Well you gave it a good crack it was good watching but glad you you saved it in the first place and now someone else is taking it on it I would like to see it back on the road
Im from the UK im 53 now so i remember these cars very well, got a reputation for rust and poor build quality, i always liked the shape and im glad you are taking it on, it seems the car wants to live again, with help from you, great to see
Thanks for sharing. I own one of these in Santa Barbara, found in similar condition to yours, and just had to sell it too. I came a long way with it and finally just drove it on the road for the first time. I am selling it to an editor of a British Magazine called Practical Classics who, along with some Rover club members will attempt to drive it across the US and back to the UK to visit its factory (what's left of it). I was so frustrated with the car for all the same reasons you were along the way. The brake master cylinder, for example, simply would not let go of its pistons and I eventually (Im talking months) figured out I could make a series 2 one work with an adapter and a hammer. The brakes work great now and I am so glad that I can be a part of this car's big come back! it so deserves it and hopefully they make it safely!
I can understand the frustration for finding parts and wanting to get it fixed. Sometimes our projects are just more than we can tackle. I hope the new owner can get it restored and running. It was a cool car, no doubt. Thanks for sharing, Richard! Can't wait to see what project is next! 😎🔧🔧🔧
Hi David! The time commitment was just too great. Coupled with the parts hassle, and it was more than I was ready for. Anyway, my next will it run video is going to be good. Remember the Chevelle video? Chevy fans like it. I have a similar one coming for Mopar people. If all goes to plan it will be great!
aw man, you came so far and now you have to resell it. but I see why, if there is no chance to get parts easily and no documentation around, things become frustrating very quick. but you made it run and everything, which is quite the success! :D the piece of black glob reminded me of an abandoned Audi A6 we tried to make run again. the degrading fuel destroyed the sealings of the fuel sensor/fuel pump unit into a disgusting goo, and some of it fell into the gasoline below. unfortunately someone had tried to start this car and others on bad fuel, making life really difficult. (some used car dealer was breakfasted by his partner and suddenly ended up with a large hall full of vehicles that now suddenly needed to be moved, and I think we couldn't get neither running smoothly. modern fuel injections are way too sensitive to dirt and deteriorating fuel...)
Hey Richard, you did give a good head start for the next owner. It is great to get some hands on a car that is out of your normal realm. Well take care and can not wait for your next video!!
We rarely get more than an inch or so of snow in Tennessee, so our roads only get salted once or twice a year. As a result, we don't have the rust issues that people up north have. I ran the scale at a salvage yard for years. I had around 17,000 cars come across the scale during my time there, and i only saw one that had holes in the floor pan. We just don't get much more than surface rust here, even when a car sits out for years. We also don't have the issues with rodents that you guys have up north either. I never purchased a single car during my time at the yard that had mice in it. I have never personally seen evidence of mice in an engine compartment, and I have literally been under the hoods of thousands of cars, most of which had been sitting. I guess we are just lucky in that respect.
Your patience with this vehicle has been admirable, many would have given up long before. Glad you found someone who will be able to hopefully get it back on the road. Looking forward to your up coming videos of the road trip south. 👍🇨🇦
I'm going through exactly what you have done so far, The Rover, Mk 1 SD1 even here in the UK is difficult to get parts for, I'm glad the car is going to be restored 👍
@@whattherust spot on you can, I have just repaired the old one in my sd1 and replaced the rubber brake hoses on the front, the exhaust system is the last job 😉
Thanks Dale. Working on that master cylinder was one of the more frustrating jobs I have taken on. I really needed new springs, but the kit did not include any.
You made the right choice selling it. I was gonna say... That's a heck of a long battle to take on. Hope you get some updates on it to share somewhere down the road.
Greetings from Scotland….Well Richard you are a brave man taking on that challenge. I must say when I saw you purchasing the car I thought it was going to be a long shot. I remember these cars as being a bit of a big ( by UK standards ) soft, heavy land yacht. It looked to be a real labour of love to get that up and running. Very nice when it’s in working order, but a complete pain when it’s in that condition. Cudos for even attempting it. Looking forward to more “will it run” vids with some Americana. Cheers
Hi John! Yes, you are right. It was a challenge, and I am super happy I was able to get it running and find a good home for it. We have some good American iron will it runs coming soon!
Hello there! Thanks for the upload its great to see one in the US and it being given some attention. The Rover SD1 is a rare car even here in the Uk and as you know they were built here. I own two SD1s a 3.5 V8 Vanden Plas which ive modified to 3.9 and a 2600 (straight six) Vanden Plas. (Vanden Plas being the top trim level here in the uk in 1986) I own a bunch of different classic Rovers and finding parts is growing increasingly difficult with every passing year. I wish you every success no matter what becomes of the car as your patience has been admirable. Godspeed!
@@whattherust No problem and thank you! Some of my cars are on my channel if you would like to take a look but i dont take RUclips seriously. All the best
My late father had an original series 1 SD1, a Rover 3500 in Brazillia brown in 1976. At the time it was considered futuristic with very bold styling, unfortunately reliability, as with most British Leyland cats was not the best!
Sad to see her go, but she is going to a good home. She is a cool car and deserves to live again and make more memories for the new owner. Thank you for sharing this journey with this fine automobile God bless brother and sister .
