Shakespeare and the politics of the 21st Century | The Chris Hedges Report
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2023
- Nearly five centuries later, the social and political considerations of Shakespeare's oeuvre continue to offer insights pertinent to our times.
David Herskovits, the founder and artistic director of Target Margin Theatre, and the actor Eunice Wong join The Chris Hedges Report to discuss the works of Shakespeare and what they might still teach us about navigating the storm of slings and arrows of our 21st Century. You can find tickets and more information about their play, 'Pericles' here: www.targetmargin.org/pericles/
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And this is why Shakespeare should remain on the curriculum of every school. His writings echo eternal truths of existence and being. ❤
True but there are the same messages coming from ordinary people every day,, and Shakespeare himself if he was here today he wouldn't content himself with just studying the master, he'd get out and do it himself...
Two reasons - one the woke pc crowd especially in the teachers union are against promoting dead white guys and any sort of western, European culture. second - it is too hard for the functionally illiterate of today to read.
@@biff408 3. Conservatives will call it useless gay poetry
@@biff408 .. oh I see,, we have to have dead black guys making up the "woke" curriculum, that is so stupid it doesn't even deserve to be rebutted... But I will, why don't you right-wing weirdos stop worrying about other people's wokeness and start worrying about your own?
@@saskk2290 Marx advises the working-class to unite. Liberals disdaining "Conservatives" and "Conservatives" disdaining "Liberals" -- these are luxuries we can hardly afford. I'm a conservative! -- a conservative free-market communist. I kind of wish Marx had written a poem or two. Not all poetry needs to be useless or "gay". "To be or not to be?" -- the only line of Shakespeare I know -- How is it useless?
Thank you, Mr. Chris Hedges, for having your beautiful wife, Eunice Wong, and Mr. David Hersksovites, the founder and director and artistic director of Target Margin Theater. This discussion of Shakespeare's plays was enticing and profound
and full of deep insights.
Who could not love Shakespeare's plays? Chaos, anarchy, power, and patriarchy. I see they have delved deeply into history. The Power of imagination and the bodies of his characters from drama, romance, and comedy of human relationships.
The older generation, not understanding the young, and vice-versa. All the emotions and notes of spheres of healing.
Break a leg, with this production of 'Pericles.' With the deepest appreciation and admiration for all of you. 'The Rape of Lecrece', is also a lesser-known play I love.
In theater, we do come out knowing ourselves better and we can embrace and empathize with others.
Bravo, 👏👏👏
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Did Shakespeare ever write a play in which the characters free themselves from the clutches of a moribund system and discover their humanity? I have the impression that all of Shakespeare's characters die or self-destruct. Are there any that self-construct?
@R.W. Emerson II
The comedies are well-written.
What a dazzling, restorative gift of a show! Tears of gratitude and feelings of comfort and belonging! Theater is such a remedy for what ails us, as individuals and as a society. A beautiful honor to "meet" your brilliant, talented and stunning wife, Eunice Wong! Thank you for David Herskovits, his compassion and inspiring work! This program was a beam of hope and healing, personally. God bless and aloha! ~_~ 🙏❤🦋❤🙏
Thanks to all three
Absolutely Fantastic Bravo to you 3. Hope for our world. The creative arts are the hope and beacon of light for humanity.
Thank you so much to The Real News Network for giving Chris a space to continue his work after RT was shutdown.
My two faves....Hedges & Shakespeare....I enjoyed the segment
Beautiful discussion! Thank you!
The fact that RUclips recommends this to me is a compliment.
WOW! Eunice's analysis of reordering vs. reunion (i.e. Viola having to reconstruct her life after learning Sebastian is alive) resonates with me now...a man in my late 50s learning (finally) that I've been lied to my entire life about everything by everyone who's supposed to be helpful and truthful.
Don't forget, most of those lying to you, think they are telling the truth.
THEY have been lied to as well.
Yes, I know the feeling well! As I often said in the 1980s, this world can't possibly be real: It is just too absurd.
