Recording Nirvana's In Bloom (Butch Vig breaks it down...)
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2008
- www.MixMyMusic.net - Curious how they did it? Butch Vig deconstructs Nirvana's song "In Bloom". Awesome video of him behind the console in the studio soloing out sections of the song and talking about how they made the record. Tip of the hat to "Classic Albums".
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"How about some soft piano here, Kurt?"
"Butch we're a punk rock ba-"
"John Lennon did it."
"Okay fine."
Heres comes the “Nirvana isnt **insert genre** but actually **insert genre**
@@Cheezy_Bunz no, its not coming
Lol
Bassoon?
@@Cheezy_Bunz Nirvana isn't _catholic rap_ but actually _south african polca_
Hearing their voices together, isolated from all the instruments is so powerful. Hits you right in the guts.
kbertan Give me the entire track with just their vocals. 👍
kbertan it does. They sound awesome together
Sounds like someone got a little spongy listening to 2 men singing.
Very gay sounding statement.
Get it cos he had an unexplainable stomach ache
goddamm it... the way kurt and dave's voice mix gives me the chills
DITTO double tracked on that one
That was awesome
I got a boner
yah
chills=demons
Hearing that Dave was singing this I can imagine the Foo Fighters doing an awesome version. Kurt and Dave sound awesome singing together
I can't believe I saw you here.
The Foo Fighters don't have Kurt singing.
It would be crap.
Nah. Foo fighters are blah. Without Kurt it would sound like trash
Can’t please everyone, if they sounded like they used to people would say (just like they did when they first came out) they’re just a Nirvana clone, then they do their own thing and it’s just bland lol damned if you do or don’t.
Butch : "John Lennon did it"
Kurdt : "Ok"
lol ikr ... just a display of the respect and adoration he had for Lennon
Kurt is soo cute
why are you guys spelling "Kurt" "KurDt" ???
bc kurt liked to spell it like that sometimes himself
*helio c* well I didn't know that, thank you (:
2:10 The way the instruments kick in while Kurt and Dave are singing the song a capella is SO GOOD!
Butch: alright were looping for the 7th time.
Kurt: I swear to-
Butch: john Lennon did it.
Kurt: oh cool.
Kurt: I'm not sure if I'd like to die from a bullet wound.
Butch: John Lennon did it.
Kurt: *Picks up shotgun*
@@spinoza3673 too soon
@@spinoza3673 🤣🤣🤣 I love this
Butch: So we're dumping the album and recording you doing Mongolian throat singing.
Kurt: you got to be kidding m...
Butch: Lennon did it
Kurt: sweet.
never knew Dave sang with Kurt on the track :O
Ellis Sinnott dave also sang on a song called " marygold"and kurt played the drums
Station 2 dave
Sang in almost every song on nevermind
Wardo Melena true that but in the song marygold they switch roles completely, the song sounds like a foo fighter song
Station 2 yeah i know that song i thinks is just more like a dave song because of that sound like a ff song because you know ff are basically dave
Wardo Melena yup
Omg the isolated vocals
I never really noticed Dave's voice in this song before, but now after watching this I can't help but hear his voice every time I listen to this song lol, but it's true they're voices really do sound great together.
He’s practically screaming to get his voice up that high. I didn’t even realize that was on the track but now I listen for it every time.
One of the best choruses ever.
When in doubt double it!!
actually, it's intentionally made to give that sort of feeling, it goes with the song's lyrics. and it's, uh... basically an insult to almost everyone listening to it. kurt was kind of a dick.
drumtravelfun best ever ? you definitely need to listen to more music.
+Tim
Start him off with Beethoven. : )
What lol
It's all about the double tracked vocals. Butch was very smart to goad Kurt with the Lennon reference. Even though Nirvana hated the sound of this record for being too polished, Butch and Andy Wallace (Mixer) made it feel massive and extraordinarily powerful.
Yeah, most people just dont think about the producer role on this album, they had the songs with good hooks and stuff but he made them sound amazing.
"better" is subjective. Congrats, you just stated an opinion.
