Tusk 2Track 1k Mile Review
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2024
- Okay, here it is... the @manybikes 1k Mile Review and "first thoughts" of the NEW Tusk 2Track Adventure Tires from @rmatvmc For just $210 you can have a set of these in the 90/90-21 and 150/70-18... That is the "best price" I have seen from a set of ADV tires. Test with me! Click the links below, get them mounted and let's compare notes!
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Happy Sunday! Who's here watching this AM? What are you riding? And... do these tires interest you?
Watching as I gear up for my ride! I bought the new Mitas from you for the front of my 89 XL600V Transalp. I can’t wait to finally try it out!
@@4N2IN0JA Sweet! Have a great ride!
Once the rear drops in 17 I'll mount it on my Tiger 800 xc. Thanks, Kyle for the video!
@@LBRides yes Sir! More to come... thanks for watching
Yes these tires definitely intrest me but the rear isn't available for a klr yet
Thanks for the review I can't wait to see how they hold up over time. So cool to see Tusk getting into the ADV Market!
Yes, it's great to see a value priced tire for them over priced 500 lb dirt bikes ;)
Many thanks! You pushed me over the edge to order a set for an upcoming SM500 trip.
Great to hear! Have a super trip!
My feelings exactly. Mounted on an 1190R. I have about 400 miles now including winding roads in the Santa Cruz mountains where they did great and this afternoon I just finished Jocelin Snow's two day advanced adventure bike training in Salinas. We had heavy rain for the freeway ride to class Saturday morning and partial rain throughout the day. The tires handled mud and damp grass great on the trail rides no problem. When the obstacle course dried up they did wonderfully on rocky areas, large wood structures, tractor tire props, gravel pit, wood sawhorse, over cars, etc. Could not be happier, what a bargain. Highly recommend Jocelin's class by the way, what an amazing person and her co-instructors were excellent as well. I ran the tires on and off-road at standard street pressure (36F, 42R) with no issues. I was given the opportunity to air down but wanted to see how it felt at full pressure.
Oh man! That's my old stomping grounds! Jocelin is a sweetheart. Go ride Buzzard Lagoon Road, its a nice slice of heaven!
I also have an 1190 ADV R. The front 90/90 21" is rated for only 467 lbs. Is this a concern? Thank You in advance!
@@justmyself1000 I hear that some Tusk 2Tack tires are being recalled, I don't know if mine are affected yet. I would hold off on purchasing these tires until the issue is resolved. I wasn't aware of the load rating being an issue I will look into that, thank you.
@@manybikes Will do thanks!
Another great review. Thank you!
Great 1k mile review. You had some great observations about the tire that I hadn't noticed. The hardness of the tire and jarring feeling was described really well. I hadn't noticed that. Next time I am out on the bike I will see if I can feel it. I am rolling up on 5k now and there is a lot of tread left. For the money, its hard to beat this tire.
Thanks! 👍 for your feedback Matt. For the value it is a fantastic tire, that is for sure! Let's plan our Full Detailed Review here when you get close to wearing them out. Thanks for your help with this little project ;)
That would be great awesome test Kyle, thanks for sharing
Yeah, right?!
Great information Kyle! You are the Master of tire reviews! Thanks as always!
Cheers!
I've got a more in depth in seat review coming. Just had to get these reoccurring questions answered....
Great tire vid as always man 👍
Thanks 👍 Glad you enjoyed it.
Top quality content as usual. Thanks for doing these reviews. You are consistent go to.
I appreciate your kind words. It is a labor of love... What are your thoughts on this tire?
@@manybikes Every dollar counts these days. I think they look like a decent option forsure. I want to order a set up, however there are no rears available in Canada at the moment.
Thanks for the update Kyle! With Matts 4500 on the rear, they still look great! Can't wait to try them! Cheers!
For sure! Thanks for watching!!
Thanks Kyle.
Yes sir! Thank you for watching! Would you run them? Or would you go another route? If another route... what would it be?
I want a set for my 2022 GSA. They said they would have those sizes soon. Can't wait !!!! Great video !!!! 🙂
That would be cool! I have been told they are coming... just don't know when.
