Biggest Album Flops Tier List
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2024
- Ranking some of the biggest flop albums in music history, from floppiest to least floppy. Let us know how you'd rank them in the comments.
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Terence Trent D'Arby's Neither Fish nor Flesh. Coming off a huge debut, it was a massive commercial bellyflop. (Although I like it quite a lot.)
Gaucho doesn't belong here at all. It sold well at the time, had two hit singles, and its reputation has never stopped growing.
'Tusk' was a self-consciously avant-garde gesture by Fleetwood Mac, spurred largely by the artistically ambitious Lindsay Buckingham. Everything about it makes more sense when approached from this perspective. On its own terms, it remains a classic, and is a worthy entry in the band's catalogue, perplexing cover and all.
It was avant-garde in some ways, but let's face it, it's not exactly Captain Beefheart. The weirdness, to my ears, is mostly a matter of the mix, not the songs themselves. It's also sequenced pretty eccentrically, e.g. Side One, Track One is a very slow Christine McVie ballad. Anyway, history has vindicated all the decisions that were made. Tusk now rightly stands alongside the White Album and Exile on Main St.
I know March is almost over, but I think it'd be fun to do a tier list of all the albums that have been featured on the show 'Trainwreckords'. 😂😂
Tusk was too successful to be a flop.
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Define success
It sold well enough to be a success, to answer the creator’s question, without anyone soliciting my involvement. However, it is possible to obtain multiplatinum status and still be considered a flop(depending on who you ask). The best example I can think of is Hootie and the Blowfish. The follow up to Cracked Rear View, Fairweather Johnson, sold 4 million copies in the US alone and was considered a flop by the record company. It basically cost them their recording career because the company stopped investing anything in them.
@@TastesLikeMusic many ways to define success, one of which is going double Platinum which is what Tusk did.
Agreed, although by the bizarre RIAA system, double platinum for a double album means one million actual albums sold.@@179rich
When I think of a flop, the first thing that comes to mind is the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club movie and album. It was hugely hyped and anticipated when it came out and it really stiffed. I saw the movie on TV at some point and remember it as pretty embarrassing. Awhile ago I listened to the entire soundtrack recording and had a similar reaction. There were some tracks off it that were hits and hold up well - Aerosmith's "Come Together" and Earth Wind and Fire's "Got To Get You Into My Life" were perfect fits - but wow, so much other stuff on there that is so forgettable. I don't think Peter Frampton ever really recovered from his involvement in this thing.
I still cant get that U2 piece of crap off of my phone.
Duffy’s “Rockferry” is an excellent record. Possibly the best “retro soul” record I’ve heard.
I’m no expert on her career, but I think she was kidnapped. Traumatized. She had every right to want to drop out of the whole thing.
Often cited as the cause of her instant decline is a legendarily awful video for the leadoff single on her followup. I remember neither the name of the song nor the name of the album, and I don't think I'll look them up, because life is too short.
It was the cola commercial
The Public said " No Thank You " to the horrendous Yes Please by Happy Mondays.
Shaun and Bez returned blazing a little later, however, with Black Grape. Possibly the unlikeliest comeback ever.
Great video! I enjoyed watching this! I was thinking you could put Nelly Furtados 2nd album on there and then 2 of her albums would be on there.
Cut the Crap by The Clash is the one that comes to my mind right away- had the breakthrough with mainstream success with Combat Rock and then the partial breakup of the band led to this. Now it's often viewed as a quasi-Joe Strummer solo album and lots of people don't consider it a "real" Clash album.
Joe’s quote of the year: “I’ve listened to every Britney Spears album for some reason”
I've never listened to one.
Nice to hear Ladytron get a brief mention.
Fun fact: michael jackson's "invincible" album is still to this day the most expensive album EVER recorded, costing 30 million to make .
Between 30 and 40, not 300
@TastesLikeMusic oops my bad on typo ill edit that
That’s an insane amount of money considering it doesn’t contain a single song that would be considered a Jackson classic. Compared to Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad where virtually every track is well-known worldwide.
