Patriots not trading down from No. 3 puts pressure on Drake Maye | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2024
- Given the Giants and Vikings reportedly offered the Patriots multiple first-round picks to move up to No. 3, Mike Florio and Chris Simms spell out why New England is making a big gamble on Drake Maye. #NBCSports #NFL #NewEnglandPatriots #DrakeMaye
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Patriots not trading down from No. 3 puts pressure on Drake Maye | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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I think there’s pressure on a #3 pick in the NFL draft no matter what. Especially being a QB
Chris wanted Maye to the giants, I could see it in his face when he reacted to New England picking him. Now he’s going to shit on him until he can’t anymore.
Mike Florio saying “don’t put so much pressure on the player!” By what? Sticking to your pick spot and taking him?
A team that makes a massive trade to get Maye would apply so much more pressure on him to perform
Florio salty that JJ is his QB
100%. He won't shut up about Kirko. And every rookie QB is going to fail unless he's under the golden touch KOC
Lmao sounds like your salty because everyone believes Maye has the biggest chance to bust cause he got drafted by your team 🤣
@@saraxiongshe’s back! The person who said the Boston media was saying 4-5 first round picks and couldn’t back it up with any sources!
WE VIKING SUPPORTERS ARE HAPPY ASF FOR JJ HES GONNA LIGHT UP THE LEAGUE WATCH AND LEARN HES THAT GUY.. SKOLLLL!!!💛💛💜💜🔥🔥🔥💯
Who is salty if you know jj has real game and a winner 💜💛🔥🔥🔥
Once again Simms is WRONG! If Maye is not good why would O'Connell and Dabol want him to the point where they were willing to give up multiple 1st round picks to get him
lol
😂
Any QB that goes for the Vikings is likely to succeed any Patriots QB is likely to struggle
Since 2012, half of the 1st round QB picked didn't receive a second contract from the team that drafted them.
A lot of guess and hope in drafting a QB.
Idiotic take. Him being drafted 3rd by anyone puts pressure. It's hysterical watching the Vikings so happy to get JJ when clearly they didn't prefer him
By your logic every team in the NFL except Chicago is not allowed to be happy with the draft because they didn't get Caleb Williams...
@@danielhogue6484???
@@seekeroftruth45 My point was only one team can truly have whoever they want, the other 31 teams get the leftovers. Saying a team can't be happy with their draft just because they didn't get their top choice is stupid.
lmfao listening to vikings fans - Florio included - twist themselves into knots to convince themselves that JJ was managements preferred pick over Maye all along is so funny.
keep going guys. you're totally making sense. this is going to end so well for you.
No one knows how this is gonna end including you and I. I definitely wanted Drake, but I also said I’d be good with JJ if they didn’t have to give up to much. Dudes a winner for sure.
What are you talking about? They never said they wanted JJ more than Maye they just said he wasn't worth what the Pats were asking for,
No one is trying to convince themselves JJ was preferred over Maye dude 😂 we know Maye was #1 and JJ was 2, it’s been said now. We’re happy with the 2 guys we got and keeping our first next year, and if you guys are happy with Maye then great, leave it at that and we’ll see how it plays out.
They wanted the Patriots to swap picks and the Patriots was getting the short end of the stick....AIR HEADS FLORIO AND SIMMS..
so a team didn't trade down and that puts pressure on him... but if the Pats DID trade down and a team traded up and gave several picks to get him, wouldn't that would also put pressure on him? .... maybe being taken high in the NFL Draft as a young QB is just a high pressure situation in general? maybe he'd be under pressure no matter what? don't understand why we gotta sensationalize and be all melodramatic like "ohhh now he's under pressure because a team drafted him!" as if that wasn't happening no matter what lol this is one of the most pointless conversations ever
Yes, Florio will go on a 15 minute rant about this the next time it happens
you told no lies
It boils down to the top 3 teams were expecting to get that stupid trade the panthers made for bryce young and teams werent gonna do that
Why have I never heard so much talk about a guy being ready? Everyone admits he has crazy talent, just needs some work, it's not like they would've been in the Super Bowl next year with Penix or someone older.
If a team traded up to get him, there would also be pressure on him. There's no situation here where you could say he has no pressure on him.
Seems pointless to say pressure is on him because the Pat's didn't trade down.
Florio is still mad that the pats didnt want to take that shitty offer by the vikings
So there’s more pressure because they didnt get fleeced instead?😂
Holy Moly let the salt flow Florio. Drake Maye and Patriots will be pieces of crap because the Vikes couldn't get Maye. Florio should worry about his own guy and stop pining for Kirko and Maye
Florio bitter that his queens didn't get Maye
They’re acting like Trey lance demanded way more draft capital to trade up for… 49ers dealt 3 1sts and the Vikings offered the Pats 3 firsts
There's so many conflicting reports on what the Giants offered to move up to 3, but more and more credible reporters are saying the Giants only offered 6 and next year's one. That's not equal value to move up for a franchise QB in my mind. That makes Schefters report/feeling that they were actually looking to move up to secure Joe Alt. Two ones is too low for a franchise QB, but for a potential perennial all pro franchise right tackle...that's closer in value to the number 6 overall pick and next year's 1.