If you are a David Lynch fan, I think that the end of Fire Walk With Me depicts someone hearing 'the music of the spheres' in the midst of the 'brutal chaos and destruction in the universe'.
The father of psychoanalysis is Plato, who, incidentally, is the greatest dramatist of all times.
I could listen to a conversation like this for a couple hours. Brother Chris Hedges, please consider producing a extended intellectual conversation on Shakespeare, it really is needed. Thank you.
Illuminating insights all around. I love what Eunice says about theater, through imagination, giving us empathy in life, the antidote for isolation like we've now experienced. 24:41
James Hillman was an advocate for Imagination. Imagination requires distance: Just as we need room to breathe, we need room to imagine. We see nothing when our nose is up against the wall: Step back and we begin to see the grass at our feet and the sky above us.
Descartes got it wrong. He should have said "I feel, therefore I am". Imagination takes this world of feeling and raw sensation, outer and inner, and turns it into a world. That world is where we live -- where we stumble about, blindly, unaware of our own role in creation.
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Beautifully written. Thank you.
Heraclitus once said, " One can't step in the same rivers twice."
@@cheri238 Thank you for responding! I'm delighted to encounter people who have heard of Heraclitus. You prompt me to think about his claim, and I suppose I would disagree with him. Once we step into this river of life, we cannot step out. There may be many gods and godesses, but there is only one River. The universe of feeling is all-encompasing. Feel free to quote me, 3,000 years from now.
"I love thinking about theater as an empathy machine." - Eunice Wong
Imagination is everything said Einstein, and it is everything.
Many thanks to Chris Hedges for this extraordinarily thought provoking video. Maybe its time for a new Age of Enlightenment - one in which the substance of humanity is not measured purely in GNP.
Great! Get a few more artists on your show, Chris! 😃
Thank you for this historical viewpoint and brief introduction to Shakespeare
Fascinating discussion. Thanks, Chris.
This content is wonderful. I would love to see Chris do more culturally focused stories through the lens of a journalist. Albert Camus would be a good follow up. I like to see Chris illustrate his devastating pugilist skills applied to journalism. However, fiction writers seem to be his secret weapon. Literature and his wife make him happy. I enjoy seeing that as much as I like watching him give haymakers to power.
The level of knowledge and wisdom is incredible, which why we question how it could have been possible in one individual. I work in the theatre, but it was nice to be reminded of why I always was drawn to plays from boyhood.
I recently was teaching a Shakespearean monologue to an acting student I have, and it brought out a deep sadness as to our stifled emotional culture. The Shakespearean time was the last time that all classes of society were by default honest about their emotions and intentions. If a lord wished an enemy would catch the pox or have an earthquake break open the Earth and a hand of hell grasp the enemy, latch them down to hell and torture them for eternity, they would say so. It was an honest time, and the violence was also honest. If an emotion was so strong that "love", "hate" and "fear" were just not enough to describe the importance, the speaker would launch into a descriptive outburst that showed the intensity they felt.
In the modern age, we are taught to be cool, clinical, and to not trust extremes of emotions. Those in power are taught to lie and put on an act, like the actor turned prime minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau. But there's a downside to this. We simply cannot fully trust people who don't show who they are. Bullshit abounds. Those who are by disposition emotional and sensitive are pathologized and sent to psychologists who are quite often disconnected and dissociated from their emotions. We are disconnected from our collective hearts and the end result is that horrors reported in the news are simply another statistic and abusive regimes are responded to with a shrug instead of heartfelt outrage.
Chris Hedges has my utmost respect for being a public figure with both a heart and an astute mind. Shakespearean verse is also a reminder of how these can be combined, passion, truth telling, and reason. Thank you Chris for bringing this forward.
Shakespeare's influence on writers, performers, directors - everyone! is immense. I once wrote a play much in the style of Shakespeare, with a bunch of pages in pentameter. I threw it out eventually, because I guess it didn't withstand my own criticism for long. 😅 But that resurrection motif still comes up over and over again when I write. Generational divides. Storms. It's all very strange this desire to write. One way of dealing with the social isolation present in life I suppose.