I love Tusk...
Jason is absolutely right about Alessia Cara. Def Jam signed her and had no idea what to do with her. She was never going to be a teen idol or a sex symbol. She had a very interesting vibe to her that might have been cool if allowed to develop organically. But there was such a huge push behind her, and she was the wrong person for that push.
Pity because I find her likeable as hell.
And her albums are pretty good
Tusk is my favorite Fleetwood Mac album. I gave up on U2 when Songs of Innocence was put on everyone's phone, and before that U2 were my second favorite band for years... That did it for me, plus the album wasn't good.
This really confuses me. You got a free album. I listened to it and then deleted it cause I had the CD preordered.
Tusk and Gaucho are excellent, had big hits and sold millions. "Sara" is played a lot on the radio still. They don't belong on this list. Solar Power was (and remains) a very enjoyable album for me. I wonder if her foolish decision not to press CD versions played into the lackluster sales. That's why I didn't buy it.
L' Album "Invincible"de"MJ"s'est vendu à plus de 8 millions d'exemplaires avec seulement
2 clips/Singles ! Un beau résultat pour un disque que "Sony" avait condamné avant même sa sortie !
"Pinkerton" by Weezer could have been on this list. One of those great albums that flopped at the time.
Second Coming is quite good. It gets quite weak in the middle, but its got loads of good tracks. How Do You Sleep in particular is as good as anything on the debut. Squire's guitar playing is on fire too. Definitely a step down from the debut, but still a really solid album.
I love “Driving South”. I think Squire’s more Page/Beck direction was cool, but it confused people that wanted more “Manchester” sounds.
I LOVE Second Coming and still listen to it quite often. But yeah, the debut is an all-timer.
I think the long wait adversely impacted the way it was received.
@@Ianmackable true. And like someone above mentioned, the sound changed too much. It was no longer as “Madchester” or even as British. Like the Brits who swear by early Pink Floyd but don’t care for the stuff that made them huge in the states.
Second Coming is dull 😑
Flops are always really interesting to talk about especially when the turn around is so fast like Robin Thicke and Katy Perry. Even when you live through it and see it happen before your eyes it can still be kinda funny to think about, especially in Katy's case. She seemed unstoppable for several years and then she just... wasn't. Also this made me realize I know literally nothing about Duffy outside from that one hit and I lived through that too.
Glitter made me so sad at the time and I always over corrected a bit in defending it. But it is a pretty messy album and the movie is indefensible. It was all just a really bad idea.
Really enjoying the March Badness tier lists, lots of fun!
Duffy has a very sad and distressing story after her hit album. It affected her so much that she basically disappeared.
@@lovelyguy5345that is really sad to hear.
Stadium Arcadia. Not sure there were expectations tho.
If you mean "Stadium Arcadium" by RHCP, in no way shape or form is that album a flop. It's certainly my favorite RHCP album and John Frusciante did an unbelievable job on that album.
Tusk is by far my favorite Fleetwood Mac album!
The songs aren't as played to death as the stuff from Rumors.
@@iamsoverybored878 That's because the songs aren't even close to as good as the ones on Rumors. Seriously songs can't be overplayed if they are never played and what do you hear from Tusk except Sara and occasionally the tile track. Everybody had huge expectations for Tusk and then on release it was WTF? It took 'em three years but Mirage was a nice comeback, an album that I think is very underrated.
@mjhbuckeye It was my first Fleetwood Mac album I listened to. I picked it because I had never really heard any of the songs before. I heard of Tusk because it was used in the first episode of The Americans
Which makes you very young, not that there is anything wrong with that. I was a college senior when Tusk came out. Now we all bought it day 1, which explains its high chart position, but that was on the strength and reputation of the previous two albums. On dropping the needle, I don't know anyone who wasn't sorely disappointed. Being a contemporary makes the flop nature of Tusk much more acute.
