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Porsche 996 ignition switch install
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Replacement of a Porsche 996 Original ignition switch. Part Number 4A0-905-849-B-M56 Be aware that at some point Porsche changed out the ignition unit for a new one with a different part number.
helpful DIY instructions: www.gagme.com/greg/996/ignition
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Just replaced mine this morning with the aid of your video. I had a complete failure. Removed the key and the key wouldn't go back in. The car was in "unsafe" mode to make things worse ( convertible top down, windows down, wheels locked ). As chance would have it, it failed in my garage.
Took me 2 hours to remove those set screws. Very little space to work in behind the dash.
I ended up building a 1" long screwdriver with a power drill bit and an 1/4" socket adapter that I wrapped in duct tape and some 22 gauge wire for grip. It worked well. Putting the replacement ignition switch in only took 30 minutes. For $10 I'm back in business now. Thanks for the video!
Glad you were able to get it changed out and that it was in your garage when it failed! Those screws are a major pain in the butt for sure!
Hi, just done my switch on my 986 Boxster here in the UK, without your video I would of struggled so thanks for that. I went through the vent like you but managed to get both screws. I removed the phillips screw on vent pipe and took the pipe out . Thanks again. Hope this helps someone else.
Thank you Kevin, glad it was helpful. Not a hard job,, but definitely a bit of a pain. Enjoy your car! cheers
Just did this last night. Mine's a RHD UK car. The difference is, those mini screws are accessible only from the TOP, so it's impossible to reach from the pedal area. I HAD to go through the side vent for all the unscrewing and rescrewing. Unplugging the purple connector and the ignition switch removal and reinstall was done from the pedal area with a bit of hand jiujitsu. Could not see any other way. This video was a huge help!
Great to hear and congrats on a simple yet difficult job. You definitely need some flexibility to get it finished up. Have fun with the car.
Rick - thanks a TON for your well executed video on how to replace a faulty ignition switch module on my 2001 996. You saved me an incredible amount of diagnosis and learning (trial and error) time; I am very grateful to you! Regards...Tom
Tom, thank you very much! Happy to hear the video was helpful and hopefully your car is back and ready to go. Cheers.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video and upload. Had all the same issues ,this video was fantasic help in removing and refitting the new switch...great job
That is great to hear. Awesome to hear that the video was helpful! Cheers
Thanks for this. I had to do my 2002 996 C4 convertible today as was suffering all sorts of issues (centre consol stopped working - no heated seats, hood down, ear mirror demist etc - , key not removed warning, key sticking) and it fixed all. As I'm UK the car is right hand drive and the screws holding the ingnition switch in place actually face upwards. Taking the side vent off is essential and made the task so easy - I could do it almost all form the compfort of my seat! Thanks again Rick.
You are welcome and happy to hear it went well! Happy driving.
Good video Rick & thanks for sharing your DIY fix; I already have my spare ignition switch ready in case my '00 996 cab switch fails as well, but so far so good. Thanks again! Cheers...
Thank you so much for watching! My pleasure to help out in anyway. Best of luck with your 996...such great cars despite their issues.
Thank you very much. It helped me. I just followed up your video with your clear line by line instruction.
Glad it helped! Cheers.
Thanks for this vid. I've read loads of reports of people successfully removing the screws by going under the footwell, but no matter how hard I tried, just couldn't get the back one off. Was about to give up before I watched this. Removed the light switch and vent cover as suggested and there was loads of room to then get in and remove from above. Mines a RHD UK spec 996 so perhaps mounted slightly differently.
Very happy to hear it was helpful! Cheers
Down on my luck and unemploymented. Really appreciate your video.
Very helpful video. Removing the vent/headlamp switch trim assembly was simple and rendered the job quite easy. I definitely suggest that the air duct directly behind the headlight switch be completely removed (it nearly falls out onto the footwell). A 2" or 3" long common screwdriver would have been a nice tool to have. Next time; if there ever is a next time! Thanks for posting this instructional video.
HI Joe, glad it was helpful. A bit of a pain to contort yourself down in the footwell, but not too terrible. Fingers crossed there isn't a next time for either of us. :) Cheers.
Thank you rick for this diy instruction!
You are welcome Randy, I am glad it was helpful! Cheers
Great video Im attempting this tomorrow. Many thanks
Awesome. Thank you and good luck with the install. It is pretty cramped in there, but not a bad job at all.