Rare and wonderful discussion.
Thank you for a relative talk to all that is happening.
That was wonderful, I'm only sorry I can't see the play as I'm in the UK. Thank you. 🙏
Next week Hedges should talk about the Gospels, or one of them, as literature.
And the week after that he should talk about an Old Testament story as literature.
No, please! We need to move from the monotheistic world to the polytheistic one, from the Hebraic to the Hellenic, from a monopolar world to a polypolar one! Let's relive the Odyssey!
But if we do revisit the Old Testament, Eve should the the heroine, the woman who freed us from the Garden of Obedience, the woman who invented independent thinking! Celebrate Eve!
@@r.w.emersonii3501 What, if anything, would you suggest if we revisited the New Testament?
@@andreschang8526 Wow, what a question! First, I would put Christ's teaching in context. Today, without the context, much of what he taught seems like idealistic platitudes for children. We forget that Christ was engaged in a revolutionary struggle. Restore the context and the "platitudes" become meaningful.
For example, let's imagine that Christ said "Tell the truth". Okay, not exactly earth-shaking. But now let's add context: "Telling the truth in a time of universal deceit is a revolutionary act!" (Do I have that right?) Or take what Christ said about love. Sweet but unrealistic, right? But remember what Che Guevara said about revolutionists being driven by love! Suddenly we begin to see love as a weapon, a weapon with no recoil or blowback. Or take what Christ said about going the extra mile, turning the other cheek: This too is an act of defiance. Sometimes, the only way to defy the system is to go over the top. Supererogatory action enables us to steal back the initiative from the system.
That was very uplifting. It's heartening to find that Shakespeare still lives on in the world.
BRAVO 👏 !!!
Encore!!!
Thank you Chris.
Brilliant. To bring vision to imagination, is to supplant a future of possibilities above and beyond the twinned sacred tree of love and beauty; yet to be loved and appreciated by all, is to enjoy the delicacies of wisdom. Chris, your inheritance of stable insight brings out a discussion resembling a blessed fruitful cornucopia, thank you three and thee.
Good one.
Thank you.
William Shakspere, pronounced Shack-spur, is an actor in the Shake-speare folio. his name is listed as an actor with that correct spelling of his family name. He was an illiterate. Sir Francis Bacon one of the founders of the rosicrucians used the word Shake-speare as a reference to their two founding deities of the rosicrucians. He's also one of the main translators of the King James Bible, which is why the 5,000 words he used that we're not in the English language in both his philosophical writings, the Bible and in his plays he created from his thorough study of other languages. He was a secret son of the Queen of England. Throughout his life he studied in other countries to master languages to create what we call the English language now. It should be called baconian.
For information. I worked for 18 years as deputy head of Sound, Royal Shakespeare Company Theatre. It was widely understood that the author of the Works of Shakespeare was, Edward De Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford. I have discussed this with the late Terry Hands, former Artistic Director of the RSC. Many historians/literary heavyweights have studied this. Alexander Waugh, in particular, has brought unequivocal truth to the argument. He can be found on RUclips. I implore you to seek him out. He is a splendid chap and forensic in his work. 😊
Shakespeare whole body of work seems to prove to write in such harsh truth and beauties is to understand the human condition.
Although I know nothing about Shakespeare, I found this moving and inspiring. It brought to mind Matthew Arnold's quip, that culture is the equalizer -- Do I have that right? The struggle against war is a great spiritual struggle, and great writers help us to grasp and imagine this boundless spiritual realm. To begin with, we must free ourselves from the war machine and begin the quest to recover our humanity. Is there a Shakespeare play that deals with that? We are Borg -- to use Star Trek imagery. We are entangled in the Hive Mind -- Madeleine L'Engel's "Wrinkle in Time". How do we deprogram ourselves? How do we regain the ability to think our own thoughts, feel our own feelings, dream our own dreams? Imagine the joy when we discover that we have autonomy! We regain our independent moral sensibility: Now, instead of being condemned by the demonic System, we get to hold our ground and see the System for what it is. We stand alone before the universe! And then we learn that we are not alone: We discover empathy and solidarity and a history of struggle that runs across time and space. Does Shakespeare write about this? Does Homer? What a journey!