Fairweather Johnson killed Hootie and the Blowfish’s momentum
Paula sold 530 copies in its first week in the UK and something like 54 in Australia in its first week. The exact figure was unknown, but it sold fewer than a Blondie compilation that sold 55.
Apparently on the brink of breaking into mainstream success The Gang Of Four followed up Songs Of The Free with the limp effort Hard & promptly disbanded.
Maybe they sensed that it would be too hard to reconcile rock stardom with their Marxist principles.
Bionic is a masterpiece. Deserves wayyy better
Vanilla Ice. His debut went to #1 and went 7x platinum USA alone. The follow up a couple years later did not chart in any country and did not certify. MC Hammer had similar results. There’s a lot of talk about how grunge killed hair metal in the early 90s, but I was in college at the time and we discussed even then that gangsta rap also killed dance rap, and it’s not acknowledged quite as much.
My theory is that the people who bought To the Extreme and Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em (or more precisely, had their parents buy those CDs for them) were very, very young people--meaning primary schoolchildren, or even toddlers. By the time the respective followups came along, those children had grown up a bit, and knew better, and had probably moved on to Ice Cube.
my VH III take is i dont really dislike it, and side note in camp on discord , i had van halen and got by using 2 songs of this album and it seemed to be noteworthy lol🐯
I like Tusk a lot. But it's a very disjointed listen. Still like it though especially the Lindsay Buckingham tunes.
Just listen to these 2 songs on here (RUclips) 1) The Loud Family - "Good, there are no lions in the street" . and 2) Game Theory - "We Love You Carol and Alison". I promise - you will go "That was interesting...." Just 2 songs will hook you into this band from San Francisco . OR- come back and go "Yeah - that sucked". I am fine with that.
I could add Wings Back to the Egg but I'll get pelters. Or McCartney 2. But I won't mention them.
McCartney II at least has a #1 hit on it. Back to the Egg came and went without leaving a trace.
Topic suggestion…”not bad meaning bad, but bad meaning good”…how about (arguably) good/great records from otherwise shitty bands e.g. RHCP Blood Sugar Sex Magic??
Pete Townshend's 'Psychoderelict' should be on this list.
The Cars' Door To Door wasn't a terrible record. A few decent ones on there. Problem is that it was excepted as a bargain bin album and a track like Coming Up You was played notoriously at a nearby Denny's. 😂
Britney Jean has been certified gold recently, with certified sales of 500,000+.
It had potential, but the whole mess with Myah Marie (not blaming her; Britney's awful team is most at fault) caused it to flop.
i dont get the stone roses hatred ,, this is the daybreak was my #3 SOTY , it came after what is considered a alltime critically acclaimed album🐯
Hey, bengal. I don't get the Stone Roses hatred, either. 🎶💜💜
There are a couple of failures or disappointments. Well there are loads but two for me. Beauty Stab ABC. After the super-duper Lexicon of Love. And Hot Motion by Temples. I was so disappointed.
With you on both. - Joe
Well I love that Duffy LP
The U2 free album fiasco is funny in retrospect but at the time I got annoyed at how outraged a lot of people were getting, like their lives had been violated. I just thought…please, have some perspective, worse things are happening in the world than a free album dropping onto your phone that you don’t have to listen to.
To me that whole episode is memorable mostly as an example of unchecked superstar hubris. It's kind of mind-boggling that they--i.e. Bono--would assume everyone would be grateful to have the new lousy U2 album in their phone.
Yeah, two things I remember about that time... U2 gracing us with their bad album (and I like some U2 a lot) and the fact that iPhones had such little storage back then on certain models and you had an album "forced" on there. But yes, real world problems. @@Ianmackable
thought fashion critics were vicious 😂 Fergie- hated her hated them, Boston most fans dead, FM- millions on coke, most copies in landfill😂if Idol, Def Leopard stuck to formula they would have been back in vogue
The Loud Family - Jimmy Still Comes Around - 1993
St. Anger?
