I think that Scout’s Warning would be perfect for this deck. People often won’t attack then Darion is out. Flash him out when attackers has been declared. Get your soldiers.
Passing with 7+ mana up in a mono W deck is mad suspicious, though. No one will just attack you like you’re not sitting on a Settle the Wreckage or something. Too cute imo
I have a Darien deck and my favorite card for this deck is Jade Monolith. One generic mana, redirect damage from one creature to myself at instant speed and I can do that on my enemies' creatures and at instant speed. What's better than building my board during my turn? BUILDING IT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S TURN. Also, it's super political too.
Regarding the Cathars' Crusade, what you want to do is put all your creatures in one area, with one+1/+1 counter above that area. When the next batch of creatures come in, add a counter to the first area, put the second batch in a different area, and put a single +1/+1 counter on the new area. And so on for the third, fourth, and fifth. Suck it, Moses.
Fire and brimstone is secretly great in this deck. The floor is 4 damage to you and 4 damage to an opponent you make 4 1/1s. Ceiling is 8 damage to yourself you gain 8/16/24 life create 8 1/1s. Seems solid for 3ww at Instant speed.
To count cathars, just make groups of tokens. Put one dice over them that indicates the +1/+1. So a 1 die above like 10 tokens means all of them have a +1/+1.
Exactly! It's really good, but WAY too inconvenient to play IMO. In a casual setting I happily lose some win% cutting it in favor of more fluent gameplay
I am now convinced your group's meta is way different than mine. Some of the cards you cut like Blood of the Martyr, are all stars in the deck. At least with my group. Our decks are very similar. I opted for Aetherflux Reservoir and Test of Endurance for wincons. Storm Herd is also in mine for a wincon. I wish I could afford a Mana Crypt for mine. I went opposite with lands. I kept pain lands but more plains so Emeria triggers. I have also taken the Dingus Staff/Ashnod's Altar combo out because I had Dingus Staff backfire way too many times. It's a neat trick, but just a trick.
Hold on a second! Darien is my favorite edh deck. I have it as a soldier tribal (what a surprise, I know) and only now after couple of years I'm finding out he's soldier himself? I have original copy from Coldsnap which says Human Lord and not Human Soldier. I feel kind of stupid right now 😀 I was always thinking how cool it would be if he was soldier as well... Wells this information improved my deck without making any changes to it. Thank you 😀
Darien is my favorite commander and I'll shout it from the rooftops every time. Question though. I'm seeing fetchlands in this deck... Am I missing what they're for? Paying life does not equal taking damage so they don't trigger Darien.
Hey! I run them as they provide lots of incremental value. Field triggers, I can use weathered wayfarer in response to cracking them to get below the required landcount, they are ramp with brought back, sevinnes reclamation etc etc. Oh, and they shuffle my library after scrollrack, but the nerds cut that card. Fetches still are dope though
I preferred when the supporter names were ordered by name. It was easier to anticipate when my name would fly by. Is that a little vain? Yes. But sometimes it's the small things in life, amiright?
Hey guys, I was wondering why you wouldn't add in a By Invitation Only in the board wipe slot, as i feel like it would be good considering the amount of creatures you have.
Haven't looked at the deck yet, but I literally just built Darien! Does it have a good number of anthems? I actually cut skullclamp(sad face!) cause my tokens we're always 2/2 or better when I drew it.
I do have some, but not many. More of a late game thing a la elesh norn. Skullclamp is absolutely insane in (my version of) the deck. I run phyrexian altar as well as ramp/combo piece, so I got some reach even if my soldiers are buffed
With how many board wipes exile or sac, I think spirit losses to Guardian. Especially when your playing a 6 mana commander in a white deck. It also dodges mass bounce. 1 extra mana is worth the added insurance AND the fact that it has flash.
Love this content! I am always tweaking my EDH decks. (I have a LOT of them. 😂) Fresh eyes on one of my faves would be fun! Edit: Cats always make videos better!