Nicely done.
Bravo!
Love this intro
The strange man shaking a spear at the horrors of empire's serf and royalty, women children and men demonstrates a beauty when seen can inspire human justice to increase.
Legend !
Francis Bacon. “But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place;' some swearing, some crying for a surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left. I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they charitably dispose of anything, when blood is their argument? Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it; whom to disobey were against all proportion of subjection.”
― William Shakespeare, Henry V. One of my favorite quotes and if W Bush could read, I'd make him print it on the ceiling above his bed.
Wow! That brings to mind another great line from Shakespeare: "One can smile and smile and smile and smile and smile and be a villain!" Do you hear that, Bill Kristol? What an optimist George Bush was! -- Who but "W" could refer to the holocaust in Iraq as a "catastrophic success"?
So, Chris, tell me how Russia fighting Nazi genocide in the 40’s is different from Russia fighting Nazi genocide in 2023?
One difference: It was the Soviet Union in 1941-1945, not Russia per se. Russia today is recovering Soviet culture, but it's not quite there yet.
Okay, one more difference: This time the Nazis will be truly buried. This is their last gasp.
@@r.w.emersonii3501 I sure hope you’re right my friend
I'm going on a limb here. But my experience with Shakespeare at some of the best universities in the world and as a student at them could have been better.
For me, Shakespeare is more of an industry than anything else, which helps to support our love for literature, and perhaps England. Sure, who could not appreciate and admire the writing and the dramaturgy? But then there's another aspect of Shakespeare, the industry, which is also strictly political.
A good case in point about how this works: Everyone seems to bow down to whatever Shakespeare's works mean to them is manifest in the hit play Hamilton. Although the actual history upon which Hamilton is based is wrong, as far as I understand, no one seems to care.
I find more value in Shakespeare, not so much in production but rather in the challenge of dissecting what is going on with the language. The idea of using this language to produce a play, which I believe the average person would not understand, is unimaginable. That any production of a Shakespeare play would have to be about the work of a singular genius from England is out of my control.
Lastly, I'm sure that most of us are aware that there is no way of knowing that Shakespeare actually wrote these plays himself alone.
I think every Shakespeare production should begin with a language lesson portal, in which the audience would be invited to enter the tunnel of time and travel back to Elizabethan England, where ordinary people spoke in bombastic, pretentious or portentous rhymes! First, take us back there! Put us in the scene! Then the scene will mean something.
Interesting..
'One of the most beautiful passages in shakespeare I think'. Please explain why because I didn't understand a word of it.
From what I heard.. he is so overcome with joy that it is actually his daughter Marina that he might die and asks Helacanus to bring him back to earth by administering a bit of pain.
In other words, "I'm so happy I must be dreaming. Somebody pinch me so I wake or so I know it's not a dream."
@@nightoftheworld In other words, "I'm so happy I must be dreaming. Somebody pinch me so I wake or so I know it's not a dream."
Has she returned to life? Or has he returned to death? Or has each come halfway? -- and in their reunion, perhaps a new world is formed, one where the divide between life and death is blurred? Didn't the ancient Greeks have such a sensibility in their myths -- the living descending into Hades and commingling with the dead, or, even better, Eurydice returning to life, if only for a few instants! Now that is a story to remember!
@@r.w.emersonii3501 In Pericles she does return to life.
I live in the town with Bob Jones Uni. I've claimed bucklehood in the past, but we are more cosmopolitan today so I don't know anymore.
“Who will believe thee Isabel?” ~William Shakespeare
Marriage among the rich and powerful is a property relation.