In Utero is THE Nirvana sound IMO. But you can't deny how huge those drums sounded in "Nevermind".
That’s the shit they said in interviews. I know what sound they did like though CHA-CHING!!! Polish that.
skunkproductionsMLA it’s all about the beginning in Breed
Butch: We’re going to add some fart noises during the verse.
Kurt: you got to be kidding m...
Butch: Lennon did it
Kurt: sweet.
Kurt loved the Butthole Surfers so he'd probably be into it
❤😂😂😂😂❤
And people, stfu about Butch 'manipulating'. It's clear to me that one of the reasons Nirvana achieved commercial success and reached far more people was due to the album being well mixed and well produced.
Some of you people are acting as if it's a crime to produce an album well.
GET OVER IT
Yes...fabulous band, but the world bought it because it was gift wrapped perfectly...the production matters
why can't i press 'read more'
kurt liked his stuff to be made exactly the way he liked it though. you could say this isn’t really nirvana, but the way butch wanted it to be
Bob Rock over produced the Black Album too against what Metallica was used to and it turned out to be their best commercially successful album!
Vig is a living legend. He did tons of magnificent work and so few people even heard of him.
1:07 Dave's voice is incredible!
He definitely brought more than drums to the band. Chad was a good drummer, but Dave brought more firepower.
well he went on to be a pretty successful vocalist...
Who knew
Still no matching the Staley-Cantrell duo though.
He sounds like the guy from foo fighters
I must have watched this 100 times over the years. Dave and Kurt's voices together are fucking epic!
I love when they dissect tunes using the board. In most recordings there are almost always things you had no idea were there.
Yeah. Did you ever hear the female vocal on Everlong that was recorded down the telephone? It's barely noticeable on the record
This album is a production master piece. It was beautifully mixed and still sounds amazing today.
1:18, I had no idea the lyrics were “knows not what it means” I thought it was “don’t know what it means” this whole time!
Me to James see you learn something new everyday !!!
James I guess you could say you
Didn’t know what it meant
Yeah and you’ll never hear it the same way again.
That's what triple vocal tracks do to lyrics man.
@@simoncenteno2755 That's what Kurt does to lyrics. John Lennon can double-track and harmonize at the time.
Greatest producer of all time. Nevermind and Siamese Dream are two of the greatest sounding albums ever, so much comes down to Butch.
Hearing those vocals isolated is something we all needed in our lives
In Bloom...still my favorite Nirvana song.
and lounge act, lithium & aneurysm in 2018
I love how this song has vocal harmonies and vocal doubling when one of the lines in the chorus is about liking to sing along.
Dave: *plays crazy fill*
Also Dave: "I didn't throw a bunch of drum fills in there."
Speaking from a drummers pov here it's not to complex of a fill and it's quite tasty and it serves the song well
Always thought Dave was playing Chad channing's drums on in bloom since they had the song before he joined.
For real, the whole song is drum fills.
1:06: Whoah- 1) Never knew that Dave sang alongside Kurt ever, in a way being the Jerry Cantrell to Kurt's Layne Staley in a way (though here, it's Kurt that's singing at the baritone register). 2) Ah- Dave singing before Foo Fighters! 3) Love the sketchy effect that the isolated tracks provide- inspirational in a way, makes me feel pumped up about recording something of my own! This is a gem of a video with tremendous value- thanks!
0:33 [[[drum fill]]]
0:35 "i didn't throw a bunch of drum fills in there..."
There's people out there who do it over the top haha, Grohl doesn't though
He said throw a bunch. That was one :D
Tom Faron tom hits...but whatevs. and btw, i was only fucking around with my original comment.
Tom Faron ah, i stand corrected. funny, i never noticed the difference between the first pass earlier that has snare with toms. you're right, it's all snare there.
It was actually Chad Channing that created the drum track for this song, it was arranged before Dave was in the band. He basically played what Chad had arranged.
