I have been following your guides since starting the game. I have arrived in kvk3 with 1100 GH and YSG expertised and T5 Infantry unlocked. I chose to go for Nevsky5551/YSG and Scipio5551/LC5511 for this kvk. Finding use for Ysg is hard, given that a 5511 LC pairs so well with Scipio.
There’s a bunch of ways to stack march speed on archers but most of them you either sacrifice something else or it’s a big whale thing. Archer boots to tier 4-5 iconic gives 5% each, you can grab an extra 6% from versatility tree, armaments can give some, ottoman civ gives 5%, talented call of loyal gives 6.5%, vip 15 and 18 give 5% each
What about ZL + Zeno or any other healer ? You can use archers and get all benefits from ZL skills + you have 10 ap reduction + very fast skill cycle with skill tree
Great video. I feel the same about archers. I have a couple questions now. I run 3 cav marches and 1 inf and 1 archer marches. I use Guan Scipio. Is Liu Che worth replacing Guan with Scipio or just stand pat? Also herman is out, should I invest in herman to replace Boudica behind Zhuge? Also already have YSG. Thanks in advance
U think for Archer is better to go with the leadership pants and shoes? i think pants and gloves are better.. (iconic leadership glove boost is base defense and set gloves is base atk)
I am poker channel , & as ppls buy into the pseudo-hype of new shiny Archers, it is the perfect time to shift away from archers altogether. I benched the very sad, combat ineffective, Boud/ZL, and replaced them with Xy/William. Go Cavs! The pseudo-overhyped-meta is archer? Ha. Truth is Cavs love that shiat. Archers look strong on paper, but in the field, they are sad sad sad.. They will get ravaged like the sadfaces that we reveal them to be.
I went for cavs in kvk 3 (which im still in), cause i really like Nevsky as a commander. I have expertised ysg, and working on my Nevsky (currently 5211). I was wondering from this what should I transition to? I really like Scipi, so I was thinking maybe an Inf march would be great. What do you think should I do? Im a very low spender, total is below 20 euros.
Herman def overhyped. if you don't pair with Tomy its gonna take around 3-4 skill cycles to trigger expertise depending on how lucky you get with the 4th skill. so it averages out to a 500-ish extra damage factor on your active skill. Not as OP as Joan. Also Herman lacks tankyness compared to Boudica or even Henry. only 20% defense and the 4th skill takes a long time to max out to 15 stacks unless everyone is running Herman prime. Not horrible but def not close to Zhugelian's power level.
I think that because Herman will be popular it will be easier to get procs since multiple Herman’s means more poison faster perhaps. Multiple Hermanns would def steroid the damage
Hello 12, hope you had a great Christmas. I have a question, I'm running Guan Scipio, Nevsky Joan, and Boudica ZL planning on running a 4th march. I have Alex expertise and I plan on maxing and running LC Alex or vice versa. I heard you say in one of your account reviews if I remember correctly that you would run Alex LC as a march. I was wondering if you have used that march at all, what results have you gotten from the march? We're the trades garbage, ok, or good? You're playing in an imperium kvk so I'm asking you since the results are pretty realistic from what players can expect. And I know what I can expect from running Alex LC or vice versa.
The reason Alex/LC or LC/Alex works is that LC expertise has a 25% chance to do an extra attack. Alex's second skill is an insta-proc of skill damage. When you have extra normal attacks, you much increase your chances of insta-proc'ing right when you get into battle. That damage front-loads your effectiveness, compounding like a snowball. You don't have to wait for a full skill to cycle to get that damage. For pairing order: If Alex is primary, you debuff the enemy (aoe debuff 3 enemies), and blast AOE with LC smite. If Alex is secondary, then though he won't debuff the enemy, he will boost the attack of LC. (ie if Alex does not hold a shield, he has total of 70% attack (ie Alex without shield has 70% attack bonus), and smite loves attack bonuses. LC and Alex also has excellent movement speed. On top of that, we all already have expertised Alex. All the stars have lined up for this combo for us older players who have benched Alex ealier. As to your Boud/ZL. That is a rough march. My LC now has more kills than ZL. Sad sad sad. I maxed ZL immediately and saw very poor return for invest. LC only just came out and has surpassed ZL in every way. Archers look good on paper. In the field, they lack any kind of combat effectiveness. As such, I benched that sad march and am running a beautiful five march: 1. Gaun/Scip 2. Alex/LC 3. Joan/Nev (I like Joan primary for the node hopping hasty departure) 4. Xy/Willaim (prefer over Huo. Xy is better in a five march. 5. Trajan/Epic Joan Since I already have xy, and I like what he does in a five march, I have not wanted Huo. I would have gained single target, but lost the xy's utility. Huo looks good on paper, and in reports, but in a five march, I don't care about single reports. Look at osiris league. They also favor xy by a long shot, even though they can get any commander they want. They don't want Huo nearly.