Have loved my set. Two notes, I prefer offroad pressures around 20 and they did SOO much better when I dropped the pressure but road performance wasn’t as good. The other note is to make sure to scrub them in as I laid my bike down in the first 50 miles on road due to slickness of the rubber. Not just a wives tale. (Experience is on a T7)
Dude! Sorry to hear about the lay down!!! Are you ok? Yes, these tires are hard and slippery until scrubbed in... that is a real thing! Low pressures will help off road, but a tubeless guy will not want to break a bead for the fear of not being able to get it to reseat!!! Thanks for sharing your feedback!
@@manybikes very very true. You’re the man! I’m all healed up and riding again. Thanks for asking
@@bjwilliams6115 awesome to hear! Thanks for your support, I appreciate it.
Thanks Kyle, great info as usual. I usually mount my tires on the floor of my garage with just irons so I probably won't get these for that and the weight. Probably 80% on road for me. I haven't decided yet form my new Transalp
Good call! Mounting these on the garage floor would be TOUGH! If you do... I want to watch ;)
Nice review, I have to start putting some miles on my 2Track. Next on my list to try are the MotoZ Rallz Rear and maybe a Dualventure Front. 🍻
Good choice! I'd recommend the RallZ rear and Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ up front. Wicked combo!!!
Thanks for the review. These aren't available here in Australia yet but I've heard they are coming soon. Based on the firmness and rolling weight of these tires I think I'll be driving with my Karoo 4s so far on my 390 adventure, especially being on the light side bike and tire wise. So far 7000 km and the tire still has a little over 50% tread left
Good news on the Karoo 4. My 1190 ate them up at 4k miles. The 390 would last many thousand more miles for sure. I personally would not run these on anything smaller than a 650 due to their weight.
Gee the karoo4s wire out that quick. It must be a lot more brutal than my mates 1250gsa that got just over 10,000km/6000miles out of a rear karoo4.
Honestly once these karoo4s are work eventually on the 390 I haven't got a clue what you're I should try next, but I have at a guess another 7000km of riding to think about it
The front lug wear pattern developing sounds like the issue I had with the AX41's I ran before. 1st half of life not too bad to live with, 2nd half of life I did not like noise and slight vibration that developed from the weird/uneven wear of every other row. I switched to a Karoo 4 front which wears evenly and performs great on and off road. These kind of stiff heavy tires as the Tusk do not match my typically 90% on road riding so I'll pass on even trying these. Thanks for another informative review that really helps to steer us towards the right tire choices based on each individual's needs!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Excellent feedback Kyle. Just to add to your on-road review of these tires in rain, my findings are as follows. I suffered no hydroplaning at triple digit speeds during heavy downpour, the lateral give or slippage in the turns is fairly minimal and bike will generally correct itself with enough forward bite to offset the lateral slippage. The only weary road section during rain to be cautious of is riding on or passing over the painted lines when wet. The tire seems to give up a little traction when crossing the painted lines during rain but nothing that makes it sketchy, merely just a wiggle here and there and a heads up for your viewers.
Yes, overall it does really well. I did however find it slippery in freezing temps.
What's up? Who's watching this morning? What are you riding and what tires are you running? Are you interested in running these 2Track tires?
Rabaconda for the win!
Good luck!
Thanks for your HONEST review of these tires. Much better than Ian/big rock moto
Thanks for watching. Ian is a great guy, we ride together several times a year. Unless you have the opportunity of doing back to back testing, and recording at the time "how it felt and how they acted" it is really hard to "remember the feeling" that a specific gave you. Unless of course there was a memorable incident caused them to stick out in your mind. What do you ride and what tires are your favorite?
I cant afford to watch your channel!! Now I have to go get these darn tires!!! I really like the fact that you tried those on a heavy and powerfully bike like the 1190… I bet they’re gonna last a little bit more than the expensive Anakee wilds…
Thanks for watching! They are for sure robust and will be long lasting. The tires now have over 5k miles on them and they look great. For sure they will outlast a set of Anakee Wild tires. Not as "soft and floaty" as the wilds are on pavement... but they are good.
