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A new octocontrabass clarinet prototype, plus Bb-1 (Low C) demo!
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- Опубликовано: 8 авг 2024
- After a lot of brainstorming I've come up with a new concept for the octocontrabass clarinet prototype, one that I hope will make the project much more feasible.
Also be sure to check out the CLEX project, which was a big inspiration:
www.fresh-wind.ch/en/instrume...
Yay finally another me
Your resolve and dedication is inspiring, and your innovative thinking ‘out-of-the-box’ is exciting to see as it gets manifested in this prototype, as with you previous work. Thank you for you meaningful contribution to the Clarinet and its future development!
That sound is much improved, and the solenoid keys are a really good idea.
I think this video has given me an idea. For a long time, I've been trying to figure out how I could design a completely removable low Eb extension for a Bb clarinet, and then work my way up to more ambitious extensions, like a basset extension. With typical mechanical keywork, I don't think it's possible to design it so that it is completely removable. However, if I apply your application of solenoids onto the tone holes, removable extensions could work, and be very effective. All I would have to do is design the body of the extension with mounts for the solenoids and a structure that reaches up to wherever I would want the "keys" (my first thought was micro switches because they are very light, compact, and easy to trigger), and then program a microcontroller to deal with all of the inputs and outputs. I may actually start working on this design within the next few days. I know you aren't the first one to think of this concept, but thank you for exploring it! As a mechanical engineering major whose biggest passion is music, I love to see people experimenting with new takes on old instruments!
this is amazing Jared! im so glad to see you continue this project and the solenoid keys are a crazy but ingenious idea. I wish you the best of luck and im looking forward to the future of this projects development!
As a 8th grade trombonist, i'm really interested in your concept of the octocontrabass clarinet.
I agree, im a trumpeter in 6th grade
Been anticipating this for quite some time!
so excited to see this progress my admiration for you and your passion to see this project through!
Very much looking forward to the next update video on the octocontra! Fascinating about the potential use of solenoids!
I wish you success in completing this project!
Really exciting! (I can't believe I didn't comment back when you first posted this video!)
Solenoids are the best solution for big instruments! Congrats for the inovation!
Suuuper excited to see what comes of this!! The middle school version of me may have fainted from excitement watching this
I would think it would be simpler to use something like a EWI or WX7 as a input device. A fairly simple interface between the midi notes and say an ardunio would result in the solenoids clacking away in no time. Such a mechanism could be essential braced onto the side of the existing tube work.
That might be the way I go. Though I think I want to experiment with contacts connected to clarinet key work to simulate the feel of a clarinet.
@@Jared_De_Leon search on youtube for: "Introducing CLEX - Basel Sinfonietta ft. Ernesto Molinari". This is the method you are looking for. I believe this is a Bb contrabass with an extension down to low A. They basically put regular clarinet keys on the neck since its so long. With an octave down transpose button you won't need all those thumb keys.
Excited to see this come along!
You’re a revolutionary!
Fantastic work
This is so cool! I hope your succeed and make this a working reality!
I also found a project for a subcontrabassoon that goes to Bb or A-1. Wouldn't it be so cool if both of these projects flourished into practical instruments?
this is awesome
Doing big new things takes time, no problem waiting.
I’m looking to build a micro controller solenoid controlled bass / conta alto flute. Solenoids I’ll be rolling my own, to get force and travel right. Not too hard to do.
I’ll keep checking in here as you go.
This is amazing !!
Great idea ! I've seen another instrument built with those, but I don't remember the youtube link.
Your a genius
There are two sides I'm feeling on electro mechanical keys.
The traditionalist that enjoys analog and having that physical connected feeling when playing my clarinets is appalled at having electro mechanical keys....
tinkerer in me is fascinated. The instant transposing nature the programming allows could be ported over to other clarinets in the future. electro mechanical keys also means less physical stress on the player. not gonna lie, the biggest drawback to an octocontra bass clarinet with traditional mechanical linkages is God help me with some of those pinky keys. On extended range bass clarinets, I've seen some people put down playing bass clarinet just from the amount of metal a single pinky has to move for a single key. The stress was too much for them.
Either way I'm curious to see the end results.
@3:43 D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DROP THE BASS!!
Huh, having a micro controller interface would also enable you to put any woodwind fingering system on there. Flute, saxophone, recorder, no matter. That's pretty cool.
I'd buy it
Timestamps for sound comparison of external mic vs phone mic: 3:43 3:59
I think Schwenk & Seggelke made a contrabass with solenoid keywork.
You should check out Richard Bobo. He's enduring a very similar journey with his Subcontrabassoon Project. Both of you are doing great!
Also, I bought the book that you recommended to me when I commented on your previous Octo-net video. Thank you so much!
Is this Octo-net that you're talking about making in Bb or Eb? What about the one behind you throughout the video?
Much love and support! Go low reeds!
you should try to make it in the shape of a tubax i would be interested to see that
Would I be able to purchase one when it is complete, if so what would be the price
how do you figure out where to place tone holes? i've tried looking for books on the subject but i can only find one
I have a question how did you make the keys for the ocontra alto clarinet. I want to make a contra alto clarinet and i was wondering where you could find or make the keys for it
j a c k h a m m e r
Where do you source your Keys? I couldn’t find a good source for keys except taking apart broken clarinets
That's where I get my keys actually.
its been 2 years since we have had an update. How's the progress?
Very slow lol. Unfortunately between other projects and work I haven’t gotten as much done as I would’ve hoped. I still plan on making one and have some big plans in the works. In the mean time, check out Martin Foag. He is also building and octocontrabass and already had 4 orders!
oooo i will check him out@@Jared_De_Leon
So like the Clex contrabass clarinet from Schwenk and Seggelke…
Yes, which is why I mentioned it in the description.
Is this for the Blue Man Group?
Hey are you still working on this?
Yeah still working on it. Just lots of other projects and work that have kept me busy.
That low Bb should be an octave lower for the instrument to be called “octocontrabass,” since a regular contrabass in Bb can play it.
It is an octave lower…
@@Jared_De_Leon The note you played is Bb0, lowest Bb on the piano. Check out Richard Bobo's Subcontrabassoon for a Bb an octave lower.
@@ABruckner8 it’s Bb-1. Trust me I have a low C paperclip and I can 100% confirm that the tube was twice the acoustic length and played an octave lower. Try listening on better speakers.
@@Jared_De_Leon Dude, my apologies...I was talking about the low note at the END of the video (9:25), and now I fully understand! (And it turns out that note is actually F1, cuz you're messing with harmonics!) I was wondering wtf cuz the note in the middle of the vid is Bb-1 (3:44), so all good!! Sorry man! Keep up the great work!!
14.6 Hz! That's low enough to hear each cycle.
I am the only one who can hear the low c
i still dont get why people use pipes for instruments
It's cheaper and easier to get than metal tubing.
@@SenorCluck oh really?
its sounds like a fart lmao amazing
4:26 wait before i keep watching ~ you are gonna use digital system with servos for the keys and an arduino/other microcontroller to receive the button inputs
5:07 hah close enough
edit: godspeed btw Jared; were all cheerin for ya