@@pokerchannel6991you maybe using Huo wrongly. My Huo sends reports like it is a Nevsky Joan just slaying everything. It is the same for all other players in ky KD who uses them.
I could imagine archers feel like dogshit rn especially with the march speed shortcomings definitely worth putting a flag + triple line formation just to keep it in line with other marches
Saladin has a gimmick, it’s just useless. He debuffs speed and heal at the same time. Making a synergy off this debuff, needing both will work with saladin and nobody else
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Merry Christmas 12 hope your doing well
I have been following your guides since starting the game. I have arrived in kvk3 with 1100 GH and YSG expertised and T5 Infantry unlocked. I chose to go for Nevsky5551/YSG and Scipio5551/LC5511 for this kvk. Finding use for Ysg is hard, given that a 5511 LC pairs so well with Scipio.
i was thinking about doing this too tho
His coaching is actually really helpful. Good if you want to be better but aren’t sure how to get there.
Not gonna lie big man, this felt kinda short lol! Could listen to your explain this stuff all day
I was thinking about doing a weekly meta breakdown from my POV but wasn’t entirely sure how it would do haha, will keep this in mind
@@12inchpvpnessI know I would sit down and watch that vid. Never gets old listening to you explain the meta.
Very informative. Useful content.
There’s a bunch of ways to stack march speed on archers but most of them you either sacrifice something else or it’s a big whale thing. Archer boots to tier 4-5 iconic gives 5% each, you can grab an extra 6% from versatility tree, armaments can give some, ottoman civ gives 5%, talented call of loyal gives 6.5%, vip 15 and 18 give 5% each
Literally anything, it doesn't matter 🙌
we all want prime sun dont we
Bro love the channel 🎉
Good advice on the chaining marches brah thanks
And rage cycling 👌
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What about ZL + Zeno or any other healer ? You can use archers and get all benefits from ZL skills + you have 10 ap reduction + very fast skill cycle with skill tree
no. lol
@@gjinro743 why is that ? its better than Boudica ZL and he is using it.
its the same as you would use richard ZL the diffrence is troop type, stronger ZL, more march speed. No downside at all
Great video. I feel the same about archers. I have a couple questions now. I run 3 cav marches and 1 inf and 1 archer marches. I use Guan Scipio. Is Liu Che worth replacing Guan with Scipio or just stand pat? Also herman is out, should I invest in herman to replace Boudica behind Zhuge? Also already have YSG. Thanks in advance
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U think for Archer is better to go with the leadership pants and shoes? i think pants and gloves are better.. (iconic leadership glove boost is base defense and set gloves is base atk)
Merry Christmas pros 🙏
So why didn’t your pilot delay the plane so that you can do midterm with us 😂
I am poker channel , & as ppls buy into the pseudo-hype of new shiny Archers, it is the perfect time to shift away from archers altogether. I benched the very sad, combat ineffective, Boud/ZL, and replaced them with Xy/William. Go Cavs! The pseudo-overhyped-meta is archer? Ha. Truth is Cavs love that shiat. Archers look strong on paper, but in the field, they are sad sad sad.. They will get ravaged like the sadfaces that we reveal them to be.
Good video broski
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Zhuge for open in c seed is good?
Hi, thanks for the content. I heard OG is migrating to 3 thousand sth kingdom mid kvk; will you go with them or stay?
Haha, it’s a common tactic to say that KDs are falling apart during KvK, I would have to hear it from alliance leaders to believe that
I went for cavs in kvk 3 (which im still in), cause i really like Nevsky as a commander. I have expertised ysg, and working on my Nevsky (currently 5211). I was wondering from this what should I transition to? I really like Scipi, so I was thinking maybe an Inf march would be great. What do you think should I do? Im a very low spender, total is below 20 euros.
