N54 Ebay 19t V4 @26psi! (One Month Review) (Tuner Pro Changes!!)
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- Опубликовано: 8 мар 2023
- In This video I go into detail how to make tuning changed using Tuner Pro and MHD when swapping from 17t to 19t turbos
2008 bmw 335xi e92 turbo install. these were purchased through ebay. not the VIV version, but they are the 4th version of the 19t
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water pump 10nm + 90
control arms 74ft lbs +90
tie rod end 55ft lbs
sway bar to subframe 16ft lbs
sway bar end links 44ft lbs
rack & pinion 41ft lbs +90
motor mount bracket to engine 48ft lbs
motor mount to subframe 18 ft lbs
subframe 80ft lbs
Turbo manifold nuts 15 ft lbs
manifold studs 7.4ft lbs
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Wolfbox18%off : wolfbox.com/?ref=6qe918okIn This video I go into detail how to make tuning changed using Tuner Pro and MHD when swapping from 17t to 19t turbos
2008 bmw 335xi e92 turbo install. these were purchased through ebay. not the VIV version, but they are the 4th version of the 19t
ebay.us/fBzU7k
water pump 10nm + 90
control arms 74ft lbs +90
tie rod end 55ft lbs
sway bar to subframe 16ft lbs
sway bar end links 44ft lbs
rack & pinion 41ft lbs +90
motor mount bracket to engine 48ft lbs
motor mount to subframe 18 ft lbs
subframe 80ft lbs
Turbo manifold nuts 15 ft lbs
manifold studs 7.4ft lbs
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Looks like you are in AZ too. And huge thanks for your tuning vids, helped me a lot.
Yupp! I am in az! Love it here. And of course! Glad to hear they helped
Yeah i wouldn't mind seeing a bit more of tuner pro, it's something I've been doing myself but its always good to see another person's usage.
Your loads are all different to mine because of your map sensor upgrade. 🍻
Yeah definitely! It seems like there's quite a few people interested! I will see what I can do for us diy'ers!
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Can’t wait to see another update in a bit 👀
Definitely! I'm working on making some tuner pro videos also! ✌️✌️🤙🤙👌👌
Cool vid, am definitely interested in seeing more tuner pro content
Thank you! And thanks for showing interest in tuner pro! I'd be excited to make some videos on it hopefully someday soon!
@@jku392adventure Could you make an in depth video making a tune? Would tuner pro work for a single turbo setup?
Tuner pro will definitely work with a single turbo, I believe it's what most people use to tune all the bmws. But yeah I will do my best to make a diy tutorial for tuner pro 🤙
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Ive changed my opinion on air flow adder.
It can make you clip load and boost targets meaning it will reduce actual throttle vs pedal.
Its too broad a brush.
Great video ;)
It is definitely too broad of a brush to depend on for all areas of your boost 🤙
And thank you! Glad you enjoyed 🤙🤙
For future reference (this goes for VE and Airflow calculations to get proper AFR as well), you should be able to take your measured (actual) and divide it by the target and that is the percentage change you should apply to the table. Instead of having to guesswork it until you get it right this formula should speed up your process a lot! Thank you for the videos I'm used to boost based tuning and not load based and your videos have helped me navigate the software a lot better.
Hey thanks! That's a good point. I usually do that when I'm doing stft tuning on my hemi. Using a percentage. I recently started doing percentages for the wgdc also and it is working much better. The new MHD boost by gear is so good though that it's not as complicated as it used to be
@@jku392adventure Yessir!!! I just wanted to pass that on it really makes a big difference in how quickly you can get through the tables and get everything dialed in perfectly!
@@jku392adventure Also SICK Jeep! I had a 03 Rubicon that I built a 5.2 Magnum with cam and heads and that thing was my baby!
Nice videos, want to see more on tuner pro diy tune. 😊
Thank you! And sounds like a plan, I'll get some videos together soon 🤙
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Again love the content! Thanks to install videos you posted I was able to go in on my e60 535xi 17T upgrade. You really helped me out big time dude.
She was pulling really hard but then my oil drain line slit in half and was shooting oil all over the cats. Car caught on fire for about 20 seconds ( fire extinguisher) saved my beautiful e60. Have you had any issues with your lines? Did you upgrade or reuse?