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I’ve got 1500 on my set. I like them so much I bought another set when they came back into stock. Are they the best tire ever made? Absolutely not. But they are a very good tire and then factor in that they’re $210 for a set and it’s a win for me. I previously have run sets of MotoZ Adventure, Mitas e-09, e-09+, Anakee Wilds, and the stock TKC80 on my 1090. I feel like these are just as good as any of these offroad and almost as good as all of them on the street. They work for me.
Love your comment! I totally agree that they are not the "best tire" but they are a "really good set of tires" for the riding that many people will do. They handle the highway at full triple digit speeds just fine and they are amazing in the dirt. I think that rock crawling our baby head trails would not be fun. I did not like them at all on wet roads in 35 degree weather but wet at 60 degrees was just fine. Dry pavement corner railing was good too... Overall, a great tire for the masses. It is not a high performance street tire like the AX41, that's for sure... But they are good.
I am going to put one on the rear of my Norden next, Front is too important for me so I will stay with the Motoz DV for front tire. Rear looks good, extremely cheap and looks like with be tuff. I will give up some performance for longevity and being robust. Feels stiff enough I can probably make it back to camp even with a flat. Who knows.
Right on! It is knobby and works GREAT in the dirt. On the pavement ai can always "dial it back" if it starts to get sketchy. In the dirt however... you can't "find extra knobs and traction" if you need more!
Hoping to try them, they need to release a 140 or 130 size though!
Yes, they sure do! Check out the new Waypoint tire for the 130! www.rockymountainatvmc.com/tires-and-wheels/tusk-waypoint-adventure-tire-p?ref=1068
How would you compare them to the Rall Z to the 2 track? is the rallz worth the extra money?
Im waiting for restock on the rear i just got the front in mail yesterday
Good deal. Please let me know what you think!
Kyle I have a Suzuki 800de with a MOTOZ Duel Venture tire on the front, and a Anakee Adventure rear. I have seen many videos in which lots of people complain about sevier wobble on the freeway at higher speeds. This includes a motorcycle sells person for a very Large San Diego FBC salesman who stated that his KTM 890 wobbles severely at 80 mph. While I haven't experienced any wobble at even at 95mph. I'm running 32psi could that be a factor? PS I like your videos. especially the one on White Rim Trail ( Hopefully Next Year for me ) However Slip Rock is too scary for this Newbe! Thanks for all that you do!
The White Rim Trail is AMAZING and so is your 800DE. Had one for 6 weeks and it was fantastic. The Dual Venture was developed as a "fix" to the Motoz front wheel wiggle. I've run 7 of them, a mix of tubeless and tube type over 5 different bike... zero wobble all the way up past 155mph. I think it has a lot to do with suspension and bike geometry. KTM users have experienced this more than anyone else I have talked with.... 3 of my bikes are KTM's and they don't have issue either. Go figure. Motoz tires are great, not much compares off road.
I just did a 3200 mile trip on these tires (Tuareg 660) - for a reference point, the rear tread depth (putting a straight edge across two lugs and measure deepest point) is now 0.475". My fuel economy dropped 10% in general and 15% at 70mph. When I first tried the tires, the front felt really sketchy - another reviewer suggested I bump front pressure up to 35psi and that helped on street cornering, but, as you mentioned, made these tires very rough. I'll be putting on something a bit more road biased next - in my next life, I'll be able to rip the trails like you😆
+1 for the Tuareg 660. THE best bike out there.
I'm new to ADV biking and got a new KLR650 - put on this tire on the front then went to Moab - and have to agree it was so sketchy and twitchy. I started at 21psi and tried various pressures 15-28 or so (but never as high as 35). It was decent in the dirt but scary on the pavement and gravel roads. On pavement I felt like I couldn't turn the wheel or lean too much or it would "grab" and jerk the steering. I have a big Tusk Dsport on the rear perhaps that has some effect as well? at any rate maybe that's not the right tire for me and need something more road biased like you say - but I'll give it a go at 35psi and see how that works.
Love this comment and feedback @roadrider1100 Yes, mileage did suffer, overall acceleration on the highway suffered and they are "rough" unless aired down, but then they were wiggly. LOVE YOUR BIKE! I think I need one :)
For sure +1 on the Tuareg 660!