I'm 100% adding the veteran, but I dont think I'll cut the ascendant for it. Personal attachment to the card, I just like making people sweat dropping it T1
I play mainly mono white. I prefer Spirit Guardians over Selfless Spirit. The amount of board wipes now that exile or sacrifice is surprisingly high. The Phasing out and instant speed of Spirit Guardians is often better than the very telegraphed Selfless Spirit.
Cyclonic Rift... that is all. If there's a sure thing in Commander... It's that the blue player WILL have cyclonic rift. Also Teferi's Protection is a one-off, Spirit Guardian isn't.
Hey guys! So, I have a question; I really want you guys to do a tune up for one of my decks, but I cant afford more than one month of the Patreon fee for this tier. Can I just do one month and still get the perks, or do I have to remain a Patron for multiple months to be considered? Love the content, keep up the good work!
I don't think Blasting Station can combo with just Darien and a Soul sister. Aren't you sacrificing the same token you just created to activate blasting station over and over?
Hey guys. Been subbed for a while! You are my number one channel for EDH info! It's fun to watch how each video you are getting better and better. Would love to see you guys do a Commander game on youtube! It would be great!
They are in fact currently working on it! They did a Kickstarter to finance the equipment. That's why I got this tune-up, was part of the supporter tier
I didn't play it bcs its worse than the ones I run already. And with all the creature tutors already increasing consistency I'd rather added other cards
For Cathar’s Crusade. I just put 1 spin down on the card and look at the dice to tell my opponent how many counters are on the board. Suck it Moses. And if you haven’t played harmonious archon with the crusade on the battlefield, get your 2nd spin down ready
My original build had that! In the end I ended up cutting it as I wanted to try out other stuff, the list is more or less in constant flux. There are SO MANY cool cards for darien, but sadly only 100 deckslots. I keep it in mind though, probably adding it again eventually, such a cool interaction
I made a huge mistake when I built mine. I just sort of assumed people would be attacking me. I only put 2 ways to deal damage to myself in the deck. Bad choice.
Joe: First we have to read the card... *Cue in educational jingle: Reading the card explains the card. -LOL I like the deck but I find it funny that your mana base is crazy for Field of the Dead to activate makes me wonder if the deck would be stronger with just plains? -I know it is a bad card but I've always liked this silly card, Personal Incarnation, would it's death trigger ''Lose half your life'' work with Darien? -Was Nomads Assembly considered? :P
i play field in every deck out of principle ^^ i just love the card, and im gonna make it work. with the words of dark confidant: greatness, at any cost! personal incarnation sadly wouldnt work, life loss isnt damage, but all damage makes you lose life :) never considered nomads assembly, but it feels kinda winmore to me. i could talk about that deck the whole day, its my baby :D if you want to enjoy my ramblings more, join the discord ;)
Unm why in the world would you not include Luminarch Ascension or jade Monolith or much protection Darian? I mean to be able to stick on the board he needs hexproof/shroud/indestructible to even have a chance of sticking on the board and the deck does nothing without him. Just been playing Darian for a very long time and although I have 40+ decks, Darian is my favorite. I have spent 16 mana before just to recast Darian so yeah... he draws TONS of hate.
Luminarch Ascension is awesome in the deck because if they hit you so it doesn't activate... then great! You get a bunch of soldiers... if they don't hit you then great! .. You overwhelme the board with angels! As far as jade Monolith it is awesome!... it will get you so many soldiers out of nowhere and will let you get chip damage in wherever you want (once the opponents realize if they block, you will get more soldiers).
@@nickleewright both cards are really good for the deck for sure! sadly i only have 100 deckslots, and i just prefer other cards, even if they might be less powerful :) i have a 100+ maybe pile and keep swapping things out occasionally to keep things fresh
Would love to hear how the Nitpicking Nerds would upgrade my 5 color (Kaladesh-)Energy themed deck (Kenrith Commander) sadly cant patreonize atm. Love ur videos dudes
I play a Darien deck, and when I wanna keep track of Cathars Crusade I just put the amount of counters I’ve added onto the Cathar card. and I add it to each creature when I atttack
Doesn't work, because I don't play 1 swatch of simultaneously entering creatures. They pile up over time, requiring their own track keeping. Still not sucking it!