I understand where you are coming from. I had a '96 Roadmaster wagon. They made 5200 of them, which made it rare enough, but mine had an extremely rare option package, and many of the body parts were specific to cars with the option package that mine had. They sold less than 200 with that option package. I absolutely loved that car and actually saved it from the scale, but I did not have the time, money, or connections to obtain the body parts. Most of them were unobtanium, and had to be fabricated. As much as I loved the car, I had to let it go. I just didn't have the necessary resources to give it what it needed.
Hey thanks for the video. Great to see you in action again. I'm a little disappointed you couldn't save it yourself, but I understand the circumstances. You gave it a good shot! Thanks again and looking forward to the next one.
I bought one of these for £100 in 1994 and drove the wheels off it for 4 months. When it was dead the scrapyard gave me £75 back for it! Kind of wish i had it now
My dad had a blue 2600 in about 1991 - 1993. It was a great car honestly, I remember the doors hanging and you had to lift them to close them but everything else was fine from memory. A lazy workforce and British motoring journalists weird self-assassination of their own car industry didn't help
A lot of the parts for this car can be obtained from Rimmer Brothers in the UK, although posting parts will be very expensive. This car shares many parts with Range Rovers and Land Rovers from the same era which means some parts are likely easily obtainable in the Americas. Interior and exterior trim and other parts particular to this model will be tough to obtain though.
Rimmer Brothers here in the UK are probably the best people to get Rover SD1 parts from well pretty much any British Layland era car, don't know what the shipping would be mind you, look them up 👍
Well done for tackling master cylinder , many British cars may seem odd and fiddly, iv worked here in UK garages on USA motors and the no nonsense usa engineering approach is better overall, like USA bikes maintenance , everything on the outside, same old steam engines ,etc , thanks for sharing and you have saved another piece o history for the future generation. !
I wish you too very best Thanksgiving I know you're out on the road doing the best you can and you work very hard on helping everybody else out I enjoy your videos can't wait to watch the next one take care of yourself and God bless
Me too. I held onto it a long time for exactly that, but the parts are just too expensive. Had I kept it, I would have removed all the fuel injection stuff and put a carb on.
Thank you Rich! Not as exciting as a will-it-run video, but a lot of work went into the car and I wanted to provide an ending to the chapter on it. Happy Thanksgiving.
Rust I would agree but build quality was good for the time. We had many a good journey in rover it was a back up car to the jaguar/ Daimler xj6. It was like a space ship inside compared to the jaguars . I had such a privilege childhood
Sorry your Rover project didn't pan out in the long run, Richard. You did make some progress on it though, and you found a good new owner, so you were a good steward of the car. Best of luck to the new owner! I still have dreams of owning an MGB or Triumph Spitfire or maybe a TR4 some day. Those might be a little easier to deal with because they were imported in large numbers and I would guess there is a large community of enthusiasts in the US. I've still got more projects ahead before I think of that, however. Best wishes.
This is the first video that I've watched on this car.I was going to suggest that possibly you could take the master cylinder reservoir to a 3D print shop and have the old one scanned to make a new one but.....the end result was you sold the car.Great video though and I liked the car although I hadn't heard of it before.
Hi Richard, I am from the UK and there were lots of these rovers about in the 80's but even over here now, you rarely see any. The 3500 V8 was the most sought after model. It's a shame you could not keep it but just sourcing parts alone would be a headache.
Right Andy. Had it been in better mechanical shape I would have kept it, but I just don't have time for a major project and I don't like my cars to just sit around. Thanks for watching!
If I remember that was stabiliser rod and part ofvthe shift release older early car had a button under the shift leaver and newer models the button was on top it was basically there to give support to the very long shaft.
This reminded me of a humorous comparison. Remember grade school at recess? You know we actually did have tablets Moses was selling them on the corner. Haha stone tablets. But Red Rover Red Rover send blank t blank right over parrot you have a Red Rover which is really neat.
Excellent video Richard :) also gear shifter 2 Align Key Hex screws one in front also back on shift handle on swivel were fluid break free and may want try get out clean rust on pivot arm plus swivel shaft arm to then grease up and Align Hex screws to keep from seized up again to! Also check with Mitsubishi dealers or Rock Auto get parts or any Aftermarket like Riley's Auto parts for parts you may have near you! I know Canadian Tire won't have it for you to get parts need! NAPA may have them in list on parts on computer and but not sure of hand you check with them! I not sure locations are but in 2009 remember hearing about company called Hot Spot Auto Parts Store and be worth checking out too they deal with lots Europeans vehicles like Datsun ( Nissan) also Honda of old classic vechiles and nice prices too !
Another great video and great to see the sd1 again. The master cylinders are a pain, had a couple of range rover classics in the past here in the uk. Had probs with the master cylinder in one, like yourself rebuilt it but never lasted long, ended I suppose bit easier sourcing a new one as I'm in the uk. I see the seals came from rimmer brothers normally a good supplier of hard to get parts of good quality. Maybe the slight honing of cylinder didn't help as the tolerances are very tight. I realise why you did it and in a sense you had nothing to loose as seals would of worn quick or not sealed if you just rebuilt it. It's a shame you have sold it as would of been great to see it move under its own steam, considering all the hard work you put into it but as you say its all a question of how much quality time you can spend on it. Keep up the great work and look forward to seeing your next project. Jasper swindon uk
Thank you Jasper. You're right, it comes down to time. Everything on this car takes a bit longer, because parts are tough to find and everything is all new to me. The hoses from Rimmers were great, but that rebuild kit wasn't. I really needed new springs, but none were included. I have fond memories of the car though. It was a privilege to work on it and to learn about it.