The pressure argument is brain dead
The Vikings offered more than what the 49ers gave for their 3rd overall pick...guess Florio has never seen a trade chart before in his life 😂😂😂
Those 49ers frp were in the 30s
Maye has never been under the type of pressure he's going to be under. Because UNC is a basketball school not a football school and the ACC is not the SEC. It's okay for UNC to lose 5 or 6 games in a year. No one expects much more from them. But when your team is at a football university where football is king and losing even 2 or 3 games is a huge problem then that comes with an entirely different pressure on you. Putting up big stats there but losing 3 games isn't good enough. Same is true for a place like New England. Mac Jones led his team to the playoffs and everything was hunky dory. But as soon as the team got worse and didn't make the playoffs they turned on him. It didn't matter to the fans his team lacked talent, he's still supposed to win without it. Maye is walking into that situation and as soon as he starts throwing as many interceptions as touchdowns and the team is still losing the fans will turn on him as well. #3 pick and you aren't saving us? What a waste.
Couldn’t agree more
If pats only lose 5/6 games this year, I will be thrilled, nobody expects pats to go playoffs short term, give Maye a few years… Mac jones has opened the patriots fans eyes to what garbage looks like, it’s ok if we lose as we will , but maye is step in right direction with correct coaching ( that’s where I would worry, coaching )
it's a gamble and will be interesting to watch how all these quarterbacks develop.
To be fair to me having a 2 1’s in the same year sounds more valuable to me than a 1 two years out but obviously the template should’ve been the 49ers/miami deal 3 1’s and a 3rd then you go from there
What did Maye do to these guys? They talk about him way more than any of the other QBs lol Simms hates him. It almost sounds personal
Someone has to get to the bottom of Simms Drake Maye hate! There has to be something there lmao
There certainly has to be. He’s not even that wrong about his analysis of the player. What he’s flat out wrong about is where he’s ranking him and how inconsistent his ranking is when in prior years, QBs with just as much risk were ranked way higher for him. Hell, even the prospect evaluations this year are riddled with inconsistencies. It seems like only drake maye is getting the short end of the simms stick. It’s just getting sad…
Simms never mentions how bad of a situation North Carolina was last season. His #1 receiver didn’t play half the year. Offensive line was absolute shit and the offensive coordinator was horrible and he still went 6-4 or whatever. His situation was just like NE last year and he was fine
Why is nobody saying that the reason the offer wasn’t that great was because both teams weren’t blown away by Drake Maye.
Technically speaking the 49ers traded a 1st, 2nd and two 3rd round picks of value for trey lance. The Vikings offer from this year translates to two 1st and a 2nd. The 49ers gave up three 1st but they were for consecutive years making the overall future pick value less. Vikings trade offer was collectively more with more current picks duhhhhh
The Vikings offered three 1st round picks plus a 3rd rounder
Mike we got McCarthy now Let’s get behind him whether us fans wanted maye or not. They’re betting their careers on their pick. I trust them to get it right
If Minnesota added Justin Jefferson, Patriots wouldve accepted that trade instantly
He is under no pressure at all. As we know Boston fans are calm, level headed fans that can accept failure😂😂
So why is everybody (including these two clowns) saying that Drake Maye is not a good quarterback and yet two franchises offered multiple first round picks for him???
Everybody talking about New England should of traded down Maye was the one they wanted so that's who the drafted and after seeing the Vikings and Giants wanted him that's what made them sure he was the QB they wanted
There would be more pressure on Maye at the Vikings if they took that trade.
Omg a QB with pressure!
Patriots could've taken Vikes deal even with mid round pick swaps and had multiple 1st as well as trade again with someone who wants to move up and got even more draft capital for this year and next. Or could've traded back up from 11 and got a QB and still have extra draft capital. If bad this year you're right there for the best QB
Florio always angry hahaha
Drake will be the best!
"Maybe they should" Florio, the NFL know it all
The offers the Pats received just shows those teams were not serious about trading up. Doesn’t put any more pressure on Maye than the #3 pick would anyway
I think JJ is gonna be really good.
Didn’t WEEI report that their GM & Coach wanted the Giants offer to the 6 however the Krafts insisted on taking Drake Maye?
Vikings got the best qb in the draft and the pats missed out on a lot of talent
Zac Wilson was number 1 for Chris simms instead of Trevor Lawrence let that sink in. He is terrible at this.