I use darien as 99 in my heliod deck, cuz then i give a lose/lose choice to my opponents: let me get infinite life, or give me million of tokens hahaha
@@ThorMan91587 My cat was extremely well trained. Came when I called him. Would lay down on command. Lead us around the Frisbee Golf course (actually knew the course and walked in front of us). Pooped outside (I didn't have a litter box). Would tap on the window of the room I was in to let me know he wanted to come back inside. Cats are brilliant. Thinking they can't be trained is a ridiculous myth.
Thanks!
DAAANG, thanks Moesis!
@@NitpickingNerds you absolutely nailed it!
I think that Scout’s Warning would be perfect for this deck. People often won’t attack then Darion is out. Flash him out when attackers has been declared. Get your soldiers.
Yup, never underestimate a one mana cantrip that has a potential for a blowout.
Passing with 7+ mana up in a mono W deck is mad suspicious, though. No one will just attack you like you’re not sitting on a Settle the Wreckage or something. Too cute imo
I have a Darien deck and my favorite card for this deck is Jade Monolith. One generic mana, redirect damage from one creature to myself at instant speed and I can do that on my enemies' creatures and at instant speed. What's better than building my board during my turn? BUILDING IT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S TURN. Also, it's super political too.
Regarding the Cathars' Crusade, what you want to do is put all your creatures in one area, with one+1/+1 counter above that area. When the next batch of creatures come in, add a counter to the first area, put the second batch in a different area, and put a single +1/+1 counter on the new area. And so on for the third, fourth, and fifth.
Suck it, Moses.
Still not sucking it! Best recommendation so far though. But still WAY too inconvenient for my blood. Nope!
@@dino-wer-kuh3498 Moeses please just do it T_T
@@TahuNuva2008 not gonna happen!
@@dino-wer-kuh3498 -_-
Fire and brimstone is secretly great in this deck. The floor is 4 damage to you and 4 damage to an opponent you make 4 1/1s. Ceiling is 8 damage to yourself you gain 8/16/24 life create 8 1/1s. Seems solid for 3ww at Instant speed.
21:34 That ending earned a like
Cathars crusade feels like such a chore to play in paper I totally agree
thanks! i thought im the only one :)
Never hit a like button so fast. Darien is my first and longest running commander deck.
Joe's shirt brought back some memories. Also, happy to see some love for Haromnious Archon, I've ran it in multiple go wide decks to great effect.
I play it in Alesha, where most nontokens have power 2 or less. Love it.
To count cathars, just make groups of tokens. Put one dice over them that indicates the +1/+1. So a 1 die above like 10 tokens means all of them have a +1/+1.
Thank you for introducing me to warping wail!
The cat. A new member of the NITPICKING NERDS!
Amber has always been our third member
Lunarch Veteran is a new one for this deck
Love my Darien deck, its probably not as strong as it could be, but I built it around a holy crusaders theme and its a bunch of fun
1:15 made me smile when you said you got custom ones :)
My Derian deck has a hard lock with a 3 card combo. Elesh Norn, Kormus Bell, and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth.
thats super mean! i love it :D ill keep that in mind if i want to power it up a lil. thats too evil for my aimed pow lvl ^^
@@dino-wer-kuh3498 there 2 other cards that can be use, Karma and Crusading knight. With this 2 you can use the Urborg for more than one reason.
I absolutely LOVE Cathar’s Crusade but there is no efficient way of tracking it that exists lol
Exactly! It's really good, but WAY too inconvenient to play IMO. In a casual setting I happily lose some win% cutting it in favor of more fluent gameplay
I am now convinced your group's meta is way different than mine. Some of the cards you cut like Blood of the Martyr, are all stars in the deck. At least with my group. Our decks are very similar. I opted for Aetherflux Reservoir and Test of Endurance for wincons. Storm Herd is also in mine for a wincon. I wish I could afford a Mana Crypt for mine. I went opposite with lands. I kept pain lands but more plains so Emeria triggers. I have also taken the Dingus Staff/Ashnod's Altar combo out because I had Dingus Staff backfire way too many times. It's a neat trick, but just a trick.
the Kjeldoran Cunning theme deck got me back into Magic in 05. Love this masochist!
