acceptable end to the war was the complete occupation and denazification of Germany.
@@Septimus_ii Yes, among these casualties a major chunk was from Germany, their final two years casualties exceeded the entire sum of those in earlier war years, and in a way the final war year was the Allies finally eliminating and dismantling the heart and root of German military and manpower, where afterwards no Freikorps or any resemblance of an even second-rate army would be possible in Germany at least for a decade, without any external help.
@@tmclaug90well the allies goal was complete destruction. Its why they listened to bomber harris etc
This really shows how committed to cause the Nazi's were. No one really talks about it either or researches it. They would be completely and utterly destroyed than to surrender and try and save some sort of Germany. The Nazi's never left themselves any outs. Which is very different than most politicians around the world. Most politicians leave themselves many outs. It's really sad. Geobbles had seven kids and he would kill six of them, his wife and himself. How do people get like this? The extent of how angry they were with the world is completely misunderstood today and will probably never be completely realized.
The Allies had already publicly agreed to carve up Germany into occupation zones and annex much of its land the year before this plot happened. Therefore, no one had any reason to surrender when the result was unacceptable. Add to that the German propaganda about Wunderwaffen and the well known atrocities of the Red Army, many Germans, whether Nazis or apolitical, weren't going to simply surrender when the lives of their families were at risk.
@@jadger1871 That's not true. Since the Germans didn't surrender they were completely left to the will of the Allies. Which meant the complete and utter destruction and occupation of their country to this day. Their POWs were not returned by Russia. As soon as Hitler was killed the war was over. Even Rommel would rather kill himself than take his wife and family put them in the car drive eight hours to allied lines. If he did that he would have been resettled somewhere else and probably had a decent career after. But no he'd rather die than surrender. Not to mention they are only saving months at this point.
Wasn’t Erwin Rommel executed because Hitler thought he was part of the plot?
@@jacobcave1587 he wasn't executed
@@TheMovie12345 He was forced to kill himself. Thats pretty much the same thing.
@@TheMovie12345 well he was forced to commit suicide or else he would be executed and his family as well. Not an execution but as close as it gets
As best we can tell (or rather, historians can tell) Rommel was involved in the plot at least to some extent. He knew about it and eventually came to support it although he initially preferred arresting Hitler over killing him. Under torture and interrogation various members of the plot told the Nazis that Rommel was a part of the plan. They went to Rommel and told him that he could testify, and likely be found guilty and be executed, or commit suicide, and they would cover up his involvement, and bury him a war hero. He chose the latter since his family would be treated well and receive a pension from the government. Since he had been injured in a strafing of his staff car a few days earlier, he was given cyanide pills and the coverup was that he had died due to complications of his injuries he sustained during the strafing.
Not exactly, because the extremely high esteem he was held in by the military and German public he was offered a choice, either commit suicide and the cover story would be that he died from wounds he had recently sustain in an allied airstrike, or be given a humiliating public show trial and be branded a traitor. He chose the former.
Hey, just curious as im a tab hoarder, why is this unlisted?
I wonder what would have changed for germany and the cold war if the war ended this way early
Less devastation and destruction to be sure but thats more due to German infighting allowing the Allies to advance faster. The Allies were very firm in their position of unconditional surrender to all parties
i doubt it would have been much different. Maby a few more soldiers/civilians alive here (Less holocaust, probably no battle of the bulge, etc.), maybe a bit less destruction of industrie there. But i dont believe the final peace brokered would have been altered much. The teheran conference already happened at this point and it was there that the groundwork for europes division in peace time was laid... i again doubt a "valkyrie"-Government would have much say in proceedings.
Why is there no mention of the execution of General Erwin Rommel. How was he linked to the coup and what role did he play in it?
Thank you for not perpetuating the “good guy Rommel” myth, as is so often done when speaking of this topic.
I had no idea the plot was this dramatic, awesome video!
I never researched this topic other than watching the movie, and the cast was very well chosen, they seem like the real stauggenberg and other “mutineers”.
I do wonder what would’ve happened if they succeeded, would there have been no division of germany?
Germany would’ve still been defeated and divided
@@alextullett5766I also believe that.
Probably the same outcome without the additional deaths and destruction. The Allies unambiguously demanded unconditional surrender. Understandably they did not want another 1918 style 'armistice'.
It was a conspiracy of doomed men, they failed and were at their finest in those moments.
Hitler war machine was immediately sabotaged the moment fighting broke out in 1939.