I think it's amazing how they put songs together
Cindy Cox
Right?
when it’s just Kurt and Dave. that’s the most beautiful sound i’ve ever heard
This is my fav nirvana song fuk they did a good job with production on that album... feels fresh today as it did in 91
Dave and Kurt singing together is AWESOME!
This gives me chills.
I could watch shit like this all day everyday.
Kurt and Dave’s voices were made to harmonise together!! Epic as fuk!! Modern day McCartney Lennon!!!
Just a blanket statement to prevent more dumb comments:
Nevermind was recorded onto 2" tape. Not Pro Tools.
In 1991, Pro Tools was in it's 1.0 version and had only 4 tracks and cost $6000.00. Few people were using it yet.
Butch took each track stem from the tapes and dumped them into ProTools for this documentary. Troll on.
Mike Patton Is it really you Mike
Mike Patton I am pretty sure he used PT for editing though. Or something digital. It was for sure recorded on tape but for how accurate the vocals are I am sure they did editing (And there was one song... I think it was drain you... Where you can actually hear the tone of the vocals change just slightly... Like it wasn't the original. Or if they did use the editing block and cut and taped it then the guy who did it has a pretty steady hand...)
It was actually Andy Wallace who mixed it and Andy used Atari sampling software to punch up the snare and kick on a few songs and also a few backup vox.
Oh okay. But yea it sounds to me like it was edited digitally and not on tape. Recorded on tape yes but not edited.
N617A The album would not have been released until 1999 if they had done the editing digitally back then. rendering ONE track of a 5 minute song could take HOURS back then.
I always loved the harmonic dynamic between them both. Especially in Drain You.
Their backing singer sounds like the foo fighters singer. He should definitely start up a tribute band or something
Joel's Stuff I hope this is a joke
I'm pretty sure it is tbh
He looks like the Foo Fighters guy too. OMG
Hehehe
It is, come on. Look up I’ll stick around.
God I hope this is a joke. The drummer of nirvana Dave Grohl started foo fighters after Kurt died.
Dave playing drums and singing along with Kurt playing guitar, it doesn't get much better than that!!! Nirvana ruled
Kurt and Dave's harmonising was underrated
They sold 80 million albums, hardly underrated.
@@Kenziegh Did I say Nirvana was underrated, smart man? lol
They only compares to Lennon / McCartney harmonies.
i get chills whenever they play the harmonies with Dave and Kurt
Nirvanas sound is so fresh and timeless
I just assumed the higher harmony was Kurt. I know Dave did harmonies in other songs but didn’t know in this song too. Damn that’s reminiscent of Jerry and Layne. Kurt and Dave are a beautiful combo 🖤🖤🖤 Thanks for the insight Butch
Same here. It wasn’t until I saw this segment of classic albums that Dave actually sang on several tracks? I don’t remember if he was credited on the album sleeve or not?
one of the coolest catchiest backing harmonies ever tbh
Wow, Dave sounds so good. He really should consider making a band.
The "polish" on this entire album helped it form that mythical bridge from punk (my music at the time) to heavy metal (which I said I hated but secretly loved). Here was an honest and heavy sound that had massive hooks, a plain fashion aesthetic, and was just great songwriting. I was stunned when I heard this album at 21 years of age. When I heard "Teen Spirit" on KROQ in Los Angeles, I thought, "This isn't Rodney on the Roq late at night. Why are they playing this stuff?"
Beautiful moment, thank you
2:10 That sounds HEAVENLY!
I actually like how Krist's bass part sounds a bit on the flatter side of the notes he's playing, it tends to give the whole thing a weird "pitch-bent electric current" feel. Don't know if anyone hears it the way I do, though.
I thought the same thing!
I know exactly what you mean. It's probably the chorus effect that Andy Wallace, who mixed loads of huge 90s rock records, famously put on the bass. Quite exaggerated in solo isn't it?
totally bro! and why loads of old dub reggae basslines sound interesting due to cheap badly intonated instruments or ones with inherent design limitations ...Beatles Hofner bass detunes higher up neck you which why Pauls basslines sound so special.... .... ..... when youre listening high.....
Thank you so much Butch Vig!! You help The greatest Artist ever to gave us the best album of all time !