Fabulous DIY video on the 996 ignition switch. This is the second time I had to do this on my 2000 C4. I think the cheap part varies in quality and my switch got stuck when trying to start, forced the issue, and broke some plastic around the spring when turning, forcing back left. But the big improvement in doing this job was you suggesting to remove the left air vent apparatus, which gave me much more access. In fact I removed that back vent too with the philips screw completely and I could almost do the job on the top and not have to crawl under the God forsaken kiss the underside of the dash situation while arching my 68 year old back beyond norms, ouch. I could get one arm under neath while sitting in the seat and my left hand thru the vent hole, thus getting much more leverage. Thank you!
Ha ha. :) " Under the God forsaken kiss the underside of the dash situation...." That made me laugh out loud! I feel your pain...crawling under the steering wheel multiple times was not fun. Thank you for taking the time to let me know the video was helpful! Means the world to me and keeps me motivated to keep trying to put out helpful and fun content. Glad you got her going again. Thankfully mine is still working well, but I think my left front window regulator is getting ready to fail. :(
@@AZdroptop And yes, been there done that. I knew my right side window regulator had a problem when one day the window just fell down within the door. There is a good diy on replacing. On mine the cable frayed until it just broke. The Chinese part I purchased via Pelican I think was better made than the original. Went together pretty smooth, tricky part is adjusting so it seals closed. Taking the door panel apart, many screws, careful with leather, and clips. Good luck. Thanks again for ignition switch instruction..... so if Porsche charges $1200 to do the job.... I can get work on this for $600 and do it in 30 minutes. Ha ha.
Great to know thank you! My driver's side died last year and I had my Mechanic in Phoenix do it for me since he had the car for some other stuff. The big pain was when the Passenger side small regulator went out....The part alone is $800. Crazy stuff. I guess because it works with the top or something? Not sure, but it was a big heavy part for such a small window. Thank you Porsche tax. ha ha. Thank you again for the kind words and best of luck with your car. Despite the little problems I sure love this thing. Great fun to drive. Have a nice weekend.
@@AZdroptop My 996 is a Millennium edition. I am the second owner, but purchased it with 5000 miles in 2000 for $100,000. Crazy. Yes, it was my mid life crisis but I also always wanted to own a 911. I love this car still, never get tired of it. Despite the under value of 996s on the market, we 996 owners know how much they are really worth. My brother in law has a 993 worth about $130K, and I don't like it, I don't like driving it, but it's market value is huge. Go figure. I love your video on the features of your 996 too.... good stuff. Eventually the market values will start to really go higher I'm convinced. Keep doing those videos you're good at it and people appreciate them.
Wow! Awesome. The millennium edition is beautiful and it is awesome that you have owned it so long. Great to hear you still love the car. I have not had an opportunity to drive a 993 as of yet...they are nice looking cars, but the 996 is quicker, handles better etc. they just get a bad rap because of the headlights and IMSB. Thank you for the kind words on the videos and thanks again for the watching along. Enjoy!
Thank you for the video it is really helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. took me about an hour all in, messing about trying not to take the duct and vent out first! As you say just take it out is easier as you can see what you are doing. Why they didn't just make it a clip or have the screws accessible from the bottom is beyond me.
Thank you Phil. Glad it went well for you. Porsche definitely overthinks a few things here and there.
It helped me a lot. Thanks
Excellent. You are welcome.
I may have to do mine . Its firm while I am turning it . Thinking removing the driver seat may give me more room and be easier on my back . I would try and leave corner air duct in place. We'll see
It is a little tricky getting in there for sure. Honestly the best thing I did was remove the air duct. Before that I could not get the screwdriver, my arm, and the darn small screw all lined up to get any turning pressure on the screw. Thankfully overall it was a cheap and easy fix. Let me know if I can help.
Good video, thanks.
Glad you liked it and thank you!
Thanks!
well done video
Edwin, thank you very much! Hope it was helpful
I will be changing my 986 ignition in the next week, and was weighing removing side vent or just going under dash -- think I'll remove it now. Thanks for vid.
Ah very cool. Defiantly worth taking the time to remove the vent tube. I just could not get to it otherwise. Good luck!
Yep I've done it twice using a $14 VW/Audi part # 4A0 905 849 B+ a tiny eyeglass screw driver. Dealer wanted $1200 to replace the whole cylinder. My back still hurts LOL.