@coBandy69 I'd love to learn your long term feed back after trying higher pressure. I rean 36 on the highway and that made it stable but man the ride was rough.
The rear in 18” is out of stock everywhere. Been waiting for a long time. The front tires in 21” are readily available. Don’t understand why more aren’t available. They’re missing out on a lot of sales.
Yeah, it's a bummer. Stock is on the way!!!!
Hey boss.
Been binge-watching your tire reviews as I need to change the rear out.
I am new to adventure riding and have a F800GS.
I would be riding my bike mostly in the forests and dealing with sandy and muddy terrain pretty often - this would direct me to buying Motoz Rallz.
I also want to use my bike to commute to work (5 miles ride tho) and once a week ride 2-up with my girlfriend - this would direct me to buying Motoz Adventure.
BUT, I want to do a ~1500 mile road trip this summer aswell, riding 2-up with gear - this would direct me to buying Motoz GPS.
Will Motoz GPS serve me good enough, as besides the road trip its going to be 70/30 off-road/on-road riding.
Thanks for your inquiry. RallZ hands down all day long! I ride daily 45 miles each way to the office.. 1.5 hours to the nearest trails on the weekend. It's the best traction that still performs well on the street and it gets on average 5k to 7k miles. The Adv will get 6k to 10k but it's not as great off road BUt they are similar on-road.
Thanks for the review!
I'm wondering how they stack up against the Motoz Dual Venture and Rallz. We're getting ready for a summer TAT round trip ride of 8-10K miles with a tire change halfway.
The TAT is a Dream of mine! Have fun!!! Off road and longevity they stack up well. Grip in the cold, ease of mount the Motoz is better.
I hope you get to do it someday! I'm going on my T7 with my two best riding buddies, one of whom I've been riding with for over 50 years.
My current plan is to start the trip with Dual Venture on the front and a 2Track on the rear. I was planning on reversing the DV when necessary and hoping to do the whole trip on it. Now that we've added extensions into Canada and the UP of Michigan, I don't think there is a chance of the DV making it.
With the funny wear patterns you and others have encountered on the 2Track fronts, I think I should just go with the DV again. What do you think?
@@HollybrookT7 SO FREAKING SWEET!!! Congrats! On the T7 I'd run the Tube Type Dual Venture and I'd flip it at 2k miles. That or the new Mitas XT+, that tire is fantastic off road. I have gotten over 10k on the Tube Type DV on my 1190... it's doable but you definitely have to flip it when it starts to show wear.
@@manybikes After seeing some of the comments here about the 2Track's not so great cold weather and baby head performance, I am thinking I'll just save the rear for summer use after the TAT. Getting to the passes in CO with worn tires that are not optimum in the first place doesn't sound good to me.
I have a new Motoz Rallz that I could use, but am wondering if it can make it 6,000 miles to Boise, where I will be mounting new tires. Or should I get a Motoz Adventure that should go the distance but not have as good cold weather performance. What do you think?
Kyle, it's time to get a 1290 to compensate for the tire weight! - Frank
Well... there's always that option ;)
Do you think you could safely run the pressures down to, for instance, 25 front, 22-24 rear (for all conditions, Tenere)?
Yes, I do think you could run that low safely with a tube, like the Tenere has.
@manybikes 1rst company to manufacture a lightweight rim lock for the wide rim, adv market wins. Hopefully, it's Motion Pro or Tusk, so they're reasonably priced!
Matt has not said that they have a plastic, or solid feel. I wonder if that's only for the first 1K? A "break in" period? - Frank
I'd imagine it's for the duration. We will see! Thanks for watching!
@@manybikes I haven't experienced that feel with these tires, but I am used to very hard Heidenau tires. I kept the front tire around 28 psi and the rear around 32 psi because these tires are so stiff. It seemed to be a good compromise between offroad and on road. I don't think I have the same feel for tires that Kyle has.
I like that you filmed other people riding the same tire, and different tires on the same terrain.
I have a set in the garage but im not looking forward to mounting due to how stiff they are and i only use tire irons on the ground.