Outside of that one, he has killed it over and over again. Had Herbert #2 over Tua at #5. Had CJ over Bryce, had Josh Allen #1. Nobody’s gonna be perfect but he’s right a lot more often than not
The Vikings wanted mid-rounders back, give me a break
This idea of sitting Maye is a joke - at least in New England. Mac was 15 in the draft and started as a rookie, so it is a no brainer that the expectation is that the 3rd pick in the draft will be starting for the Pats, especially given his only competition will be Brissette and possibly Zappe. I don't include Milton and I agree that Mayo and Wolf had their hands tied on the Maye selection. Think Milton could be the sleeper because he has Maye like skills, maybe better.
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😂 Milton was picked to be Zappes backup replacement fanboy.
But the Vikings still must have preferred Maye over JJ.
Can someone fix the buzz on his microphone please 👍🏽
I mean if you really wanted someone at 3 it wouldnt matter the ask. If you actually felt some type of way about a QB that is available at 3 you take the swing, trade the picks. I also think the Pats were dead set on drafting a QB.
Mid is from Marijuana slang Mr Florio
And if a team gives up 3 1sts to draft him, won't that put pressure on him?? lol
This salt is just because NY remais with Daniel jones as QB1 and Rodgers may retire after this season. Let's see next year who they'll try to bring down the draft board trying to rescue the NY market.
The Viking proposal would have been the one to take and the Pats still could have has McCarthy at 11. Bad move
I can't wait till big Drake makes you guys eat your words..
Zero pressure he can't be worse than Mac Jones zero playoff wins.
Honestly 3 or 23 any QB until the END OF TIME will be under the shadow of the GOAT so this is irrelevant the next 5 QBs after McCarthy will be under the same scrutiny. That’s just what Brady’s Legacy comes with you will be measured on CLUTCH GENE & SB WINS. Fair or not that’s the reality.
Those were not good enough offers for the #3
Lol these guys, ya have a team trade 3 first round picks and more to draft drake maye , yea sounds like less pressure to me , they make zero sense as usual
These guys don't even know what the hell they're talking about.
Mid came from mid round draft pic … lol Mike ain’t smoked since 73
Definition of a space-filler video...here it is.
Florio salty for no reason. Just a typical sad sorry Vikings fan. Simms wrong you’re not the qb guru ppl thought you were when you were so high on Zach Wilson
The Patriots blew it. What the Patriots could have had with a Vikings trade is ... National championship winner JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner PLUS and an extra 1st round pick next year ( likely 2 of the top 10 picks )...BUT... what they got is ... Developmental project, Drake May throwing to...who?.🤮
“So you’re going to go from a grade from last year”? Ok simms, then fairly weigh the fact that he had a new offensive system, coaching staff, and way less talent. Simms is absolutely insufferable when talking about maye. He isn’t even wrong about him needing to develop, what he’s wrong about is how inconsistent he is when criticizing maye compared to other prospects in the draft or other prospects he’s absolutely adored. It’s just getting tired…
New England fans will not accept all those excuses. That's just the way it is.
What do you mean not accept the excuses? I’m a NE fan and I think im being pretty fair. Simms isn’t wrong in his analysis, but he certainly is inconsistent with his ranking of maye compared to others with similar development that’s needed…
Obviously Vikings didn’t want Drake Maye that bad.
Yet they offered more than what the 49ers gave up for their 3rd overall pick...you want me to send you a link to a trade chart...you must have lost yours 😂
or they are cheap and thought the pats are dumb
They might have had him if they didn’t try to add in all those pick swaps in their favor on the back end.
@@polandfresh101nah it not because of a mid rounder. They might have to give a couple of day 2 picks
@@davidarusso599 lmao sorry but we were never gonna pay your ridiculous price!
no pressure, stop making something out of nothing. Love your content, but dont do this one.
yea, it's pretty obvious Jacobe will start as long as we need him too, there's no real expectation for the playoffs, its a rebuild, not some quick fix.
Pats didn't trade down = pressure
if a team traded up for Maye that also = pressure
just being in the NFL in general = pressure
this is such a lame attempt at manufacturing a headline
It is pressure when ever u pick a QB in the top 10. Let’s be real
Patriots made a good mistake and Minnesota still got one of the top QBs
A still would have took the vikings offer
Drake Maye was gonna be a bust anyway.
Very overrated QB class. I bet only 1 of these guys is still starting after 5 years
Doubt it. This class is the best QB class in awhile. I bet at least 3 of them pan out as decent starters. What’s your meaning of successful?
Michael Penix gonna start in his first game in 5 years from now! 🤣
@@ajgreen868 success is subjective. Kirk Cousins could be considered successful on the Vikings but if McCarthy does what he did I think he would be considered a disappointment