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Garrard Phono 202A and Airline Radio 62-144 repair Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2021
- A friend gave me this 1930s phonograph and radio chassis to fix up for him. Now that the gramophone is working I can tackle the radio, it has had a lot of work over the past 85 years and will need all of my electronics expertise to make it work, something that is in very short supply. Will I be successful?
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I am still amazed at how you pick up on issues with seemingly no struggle whatsoever. I know this is a lost art, but if the zombie apocalypse ever hits, Dave, people are gonna need you around big time!
Hi Greg, troubleshooting was a big part of my previous work occupation, maybe that helps. If the zombie apocalypse happens I will be leading the way... to escape 👍😄
@@DavidTipton101 Right behind you mate!
your camera work is top notch, pleasure to watch , the audio is great also
Thanks The5thduke, I try my best 🙂
Sometimes your microphone sounds overloaded but think comes becouse your mouth gets too close to the mic. 😉
@@Dutchamp I only have one mic and I have to move around to reach parts of the radio so the volume varies. I try and correct it in post production but it's tricky. I'll try and move the mic around a bit more, thanks Martin.
@@DavidTipton101 it is still audioable maybe trying to demp your voice will help I think I can imagine the struggle it must be to film your work.
I am located in Holland but understand every word so that's no problem.
Dave , this two part series was great. Your work and dedication are flawless. Nice job and thanks for taking us along! Take care!
Thanks John, my pleasure. Take care 👍🙂
What a find thanks to one of your followers, re the IF can and the intermittent shorting, great work and i hope the owner gets many more years out of the radio.
Thanks Stephen. Yep that was going to be tough to track down. It would still do it with most of the valves removed and just the output valve fitted, my next move was to cut power progressively to the front end, I might have narrowed it down then 🤔
Folks are dumb where I come from....LOL...My grandfather had the first Monkey-Ward (that's what we called them here in Western Pennsyltucky) radio (the floor model) that you showed...he spoke of hearing the news of the Pearl Harbor attack on that radio...it's still in the family...Thanks again Dave for keeping these pieces of radio history alive...
Hi James, There is a lot of history in these old radios, good that your Dad's radio is still in the family 😀
Another perfect Friday afternoon. Work is finished and another video from Dave
Does it get any better 😄 thanks 1974UTuber.
Oh man, the Doris Day drop killed me. That garnered a big 'ol blurt laugh. I'll think of that and just giggle for weeks to come.
And again, I'm in admiration of your skill, patience, and dedication. I honestly don't know what else to say about it. JUST. THAT. GOOD.
Hi Steven, 'Folks are dumb' seemed to fit the occasion 😄 Thank you Steven, you are very kind 🙂
You always have the greatest tips. I would have ever thought of stretching the end of heat shrink to get over old insulation. I always had to use oversized tubing to accomplish that and it never shrinks small enough. It's the simple things that make a professional looking restoration. Thanks.
Hi Jonny, the stretched heat shrink works a treat, it doesn't seem to effect the heat shrink either although I'm sure NASA wouldn't allow it 😀
@belly tripper Thanks BT 😀
Glad you got it all working. Wells Gardner really made some nice equipment in the 30's. Beautiful cabinet too, and appears in nice shape. Hopefully the owner will enjoy it!
Hi a587g, thank you for the tip, being intermittent it was going to be hard to track down. It's a well constructed radio and works very well. The cabinet has some veneer missing but in good shape I've been told, it should be good when it's back together 👍🙂
Usually these early magnetic cartridges lose their magnetic properties. This is easily fixable by either buying a new magnet or magnetizing the old one. Surprising that this one haven’t. Great work!
Someone had been in there haha ahah and changed the rubbers before me, it certainly worked perfectly. Thanks haha ahah 👍🙂
"It's got more knots here than a boy scout's convention" . Your sense of humour is undiminished, Dave. That's why I like your channel so much.
Thanks HH, I try 😉
85 years later and that set-up never sounded better. Nice work, David!
It works amazingly well Orion Warren, thanks 😀
Another very good restore, thanks for the videos David, Made my Friday night.