5:47 Thomas Paine said something in the beginning of “common sense”. I do not remember the quote, but, we belong to our children. Our elderly belong to us. We don’t understand that as a species. For me, it is a basis of faith. I know everyone I see anywhere, they love someone and someone loves them. The same goes for me. sadly, everyone uses incorrect language. to name, if you words, capitalism, conservative, liberal, indigenous, human, and many others. what is funny about our species? Everyone hates communism yet, they can’t wait to get outdoors and commune with everyone in their community and communicate their beliefs. Some go to church. if you take part in the Eucharist, you receive communion. How communist can you get? The technology has existed since 1945. We are capable of creating well-being for every woman and men on this planet. We can do it using less. We can exert less effort. Of course, we are Christian. Why would we ever behave as Jesus taught?
"Whither Shall I fly..."
Divide and conquer the oldest game in the game of war
One thing the anti-education crowd forgets is that, this is what higher education is for, not only to say what you think but to think a while and say, you know there's a bunch of different things I could quote beyond my own opinion on this and this is probably the best example, and then you can go on to say the other seven things beyond your own opinion... That's why Trump appeals to so many people, he says things that appear to be endings but in actuality are just beginnings but they're too stupid to understand it...
Play on.
Hi Chris, very interesting discussion.
As Italian I would add to the author’s list Dante and Eco.
For the sake of the discussion I’m signaling you a recent piece of art of a very young musician and RUclips British creator (in his simplicity and even relative naively) that brought me to tears and where I’ve found a lot of Shakespeare, Bible, Dante, Freud and more.
ruclips.net/video/s_nc1IVoMxc/видео.html
Thank you for sharing Hi Ren. Very profound.
You welcome.
It seemed to me an interesting layer to add.
Plus his performances (live) are defined “bardcore", imagine from where.
I’ve been struck by his self-awareness at such young age (27) and he has a very tormented life.
Hi Chris hope you good
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It's funny how you sight "The Good Book" the Bible as Shakespeare's only equivalence. Seeing as Shakespeare had such an impact on our (English) language.I wonder if Shakespeare's inspiration for the invention of new English words came from Tyndale. Tyndale's Bible of 1534 (still made-up 81% of all significant English revisions until 1885) translated into English from Greek and Hebrew versions contained many new words invented by Tyndale himself. Apparently when he could not find a word to correctly portray the exact idea he thought the Greeks or Jews had been trying to express. These include such delights as: "broken-hearted"; "scape-goat"; "godly"; "godliness"; and "Ungodly"; "Peacemaker"; and "Beautiful".
(Added additional)
In 1560 what is know as the 'Geneva Bible' because of Switzerland I guess. was composed by William Whittingham (brother-in-law of Calvin) this Bible was first ever English Bible in Chapter and Verse format. Something previously done in the Greek translations, hitherto any English.
There's not a real controversy over whether Shakespeare wrote the works, it's just discredited sensationalism at this point. People knew who wrote things, they weren't stupid. The theater scene was large and Shakespeare was a major figure. Also, playwrights often collaborated, hence some mixing of styles in certain sections that opened the door to profit-seeking contrarians. Recent analysis of the various playwrights has reaffirmed Shakespeare's authorship.
Are you talking about Sir Francis Bacon?
It’s odd to me how weighty-even heavily-Shakespearean words are often performed or recited. How certain are we that even the most philosophical, profound, and existential were not instead conversational and bright?
No group could agree enuff to write Hamlet .resurrection
Re creation is Christ
Shakespeare uses biblical texts in his works. Shakespeare is a master.
He writes spiritually, emotionally, physically,
Politically, intellectually all at the same time. No other writer has ever accomplished that
and you didn't mention 'Timon of Athens' the favorite play of Marx.
Who the f!*# cares what Marx thought?
@@billhammett174 Chris Hedges cares. You really should pay attention when you watch videos.
Hi Al
That's a very long bow to draw there yank.
If you’ve been paying attention, you’ve probably noticed that inflation is at a 40-year high,you’re probably not earning at a rate to match this increase you work hard for your money, now allow it to work for you,your Money loss value in the bank and you don't have to work until you're 70 , you're also missing out on free money when you don't use money to make money , that's why investment is essential for financial stability .