Marvel Mystery Oil is mostly made of Dex/Merc transmission fluid, so if you ever have some laying around, it works just as well as Marvel. I sold it for years. That is why it is red.
Currently working on restoring one right now(in Ohio) but in much much better condition and was never stored for a day outside. I have yet to find a centimeter of rust but I've been replacing the fuel system as it sat for two years and only traveled 8000 miles since 1985. You have to be savvy with jerry-rigging things and finding out-of-the-box solutions. It's funny you mention this not being a 56 Chevy, because it turns out the Filler neck for a 1947 Chevy is a direct fit. All the plastic bits have taken no time or money to repplace as I just design and 3d print them then paint if necessary.
reminded me of my 1994 q45 infinity when i was shopping for idle air control valve shopped all of usa and found only 1 in florida spent hrs searching for it
Rimmer bros here in the UK are specialist in these. Some of them used the th350 others share the similar age jag xj6 box.. Eng is shared with similar age range rover Upto circa 1990 & the Morgan plus8.
British Leyland would use whatever parts came to hand that day from whatever source they could it was a miracle they made it through the 70's never mind the 80/90-s
Probably some walnut and peanut shells crammed down there some where. Might have to burn them out.❤🐘🇺🇸I was just kidding about them shells. I'd Take it out in the driveway and pressure wash it out and lube it up with P.B. blaster.
This car is a good example of one of the major concerns with european cars manufacturers : a lack of normalization which is a result of too much competition between companies. There is a division inside the EU institutions in charge of solving this problem step by step, but it's taking ages because private companies are braking as much as they can, always in hope to become the only one that will have to make no change thus to have no costs for adapting production lines...
Shame you had to sell it but that's the way it goes sometimes. The guy you sold it to should know that there are several other brake master cylinders that will fit it with little to no mods.
I asked him about that. His thought was a booster and master from a MK 2 was the way to go. Those are still available, although pricey and a very tight fit to install.
It's electrolytic corrosion. When you said you were going to be rebuilding the master cylinder, from experience, I was cynical. The issue is that, unlike US rebuild kits, the cups and seals on foreign rebuild kits are at Original tolerances, not oversized a few thousandths. Thus, if you hone the cylinder at all (or do anything but a very light scuff with wet/dry paper) you can't build pressure after re-assembly. I learned on Lockheed hydraulics with my 1967 MGB-GT back in 1976 and had the experience reinforced with Mercedes, Opel and VW OEM rebuild kits. But that was a good job on the reservoir especially considering what you had to work with.
That would explain a lot. It just would not build pressure, and the bore was scored, but I have seen worse work OK. The rebuild kit was very cheap though. As soon as I saw it I became worried.
@@whattherust - The foreign kits don’t include the pistons or retainers. Same for wheel cylinders. But they cost more than American kits that do. It’s disappointing at best.
I had a 2 Rover's when I was stationed in England. One was a six cylinder, there was no room to work on it and when I brought it to a shop they would open the hood, instantly shut it and tell me they would not work on it.
It's a hard work to recover this particular Rover ! The time this car appeared was a kind of "revolution" for Rover because exterior design was so different, really modern. I knew design of some internal components and selection of parts (quality) was poor. Front circular lights and big bumpers are - from my point of view - not nice and affect original design however required by US laws / rules. I forgot it and It could (first) not believe rear brakes are drum brakes 🙈. Disk brakes are expected on this "modern" car !
I tried. There were two oddities with this one. The bolt spacing where it mounts is very narrow. So much so that every master I checked in a junkyard was much wider. The second is the outlets are on the opposite side of all of the British, German, and Japanese cars I compared. there is likely one that could have been adapted to fit, but I was not able to find it.
As many times I have seen it, I will never understand why someone would park a perfectly good car and let it rot, rather than sell it, or at least keep it running.
Right, this happens a lot and there are many answers. I asked the owner's son why it was parked. He said his parents got too old to drive a car that small, so they bought a Lincoln and parked the Rover. The owner was fond of the car and just liked to have it close by.
Worse, because of the needless complexity and the electronics. There are relays everywhere, and weird parts like a mini odometer under the hood that trips a warning light when the car has a certain amount of miles on it. The UK versions were likely better.
Surprised that you didn't buy a Haynes manual for it. Worth their weight in blood, sweat & tears... And I find it odd that you couldn't find a master cylinder. We have owners clubs that have hard to find parts re-manufactured. Oh, well. (Never liked that car anyway. Common as muck)... (Good series of videos, though. Just watched them all in one splurge). 👍
I had the UK verison fof the Haynes, but I don't recall the name. It was OK, but was lacking in some detail. Thanks for the support of the channel! Much appreciated.