Oh wow, you and Magic go way back!
In mono white I'll never agree that scroll rack isn't amazing. So useful for getting better choices, it's scroll rack you know what it can do.
Hold on a second!
Darien is my favorite edh deck. I have it as a soldier tribal (what a surprise, I know) and only now after couple of years I'm finding out he's soldier himself? I have original copy from Coldsnap which says Human Lord and not Human Soldier.
I feel kind of stupid right now 😀
I was always thinking how cool it would be if he was soldier as well...
Wells this information improved my deck without making any changes to it. Thank you 😀
Also Strixhaven stadium is really fun in this deck.
And Eldrazi monument is often game over.
Lord is no longer a creature type and all previous Lords have been errata’d
I also only recently realized that he had been made a soldier as well. Auto upgrade.
I think catapult master will only need to fire the target creature out of the catapult if its indestructible.
The 5 soldiers are not to man the catapult, they're to subdue the creature and load it into the catapult
Love these submitted tune-ups. Thank you guys.
Darien is my favorite commander and I'll shout it from the rooftops every time. Question though. I'm seeing fetchlands in this deck... Am I missing what they're for? Paying life does not equal taking damage so they don't trigger Darien.
field of the dead shenanigans
Hey! I run them as they provide lots of incremental value. Field triggers, I can use weathered wayfarer in response to cracking them to get below the required landcount, they are ramp with brought back, sevinnes reclamation etc etc. Oh, and they shuffle my library after scrollrack, but the nerds cut that card. Fetches still are dope though
I preferred when the supporter names were ordered by name. It was easier to anticipate when my name would fly by. Is that a little vain? Yes. But sometimes it's the small things in life, amiright?
Hey guys, I was wondering why you wouldn't add in a By Invitation Only in the board wipe slot, as i feel like it would be good considering the amount of creatures you have.
I started making this deck but couldnt finish it. Cards in my pool that I miss here are Relic vial and Goblin Lyre.
Darien, Ping of Kjeldor
Archangel of Thune is basically a second copy of Cathar’s Crusade
I love my Darien deck. It's usually a target right away, which sucks because Darien is so expensive to cast ...
1,000,000 views for a cat cameo!? Let's do it yall! We just need 10,000 people to watch it 100 times and we should be good. I'm doing my part!
We appreciate your work
This feels like a neat home for coveted jewel! Then again thats probably not Spike enough for a tune up.
Had that in my list for quite some time! Love the card
Haven't looked at the deck yet, but I literally just built Darien!
Does it have a good number of anthems? I actually cut skullclamp(sad face!) cause my tokens we're always 2/2 or better when I drew it.
I do have some, but not many. More of a late game thing a la elesh norn. Skullclamp is absolutely insane in (my version of) the deck. I run phyrexian altar as well as ramp/combo piece, so I got some reach even if my soldiers are buffed
Court of grace incentivizes players to hit you, which synergizes with Darien don’t think it should be cut
exactly! i'll keep it over cathars crusade :D
With how many board wipes exile or sac, I think spirit losses to Guardian. Especially when your playing a 6 mana commander in a white deck. It also dodges mass bounce. 1 extra mana is worth the added insurance AND the fact that it has flash.
You guys are awesome! keep up the great content
for creature wipes, why not run by invitation only?
More tune up's! Love ittttt
Love this content! I am always tweaking my EDH decks. (I have a LOT of them. 😂) Fresh eyes on one of my faves would be fun!
Edit: Cats always make videos better!
Congrats to Moses for never losing a commander game ever again.
thanks ^^
We better see that cat 😤
I dont have a solution for the Cathar Crusade, but I still just wanted to say, Suck it Moesis!
i hate you doc
Martyr's Bond is very good in this deck
I would swap out Serra Ascendant for Lunarch Veteran. Having a soul sister out is so important and having two out is a blast.