I went with FCP EURO rear turbo line and was able to get the old one off while the turbos and everything still on lol. Praying it will all go back in without any pain
No problem! Thanks! And wow! I'm sorry to hear that, I've actually never had that issue luckily! I've reused all of my old lines actually, but some videos I've watched recommend changing the lines out. But I don't believe it's necessary but your situation tells me differently!
Yes I always keep a fire extinguisher! Good thing you had one available also! 🙏🙏
Theres an aftermarket solution for the oil lines from block to turbo
Thanks for the great content!!
I have the VIV 19t V4 for some time now
I’m now doing a tune, but having problems that it doesn’t reach target and stays 2 psi below
Sometimes pid times out and won’t make boost at all
Done numerous boost leak checks and replaced boost solenoids and vacuum lines
Will pid adjustment help out?
What I would do is look at how much wgdc the actual pid is adding to get the amount of boost your requesting. If it's adding a lot then I would look at adjusting your base wgdc table and adding in there first. And I believe increase the wgdc ceiling table might help that also. Let me know what you find out if you give that a try 🤙🤙✌️✌️
Great update video! You should do a 1/4 mile dragy run. Im curious to see what your car would run! Seems like a beast! Did you have to make any adjustments or modifications to the wastegates before installing them?
Hey I definitely need to do that, I don't have a dragy yet, last time I tracked it with the 17ts and it was running like poop I only got an 11.9 😭, but it's much faster now. And for the wastegates, I didn't have to adjust them. I did have to gring down some of the bracket to fit around a water line. Thanks for the comment! 🤙🤙
@@jku392adventure i bought these turbos and are about to install, which coolant line was in the way?
Hey! It was from my video 2, here's the clip that talks about where you need to grind a little
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It would be interesting to get a video series on tuning with tuner pro.
Copy that ! Actually already starting to work on some 👌👌🤙🤙
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Interested in the tuner pro I think I used that back in the day in my Sn95 mustang
You probably did, it's a pretty common platform, but great! Thanks for letting me know your interested! 🤙🤙
Hello. When you said the 19Ts make more boost with less wastegate duty cycle, does that imply that the 19Ts are less prone to wastegate rattle? Thanks
Hey, that's not necessarily a true correlation, the wastegate rattle is more from the sloppy wastegates rattling against the wastegate arm. So unfortunately if they are cheap turbos, they could start to rattle eventually. But mine have been perfect. Even my viv 17t that I had for 3 years didn't rattle
0:32 You mentioned, that the 19t spool ~200rpm later than 17t.
Can you say they fell laggy or unresponsive to e.g. stock or 17t‘s?
Still struggling on the decision if these would suit for a dd.
My thoughts, if you were to only want to push your car to 18psi, go with stock size or maybe 17t. If you wanted to get more power, higher boost, I felt that the 19ts were easier to tune, and the boost curve is very smooth compared to the 17t. I wouldn't run 17ts again on my car whether I was doing low boost or higher boost. Either stockers or 19t.
Daily the 19ts are not bad at all. But if only pushing 18psi you'll notice more lag. If pushing more, then 19ts are worth it 100%
Hey how many miles do you have on them now? Thinking about getting a set myself but worried about quality.
I've only had them for about 7 months but I've had zero issues with them. Not exactly sure on miles
Did you do any balancing or rebuilding or did you just throw these in out of the box? Great video, very informational!
Thanks for watching! And I didn't rebuild or rebalance, just threw them in and they are still running good and strong 🤙🤙
@@jku392adventure Great to hear! I may have to pick up a set to cure my horrible wastegate rattle and blown turbo seals lol.
@@bsm_e9217 yeah these will definitely help with that ! And help you make more power! I put the link in the description for everyone 👌👌
I have the same turbos and can't get them to boost higher than 26psi, have you raised your boost past 26?
I read somewhere that the v4 manifold was the restriction.
On the plus side 26psi absolutely hauls ass!
They definitely haul! What is your wgdc? Have you checked for a boost leak?
how much power are making this on pump gas? and what boost? got an 535xi bmw e60 N54.