Also Happy Thanksgiving Holiday Richard , Christine, also families & friends and RUclips Viewers to in USA! Yes fully understand get rid of Rover Richard :) also had 1972 Ford F350 extended cab pick up after restoration fully like new and original shape hate myself get rid of from Tow Truck used all life as then repaint colors before tow truck colors was upset but had move on ! Also last year had 2002 Chevrolet Impala E-X LTZ LS 4 door car fix up from been parts cars in 2005 then did want fix up till 2010 full done as sadly gave up last October 9 2021 to new owner! Also both vechile baby them so much yes was 2 owner of both but want something different do in vechile and attached to because truck my late Cousin Jerry truck from his business with girlfriend many ran together after both past away in 1990's I did what could with it! Car was late friend of mine and we built together also he told me never give up to nice ! Plus when got fix up on paint full dry and license for took over said let show it does and he said you go man Lol! Not stock motor, transmission or anything except one thing was rear view mirror only ! But when he past away in 2013 a week before he phone said glad getting prizes for car at vechile shows worth it eh and said sure had and glad one like gave for ideas to and motor also we built together on also much more also ! I know my late dad thought crazy did but was fun too on rebuilt! He dam straight buddy we should do another sometime Lol and I said we will ! I got blue prints to from son past to me how do them after his dad passed away ! But all ones done over years too had some wishes had be shop and storage to all fun vechile bring out April to October each one by one but never happened yet Lol! My job been Auto Mechanics and Restoration work job so many done and you say bet love it from day one and still today! I have done lots same vechile but in different colors too and some stock and others street legal!
I tried a bunch, but the problem here was that the mounting bolts are very close together. Closer than any car I have seen before, and closer than anything I could find.
Look up the nitrosilvia channel from england,he has a video on the total rebuild of the sd1 v8 called the dotty project,you will love it,guaranteed👍👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Well you gave it a good crack it was good watching but glad you you saved it in the first place and now someone else is taking it on it I would like to see it back on the road
Sorry to see you let it beat you. They are a great car.
Im from the UK im 53 now so i remember these cars very well, got a reputation for rust and poor build quality, i always liked the shape and im glad you are taking it on, it seems the car wants to live again, with help from you, great to see
Fantastic episode. I loved watching you solve the problem with the seized shifter. Press on regardless.
Glad you liked it. Everything on this car was a learning experience.
Thanks for sharing. I own one of these in Santa Barbara, found in similar condition to yours, and just had to sell it too. I came a long way with it and finally just drove it on the road for the first time. I am selling it to an editor of a British Magazine called Practical Classics who, along with some Rover club members will attempt to drive it across the US and back to the UK to visit its factory (what's left of it). I was so frustrated with the car for all the same reasons you were along the way. The brake master cylinder, for example, simply would not let go of its pistons and I eventually (Im talking months) figured out I could make a series 2 one work with an adapter and a hammer. The brakes work great now and I am so glad that I can be a part of this car's big come back! it so deserves it and hopefully they make it safely!
Hey Geoffrey. You have been donw the same road as I. Neat vehicles, but tough to keep going on a budget.
I can understand the frustration for finding parts and wanting to get it fixed. Sometimes our projects are just more than we can tackle. I hope the new owner can get it restored and running. It was a cool car, no doubt. Thanks for sharing, Richard! Can't wait to see what project is next! 😎🔧🔧🔧
Hi David! The time commitment was just too great. Coupled with the parts hassle, and it was more than I was ready for. Anyway, my next will it run video is going to be good. Remember the Chevelle video? Chevy fans like it. I have a similar one coming for Mopar people. If all goes to plan it will be great!
@@whattherust Where are you based? I live between New York City and UK and if I can help with parts?
I appreciate how you take care not to damage. Even on common vehicles you take care. I have never seen you just rip parts off.
True Ted. I am one to try and keep the original parts in the original places.
aw man, you came so far and now you have to resell it. but I see why, if there is no chance to get parts easily and no documentation around, things become frustrating very quick.
but you made it run and everything, which is quite the success! :D
the piece of black glob reminded me of an abandoned Audi A6 we tried to make run again. the degrading fuel destroyed the sealings of the fuel sensor/fuel pump unit into a disgusting goo, and some of it fell into the gasoline below. unfortunately someone had tried to start this car and others on bad fuel, making life really difficult. (some used car dealer was breakfasted by his partner and suddenly ended up with a large hall full of vehicles that now suddenly needed to be moved, and I think we couldn't get neither running smoothly. modern fuel injections are way too sensitive to dirt and deteriorating fuel...)
Love your show! You are the car doctor!!!!!
Pleased to hear the Rover will be having a new home,nice sporty car.Enjoyed Your Video Richard and Christina.Take Care, Your Oregon Friend ☮️
Thanks you Charles!
@@whattherust You Are Welcome Richard and Christina!
Hey Richard, you did give a good head start for the next owner. It is great to get some hands on a car that is out of your normal realm. Well take care and can not wait for your next video!!
Thanks Kat! Lots of new interesting stuff is on the way.
We rarely get more than an inch or so of snow in Tennessee, so our roads only get salted once or twice a year. As a result, we don't have the rust issues that people up north have. I ran the scale at a salvage yard for years. I had around 17,000 cars come across the scale during my time there, and i only saw one that had holes in the floor pan. We just don't get much more than surface rust here, even when a car sits out for years. We also don't have the issues with rodents that you guys have up north either. I never purchased a single car during my time at the yard that had mice in it. I have never personally seen evidence of mice in an engine compartment, and I have literally been under the hoods of thousands of cars, most of which had been sitting. I guess we are just lucky in that respect.
I agree. The cars here are not at all like up North. What we call rusty here would be called mint there.
You are an awesome mechanic...you make it look easy which personally I know it is not!
Thank you Frank!
Your patience with this vehicle has been admirable, many would have given up long before. Glad you found someone who will be able to hopefully get it back on the road. Looking forward to your up coming videos of the road trip south. 👍🇨🇦
Thanks Dan! The videos from the trip are going to be great!