Agreed
Seeing the behind the scenes of this is quite possibly the coolest thing I’ve ever seen
Butch: “John Lennon did it”
Kurt: Yes
It's beautiful 😢
Can’t believe Kurt died before I was even born. This music has been around for so long now but it never gets old
Gotta love Kurt and Dave's voices together. An amazing blend. It's amazing how similar they are.
One of the best records of all-time
The drumming of 'In Bloom' is mostly copied from what Chad Channing did.
Dave Grohl himself has admitted that.
+Ratelzwatel chad channings version sucks compared to daves
CM96 that not make sense chad create the drum beat dave just make it more solid
CM96 Chad never did in bloom he did polly
@@bt3743 Chad did In Bloom in 1990. ruclips.net/video/xAy---wp_DQ/видео.html
C Tambling he did in bloom and it’s trash. I don’t even like the song at all with him on drums
In bloom is such a fucking cool tune i love Nirvana’s sense of dynamics
my all time fav nirvana song🖤
damn their voices sound great together on their own! And that's some top note that Dave hits, two excellent singers :)
Love these videos
Cannot express how much I love this deconstruction
Beautiful ..i love Nirvana 4 ever🔝🔝🔝♥️♥️♥️😍😍
Id love to know what Kurt and Krist thought when they heard/discovered Dave had such a great voice. That's a proper high harmony that Kurt probably couldn't get near. Surprised Dave's voice want utilised more. Especially on the records. Pat smear did a good job live to be fair. But harder to do harmonies while banging the drums as opposed to playing guitar. And we all know how good a singer Dave is now. Mad isn't it.
Sir yes sir.
as much as i hate dave after the past few years, his vocals were WAY better than Pats
butch and also his band are such awesome guys. GO Madison
Oh wow. Look at this gem of a video!!
This is amazing to see what was going through butch's mind while mixing the song.
Thanks for posting this!
Love watching these clips of Butch breaking down each song. Esp drain you and something in the way (so soft and minimal). Amazing to get insight into the songs came together...
In Bloom can be defined as one of their most defining songs. Heavy and plush at the same time with Kurts penchant for using biological references to tell his story.
I know people say Lithium is the quintessential Nirvana song, but really to me at least it In Bloom. It's heavy, catchy, goes through every dynamic they use in their music, and Kurt's best solo.
Wow, so much respect for Kurt singing each and every vocal on Nevermind twice with such perfection and quality...And hats off to Butch, otherwise the record would've sounded like another Fecal Matter tape...
CRUZ3 No it wouldn't. That makes no sense. The fecal matter tape was never even recorded in a studio.
RebelThoughts82 I was just slighting at what it could've sounded like, regardless if it were recorded in a studio or not. I guess if you want a better example, I would say "Bleach". Just listen to the "In Bloom" alternative version to get a better idea. Although the drummers were different, Butch did play a significant role to make Nirvana more pop-friendly and refined to reach a wider audience.
CRUZ3 That had nothing to do with Butch. Had more to do with Kurt's songwriting.
+CRUZ3
Don't forget Andy Wallace, who did the mix.
The rejected Vig mix sounds much like being another 'Bleach'.
CRUZ3 What would be so bad about another bleach?
legendary stuff by legendary artists
Excellent Butch Big!
Whether you liked Nirvana or not, they were a powerful force in music, and just a 3-piece!
This helps enjoy the song more
This looks like so much fucking fun
I’m so pumped up watching this...
This video made love the song even more!!!
I like how Butch breaks down the specifics of the tracks. Not a lot of people can do that.
Butchs work in Nervermind is amazing.
The harmonies in in bloom are one of the best in music history
@MorbidManMusic A doubled vocal of the same note is done by almost every band in existence, lol. How is that a Beatle ripoff?
Oh man....that was spine tingling...the actual tracks !!
Brilliant. Brilliant.
Brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant.