Thanks Syd, glad you enjoyed them 😀
Try and get us a photo of the set assembled, once the owner gets it back together. It would be neat to see it all set up with the dial lights glowing.
Hi Jeff, I will try and do a video. I don't know when the owner will have it put together though 🙂
Would've loved to see the case restored but man this thing works a treat now, very nice. Cheers Dave!
Thanks Manny, I would have loved to hear it in it's case too, it sounds so good on the bench, the case would have helped immensely 🙂
Once again a journey worth taking, excellent work David. 📡 >>>>>>>> 📻
Thank you A Last 😀
Thank you, for a few things Mr Dave.
1. Letting us know when an advert is on it's way.
2. Showing us how to expand heat shrink.
Muchly appreciated.
My pleasure toiletpaper mittens. Thank you 😀
Enjoyed watching your disciplined work . Thanks for the look.
Thanks John and thanks for watching 😀
Absolutely fantastic video. Always top quality viewing .Well worth waiting for part 2.This really is a premium channel.Best wishes Terry uk 🇬🇧 👍 ❤
Thanks Terry. All the best in the UK 😀
Very good video, careful work and bits of humor thrown in for good measure.
Thanks Quantum Leap 😀
Sometimes it's not simply procedure that gets the job done but a certain amount of detective work. On something this old you almost need to re-learn electronics! Superb result, well done.
Thanks Paul, a certain amount of detective work can be fun, it's the cold cases that get to you 🕵️♂️ 😀
Well done Dave as usual you make it look easy, if you can ask your friend to take some snaps of the set in the cabinet.
Hi Mack, I will do that, thanks 👍🙂
Hi Dave,
I know you like doing a thorough deep-clean but I’m sure you enjoy certain jobs where the owner requests the radio be got working, and nothing else. I certainly do!
When you spoke of crackling taking place when the radio was first switched on, my immediate thinking would have been to suspect some component intermittently arcing internally. That is one good example where a “sniffer” probe, or “Bloodhound” I spoke about would have proved its worth. It certainly would have helped locate the source of the crackling noise. I say good on the man who pointed out where the noise was likely coming from - we all should endeavour to help each other.
Now that the radio has received a full alignment, it sounds and performs well. By the sound of each radio station, I’d guess you have the bandwidth just right - here in the UK it is usually 9kHz, or 4.5kHz each side for A M.
Yes, an excellent result my friend. The phono part of radiogram of that age can often sound dull and almost lifeless but not in this instance.
Cheers my friend, Phil.
Hi Phil, I was happy to just do the radio and not worry about the chassis condition, the cabinet will only get a spruce up so it will suit the total package in original condition. I will look up the 'sniffer' you spoke about, it would have been very handy in this instance. The bandwidth is 9kHz here too, it was 10 so the stations don't quite line up anymore but then some of the stations moved frequency too. The radio works surprisingly well, clear and clean sound and the old tech gramophone is amazingly good with a new needle and a good record. I would be happy to put this in my home, in it's cabinet of course. Cheers Phil 🙂
At 14:25, I appreciate that you used a terminal strip rather than just soldering point-to-point. That looks so sloppy when I see that.
I do that your way also! Well done; again!
It's a better way if you can get the strip in there pi-duino, plenty of room on this chassis 🙂
Hello David, I enjoyed this rebuild . The older radios are built to last . Insulation of the day not so much ! Thanks for posting this !
Hi Keith, this a solid unit and heavy. The insulation is a constant worry though. Thanks 👍🙂
As usual a most enjoyable and entertaining video. A very nice way to spend an hour.
Thanks Terry 😀
Loved watching David you're teaching me a lot..
Thanks Matt 👍🙂
I'd really been looking forward to Part 2 and I wasn't disappointed...thank you!
Thanks you cogidubnus1953, glad you enjoyed it 😀
Another job well done, David! It's highly enjoyable to watch a Master at work!
Thanks David 😀
What fun to see the prices of replacement parts!