Thanks for watching! Man... it was one of the toughest tire installations I have ever performed. There are youtube videos showing guys wrestling with this set... I'll upload mine in time... but I am not looking forward to the PTSD of that night in the garage ;) Overall, they are pretty good tires. I would not want to have to do a trail side repair on them though, that is for sure! Once you ride them, please circle back and let me know how they feel and work to you!
@manybikes 1k mile update of about 70/20/10 pavement/gravel/trails and I have been pleased with them for the price. They seem great off road an hook real good in dirt. Definitely less spinning in gravel. On road is pretty good except they seem to want to step out when I yank the throttle on real tight leaned over corners(don't really need to be doing that anyways but it was pretty consistent) faster wider corners with smooth throttle input seemed fine and stable. They wear at 1k looks like they'll last about 3k-3500 miles which is less than I'd hoped but I do have a heavy wrist.
@@jacbosmitt nice!
I got the front tire for my t7. but i have a motoz rallz rear tire. What kind of air pressure do you run? I hear that the front tire feels kind of slow turning in if you run low pressure ( like around 20 lbs) and doesn't have great traction?
I run 30ish most places. Unless fully loaded. Then I go sidewall max pressure.
Have you seen TERAFLEX 140/80-18 M105? Found them in a random post, I know nothing about them other than their tread looks super aggressive. If you're ever looking for a new video I'd love to see something on that tire. Seems like a perfect alternative to the motoz I/T for big bore bikes.
I've seen the TERAFLEX only
In the wild....
@@manybikes one or two guy on the advrider forum called them terror-flex's 🤣.
Love it!
So a perfect set would be Motoz dual venture in the front and the Tusk 2 track in the rear.
That could be a wining combo in warm weather with soft terrain. I did not like the rear in wet weather below 4o degrees (34 degrees in the snow was sketchy) nor would I like to ride them on trails of baby heads as it would be rough! Aired down enough to be effective, I would only want to do that while running a tube. Tubeless I'd be afraid to break a bead and not get it re-seated. The fix is adding a tube... which I would NOT want to do trail side with these monsters!!! Overall, it's a great set of tires though!
@@manybikes tks man for your hard work. The tire guru. 😂
@@FrancoisTX1974 yes Sir! My pleasure.
Sir , I have a DR650 , want to replace my stock tires To MT21/D606 but with the wider versions, 90/90-21 front & 130/90-17 rears . That’s wider front & back . Is that a good Idea ?
Those sizes will work great on your bike.
Yoooo!
Been meaning to reach out.
Got a nail in my brand new Motoz and now throwing on my 2 track tomorrow.
You still like it or Motoz or Mitas for mid size ADV?
I’ve got a Norden 901 expedition.
Thanks for your content and help.
🏍️💨
Throw a plug in that Motoz! These 2Track Tires are good for what they are, but they are not quality wise a replacement for Motoz or Mitas.
@@manybikes yeah thanks I guess I should do just that. Wouldn’t be bad to practice with my tire repair kit anyway.
Once again I appreciate what ya do and your help.
Ride safe! 🏍️💨
Wish they would make these inexpensive tires to fit my inexpensive KLR.
They are in the works! Don't have a date, but it will be this year. I have some Hitman 55 tires for you. Similar to Shinko ... Have a look: manybikes.company.site/products/Vee-Moto-Tires-c159476405
Oh Kyle! I had my mind made up,and now I don't know! That is cheap! I'm getting closer to new tires. What do you think of the Tusk rear,and dual vunture front? Only since you weren't so sure about the wear on the front.
Thanks for watching! The front is not reversible... so once it begins to wear (like it already is) ... it will go quick, at least that is how it works on most. I'll need to check with Matt to see how it is wearing on his T7. The DV front would be good... the rear, It is knobby and works GREAT in the dirt. On the pavement ai can always "dial it back" if it starts to get sketchy. In the dirt however... you can't "find extra knobs and traction" if you need more!
@@manybikes Cool I'll be watching for that. I was talking a Tusk rear and Motoz front to combat some of the cost. I guess you couldn't go wrong with any of the better tires,and it wouldn't be forever.