Robin Thicke is an affront to humanity, and it’s a laugh riot that his garbage album Paula sold less in England than your average amateur musician sells on the streets of NYC in a week lmao.
Van Halen III was just a horrible decision, good gawd the lyrics are aggressively bad lol!
Gaucho is a good album, not bad at all, not even close, but it is probably my least favorite of their classic run.
Slang is a total embarrassment!
The Billy Idol album is also a total cringe factory and has probably my least favorite cover of all time in his dance punk cover of The VU’s Heroin.
Door to Door is The Cars’ worst album by a wide margin, except for Go Away which was their last great song.
Chinese Democracy probably doesn’t deserve *all* of its reputation, but it is pretty bad and the music and story behind it are definitely impossible to separate.
Lastly, the U2 album isn’t terrible, but the marketing campaign was horrible, Joe lol. The reason why it was so hated wasn’t necessarily because people got the album for free, it’s because you couldn’t delete it. After the first week, they literally made the very first Apple-made deletion page for the album lol.
Some of these albums should have never been made sure.
One thing they have in common with myself...
That’s harsh!
tusk , interesting, i find it very overated and i had it really low during mac week , but i do feel im in a minorty tho 🐯
Hey, bengal! I didn't care for this album too much. 🎶💜💜
Chinese Democracy was destined to be a flop. It was an okay album but was so long in the making it would never live up to expectations especially with a totally new band in tow.
It was such a mishmash of styles and sounds it's like Axl was trying to keep up with every music trend that came and went from the mid 1990's through mid 2000's. Some of it is classic rock and roll and hard rock, part of it is wanna be Nine Inch Nails, and another part is weird Limp Bizkit or Korn style rap-rock. And it's over-produced.
Setting out to make the most epic and diverse record of all time almost makes it destined to fail. The best rock albums just kind of happen like Appetite for Destruction did when a band is on the same page and hungry.
What?? Solar Power in a flop album list with the likes of Britney Spears and "Guns´n´Roses" (I mean c´mon CD is an Axl Rose Album) and "Boston"? Feels completely random because musically it´s absolutlely fine. Confusing...
Being a flop has very little to do with the actual quality of the music.
@@TastesLikeMusic It can have something (or many things) to do with other things besides the quality of the music, but I'd say that's still the biggest factor.
Listen to "Interbabe Concern" by the Loud Family. It will blow your mind IF you like alternative music . It's kinda like The New Pornographers meet Todd Rundgren and said "Lets do an album like A Wizard a True Star" . And I know y'all hate my dumb opinions - but I am begging you !!!!! Their Masterpieces: "Birds and Plants and Rocks and Things" and "Lolita Nation" . And "Interbabe Concern". And "Days for Days". I 100% guarantee when you hear it: you will be "Well, that was interesting" . The SECOND TIME you hear it - it will HOOK you in . I PROMISE YOU GUYS> And you will be all "How come we never heard of this?" .
Attn : Lannie Lord - Please Stop ! 😆 🤣
I’m torn. The comments are good for the algorithm. But the content of them could be better.
@@TastesLikeMusicHe's certainly well intended
I'm surprised you picked a Happy Mondays album not because it wasn't a flop but because I have never heard any of you mention them ever.
Needs more Lull
Supergroups tier list?
Good one
@@TastesLikeMusic Scared what you both will give Zwan 😅
Witness isn't bad, though.
Gaucho is a masterpiece.
Door To Door 🚪 is so mediocre it broke the band up !
i like billy idol but cyber punk is truly awful, i quit him then!!🐯
Yes , it was awful !
Boring ..But I pick Purdue in March Madness.
@@davidellis5141 iv filled a few brackets and uconn looks amazing , but ive been on the houston bandwagon for a long time , but that game vs iowa st showed some offensive flaws
Yep, me as well.
@@davidellis5141 ugh my comment is gone, i pick houston , i have been on the bandwagon for awhile, tho that iowa st game worries me some, , houston didnt need that win at all, but surprised coach sampson didnt have them ready to play
How are you rating these? Objectively? We want your opinions Jason!