I bet $3.75 for a transformer was outrageous back then Bob 😀
Always something new to learn watching your vids, m8!
Kudos!
Thank you Vinny 🙂
Top notch as always, David! As usual, I’ve picked up some tips and tricks. Oh, and some jokes. 😊
Haha... thanks Jeff 👍😀
What a lovely sound machine, David!
Thank you Eddy S. 😀
Loved it. Thanks again for another great video.
Thanks Ged 😀
Always good, always professional. Bravo!
Thanks Giomas 😀
Really nice job on the radio and phonograph combination. I always like your meticulous detail you go through in every radio adventure. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks LUCKYLARRY and thanks for watching 🙂
Great job Dave. Great video.
Thanks Phil 😀
I have no interest in repairing radios but I found this video mesmerising and very interesting. Thank you for posting it.
Thanks Jerry, good to hear 😀
Sir David, excellent resuscitation! I love it...... Thank You!
Thank you John 😀
Lazy Dave did not drill off the insides of the old capacitors and insert new ones inside) Great as always!
Haha... I was a bit lazy Vlad, Thanks 😄😀
It's been an absolute pleasure to watch you work again. Great job Dave, enjoy your weekend with the family.
Thank you Brain, glad you enjoyed it 👍😀
Perfect work as usual!
Thanks Luigi 🙂
Thanks for another great video David! I really like seeing the phono combo. It's interesting to see the different ways they did the mechanisms. :)
Hi Brian, thank you. It's an interesting set and I would love to get one of those gramophones for myself, I'm amazed at how well it works 😀
Nice one Dave, you did a great job as always, nice touch with the video segments , you never stop learning, that's what it's all about, love watching your work, hope everyone is good mate, tell next time.
Hi Barry, thanks. Yes, I picked up some good info there, especially the arcing from the IF cans. We are all well thank you, I hope it's the same with you 👍🙂
Really nice job getting this one working well Dave. You did a really nice job and got it playing like new and still kept it the way the guy wanted it. I love watching you do this work, because I always learn something.
Thanks Gregg, I learn something each time too. Nicely made US radio too 👍🙂
Nice work. As usual.
Thanks Wayne 😀
David as usual you've proved you can just about fix any radio or record player , I look forward to your next video ,👍
Haha... thanks Sheldon, so far so good 😀
Well done mate, it would have been extremely satisfying to achieve such a great outcome. Another great video.
Thanks Graham, I'm extremely impressed how well it works 😀
Nice job David. I picked up some good tips. Thank you. John
Thanks John, happy to help 😉
Part 2 & you didn't disappoint Sir! Well done & great video work as always! That tip on the wires shorting to the cans was quite a timesaver!
Thanks James. The tip saved me a lot of time, I was very grateful 😀
Amazing David loved it
Thanks Andy 🙂
Thanks for the Cleaning switch tip, would not have thought of that
Thanks High Path, it cleaned up well. I have in the past had to dismantle that design switch to repair it, I'm glad this one one responded to the spray 🙂
Yet again another great video, such excellent work and troubleshooting skills and repairs. Love that a fan of yours saved you hrs of troubleshooting frustration with that suggestion that lead you right to the problem. Also I have not before seen how those adjustable mica capacitors look like when opened up or mica removed, thanks for that.
Thanks Mr Byamile. I was very lucky he happened to mention the problem in his comment. Those old micas can be troublesome, good that they can be dismantled 🙂
Great series and wonderful result. You are amazing. Thanks David de KB7ICI...Bill.
Thank Bill 👍😀
Fine job David !!! Well done... that arcing suggestion was key.... and you've shown the evidence.... excellent stuff.....
Hi Ron, I was lucky someone had figured it out for me and happened to mention it. Thanks 🙂
Hi David, great to see part two. Fantastic job but good job that follower mentioned the problem if. A real trap for young players. Cheers Steve.
Hi Steve, thanks. Yes, I was very lucky to get that tip, I'll keep that in my memory 👍😀
Other great restauration, very well explanaid, I learn a lot.