What is ETA for 17" (DE800)
Still up in the air...
Not one bit of comparison to the Motoz Tractionator Adventure, the closest analog to this tire?
Yes, I have a full comparo video vs. the Motoz Tractionator Adventure coming. In short, they are very similar off road. On-road the Motoz is smoother and soaks up road imperfections better. In cold weather the 2Track breaks looks first, but if dialed back both are very similar feeling. Stay tuned... This was a 2Track video not a Motoz ;) I dig your enthusiasm though! Coming right up!!!
Thanks Kyle! Appreciate and really enjoy your work.
@@ADVRaiderKTM My pleasure! Thank you for watching!!!
Klr650 size please RMATV
Check out the WayPoint tire. I think you will like that a lot on your KLR!!!
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/tires-and-wheels/tusk-waypoint-adventure%E2%84%A2-tire-p?ref=1068&
Disagree on one point, hard tyres like the K60 give the most punctures in my experience.
Hummmm... give the most punctures or have the most puncture resistance? It really is 2 fold. If the hard tire is hard due to increased ply material and has quality rubber (read TrailMax Mission) but if the hardness is due to super thick ply's that feel like plastic, that is a completely different situation. Scratches from rocks and pokes from sticks are different too.
Mounting the front with the Rabaconda was a shit show. They didn't seal well, the side wall is so stiff it didn't roll into the bead. I am curious if they work in the cold. With so much Nylon, I wonder if they get on temp.
Full video coming soon... with my $hit show Rabaconda mounting... and bad results in cold wet weather. For guys who don't ride in those conditions... it's a good option.
How is the on road handling and cornering compared to say the motoz rallz?
Great question. The Rallz is the winner... In warm weather (above 50 degrees) they are similar but below 40 degrees the 2Track wants to step out any time heavy throttle is applied coming out of corners. That does not happen on the RallZ unless there is water or snow on the ground. The Rallz soaks up road imperfections much better than the 2Track and the rubber on the RallZ feels "stickier" when hot.
@@manybikes I'm assuming the same case or similar would apply to the motoz adventure.
@@eric.colson the Motoz RallZ is a bit better in the cold than the Adventure as the rubber is a touch softer (grippier) and it has more silica.
@@manybikes Good to know. Really appreciate your expertise and field testing. Sounds like motoz is still king but the tusk is a no brainer when on a budget. Some friends and I are planning on trying the tusk rear with the motoz dual venture front.
@@eric.colson that is the truth. Motoz is still the KING. Tusk is close with mileage, bit the overall performance isn't quite there "everywhere"
I was hoping you wouldn’t even mention your manicure and just left everyone wondering WTF haha.
Ha! Ha! Ha! I wore them for a week...
Good luck with a trailside flat tyre repair.....
For sure!!! It was rough!!!
It would be nice to see RUclips reviewers start being honest instead of caring what the sponsor feels about your words. If that were the case then everyone would be telling potential buyers that the trail max mission is simply a street tire. It's marketed as a adventure tire, but it's a street only tire. You quite literally get the same performance out of those tires as you would any street tire. They're garbage the moment you leave the pavement.
I found the opposite. I didn't like them on the street too much and for me they were good in the dirt. I'm spoke what I didn't like about them. The Mission is not a real 50/50 tire and I have openly claimed that too... I've explained what the mission does well and what it doesn't. I personally think it's a compromise all the way around.
I can attest to this on the trail max
Its disgusting how some people just hate when you lane split and go out of their way to block you! Most people are great but some are just miserable human beings . Those people need to smarten up! If you dont want to sit in traffic , get a f'n motorcycle!
Tis true... Today I got merged into / cut off while in my own lane and the passenger of the car was flipping me off. Go figure...
Please lower the volume of the helmet cam clips in your videos. They are so much louder than the rest of the video, and badly distorted. It makes me not want to watch, even though I enjoy the content.
Thanks for your feedbak. On my machine (with headphones) the volume across the board sounds equal. I will focus on this issue you are having and will correct it. Thank you very much for pointing it out.
@rabaconda for the win 😅
Awesome, thank you for your support. Entered to win! Good luck!