Creating A s s e t s can make one successful in life like
.Stocks
.shares
.Bit coin
But without proper knowledge you're screwed
That's why I have to start f o r e x 2 months ago ,now am making constant gain's from it
Natural, there’s a lot of math involved in f o r e x tra ding,
The best thing to happen to the west is to see the end of NATO.
And to see all people move toward peacefull coexistence and the betterment of our planet. LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN NOW. I personally have had enough of conflict and degradation. We have so much potential let us all move in that direction now.
Macbeth ...
Why does Hedges give any credence to the doubters of authorship? It's really absurd to real scholars. Pericles was a joint project, and you can tell from reading which parts were William's. Henry VI and some others had collaboration, and Middleton may have written a bit of Macbeth, or WS may have just lifted a bit for the witches' chant. Overall, there is no serious doubt that Shakespeare, with overwhelming evidence, was Shakespeare.
Not really the topic of this particular episode.
@@moriyokiri3229 yes but the claim is very much class based, and Hedges implies that it's an issue, sort of like accepting that aliens might really be pushing to depopulate the earth so they can get our zirconium. My point is it doesn't deserve mention.
Merchant of Venice- Central Banksters
You're not allowed to say that!
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Shakespeare is a front for Francis Bacon...just think about it a little before you dismiss the idea; who is more likely to have written the plays? look beyond the myth.
Shakespear AKA Francis Bacon 🤬
I am sorry you ignored to mention the real author of the plays, the Earl of Oxford. He deserves better. There is a strong prejudice against recognizing him because he was a royal, and that’s unfortunate. And of course, it would spoil Stratford Upon Avon’s tourist business!
Vote Libertarian 💯 noobs 🔥🔥🔥. BTW, an oracle...does she mean Q 🤣🤣🤣.
PNP
Shakespeare directly encouraged antisemitism, even without personally knowing a Jew. Just saying…
ALL English elites were [are?] antisemitic. Ditto the French (and we know too well about the Germans)...
Shake-speare was written by Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford, for the entertainment at Elizabeth 1st's court. The plays not banned as not suitable for the "serfs", were allowed out to keep the acting troops, the crown and Earls controlled, in rehearsal and occupied. The bonus was the distribution of Royalist propaganda of sovereignty and their reign being the will of God.
Even worse the authorship was suppressed, for obvious reasons, it was conducive to have propaganda being written by a "commoner", especially soon after the works were published, there was a civil war and the Aristocrats (and plays or dancing) weren't popular. The revival happened after previous generations who suspected the author, but couldn't say, had all died off.
The Stratford moniment (sic) was done up to make the Stratford wool merchant, money lender and actor, look more like an author, writing on his wool sack. The Stratford industry don't want to admit their error, not good for business.
Shakespeare was fake. Francis Bacon was actually Shakespeare. There was no Shakespeare.
So Shakespeare was real is what your saying.
Shakespeare laid waste to the Bible in _Measure for Measure_ . The bible sucks , I wouldn't have taken credit for writing it , either. The author would have denounced it as antisemitic , today
Do you think Shakespeare wrote this way as a warning to us rather than him feeling negatively towards those in power?
What happens when there's that fracture like is happening now.
I don't know what Shakespeare would say about our times.
But Hedges has written that different times and places have their own Shakespeares; fiction writers who warn about the perils of their times.
Hedges writes nonfiction but he certainly writes about the perils of our times. In fact, I recommend reading the following in the following order:
Death Of The Liberal Class
Empire Of Illusion
America The Farewell Tour
The Greatest Evil Is War.
They're all written by Chris Hedges but the first 2 are hard to get because they were published over a decade ago.
Shakespear would be canceled today
There was NO HUMAN BEING named Wm, Shakespeare
The writings you think were by Wm. Shakespeare are actually penned by Achemest Hermeticism. Key to Universal Knowledge Terence McKenna - Hermeticism. Key to Universal Knowledge
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