Congratulation - Sao Paulo - Brazil
Thanks Fernando in Sao Paulo 😀
The sound from the record player was really nice (with plenty of bass component, which you don't usually associate with 78s). Ditto, very little surface noise. I wasn't expecting that! I remember endlessly playing my first ever record, which was a 78: "The Isle of Capri" on a black wind-up gramophone. (Sadly, a lot of the 78 record collection got turned into short-lived and immensely ugly "vases" (with a bit of heat applied)). Good we both share early memories of changing gramophone needles! Many thanks for the video, as always. ---Mike
Hi Mike, thank you. If the speaker was in the case the bass would have been much better. I am fortunate I haven't seen vases made from old records 😮 I had completely forgotten about the twist head but I was very young when we had a 78 player with needles. Cheers Mike 🙂
Another great repair David
Thanks Paul 🙂
great job dave ,i restore 70s and 80s recievers ,amps .Now im going to get into tubes.its nice to see that old stuff restored thanks dave for your jnformative videos ive learned alot PAUL
Hi Paul, thanks. Tubes are more interesting, you can see them working .😄
Another great video Dave 👍👍
Thanks again waynio67 🙂
What a beauty. I love the dial on this radio!!
Hi Derek, I agree, I think they called a cockpit dial or airplane dial or something like that. They have reproductions available in the US 😀
@@DavidTipton101 that explains why I like it.. 😆✈️
@@DerekHerbst747 Me too 😉
Cool to see and hear a 90 year old phono and radio amp working after so long. Now a days we buy a plastic phono and amp it is broken within two years. I noticed the cost of the transformer on your data of the radio. Transformer costed about 3 Dollars? What a prices back then hé. David you done a nice repair partly restauration. Cheers Martin
Hi Martin, it was nice to get this going again and to get such a first class result is kudos to the builders of these machines many years ago. The prices where cheap but quite a portion of the weekly wage I bet 👍🙂
Nice work as usual Dave! The "folks are dumb" thing took me back to Jacki McDonald's days on Hey Hey.. 🤣🤣
Hi Chris, Haha... that's right, I must have been having flashbacks. Jackie was great, lives up here in the south east corner of QLD. Thanks 👍😀
as always great work master
Thank you Antonio 😀
Thanks David, I really like these early models, fascinating, would love to see it mounted in the case though.
Hi Alan, I would have loved to see and hear it in the case, if I do I'll try and show it 🙂
Nice video, again, like always.
Thanks PD1RWK 👍🙂
At 15:55 the components shown are taken out, that are bad or out of spec are commonly called "dead soldiers". Boy that chassis was really mucked up by
previous repairmen. Some who didn't bother connecting the parts they added properly. And they charged the previous owners for doing it!
Like how you caught the fact the speaker wasn't connected in the circuit when testing it! Sure it happens to us sometimes.
Even with the dirty band switch it works. Rest of the repairs were fascinating to watch and will remember how it was done right by David!
Some IF transformers have been found to have cardboard in them to stop arcing inside. A few manufacturers didn't do this like Wells Gardner
but it does work. Aloha , Steve
Hi Steve, I've heard them called dead soldiers before on YT. It had had a lot of work over the years with lots of component leads buried in the solder, it took a lot of time to rebuild it to original. The speaker was nothing, I did a few more times during the repair 🙄 I have some fish paper here and considered lining the inside of the cans if the first repair was ineffective. Haha... Aloha 😄
Amazing jop dive thank you from deep my heart for your amazing video
Thank you Amar, my pleasure 😀
Excelente Maestro David Tipton:
Siempre espero con mucho interés sus vídeos.
Un Cordial Saludo desde Cuba.
Gracias Juan. Cuidate 🙂
Thanks for the video. I am restoring a Midwest DD18 console and was wondering how to power up the radio safely. I will use your trick of putting the tubes in one at a time. Wonderful video.
It's a good way to power it up gradually, remember to plug in the speaker 🙄 Thanks Nelson 🙂
Excellent, as ever! Excelente, como siempre!