Where is the 3rd guy?
He’s invisible now
Richard Hell's 2nd album ?
Are you guys going to review Kacey Musgraves' new album? POSSIBLY do her whole discography?
It's actually really good ..
I think we missed the boat
@@davidellis5141 i liked it also
OFF TOPIC: I really hope you guys will give a listen to Game Theory and The Loud Family !!!!!!! They were on Alias Records -- 1980s & 1990s. PLEASE LISTEN !!!!!!
It's not going to happen ! 😆 🤣
Scott Miller was such a brilliant songwriter
Thank you ! @@sammo2560
Why ? @@davidellis5141
You really listened to all of these albums and formed opinions on them? 🙈
Not all of them. Some we just guessed.
@@TastesLikeMusic I know this is supposed to be only a fun show but guessing the quality of any piece of art does not really raise your credibility as critics and is super disrespectful to the artist. I really like your channel but as a music fan I am not interested in „guesses“ and don‘t consider this a cool or funny move, just to let you know. : )
@wernermoritz882 we weren’t judging them as art. We were judging them as flops or not, which is based on commercial performance, not artistic merit.
@@TastesLikeMusic sorry, I did not get what you are actually judging here.
Dee Lite's 2nd album ?
Remember they played them in Career Opportunities with Jennifer Connelly on rollerskates at Target 🎯 !
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was the biggest flop for me. I rushed out to buy it, expecting Siamese Dream part 2 and all I got was a double dose of let down.
Is this real life?
Mellon Collie is way better than Siamese Dream.
@@djtforever1414 LOL no way.
@@ChesterCopperpott02 Oh it's real. Unlike the unrealistic valuations of this double flop with cheesy.
Which dimension are you from?
Every DEVO album after Freedom of Choice ?
Nirvana : Sorry to everyone - In Utero is mostly bad but for 2 or 3 songs . Heart Shaped Box is LAZY .
That is an incorrect opinion.
Right. Don't be sorry though I understand the pressure to conform is good on this site with insidious/less insidious comments from the hosts keep us in line. Kidding, but only in a way though sure the interaction adds some fun to the show.
MTV Unplugged was much better than In Utero. Utero had disappointing sales until Kurt died. Heart Shaped Box and the attention getting chorus "hey, wait! I’ve got a new complaint" is weak because it's hokey. Song could be about Kurt's fear of women who appear innocent on the outside and then suck the life out of a you. Never met a woman like that myself though, Lannie. :)
Did Kramzer leave or something
Yes
Gary Numan album after Pleasure Principle .
Do you mean Telekon? That album was number 1 in UK, his third UK number 1 album in 18 months, 2 UK top 10 singles from the Telekon sessions. You make an interesting point though, something can flop in USA like Robbie Williams but be a massive hit outside the USA...like Robbie Williams
Agree - Gary was bigger in the UK @@alanchapman7918
EVERY MARILYN MANSON ALBUM AFTER Mechanical Animals !!!!!!!!!
Why is Dead Ringer by Meat Loaf on there, that's a good album
Good albums can flop
I didn’t even like Meat Loaf at all; Jim Steinman’s arrangements and Todd Rundgren’s playing and production pretty much carried him. However, nah, I think Dead Ringer is a straight up bad album.
@@curly_wyn Too bad he didn't do Bad For Good which I think is excellent even with Steinman doing the vocals. Bat II is basically a re-recording of Bad For Good and It's pretty good. Face it, he was never going to be able to reach the same heights as the first album. Anything after that would pale.
@@mjhbuckeye he did bad for good on Bat Out Of Hell 3 it's even got Brian May on guitar
@@curly_wyn I meant the album, not the individual song. Most of the cuts from the album Bad For Good are on Bat II
The Strokes 2nd album ?
Smashing Pumpkins: Everything after Melloncollie !!
So true.