I'm 100% adding the veteran, but I dont think I'll cut the ascendant for it. Personal attachment to the card, I just like making people sweat dropping it T1
@@dino-wer-kuh3498 Good point that is a fun card for sure
I play mainly mono white. I prefer Spirit Guardians over Selfless Spirit. The amount of board wipes now that exile or sacrifice is surprisingly high. The Phasing out and instant speed of Spirit Guardians is often better than the very telegraphed Selfless Spirit.
Cyclonic Rift... that is all.
If there's a sure thing in Commander... It's that the blue player WILL have cyclonic rift.
Also Teferi's Protection is a one-off, Spirit Guardian isn't.
@Nitpicking Nerds
Would you be willing to try upgrading a high Power Korvold Deck without pushing It into Cedh?
0:00-0:07, Darien cat tribal?
if y'all think cutting the Blood of the Martyr is a good idea then you havent played a Darien deck
Darien, King of Ping!!
Would you guys do planeswalkers as commanders for a deck tech?
I wonder if the cat sits around and nitpicks the nerds.
You forgot the best combo of the deck. Karma + yawgmoth
Hey guys! So, I have a question; I really want you guys to do a tune up for one of my decks, but I cant afford more than one month of the Patreon fee for this tier. Can I just do one month and still get the perks, or do I have to remain a Patron for multiple months to be considered? Love the content, keep up the good work!
One month is all it takes for any of the Patreon perks!
Yes to the cat!
No SoulBoy? Lunarch Veteran seems like a sound choice here...
Good call! 1cmc is amazing indeed
Good build
I don't think Blasting Station can combo with just Darien and a Soul sister. Aren't you sacrificing the same token you just created to activate blasting station over and over?
Yes, but you active the triggers of the other cards in the battlefield with each new token 1/1
Interesting one
Thanks!
Hey guys. Been subbed for a while! You are my number one channel for EDH info! It's fun to watch how each video you are getting better and better. Would love to see you guys do a Commander game on youtube! It would be great!
They are in fact currently working on it! They did a Kickstarter to finance the equipment. That's why I got this tune-up, was part of the supporter tier
Deck tech on beezys Eloise deck :) would love to see that
That mana value change is unacceptable! Without tithe how will he ever pay that much for spells!
Why no Anointer Priest?
I didn't play it bcs its worse than the ones I run already. And with all the creature tutors already increasing consistency I'd rather added other cards
Nice coat / jacket, Beezy.
Thank you :D
For Cathar’s Crusade. I just put 1 spin down on the card and look at the dice to tell my opponent how many counters are on the board. Suck it Moses.
And if you haven’t played harmonious archon with the crusade on the battlefield, get your 2nd spin down ready
but it doesnt work if creatures enter after each other! they wont have the same amount of counters! so far im not convinced! :D
No talk about Karma+Urborg?! Come on! Where are my true Darien players at? Also Angel of Glory's Rise has a decent combo with Fiend Hunter.
My original build had that! In the end I ended up cutting it as I wanted to try out other stuff, the list is more or less in constant flux. There are SO MANY cool cards for darien, but sadly only 100 deckslots. I keep it in mind though, probably adding it again eventually, such a cool interaction
Irl, look for someone who's as excited about you, as Beezy is excited about Field of the Dead.
If you find that connection, marry them on the spot
@@NitpickingNerds Exactly!
I made a huge mistake when I built mine. I just sort of assumed people would be attacking me. I only put 2 ways to deal damage to myself in the deck. Bad choice.
Joe: First we have to read the card...
*Cue in educational jingle: Reading the card explains the card.
-LOL I like the deck but I find it funny that your mana base is crazy for Field of the Dead to activate makes me wonder if the deck would be stronger with just plains?
-I know it is a bad card but I've always liked this silly card, Personal Incarnation, would it's death trigger ''Lose half your life'' work with Darien?
-Was Nomads Assembly considered? :P
i play field in every deck out of principle ^^ i just love the card, and im gonna make it work. with the words of dark confidant: greatness, at any cost! personal incarnation sadly wouldnt work, life loss isnt damage, but all damage makes you lose life :) never considered nomads assembly, but it feels kinda winmore to me. i could talk about that deck the whole day, its my baby :D if you want to enjoy my ramblings more, join the discord ;)
@@dino-wer-kuh3498 Rats, I figured the loss of life wouldn't work but always good to check :P
this deck is literally doomsday gettin smacked and growing in size...