Thank you Carlos 😀
great work!
Thanks Schlipperschlopper Schlipperschlopper 😀
great referb good idea to clean the mica wafers i will try that idea thanks
Thanks Angelo, it made a big difference 🙂
Hey, Dave! I was waiting for this. I was getting ready to have a trailer loaded, spotted that this video was released. Told myself that I would watch it when I got home. The difference is watching on my phone or my 65" television. Much better on the telly. Love the video as usual. Too bad you didn't restuff that capacitor.
Thanks clasicradiolover, better on the TV for sure 😀
@@DavidTipton101 Good quality even on a big screen. Some videos look okay on the phone but not on a big screen. But you must use HD video
@@clasicradiolover Yes 1080 HD 👍
I can't wait for part 3 !!!!
I hope to get some video of it finished chachavessel 🙂
I spoke to you a while ago about you having the same rf generator as me and took out the 12 position function switch and put back in what should be a 1k fine tune rf pot did not have 1 but replaced with a 50k 1 i had and the generator is now running fine plenty of output before very weak and getting depressed thought i had brought a lemon now happy.I was trying to repair a Stewart Warner 1934 and using the generator the way it was was useless could not get any signal before to pass anywhere in the radio spent heaps of time checking capacitors etc going in circles but thanks to you and listening to what you say helped me thanks man.
My pleasure Michael, I'm glad you got your generator working properly 👍🙂
Another excellent Refurbishment Dave the Turn Table and the radio were both built before you were born the radios with RF stage perform excellently and good work finding that intermittent crackle from information from internet Mate
I can see you getting more work but a excellent refurbishment Dave Full Marks Mate.
Thanks Ian. I was very happy with the result of the gram and the radio, better than I had hoped. The crackle fix was great thanks to old mate. Cheers 👍🙂
I wanna CLEAN it! Nice job.
Haha... it would have come up nice Digital Dan but it wasn't to be 🙄🙂
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks Sonny and thank you for watching 👍🙂
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Hi David. Superb job yet again. I bet that it sounds good in its cabinet, it may also sound better with a larger speaker. That speaker you had there looked in too good a condition to be the original.The owner should be more than happy with the result. As always I thoroughly enjoyed watching this series. Stay safe and well. Cheers Chris.
Hi Chris, thank you. It will sound great in the cabinet, I hope to hear it one day. I think the speaker had been re-coned but not recently, on closer inspection it had some age cracks 😀
A coffee for this Work, Greets from AUSTRIA 👍🏻
Thanks Arnie, greetings from Australia ☕🦘😀
muy buen trabajo mi amigo, felicitaciones
Gracias Eduardo 😀
I've found that braided boot laces make a great replacement for frayed a dissipated braided cotton insulation. A bit of heat shrink on the ends minimizes the discontinuity, and available cheap at any dollar store.
That's a good idea Borkzilla, "up there for thinking" 👍😀
Dave, the radio IF can surgeon performing an mica transplant! :-)
Nurse... Sponge! Thanks W Rex 😄
Great job as always, Dave!
24:00 - The Jersey Boys! ;-)
It seemed strange to not see station call letters on the dial. I’ve gotten used to that on your channel. Then I remembered it’s an American set.
Believe it or not, Wells-Gardner is still in business! But they no longer make radios.
Thanks Super Het. Haha... I found it much easier to align with the frequency printed on the dial, a bit of a change 😄 Good on Well-Gardner for adapting and surviving 👍😀
Very nicely done Dave.
That gramophone sounds spectacular. Your records are in really good nick obviously.
I need to buy you another coffee mate after all the interactions and replies on your last video.
Thanks for all of it
Thanks 1974UTuber. The records are a mixed bag and some date from the 20s but the sound can be surprisingly good. Always happy to interact with viewers, it's very rewarding. Thanks for the coffee if you buy one but there is no need 👍🙂
@@DavidTipton101 Bought you 3. I really hope you don't actually drink all those coffees people buy you. You would never sleep. But we would get loads of videos out of your insomnia 🤣🤣😅
@@1974UTuber Thank you 1974UTuber, I will drink them wisely and not after 5pm 👍😀
Smashing repair david :-D
So nice to see such an ancient radio sing again :-D
The tuning was so far off i suspected someone was messing about with it, likely more than one mad tweaker lol.