Amen brother.😃. Pain in the butt little part to get to. It’s nice that we can work on these cars though. Cheers
I feel your pain, literally. Pain is less when you realize how much you saved, not to mention the satisfaction. Congrats.
Ajudou muito meu amigo!!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Bom saber, obrigado por assistir.
Thanks Rick, I'll need to do this on my 99 C4 Convertible today. Similar symptoms, most probably same fix. Will update you all on the process, challenges and results. BR Maarten
Good luck! It isn't too bad overall...just really cramped down there. :)
@@AZdroptop I checked this afternoon, and with your clear instructions, I was able to do it within approximately 30 minutes. The main problem is the fact (like you said) that it is really really cramped in there and that the screws are difficult to see and reach even with a small flat short screwdriver. I succeeded though by removing the air vents and left front cover and by adding some artificial light in there to light up the obscured place. Then, even in this very tight space the two screws came loose and the multi-pin ignition connector as well. Just ensure that you don't screw the screws out all together because for one that's not needed to loosen the connector AND also it would be a PITA to get them back in. I've ordered generic VW/Audi/Porsche part 4A0905849 through my Porsche part seller locally here in the Netherlands, so that I can finalize this repair. Oh, almost forgot,in my case, there was another screw behind the black light knob that held the cover in place to the main dashboard. That needed to be removed as well and then the cover came off pretty easily. ANyway, thanks for your excellent help and video, this made my job sooooo much easier :-))
Very cool! Nicely done.
@@AZdroptop Quick reponse: The car is now in the workshop for some other stuff. For now the key was working (applied some contact spray to avoid problems on short notice). Replacement parts are underway from Team Parts NL, my preferred Porsche Parts supplier. I expect to be able to finalize the ignition switch repair sometime next week or weekend and let you know the result.
Hi Rick, hi all, finally finalized this project. I initially received the wrong part which really didn't fit (the cylinder of the replacement part was much wider towards the top). Then Team Parts NL located and sent (for free, thanks guys !) the correct replacement part, which I fitted succesfully yesterday. As a result, no more issues, the key turns smoothly and everything switches off and on as the key is removed or inserted.
Instructions are perfect.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much
You're most welcome
So the lock assembly doesn't need to be replaced as well? I will be good with just changing out the switch? I plan on taking it apart this weekend just to make sure of what part I need. I have a 2002 C4S. I will check back with my results. Thanks for the video and I hope my issues is the same simple fix.
Hi Chester, I’m not sure what symptoms you have specifically, but in all likelihood it is just the switch. It can cause all kinds of weird symptoms. Best of luck to you and thank you for watching
Hey Rick! Great video! Just wondering if you had to transfer the actual key barrel or did you get new keys with the new lock mechanism?
Actually the key and everything stays the same. I only had to switch out the electrical "switch" Cheap and kind of easy job. :) Crawling under the seat wasn't too fun lol.
Hi
Thanks for the video!
Having some trouble with mine on a 996 Turbo, does the cylinder come with new keys or can you use your old ones?
Kasper, sorry for my slow response, youtube is not showing comments in the new studio view like they used to. No new keys needed, your old ones will work fine.
@@AZdroptop Thanks for getting back, did they switch already(Pain in the ass) but got it done!
Good job on the video, I really liked your intro oddly enough, I think I need to do some intro's on my videos to make them better. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Clint! I really wanted to use that footage where I was coming down in the drone and it looked like the snow was flying up... :) Couldn't figure out anywhere else to put it. Cheers.
My 996 says its empty and the key wont come out so if I change that peice u think it should cure both?
Empty as in fuel? Not sure about hat, but it should cure your key issue for sure.
Hi Rick. Any tips for releasing a 996 key that is actually stuck in the ignition?
I don't know off hand, mine finally came out with a little wiggle. I am guessing your switch is bad.
hello Rick my 2002 996 turbo key out of ignition but dispaly showing remove key out of ignition and i cant insert key into ignition, tumbler locked out
Sounds like it could be the ignition switch. Thankfully an inexpensive fix!
Rick, I'm almost there but got hung up removing the vent assembly. It won't budge after I removed the 2 side torx screws, the bolt holding the light switch and the torx screw next to it. It feels like there's another screw or something holding it. Any suggestions?