I'm going through exactly what you have done so far, The Rover, Mk 1 SD1 even here in the UK is difficult to get parts for, I'm glad the car is going to be restored 👍
I too am restoring a mk1 in avacado green and parts are a pain to source
Good to hear Vincent. I am told a MK 2 booster and master cylinder can be forced to fit, but I had reached my limit on patience.
@@whattherust spot on you can, I have just repaired the old one in my sd1 and replaced the rubber brake hoses on the front, the exhaust system is the last job 😉
I was really impressed that you got the master cylinder apart, good job.
Thanks Dale. Working on that master cylinder was one of the more frustrating jobs I have taken on. I really needed new springs, but the kit did not include any.
Glad it's going to someone who will complete the restoration.
Yes, it is much better off now.
You made the right choice selling it. I was gonna say... That's a heck of a long battle to take on. Hope you get some updates on it to share somewhere down the road.
Greetings from Scotland….Well Richard you are a brave man taking on that challenge. I must say when I saw you purchasing the car I thought it was going to be a long shot.
I remember these cars as being a bit of a big ( by UK standards ) soft, heavy land yacht. It looked to be a real labour of love to get that up and running. Very nice when it’s in working order, but a complete pain when it’s in that condition. Cudos for even attempting it.
Looking forward to more “will it run” vids with some Americana.
Cheers
Hi John! Yes, you are right. It was a challenge, and I am super happy I was able to get it running and find a good home for it. We have some good American iron will it runs coming soon!
Hello there! Thanks for the upload its great to see one in the US and it being given some attention. The Rover SD1 is a rare car even here in the Uk and as you know they were built here. I own two SD1s a 3.5 V8 Vanden Plas which ive modified to 3.9 and a 2600 (straight six) Vanden Plas. (Vanden Plas being the top trim level here in the uk in 1986) I own a bunch of different classic Rovers and finding parts is growing increasingly difficult with every passing year. I wish you every success no matter what becomes of the car as your patience has been admirable. Godspeed!
Thansk you Dan. Excellent choice of youtube name as well.
@@whattherust No problem and thank you! Some of my cars are on my channel if you would like to take a look but i dont take RUclips seriously. All the best
My late father had an original series 1 SD1, a Rover 3500 in Brazillia brown in 1976. At the time it was considered futuristic with very bold styling, unfortunately reliability, as with most British Leyland cats was not the best!
Sad to see her go, but she is going to a good home. She is a cool car and deserves to live again and make more memories for the new owner. Thank you for sharing this journey with this fine automobile God bless brother and sister .
Thanks my man. Happy Thanksgiving.
@@whattherust you both also. Have a great day
such a cool car.
I understand where you are coming from. I had a '96 Roadmaster wagon. They made 5200 of them, which made it rare enough, but mine had an extremely rare option package, and many of the body parts were specific to cars with the option package that mine had. They sold less than 200 with that option package. I absolutely loved that car and actually saved it from the scale, but I did not have the time, money, or connections to obtain the body parts. Most of them were unobtanium, and had to be fabricated. As much as I loved the car, I had to let it go. I just didn't have the necessary resources to give it what it needed.
Yes, exactly. Sometimes the vehicle is better off being owned by someone else.
Sorry you gave up on it bud! But hey you rescued it!
Hey thanks for the video. Great to see you in action again. I'm a little disappointed you couldn't save it yourself, but I understand the circumstances. You gave it a good shot! Thanks again and looking forward to the next one.
Thanks Richie. I have a very good one coming next.
Good for you with what had to be a serious challenge. You have the patience of Job.
Thanks Adam. Specialty Division is what I think it means.
Rich, the car has nice lines and shape. Glad you were able to sell it so that it can be restored as you stated. Take care.
Thanks very much. On to the enxt one!
Brave and confident man. Enjoyed your methodical teaching manner.
Thanks you Steve.
I bought one of these for £100 in 1994 and drove the wheels off it for 4 months. When it was dead the scrapyard gave me £75 back for it! Kind of wish i had it now
My dad had a blue 2600 in about 1991 - 1993. It was a great car honestly, I remember the doors hanging and you had to lift them to close them but everything else was fine from memory. A lazy workforce and British motoring journalists weird self-assassination of their own car industry didn't help
Hopefully you and the buyer can keep in touch and we can see the finished restoration.
I hope the same. The new owner knows these cars very well, so he should make good progress quickly.
A lot of the parts for this car can be obtained from Rimmer Brothers in the UK, although posting parts will be very expensive. This car shares many parts with Range Rovers and Land Rovers from the same era which means some parts are likely easily obtainable in the Americas. Interior and exterior trim and other parts particular to this model will be tough to obtain though.
Rimmer Brothers here in the UK are probably the best people to get Rover SD1 parts from well pretty much any British Layland era car, don't know what the shipping would be mind you, look them up 👍
Well done for tackling master cylinder , many British cars may seem odd and fiddly, iv worked here in UK garages on USA motors and the no nonsense usa engineering approach is better overall, like USA bikes maintenance , everything on the outside, same old steam engines ,etc , thanks for sharing and you have saved another piece o history for the future generation. !
Thanks Steve! That was my intent, so I am glad the Rover is in a better home.