Yes to the kitty
Unm why in the world would you not include Luminarch Ascension or jade Monolith or much protection Darian? I mean to be able to stick on the board he needs hexproof/shroud/indestructible to even have a chance of sticking on the board and the deck does nothing without him.
Just been playing Darian for a very long time and although I have 40+ decks, Darian is my favorite. I have spent 16 mana before just to recast Darian so yeah... he draws TONS of hate.
Luminarch Ascension is awesome in the deck because if they hit you so it doesn't activate... then great! You get a bunch of soldiers... if they don't hit you then great! .. You overwhelme the board with angels!
As far as jade Monolith it is awesome!... it will get you so many soldiers out of nowhere and will let you get chip damage in wherever you want (once the opponents realize if they block, you will get more soldiers).
@@nickleewright both cards are really good for the deck for sure! sadly i only have 100 deckslots, and i just prefer other cards, even if they might be less powerful :) i have a 100+ maybe pile and keep swapping things out occasionally to keep things fresh
meh, use the angel replacement enchantment and bishop of wings, you get 4 life per 1 angel you get..
I think Tithe is worth it (But definitely not worth purchasing if they don't already have it).
I'm only here cause of the cat in the thumbnail
Would love to hear how the Nitpicking Nerds would upgrade my 5 color (Kaladesh-)Energy themed deck (Kenrith Commander) sadly cant patreonize atm. Love ur videos dudes
Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, why you keep hitting yourself?!
I play a Darien deck, and when I wanna keep track of Cathars Crusade I just put the amount of counters I’ve added onto the Cathar card. and I add it to each creature when I atttack
Doesn't work, because I don't play 1 swatch of simultaneously entering creatures. They pile up over time, requiring their own track keeping. Still not sucking it!
what is the cat's name? We want answers.
Her name is Amber! I actually mention at the end :)
I love cats but this ain't about you, Amber
More cats please!
😻
KITTY!!!!11!1!1!!
She’s so cute
I use darien as 99 in my heliod deck, cuz then i give a lose/lose choice to my opponents: let me get infinite life, or give me million of tokens hahaha
Yes to cat
Here b4 the 1 million views
Cat cute or stinky?
Stinky, but not in the smelly way, AND cute
Yo Moses, If you make 6 tokens with Cathars Crusade out, you go 6 counters on the first one, 5, 4 etc and 1 on the last - no dice turning.
The problem is the 100 tokens after that. Every following tokens increases the count, and gets increased by the ones following them. It's a hassle
A nerd cat?!
more cat pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee
Noted!
You have a cat?!? Why isn't in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE?!
You try convincing a mercurial beastie to cooperate for longer than five minutes
@@ThorMan91587 My cat was extremely well trained. Came when I called him. Would lay down on command. Lead us around the Frisbee Golf course (actually knew the course and walked in front of us). Pooped outside (I didn't have a litter box). Would tap on the window of the room I was in to let me know he wanted to come back inside. Cats are brilliant. Thinking they can't be trained is a ridiculous myth.
@@thechestrockfield chill. Nowhere did I say they were untrainable. I was being facetious
@@ThorMan91587 Did you not say they were untrainable, or were you being facetious? I'm perfectly chill. Just trying to debunk myths.
The cutest guys plus a cat?? Stop it.
Heh kitty
CAT
Cat
too fast, it was literally uploaded 1 min ago!
So early!
FIRST BABY
Indeed!
I have the ultimate Darien deck.........no ones build comes close to mine.
Decklist??
@@NitpickingNerds want me post it on this comment or you got an email? Lolz
@@douglasfoley2060 im interested as well! ^^ you can join the discord and show it off there!
Doubt 🧐, but it's not hard to get on the internet lol
@@dino-wer-kuh3498 don’t do social media besides RUclips. I’ll just post it up under this comment. I’ll do it soon.
where is the commander game play didnt people pay to see commander game play
Love my Darien deck, its probably not as strong as it could be, but I built it around a holy crusaders theme and its a bunch of fun