Sorry you are having trouble with it. There should only be the 2 screws on the side, the light switch knob, and the screw inside the light switch "hole" I do remember it being a bit tight to wiggle off, but I can not remember anything else that you need to remove? Hopefully you have been able to get it off. This thread might help also. www.renntech.org/topic/220-remove-driver-side-air-vent/
How many mechanical keys do we get while replacing the ignition switch ?
Thankyou
Hi Vicky, with this change you keep your same keys. If you go through the Porsche dealer and change out the actual mechanism it may be different.
Rick....are you in the Chicagoland area?......In the spring I'm going to tackle this job. I plan on first trying from underneath but if that fails then I'll try the vent removal from the top. A question....can both screws be removed from the top vent access or just one of the two? Next question: IF you're in the Chicagoland area are u interested in being "hired" to do the job on my 98' Boxster?.....LOL (half way serious)
Hi R W, I have family in the Chicagoland area and my dad was originally from Mayfield, but I am in Arizona. Would be happy to help out if I were close. It has been awhile since I have done this job so would you mind shooting me an email and describe which screws you mean exactly. :) My brain is not recalling currently. If I remember correctly removing the upper vent just gives more room down below to get to the really pain in the butt screws that are in the actually part you need to remove. Some can do it with out taking that vent tube off, but I could not for the lift of me get them out without the extra room. azdroptopyt@cox.net Cheers.
I saw one comment on another site that after installing the ignition switch, the car would not start. They removed the switch, made sure the switch was rotated to “position zero” and put it back in. The 996 then started. Since my switch has gone bad, it seemed I had to turn it farther counter clockwise to turn off the ignition and get the key out. Is there a position on the new switch I will need to be careful to rotate to? Again, if I have missed something in your video, I apologize. Thanks for your series of videos.
Hey Patrick, if I remember correctly it can only go in one way so I don't remember it being an issue? I will rewatch it and see if something comes to mind.
Hi again Patrick, check out around 7:30 in the video if you haven't yet. It shows how the part goes back in and you should be good. I did that video quite some time ago and I am sorry for the poor camera work...hopefully it will be helpful. Cheers.
Does the key automatically mate to the tumblers when first installed?
Great video. Thanks.
HI Dennis, I am not sure to be honest since I have not replaced the tumblers, just the small electronic part that tells the car where the key is in the rotation. At least that is what I think it does. :)
Rick Hutton 0h, it looked like you replaced the part where you inserted the key. Thats what I’m having trouble with. 2003 Carrera.
Dennis, no, just the small electronic part sorry. What's going on with yours?
Rick Hutton
At first, after starting I had to snick the key to the left to get accessories powered. It has progressed to the key being difficult to insert and remove. Which I’m told is the phase just prior to total failure where the key will not come out. And the repair expense goes up exponentially. So, sadly, the car is not being used at the moment.
Dennis, that is pretty much the same issue I had and I would bet that you just need the same part I replaced. Sounds crazy I know...I was pretty unsure when I changed mine out that it was my problem. Turns out it was. It is a very common failure piece and although a bit of a pain to change out, is pretty cheap. When mine started going bad the car would sometimes stay running when you turned the key to off, then It got stuck. I would give it a shot. Buy the part with the part number in the video, not the super cheap one that some places sell. I hear they go bad really quickly and you don't want to have to repeat the job anytime soon.
WOW
Just want to ask the problem with key not going in lock cylinder is related to the ignition switch not the lock cylinder?
Correct. In my case it was and it seems to be a common problem. Mine got stuck inside a couple of times and would could turn, but the car didn't know where the key was. Cheap and easy fix other than the lack of room under there.
@@AZdroptop thanks
What are the symptoms you were exhibiting that caused you to believe this needed to be done? I may be having a similar problem with my 986. Sometimes when I pull the key out it's still registers that the key is in the ignition. There's a little message on the display that says the key has not been removed even though it has. Then today the key got stuck and would not come out. Some playing with it and wiggling I finally was able to get it to come out but I am not sure why that happened. Not even sure the two things are related. And thirdly not sure if this is the same problem you were having
HI Michael, basically it began to be difficult to turn the key and then sometimes I would turn the key to the off position and the car would still think the key was turned to on. It would also get stuck like you mentioned. My guess is it is the same little switch. A bit of a pain to change out because of room, but the part isn't expensive and not all that bad to change.