I wish you too very best Thanksgiving I know you're out on the road doing the best you can and you work very hard on helping everybody else out I enjoy your videos can't wait to watch the next one take care of yourself and God bless
Thank you for the support Morley. I hae some really good videos I am editing now. I hope you like them.
Well done on getting that far. Hope the new owner has a RUclips channel!
That is a good question. I don't think he does.
Oh no. I wanted so much to see this car on the road.
Me too. I held onto it a long time for exactly that, but the parts are just too expensive. Had I kept it, I would have removed all the fuel injection stuff and put a carb on.
@@whattherust Well done anyway. I respect your work and love these videos. Keep going!
Great to see you are working on Rover again. Cant wait to see it back in the road and maybe go help with revivals. Maybe power tour.
I should have gone to PT this year. It was so close by, but I just could not free up enough time.
Rick when ever MMO doesn't work try this awesome mixture 4 parts ATF and 1 part Acetone, it works amazingly.
Great video and wise decision. Happy Thanksgiving to you and Christina!
Thank you Rich! Not as exciting as a will-it-run video, but a lot of work went into the car and I wanted to provide an ending to the chapter on it. Happy Thanksgiving.
Would love to have purchased this vehicle. It’s a love/hate with older rovers.
Hey Dave, I can understand that! They are unique, and the Buick V8 is great.
Rust I would agree but build quality was good for the time.
We had many a good journey in rover it was a back up car to the jaguar/ Daimler xj6. It was like a space ship inside compared to the jaguars . I had such a privilege childhood
Love these cars. Not many on the road back here in the UK anymore
You are in good company. I found a lot of enthusiasts for these all around the globe. They are cool. If only parts had been easier to obtain.
Probably not the problem but some models of cars you have to press the break pedal to release the shifter
My dad had one of these in the UK when I was small. It cost him a ton in petrol so he swapped it for a Granada.
Scott from cold war motors is a rover expert, in fact fact he is restoring a rover on his channel, he might be able to help with parts locating
@Doug Dier, good call. I was going to suggest the same thing 👍
keep up with it mate
Thanks Brett!
Damn i just realized your at 18k! Congrats man last time i looked it was like 1.2k subs!
Thanks Dale! The channel is growing a bit. It would great if it were faster, but most things takes time.
@@whattherust it will get faster, especially if you find awesome cars!
Sorry your Rover project didn't pan out in the long run, Richard. You did make some progress on it though, and you found a good new owner, so you were a good steward of the car. Best of luck to the new owner! I still have dreams of owning an MGB or Triumph Spitfire or maybe a TR4 some day. Those might be a little easier to deal with because they were imported in large numbers and I would guess there is a large community of enthusiasts in the US. I've still got more projects ahead before I think of that, however. Best wishes.
Thanks Kaye. I would think a Spitfire or MGB would be much easier. Here in TN I see MGBs in various states of repair all the time.
This is the first video that I've watched on this car.I was going to suggest that possibly you could take the master cylinder reservoir to a 3D print shop and have the old one scanned to make a new one but.....the end result was you sold the car.Great video though and I liked the car although I hadn't heard of it before.
That is true. A 3D shop could make that part easily, and I have a friend who owns a shop. It would have saved some time going that route for sure.
Hi Richard, I am from the UK and there were lots of these rovers about in the 80's but even over here now, you rarely see any. The 3500 V8 was the most sought after model. It's a shame you could not keep it but just sourcing parts alone would be a headache.
Right Andy. Had it been in better mechanical shape I would have kept it, but I just don't have time for a major project and I don't like my cars to just sit around. Thanks for watching!
If I remember that was stabiliser rod and part ofvthe shift release older early car had a button under the shift leaver and newer models the button was on top it was basically there to give support to the very long shaft.
This reminded me of a humorous comparison. Remember grade school at recess? You know we actually did have tablets Moses was selling them on the corner. Haha stone tablets. But Red Rover Red Rover send blank t blank right over parrot you have a Red Rover which is really neat.
Sometimes you just need to let go. In this case it has a much better chance of continuing life with a person familiar with the vehicle. Good choice.
Thanks Jacque. I agree.
Excellent video Richard :) also gear shifter 2 Align Key Hex screws one in front also back on shift handle on swivel were fluid break free and may want try get out clean rust on pivot arm plus swivel shaft arm to then grease up and Align Hex screws to keep from seized up again to! Also check with Mitsubishi dealers or Rock Auto get parts or any Aftermarket like Riley's Auto parts for parts you may have near you! I know Canadian Tire won't have it for you to get parts need! NAPA may have them in list on parts on computer and but not sure of hand you check with them! I not sure locations are but in 2009 remember hearing about company called Hot Spot Auto Parts Store and be worth checking out too they deal with lots Europeans vehicles like Datsun ( Nissan) also Honda of old classic vechiles and nice prices too !
Thanks for the tips Andrew!
@@whattherust Richard no problem anytime!
Another great video and great to see the sd1 again. The master cylinders are a pain, had a couple of range rover classics in the past here in the uk. Had probs with the master cylinder in one, like yourself rebuilt it but never lasted long, ended I suppose bit easier sourcing a new one as I'm in the uk. I see the seals came from rimmer brothers normally a good supplier of hard to get parts of good quality. Maybe the slight honing of cylinder didn't help as the tolerances are very tight. I realise why you did it and in a sense you had nothing to loose as seals would of worn quick or not sealed if you just rebuilt it.