The tip about the arcing wire was great, that could have been a nightmare to find the fault.
I imagine the records you are playing are so old that no one holds the rights any more.
Hunts capacitors, ok in there day but 30 + years later deadly.
Hi zx8401ztv, thank you. This old radio had seen a lot of repair over the years as witnessed by the number of cut off pig tails left in the solder joins. It would have taken a lot of troubleshooting to find the arcing issue but luckily the viewer came up with the answer and saved a bit of time for me. I was surprised the Benny Goodman record didn't get a copyright hit, the flip side does but not the one I played, I doubt anyone would own up to the harmonica record 😄
48:35 "No hum?" Clearly it knows the words to the song! LOL
🙄
Brilliant, and quite a different challenge that you overcame with your usual skill. I would love to hear it in the original cabinet with all that timber. You also win praise for having the cheesiest record collection. 😊 Now that I think of it, I have got some pretty cheesy 78s too, although I draw the line at harmonica and hula. 😄👍
Thanks Pauline, I would like to hear it in the cabinet too, it's a little shrill with just the speaker. I am very proud of my 78 collection... even if it is cheesy 😄 Not many top hits show up at the tip shops unfortunately. That harmonica song got in my ear and couldn't get it out for a day 🙄😀
@@DavidTipton101 Haha. There is a line from Noel Coward's Private Lives that goes something like. "Strange how potent cheap music is"
@@PaulinesPastimes He was on to something there Pauline 😄
Awesome job Dave your friend is lucky to have you there to restore this Lovely piece of Radio & Phono History. So exciting seeing everything come back to life , the old needles look quite lethal I wonder what the wear rate is on those old 78 records 🤔 ?
Hi Rover Steve, thank you. It's a great radio and gram, the owner was lucky to get them back 😉 The needles I have are good for 5 record plays. The record is harder than the sacrificial needle so should last a good time if the needles are replaced at the required interval 🙂
A good job well done :-))
Thank you Bob 😀
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Teşekkürler Mutlu 🙂
I like the tone and volume indicators. Totally useless 1930's bling! Perfect
Haha... that's one way to look at it Yisrael S 😄
50:17 AWWW so nice to see you in your younger years lmaoo The radio sounds great.
Thanks patprop74, I did look good in a skirt... oh, you mean the guy 👍🙂
Great job David... pity you were not permitted to tidy up the chassis... I think sometimes we can get a bit too carried with originality. I hope you new assistant doing the "voice overs" is well paid😉 .
Hi Kenneth, thank you. The chassis was fine as it was, it suits the cabinet which is in original condition. She works for peanuts... literally 😄
I have had a number of radios and tv that over the years as well as faulty caps failing have also come across some of the mica caps becoming noisy from age and leaky/intermittent and can cause crackling in the audio . Mainly the one that are across the main B+ rails. Hard to check and easier just to replace when going through a set.
The micas where my first suspicion when tracking the noise but they checked out OK, micas on the B+ are high on the list 🙂
Ahhhhh, I still remember the days you could pop the back off the tv or the stereogram and look for the valve that wasn't glowing.
Then go to the shop and buy another one, put it in and Bob was your uncle again.
"Folks are dumb where I come from..." 🤣
Don't feel bad, I'm sure that more than once even Dr. Frankenstein clipped the wrong leads on the monster's electrodes. It happens to the best of us.
Which brings me to the point, I wonder where Dr. Frankenstein got his electronics from. I mean, no internet and probably not too many electronics shops in Transylvania.
I remember those days too Ellesmere, of course the electronic components were new then so a valve was a likely candidate. I left the speaker plug out a few times more during the repair 🙄 Dr Frank only needed a few huge knife switches and light bulbs 👍🙂
Thanks
Thank you for your support Simon 👍😀