Screws clockwise to tight and opp to loose?
HI Joe, it has been awhile, but I believe they were normal threads so yes on the Tighten = Clockwise.
Could you provide the part number of the switch? I have a 2001 911 Turbo. Thanks for the excellent video.
HI Patrick, thanks for watching. The part number was in the description. :) Here it is. Should be the same as mine, but I would double check just to make sure. Cheers. Part Number 4A0-905-849-B-M56
Rick Hutton Thanks! Sorry I missed it. I’m a bit new to this. Future project - headlamp switch.
No worries at all. Happy to help however I can.
Unfortunately I completed the part change and it did not fix the ignition. I noted when I attempted to insert the part it would not sit flush. I was able to finally get it flush by rotating the part but the key did not function. The other piece of information is that I was never able to turn off the car except when disconnecting the battery. Any thoughts?
Sorry to hear that. When you say you couldn't turn off the car, do you mean the key would rotate to the off position, but the car would keep running? Did the key come out and the car would keep running? I'm going to look around and see if I can find something for you. azdroptopty@cox.net
The one thing I would make sure of is that the part is installed correctly. Sounds like you have it in right, but might be worth a second look.
Check out this thread. www.6speedonline.com/forums/996/412001-replace-ignition-switch-but-now-my-996-won-t-start.html
Hope it will help!
Where did you get the part?
You know it has been quite a long time so I don't honestly remember. Here is the part number:4A0-905-849-B-M56 Try Pelican Parts or www.autohausaz.com Just don't buy the super cheap one as I hear they go bad again pretty quick.
Hi Rick, thanks for the video. You mentioned twice that you had watched a DYI video. Don't you mean DIY (do-it-yourself)? Anyway, such a minor criticism. Cheers Peter
Peter J. Uren Peter, yes, I noticed when editing I had said that mixed up 😃. Thanks for watching my friend!
I have same issues
It was definitely a weird one for sure. The replacement isn't bad, but it is really cramped down there.
I’m afraid my impatience and adult ADD are wasting your valuable time. Next will be the headlight switch. It is very tight, especially in cold weather. If it has to pull out before depressing the pin that holds it, it may be a struggle. Anyway, I have a 2001 Turbo and while it has only 17,000 miles, it is suffering a few age related problems. At my age, 72, I can understand. I look forward to viewing more of your videos. Thanks.
His Patrick, absolutely no problem at all. These jobs are a bit confusing and a pain in the rear as well. Rewatching the video I am a little embarrassed with the camera work also. I honestly am happy to help in anyway that I can. I bet that turbo of yours is a real blast...I have not had the pleasure of riding in or driving one. Best of luck
Rick Hutton My 2001 Turbo was owned by a friend, the original owner. It was driven and stored in Punta Gorda, FL. The owner was in declining health and wanted to thin his herd. The Turbo is Polar Silver with Metropol Blue interior. When I purchased it December 2013 it had 11,764 miles on the odo. The owner was a real enthusiast, so he had the ecu flashed and installed an Evolution Motorsports air intake. He asked me after I purchased the Porsche how I enjoyed it. I told him every time I drove it it tried to kill me. I agree with your statement in another video that engine noises freak me out. While the Mezger engine does not have the IMS problem, a $20,000 engine frag scares me. I’ve had a few problems such as window regulator, ignition switch, rear tires, visor mirrow plastic covers breaking, but nothing horrible. I saw your comment regarding rear tires. After reading reviews on Tire Rack, I last purchased a full set of Sumitomos. I like the feel and price. I don’t feel I gave anything up after prior Bridgestone Potenza replacements, yet saved a good deal of money. Please keep your videos coming. I’m glad I found them and being able to communicate with you provides a support system. Thanks.
That is fantastic Patrick, thank you for sharing the info on the Turbo. It sounds like a beauty. Great comment, "every time I drove it it tried to kill me." :) It seems all of these Porsches, no matter their age, have these little problems to deal with. I too had a window regulator go out just a few months ago, but had my mechanic take care of that one. The cost savings to effort just wasn't worth it. Glad you are liking the Sumiomos...they have been great tires so far and I don't feel much difference if any over the PS2's that were on my car previously.
I appreciate your very kind words about the videos. Thank you for watching them. Have a great weekend.