It's a shame you have sold it as would of been great to see it move under its own steam, considering all the hard work you put into it but as you say its all a question of how much quality time you can spend on it.
Keep up the great work and look forward to seeing your next project.
Jasper swindon uk
Thank you Jasper. You're right, it comes down to time. Everything on this car takes a bit longer, because parts are tough to find and everything is all new to me. The hoses from Rimmers were great, but that rebuild kit wasn't. I really needed new springs, but none were included. I have fond memories of the car though. It was a privilege to work on it and to learn about it.
Marvel Mystery Oil is mostly made of Dex/Merc transmission fluid, so if you ever have some laying around, it works just as well as Marvel. I sold it for years. That is why it is red.
You are a brave man, I have a 1985 mark 2 Vitesse version which I have completely restored. I do have some leads to spare arts if you are interested.
I live in Phoenix
Thank you very much David. I ended up selling it to a Rover enthusiast in Tennessee.
Usually you can hit the end of the puller with the hammer it will shock it more.
you have made the right descion
Thansk Brett. It was a tough call but the right call.
Currently working on restoring one right now(in Ohio) but in much much better condition and was never stored for a day outside. I have yet to find a centimeter of rust but I've been replacing the fuel system as it sat for two years and only traveled 8000 miles since 1985.
You have to be savvy with jerry-rigging things and finding out-of-the-box solutions. It's funny you mention this not being a 56 Chevy, because it turns out the Filler neck for a 1947 Chevy is a direct fit. All the plastic bits have taken no time or money to repplace as I just design and 3d print them then paint if necessary.
That sounds like a great car. I would have liked to get mine roadworthy, but it was not in the cards. Good luck with yours!
There is a button under the auto control arm that you depress so you can move it out of park and into reverse, neutral drive.
Long time for me but is there a place for the button under the shift handle you push it in and slide to gear
reminded me of my 1994 q45 infinity when i was shopping for idle air control valve shopped all of usa and found only 1 in florida spent hrs searching for it
Right, finding rare parts takes a lot of time.
Rimmer bros here in the UK are specialist in these.
Some of them used the th350 others share the similar age jag xj6 box..
Eng is shared with similar age range rover Upto circa 1990 & the Morgan plus8.
British Leyland would use whatever parts came to hand that day from whatever source they could it was a miracle they made it through the 70's never mind the 80/90-s
I thought you would flip it. I agree you. Really time consuming. 👊💯👍
Probably some walnut and peanut shells crammed down there some where. Might have to burn them out.❤🐘🇺🇸I was just kidding about them shells. I'd Take it out in the driveway and pressure wash it out and lube it up with P.B. blaster.
This car is a good example of one of the major concerns with european cars manufacturers : a lack of normalization which is a result of too much competition between companies. There is a division inside the EU institutions in charge of solving this problem step by step, but it's taking ages because private companies are braking as much as they can, always in hope to become the only one that will have to make no change thus to have no costs for adapting production lines...
The brake shoes are positioned that way on big trucks, like dump trucks and such.
Right, that 1970 Chevy C50 I recued a while back had the brake shoes like that. Very interesting setup.
Shame you had to sell it but that's the way it goes sometimes. The guy you sold it to should know that there are several other brake master cylinders that will fit it with little to no mods.
I asked him about that. His thought was a booster and master from a MK 2 was the way to go. Those are still available, although pricey and a very tight fit to install.
It's electrolytic corrosion.
When you said you were going to be rebuilding the master cylinder, from experience, I was cynical. The issue is that, unlike US rebuild kits, the cups and seals on foreign rebuild kits are at Original tolerances, not oversized a few thousandths. Thus, if you hone the cylinder at all (or do anything but a very light scuff with wet/dry paper) you can't build pressure after re-assembly. I learned on Lockheed hydraulics with my 1967 MGB-GT back in 1976 and had the experience reinforced with Mercedes, Opel and VW OEM rebuild kits. But that was a good job on the reservoir especially considering what you had to work with.
That would explain a lot. It just would not build pressure, and the bore was scored, but I have seen worse work OK. The rebuild kit was very cheap though. As soon as I saw it I became worried.
@@whattherust - The foreign kits don’t include the pistons or retainers. Same for wheel cylinders. But they cost more than American kits that do. It’s disappointing at best.
I had a 2 Rover's when I was stationed in England. One was a six cylinder, there was no room to work on it and when I brought it to a shop they would open the hood, instantly shut it and tell me they would not work on it.
Wow, that is surprising given how popular they were in the UK. I can understand the mechanic's opinion though.
Hi Richard we had a car like that years ago but he don't last long because of so much problems
I can understand that. The car is more complex than it needs to be.
I see a bottle to drivers side, if you go to other side of the car you can see it,and it's rusty the gear shift
Nice rover I find for sale recently if you want one
It's a hard work to recover this particular Rover !
The time this car appeared was a kind of "revolution" for Rover because exterior design was so different, really modern.
I knew design of some internal components and selection of parts (quality) was poor.
Front circular lights and big bumpers are - from my point of view - not nice and affect original design however required by US laws / rules.
I forgot it and It could (first) not believe rear brakes are drum brakes 🙈.
Disk brakes are expected on this "modern" car !
Right, the bumpers are terrible. Had I kept the car I would have found a way to swap them.
Hi y’all from west Alabama
Hi Jamie! Thanks for watching.