Hitler Revolution - Richard Tedor
The more interesting question for history is why did it take men like these ten years to try and deal with Hitler and the Nazis and save Germany from such evil monsters? The Prussian aristocracy and the Wehrmacht always knew what Hitter and the Nazis were and what they were up to from the very beginning!
because these guy were still nazis, they had just realised that they had lost at this point
No, the stuff the nootzis were peddling was popular common views throughout the world, such as anti semitism. They also became very popular as economic conditions improved in the 30s
Hope you enjoy seeing white Europeans and their culture get replaced :)
what if it did, what if the guy who shot himself was a bodydouble used as a puppet?
Last time I was this early Poland was still allied with the USSR
When was Poland allied with USSR? Poland was invaded by USSR in 1939.
@@mixererunio1757 the non aggression pact signed in 1932
@@edsonpacheco8318 lmao what? That's not alliance. That's Poland trying to push back the possibility of an invasion because they were sandwiched between enemies with one murderous, expansionist, genocidal state (USSR) and from 1933 another. There was no alliance. Like the one between Gemany and USSR when they called it a non-aggression pact (even though they didn't share a border) and in eality they were dividing Europe among themselves, traded weapons, resourcers, prisoners, had similar lists of "undesirable" people they wanted to exterminate and NKVD and Gestapo had joint conferences. They also aided each other in battle and had a joint parade in Brest-Litovsk.
That's alliance.
Last time I was this early, Poland was deep in Napoleon’s pants
A non-agression pact is not an alliance.
I wonder if there is any good analysis of what if Hitler died, even more generally. I know the regime at lots of competition built in as a balance of power to protect Hitler. On that day I wonder who most likely could have also tried to gain authority, how many would have, and who had tge greatest likelihood. I assume one of the big party members or the miltary high command.
If only....
Wa happen to the ships broo where the ships broo
The most evil person in the world also happens to be the luckiest????
Your last point is very important. It was clear that there was zero chance of Germany winning the war, and indeed would be totally overrun within a year. But in that remaining 10 months the casualties were vast among the German military, the Soviet military, the Allied military, the German civilians, many of the occupied countries' civilians, Germany's integrity as a state, and especially among the victims of the holocaust.
The coup succeeding wouldn't have made the slightest difference to Germany's chances of winning, but it would have saved many millions of lifes.
I wonder what the numbers at 19:00 are comprised of. It suggests to me they address the numbers of soldiers or military-personnel lost. I wonder if that is indeed the case: How much higher would these numbers be if Holocaust victims and german civilians etc. were to be included.
From a very rough count I think there were over 10 million casualties across all sectors in the remaining 9 1/2 months of the war
thank you for this .what a god awful disaster
That terrible pronunciation of Witzleben hurts the ears and the brain. I almost want to turn it into a drinking game.
Why did they get romme killed?
Es lebe das heilige Deutschland!
The problem with this plot is that it may have reenforced Hitlers and his followers believe that he had divine protection and therefore doubting his leadership became blasphemy
Last video before 2025
Yeah that line about "atrocities" being part of the reason for the coup and not just them knowing the war was already lost is very iffy dude.
I think it was definitely a strong motivating factor for many of those involved. By no means all of them, but many. Pretty clear from the sources imo
@@historigraph Oh I understand how you could come to that conclusion from listening to Nazis (and this isn't an accusation against you personally) but they did those atrocities and were fine doing more, until they saw the war was lost. For me no matter what they say it's the consequences they fear not more war crimes happening.
@punksci6879 it is too easy to demonize your enemies. We often think ourselves better and that we wouldn't follow suit or sit quietly. History and psychology tells us that we are wrong in that thought.
@@historigraph Stauffenberg was a dedicated German supremacist who supported the war and enslaving other nations. Don't know about the others but Stauffenberg was a criminal who rebelled against his boss when he started losing.
@@punksci6879 Plenty of the plotters weren't Nazis at all (von Treskow for example). And many of them had been trying to kill Hitler for literal years.
May they rest in peace o7
Germans Army had a courageous army . But Courageous Ukrainian’s Army handed them their keister’s . 1st and 2nd Panzer Division run out energy and men . The 13th Panzer Division fought hard in Budapest . But like this video that got driven back
Bro met in ‘the wolves lair’ and still thought he was the good guy
Are we the baddies?
We fought the wrong side
Unfortunate that these traitors betrayed their nation
Cant Tom Cruise do anything right
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Just think if the plot had actually been successful