On 91 probably not making too much power, I keep it like 16psi, still feels fast, but no records being set. And nice! Good car 🤙
I have 17T turbos and i'm curious to know what boost target i should choose on 91/93/E40 fuels in your opinion because i've searched on forums but was nothing clear there,thank you
Sorry for the delayed reply. For the 17t turbos, and all supporting mods you can easily push them to 24-26 psi on e40. But you will need supporting mods, lpfp and either port injection or the helix overdrive. Without the extra hpfp upgrades, you can usually get around 20-21 psi on e40.
On 91/93 you can likely get be safe with 16-18 psi but not soon much timing. Or a little more timing a some less boost. It's a delicate balance
@@jku392adventure I saw your video with the upgraded fuel pump and i thinking to upgrade mine too and also to buy a flex-fuel small one of 200$ and the B58 coil packs upgrade then i think the things will be safe but till then i will use the car only with stage 2 450LH Walbro LPFP and i will use premium fuel when i want some extra horsepower,this 17T with the right amount of boost and fuel injection are good for 500+ WHP.
Also timing could be a good upgrade but i'm very noob at the moment in using tuning software but by looking your videos i think i will be able to adjust the boost and pressure on my turbos in a good manner.
I have also Inlets+outlets and 7.5 INCH intercooler(the biggest available in plug-in ATM and i want to know what i should modify to have more quantity of air validated well for the engine?
Thank you for your dedication and time to put this really valuable informations on your channel
Any dyno graphs to compare the power delivery?
Unfortunately not, my buddy did an online power assessment that's supposedly pretty accurate and it rated my car at 633hp
Want to see full run down on TunerPro
Copy that! Gonna get some videos up pretty soon 🤙🤙👌👌
Good vid. How long did you have the 17ts in or how many miles really ??
The 19ts have a higher boost threshold causing then to spool at higher rpms hitting full boost later in rpms. Turbo lag is from an old Turbo where seals are going bad and boost isn't consistent through out the Powerband or spool as quick as they used to.
Hey! Thanks! I had the 17ts for about 3 years and only 20k miles before one decided to pop it's oil seals (that's my guess) but one also went bad less than a year old and I had to change the internal wastegatea components.
And I will say the 19ts are very consistent with their boost numbers. The 17ts were harder to achieve boost targets accurately
@@jku392adventure that's what worries me about viv and other brand of twins. I'm so stumped on twins or st. Really want to stay with twins tbh but not too fond of pures and for the price of rbs I'd rather go with flowmax+ . Everyone stands by pures and rbs but even ebay/Amazon from what I seen here on yt perform better but reliability is the factor. I was asking about the viv 17t cause I know the 17ts have been revise and trialed with more. 19ts even tho v4 are still fresh. was debsting on some viv or fapo.
@@99sitrrz yeah I definitely understand your point of view. My buddy told me to stay away from fapo and buy Viv but my Viv 17ts went bad! So I figured I would just get the cheapest V4 19ts that the turbo unbolts from the manifold. That way it's easier to change if needed. I put the link to my turbos, but it's only been a month with them. So far I recommend them, but who knows what month 2 will say! Lol I'd say run some V4 19ts from any ebay brand and run them. Duck and pray! 🙏
@@jku392adventure Run them! Duck and pray! Lol some advice I'd give. I appreciate the feedback will definitely stay tuned for updates. Good luck hope they stay spoolin good.
Hahah it's definitely the best advice you can give someone 👌 🤣🤣, but yes! I will be keeping everyone updated on them, and I'm hoping I have some interest in the tuner pro side! Not trying to sell tunes, just help others make tuning changes. We will see! 🤙🤙
I ordered my v4 t19 , do you think it will run fine with the MHD stage 2+ e40 mix , I’ve seen people run mhd with these turbos
I've never actually run them with MHD, they will likely make even less boost than what a stock turbo would make on the same tune, but in theory you should be alright to run them. Just check stft, and make sure your not pulling timing
How are the turbos treating you bro?
They are still running strong! No smoke, and keeping them around 26psi!
@@jku392adventuresend me your tune
@@jku392adventurenice bout to get myself a set how many miles so far?