Get ahold of Scott from cold war motors
I know this might be a far fetch here.... but isn't there anyway you could find a master cylinder that is similar if it bad?
I tried. There were two oddities with this one. The bolt spacing where it mounts is very narrow. So much so that every master I checked in a junkyard was much wider. The second is the outlets are on the opposite side of all of the British, German, and Japanese cars I compared. there is likely one that could have been adapted to fit, but I was not able to find it.
@@whattherust I think you made the right decision selling it. Hope to see updates on the car.
Why bother. Sorry, even when fixed an old UK POS. Love you and yours.
It has a charm to it. The longer I had it the more I liked it.
@@whattherust Always a great show and what matters is liking what you're doing because that always comes through. Keep it up.
Would a triumph have a similar master cylinder ?
I was hoping so, but nothing was close. I checked all the usual British makes, and came up empty.
You should keep this car,worth its weight in gold,plus change those ugly round headlamps to traditional rectanlgle headlamps👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Does the guy who bought it have a RUclips channel?
Not that I am aware of.
@@whattherust oh well, thanks for replying !
Check for the TVR (rover) v8 spares online....js
I hit like anyway.
Ever get a Land Rover to work on? Some guy bought a newer one at auction and had to bring in a Land Rover mechanic on site to fix the damn thing!?!?
As many times I have seen it, I will never understand why someone would park a perfectly good car and let it rot, rather than sell it, or at least keep it running.
Right, this happens a lot and there are many answers. I asked the owner's son why it was parked. He said his parents got too old to drive a car that small, so they bought a Lincoln and parked the Rover. The owner was fond of the car and just liked to have it close by.
I'm trying to help your alga rhythm by chatting. Does SD stand for Steaming Dump? ha ha
is their a link the how it is now ?
I don't believe so.
good choice let someone thats familiar with it have it at least you did not give upon what you did with it
Right on. The new owner is happy, and I am happy to have the space back. All good.
i know American cars got a bit of a reputation in the 80's for being badly made, would you say the Rover is as bad or worse?
Worse, because of the needless complexity and the electronics. There are relays everywhere, and weird parts like a mini odometer under the hood that trips a warning light when the car has a certain amount of miles on it. The UK versions were likely better.
Sounds like the brake booster is bad.
Surprised that you didn't buy a Haynes manual for it. Worth their weight in blood, sweat & tears... And I find it odd that you couldn't find a master cylinder. We have owners clubs that have hard to find parts re-manufactured. Oh, well. (Never liked that car anyway. Common as muck)... (Good series of videos, though. Just watched them all in one splurge). 👍
I had the UK verison fof the Haynes, but I don't recall the name. It was OK, but was lacking in some detail. Thanks for the support of the channel! Much appreciated.
Also Happy Thanksgiving Holiday Richard , Christine, also families & friends and RUclips Viewers to in USA! Yes fully understand get rid of Rover Richard :) also had 1972 Ford F350 extended cab pick up after restoration fully like new and original shape hate myself get rid of from Tow Truck used all life as then repaint colors before tow truck colors was upset but had move on ! Also last year had 2002 Chevrolet Impala E-X LTZ LS 4 door car fix up from been parts cars in 2005 then did want fix up till 2010 full done as sadly gave up last October 9 2021 to new owner! Also both vechile baby them so much yes was 2 owner of both but want something different do in vechile and attached to because truck my late Cousin Jerry truck from his business with girlfriend many ran together after both past away in 1990's I did what could with it! Car was late friend of mine and we built together also he told me never give up to nice ! Plus when got fix up on paint full dry and license for took over said let show it does and he said you go man Lol! Not stock motor, transmission or anything except one thing was rear view mirror only ! But when he past away in 2013 a week before he phone said glad getting prizes for car at vechile shows worth it eh and said sure had and glad one like gave for ideas to and motor also we built together on also much more also ! I know my late dad thought crazy did but was fun too on rebuilt! He dam straight buddy we should do another sometime Lol and I said we will ! I got blue prints to from son past to me how do them after his dad passed away ! But all ones done over years too had some wishes had be shop and storage to all fun vechile bring out April to October each one by one but never happened yet Lol! My job been Auto Mechanics and Restoration work job so many done and you say bet love it from day one and still today! I have done lots same vechile but in different colors too and some stock and others street legal!
Thanks Andrew. You have great sories of the past.
@@whattherust welcome and all true ones too on stories over years too!
I was watching a channel that restores a lot of cars there is a certain year dodge master cylinder the bolt pattern looks cllose
I tried a bunch, but the problem here was that the mounting bolts are very close together. Closer than any car I have seen before, and closer than anything I could find.
Look up the nitrosilvia channel from england,he has a video on the total rebuild of the sd1 v8 called the dotty project,you will love it,guaranteed👍👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Thanks for the tip!
Rick why don't you buy a cheap inline fuel pump to use for feeding engine, draining tanks etc. I know you love your funnel but it's OLD
Made of un-obtainium and worth nothing-tanium when it is done?
I wasn't sure, but once listed, the car sold quickly. There are more enthusiasts in the US than I had thought.
Same engine and same brake master cylinder as old range rover
I’ve got a Rover too! I’m here in Ocala, Florida… You can check it out on my Chanel if you get some time.
I will do that! Just subscribed.
@@whattherust awesome brother! I just uploaded a video of my buddy and I driving it around the block. I’ll sub to you as well!
Most British vehicles are a mechanic's nightmare!