Scipio/LC is insane in the open field. Definitely a worthy investment
El cid??? I'm really confused on which commander your trying to name. 😅
LC, inf comm
LC = Liu che
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Herman def overhyped. if you don't pair with Tomy its gonna take around 3-4 skill cycles to trigger expertise depending on how lucky you get with the 4th skill. so it averages out to a 500-ish extra damage factor on your active skill. Not as OP as Joan. Also Herman lacks tankyness compared to Boudica or even Henry. only 20% defense and the 4th skill takes a long time to max out to 15 stacks unless everyone is running Herman prime. Not horrible but def not close to Zhugelian's power level.
I think that because Herman will be popular it will be easier to get procs since multiple Herman’s means more poison faster perhaps.
Multiple Hermanns would def steroid the damage
im f2p got boudica 5551 ZL5551 ysg maxed, but currently short on heads so do i still do herman for 2 archer marches?
Go for it, but you need to make sure you have gear for it.
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Hello 12, hope you had a great Christmas. I have a question, I'm running Guan Scipio, Nevsky Joan, and Boudica ZL planning on running a 4th march. I have Alex expertise and I plan on maxing and running LC Alex or vice versa. I heard you say in one of your account reviews if I remember correctly that you would run Alex LC as a march. I was wondering if you have used that march at all, what results have you gotten from the march? We're the trades garbage, ok, or good? You're playing in an imperium kvk so I'm asking you since the results are pretty realistic from what players can expect. And I know what I can expect from running Alex LC or vice versa.
Bro gave a whole backstory
it is fine. It is you who are of the tiktok generation who can't hold an attention span to read a properly formulated question.@@terminator6505
The reason Alex/LC or LC/Alex works is that LC expertise has a 25% chance to do an extra attack. Alex's second skill is an insta-proc of skill damage. When you have extra normal attacks, you much increase your chances of insta-proc'ing right when you get into battle. That damage front-loads your effectiveness, compounding like a snowball. You don't have to wait for a full skill to cycle to get that damage. For pairing order: If Alex is primary, you debuff the enemy (aoe debuff 3 enemies), and blast AOE with LC smite. If Alex is secondary, then though he won't debuff the enemy, he will boost the attack of LC. (ie if Alex does not hold a shield, he has total of 70% attack (ie Alex without shield has 70% attack bonus), and smite loves attack bonuses.
LC and Alex also has excellent movement speed. On top of that, we all already have expertised Alex. All the stars have lined up for this combo for us older players who have benched Alex ealier.
As to your Boud/ZL. That is a rough march. My LC now has more kills than ZL. Sad sad sad. I maxed ZL immediately and saw very poor return for invest. LC only just came out and has surpassed ZL in every way. Archers look good on paper. In the field, they lack any kind of combat effectiveness. As such, I benched that sad march and am running a beautiful five march:
1. Gaun/Scip
2. Alex/LC
3. Joan/Nev (I like Joan primary for the node hopping hasty departure)
4. Xy/Willaim (prefer over Huo. Xy is better in a five march.
5. Trajan/Epic Joan
Since I already have xy, and I like what he does in a five march, I have not wanted Huo. I would have gained single target, but lost the xy's utility. Huo looks good on paper, and in reports, but in a five march, I don't care about single reports. Look at osiris league. They also favor xy by a long shot, even though they can get any commander they want. They don't want Huo nearly.
It is fine. Maybe work on your attention span such that you'd be able to follow a properly formulated question.@@terminator6505
@@pokerchannel6991you maybe using Huo wrongly. My Huo sends reports like it is a Nevsky Joan just slaying everything. It is the same for all other players in ky KD who uses them.
hey 12
I could imagine archers feel like dogshit rn especially with the march speed shortcomings definitely worth putting a flag + triple line formation just to keep it in line with other marches
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How many kp?
probably below 10x than his power 😂@@Osiris-HT
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It is 20 million kp
Saladin has a gimmick, it’s just useless.
He debuffs speed and heal at the same time. Making a synergy off this debuff, needing both will work with saladin and nobody else
i hate when the meta changes
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