Second Coming is definitely a flop but it’s severely underrated. Ten Storey Love Song and Love Spreads are fantastic songs.
I agree, I guess because they're the only two I remember thirty years later.
@@Ianmackable Breaking Into Heaven is pretty cool too
I'll concede that. @@sammo2560
Got the same treatment as Be Here Now, both pretty fantastic imo.
The NIN album after Downward Spiral ?
KISS solo albums: Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons.
Elvis Costello : 1990s albums.
You are on a great roll.
It took until Costello's 2002 album 'When I was Cruel' to redeem him with 3 good songs to start the record. Also his '90s album with Burt Bacharach has the great "I Still Have That Other Girl (on my mind)". Personally I don't like many of his 80 albums which lack the punch of his first 5 records. OK so he made silly puns and rhymes to some (which I like) but his melodies were better than his later stuff.
Funnily enough, I remember the amazing Get Happy!! being called a flop in 1980 because it only sold roughly half of what its predecessor, Armed Forces, had sold.
@@Ianmackable I love Get Happy! Could be Elvis' best after This Years Model. I like Taking Liberties and his other 70 records were all great.
David Bowie TONIGHT ? or SHIDDY Glass Spider .
Tonight has some excellent tracks - Loving the Alien and Blue Jean for example. Sold pretty well.
Don't forget Tin Machine and Tin Machine II.
URGE OVERKILL ; Exit the Dragon .
Television's 2nd album.
Not much of an adventure 😕 !
I don't care. It really doesn't matter to me.
Aerosmith Draw the Line.
That album is actually pretty great despite the circumstances. Just Push Play is abysmal.
Get that Cars album out of there now. It's not their best work but the second side is heat. Panorama is a worse album in my opinion.
Panorama is underrated ..Door To Door is 🥱 ! Double Trouble the only viable track.
@@davidellis5141 Everything on the 2nd side works except Go Away
Pano rules. D2D sux. - Joe
@@TastesLikeMusic 80% of the 2nd side of Door To Door is on par with their best. Panorama sounds like a poorly mixed Devo without the catchiness.
Slang is one of Def Leppard's best records. Only Pyromania beats it.
Stone Roses 2nd album.
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
It's flat and dull @@bengalgangster
@@LannieLord well we differ so much but thats ok,
I went back and tried to like them again....Same thing with the Sugarcubes. Did not work. I was all "What?" I used to love this. @@bengalgangster
Talking Heads Naked ?
Naked is very good.
Little Creatures was a HUGE seller - that was my Main issue. @@aisu825
Led Zeppelin In Through the Out Door.
No excuse for All Of My Love !
@@davidellis5141that’s one of the better songs on the bizarrely bland album
@@iancocks9408 "Fool in the Rain" is one of my favorite Zeppelin tracks, and "In the Evening" is quite decent. But certainly, the album as a whole will never be regarded as top-tier Zeppelin. In terms of disappointment of initial expectations, I think a lot of people would submit 'Presence'.
Rolling Stones : Everything after Tattoo You.
What is your definition of flop? Steel Wheels for one was very successful.
Who cares whether an album sold anything? If it’s good, it’s good. If it’s bad. It’s bad. Such superficial analysis.
The point of this tier list isn’t if it’s good or bad. Do you have a comprehension problem?
@@TastesLikeMusic there sure was a lot about what you did and did not like in the video for it not to be about that, but ok. Let me guess, you are the one with the stupid hat on your head, right? The person least knowledgeable in the whole group with the lamest opinions.
@@m45611u Yes, because an album's quality is going to affect whether it's a flop or not. It'd be a really boring video if they just listed off a bunch of critic scores and averaged them.
Suede's 2nd album ?
I really didn't like it much but I remember the music press at the time loving it and I think it did pretty well sales wise. And it's still regarded as one of their best album. Give me Coming Up anyday.
yr joking
@@alexmac337The Best 👌 Suede album .. The Chemistry ⚗️ Between Us & Filmstar !