John Lennon did it
Ok
That's what I tell myself before doing lsd
Did what ? Shoot himself when he had a baby to care for? No, Lennon was gunned down. And that’s where the “similarities end“ John Lennon left a legacy of varied , lyrically and musically meaningful catalog. I’m sorry Rape Me and grandma take me home over and over is just rubbish. KC had 2 great songs on nevermind. He’s a self important asshole propped up by a mob of misfits (goth fat chicks). But he reacted to Vigs ploy because tha4t asshole actually believed he was ina qt4he same league as Mr. and Jojn Lennon. Unless we mean Sean Lennon the. Yes he’s right up therewithLennon. Sean.
@@Akard517hell lmaoooooo
@@timothyh6670 But Lennon like beat Cynthia and Yoko and emotionally abused Julian. Sure through Kurts Suicide he was absent, but Lennon was the source of the strife and dysfunction.
Many say Nevermind was overproduced. Bullshit. Vig captured both their tunefulness and aggression. Cobain complained it didn’t sound punk enough. Well you can’t have it all.
I think you can, this is how a punk band should sound in 1991. I thought it was Scream, when I first heard and saw them on video. The drumming was so similar to them due to Dave Grohl.
I never really viewed it as punk album, but that's okay. The punk attitude is still there in places. I think Butch is probably the only person that could have captured their sound the way he did at the time. The band didn't really sound this way live, but that was another cool thing altogether. You knew seeing them live wasn't going to be like pressing play on the CD.
Kurt didn't know what he wanted. He wanted a pure punk album, but then when In Utero was recorded, he sends it over to Scott Litt to remix some songs to make them more pop. I do think that Nevermind was indeed too polished in certain spots, but it's the album that put them over the top, so who am I to argue.
I think a lot of the songs on nevermind are just more pop than something like in utero. Even the hits on IU aren’t pop.
Wow! Thank you for the upload.
Well done butch. Sounds so fucking great.
I always used to sing “don’t know what it means” know I’ve realised the actual lyric “knows not what it means” which has just made the song even cooler! Love this song as it reminds me of the 90s with my best mates driving into the sticks and smoking weed. Fantastic album and fantastic band 👌 And I was singing it wrong all the time 😂😂😂
I've always loved double tracked vox....
I can’t unhear that
I got this DVD for my birthday one year and I cried all the way through it.
0:20. Boys and girls, this is what is known as a 'groove'. This is one of the best 'grooves' you will ever hear.
Edit: I was like 13 when I made this comment please leave me alone lmao... it is still a damn good groove though
Sam GW krist had amazing groove bass line in all the songs
Or any Primus song if 90s is your thing
It's good, it's not "the best groove you'll ever hear" that's just ridiculous hyperbole
Nah... groove = ruclips.net/video/pr-PerIbEpY/видео.html
Best groove We will ever hear? . Speak for yourself Nostradamus. Wtf with all delusional Nirvana worshipping. Another guy who identifies way too much with a weak asshole who killed himself like 10 minutes after he fathered a daughter. just say he was talented or even great but best ever statements are akin to wearing I’m a nut job sign.”
Que maravilloso suena cuando cantan juntos.
Magnificent indeed old friend
These are great... awesome to hear these and the story of the songs put to record
It's.. weird to hear his voice alone. You can hear the angst and feeling in his voice...
As for the voice doubling technique, it makes a lot of sense... two voices are always stronger than one, and it gives a great power.
And it's awesome to know Kurt was such a big fan of Lennon. R.I.P., the both of them.
Behind "Drain You", "In Bloom" is my second favorite song from the Nevermind Album!!! I
I'm amazed at these great producers.
These break downs of the songs are fascinating! ^_^
@1:11 that’s one thing I always wanted Kurt and Dave singing a song together, it may not be what I imagined but I’ll take it.
Now I wanna start a rockband
1:17 listen to when he puts the instruments back in after the isolated voices that’s so cool
I come back to this video a lot. Butch Vig sets the bar so high for me.
Thank you for this.
This is a true treasure!
Kurt doesn't strike me as a perfectionist yet the harmony he does with himself is so spot on it's almost leading to noise cancellation/phasing. Interesting.