Is the turbo inlet 2inch or still 1.75inch
Hi! They are 2 inch inlets 🤙🤙
I had 17ts for 6 months and got wastegate rattle… should I even try with these 19ts or go pure 600s
I've had great luck so far with my 19t's, I'm definitely happy that I went this route instead of going for the pure 600s, because I was debating that also. So my recommendations would be to go for the 19t's because you can definitely save some money and still make great power
Also I had my 17t's for 6 months and I had to pull them out and weld in new wastegates
I would like to know how to do my own tune plz
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i would like to see more on tuner pro
Deal 🤙🤙🤙
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how are they running bro? just ordered some hoping they will last me 3 months until i go single
@@slitherdurant they are holding strong! Zero complaints at 26 psi!
@@jku392adventure let’s go happy to hear that
What’s the exhaust setup?
It's a diy 3.5" exhaust with a magnaflow muffler
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are they viv? what seller are they from
They are not viv, they are from a company called speedy turbo, on eBay, that's about all I know. I put the link in the video description, but they show unavailable right now. Just search the same brand, usually the sellers link only lasts a few months
Interested in tuner pro content for the N54
Perfect! It seems there are several people interested so far 🤙
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are you on e 85?
It's Arizon e54 lol but yes
Instalo outlets upgrade?
Yeah it's upgraded vrsf inlets and outlets. Relocated inlets
@@jku392adventure saludos from argentina n54 4 life
Very awesome! And yes! N54 4 life! 🤙🤙💪💪
V46+6 or 11 blades ? Just curious
Mine are the 6+6 9 blade
N no regrets?
@@8mula my only regret was getting 17ts first instead of going right to these 19ts
Yeah I’m asking cuz I have the 19t on right now but the v3 I believe… looking for them again but I saw ur video so ima go with the d4 now …
@@8mula yeah the v4 are good, I feel like they are holding up great, how are your v3 19ts holding up? What's making you upgrade?
any thoughts on 19t v3 vs v4?
I think they will be comparable, but I went with the v4 because I heard they updated a few things internally. But also the fact that if the turbos blow, you can unbolt them from the manifold instead of having to unbolt the whole exhaust manifold
@@jku392adventure oh okay makes sense. how much of a difference in labor does the separate manifold make on doing a turbo job?
@@6mtcruiser depends, on my car, it would involve me removing the intake piping and working from both the top side and bottom side. My last 17t viv, I had to remove the turbos after 6 months to weld in a new waste gate
@@jku392adventure so now that you’ve had them for a while, what’s your verdict on their reliability? how many miles have you put on them? i plan to run them around 20 psi e40 on my 335 i know they can make great power im just concerned as it seems to be rolling the dice, esp some crap out in less than 5k miles
@@6mtcruiser it's been about a year and I can say I am still pleased with these turbos, I push mine hard, so at 20psi they will definitely last longer than mine will. They are still running strong and not blowing smoke. The car does have a little bit of smoke being catless and about 180 thousand miles. But it's been minimal with all my turbos. Yes it's a gamble, but are you installing yourself? Pure 600s is another good option. But up to you
They still holding up?
Hey! They are still doing great! I sometimes can see a little smoke out of the exhaust, but that hasn't changed since the day I installed them. Probably the catless dp and 174k miles on my motor don't help 😂😂 so far, zero complaints. I love hearing them spool with minimal throttle 🤙
Awesome. My E90 has 181k and the stock turbos have wastegate rattle so I was thinking about getting the RB Oem billets. I'm not looking for big power maybe like 400 at most. I want a turbo that can last because I put at least 100 miles a day on my car (highway). I look into them more.
Oh wow, that's a lot of miles a day! And yeah I would recommend these turbos, but also if you do the install yourself, if they did go bad. You could always have them rebuild. Esp because they can unbolt from the manifold which would make it easier to remove. Or you could also buy them and have the internals rebuilt and balanced from turbo lab of America. But I'd buy them and run them first imo
I wanna learn
Check out these videos
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I can’t wait to have my e90 awd manual swap - auto is boring
I have an extra awd manual transmission in Phoenix if you need one! Haha
And also I plan on swapping in an 8hp someday! Those are definitely fun
@@jku392adventure I’m in Los Angeles
need to learn how to tune
I have tuning tutorials 👌 on my channel
You didn’t even break the tires loose on stock wheels 😂😂😂
I was trying to be easy on it hahaha 🤣 it will break them loose, but only in first and second since it's awd