What's RUINING Xbox?
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2023
- Microsoft somehow has all the cards, but refuses to play any of them...
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Even as a PlayStation fan. It's still hard to see Xbox go through several rough patches from Mattrick single-handedly destroying their image in an hour to everything going on with the Activision aquesition. Hopefully they keep moving forward and find an identity within the gaming industry
Also a Playstation owner, I hope XBOX recovers. It is never good to let Sony get too comfortable.
@@Raziel312 Sony has already proved they can fuck up when they get too smug as shown with the PS3 reveal and how they have pretty much won every console generation except maybe 8th depending if the Switch counts as 8th or 9th gen gaming
@@makotoplush9776 How homogenized their current output is and the state that the PS5 is in even a few years later (Although that's not to say Xbox isn't screwing up big-time either) goes to show that they're repeating what made the PS3 bad (or at least extremely rocky) at the beginning. God of War: Ragnarok has some writing problems, Sony killed Japan Studio (their own first-party development house in Japan) in favor of an Astro coalmine, Naughty Dog is a one-trick pony with toxic crunch culture attached at this point (The Last of Us), and Destiny (they bought out Bungie) is literally everything wrong with live service games. I remember the PS2 days when they had a game for everybody (SOCOM, ATV Offroad Fury, sports games, JRPGs, you name it) filling different niches and interests, but nowadays, games (especially western ones) play it so safe, that they make a single overly expensive game that attempts to appeal to everybody while not having anything particularly special or interesting (beyond a thematic sense) about it.
Except only this time, Sony doesn't have the OtherOS (Fun fact: The PS2 and the PS3 had the ability to run Linux on it, so they could sell the systems in European territories without dealing with an extra tax for game consoles that only play games), free online multiplayer, the vast majority of the multimedia functionality (CD playback coming straight to my mind), and backwards compatibility (With PS3 games and older) going for it. The PS3 mostly felt like a premium product, and the PS4 was a breath of fresh air (at least early on) from what Microsoft was pushing. Honestly, I'm fine waiting a few years for Sony's games to come to PC, because I still have zero interest in buying a PS5 except for when it gets a custom firmware and homebrew, so I can play older PS4 games with better performance (Lance MacDonald's Bloodborne patch comes to mind) and single-player mods. My bluray drive can rip my PS3 (and older) disc based games just fine, so I'm fine with emulation as well. Final Fantasy 16 has enough issues, and even if it was a perfect game, I'm not paying $600+ (keeping in mind sales tax, being forced to buy a Horizon bundle because Sony doesn't sell just the base system anymore as a way to pad out the cost, and the cost of the game itself) just to play that one game either. I can say however that their controller (outside of having analog stick drifting problems) is the best one on the market right now.
@@makotoplush9776 I actually chose the Xbox 360 over the PS3.
@@makotoplush9776 They BARELY won the 360/PS3 generation, the first half Xbox whupped their complacent ass.
It wasn't until the 2nd half of it where they got their bearing, were humbled, and were forced to start trying again did they turn it around, and even then it wasn't a particularly huge victory.
Problem is the next generation Sony and Microsoft switched places on the Smug scale and Xbox basically fumbled the entire Xbox One/PS4 generation and given their obsession with Game Pass (Which isn't working.) the current generation doesn't seem to be going much better, if it is at all.
Sony needs the competition, cause now they are being smug again.
The issue with most big companies is that they hire corporate yes men that only focus on increasing profits. And they forget the players even exist!
Which is sad. Like Saber said Phil and some of the staff Xbox do care about games. The problem is like you said the corporate yes man (hence Halo Infinite and Redfall).
@@vagamer522yeah and i feel so sad everytime Phil blame himself of all the s*** happened with the brand over the years when in fact the ones to blame are these mfs with the suits on Microsoft
That can be apply to basically everything.
Xbox cares FAR more about the consumer than Playstation and Nintendo ever really have, espically now.
This is the worst of the 3 consoles to claim this about, coming from someone who doesn't own an XBox but just keeps tabs on all 3 and plays the games I care about.
@@_-Lx-_ Yet they are struggling.
The bottom line is, Microsoft first party title always coming to both PC and XBOX is fantastic for gamers, but kinda makes the box irrelevant if you do have a PC. In my opinion anyway.
I don't mind this since there are still millions that only play on console. Maybe if they released on console first then PC later could have been a better idea
they did say they weren't banking on console sales but on gamepass. The consoles are there for those that dont own a PC which surprisingly, a lot of people still refuse on. I know several people with macs just buy an xbox rather than troubleshoot running games on their macbook.
Probably what they're shooting for. Consoles typically sell at a loss, they're just worth it because people feel pressured to buy very profitable games ONLY from you, to justify the purchase and because they can't afford another. And yes, those $600 machines are losing money. Remember that the store you bought it from takes a large cut, often up to half. and the graphics cards and shipping and such are pricey. Plus all the development and assembly. Only reason they're still in the console game is for people with laptops and apple products (as linux users are often savvy enough to get the PC games working anyway.)
nah xbox series s is cheaper than a pc there no need to do the exclusive sony shit
@@tenkuken7168 You mean exclusive Nintendo shit? They are the ONLY ones who don't port to PC.
That “no sharing used games” attempt is why I give Gamepass the side-eye. It is good for those who can’t afford buying every game on its own, I still feel it’s an attempt to sneakily bring that back, and if it’s too successful they might start pulling “Gamepass exclusives” more often
Gamepass (and all game subscription services really) is a Trojan horse. It’s a good deal right now because they need to build a customer base, but give it another 5-10 years and it’s gonna be a lot less consumer friendly. Get ready for price increases, ad-friendly tiers, and games that are exclusive to the service and will otherwise be unavailable without paying the subscription fee (i.e., not being able to purchase it and own it forever).
that makes no sense? and even if we do end up in a future where *all* xbox is is gamepass (which is just not gonna happen).... theres still playstation.
@@2-Way_Intersection I’m talking games that’d be entirely Gamepass only, ie you cannot buy them elsewhere, just like how some shows are exclusive to Netflix or Hulu. This also means if those games get dropped off the service they’d be gone entirely
Its a subscription service. Buying games still exist lol. And sadly soon used games wont exist even for PlayStation. As a collector it hurts me
People really think Microsoft purchased Activision Blizzard and will not use them to control the market. They had to sign an agreement to release CoD on other platforms for the next 10 years, but after that it will most likely be a Xbox/Gamepass exclusive, because Sony confirmed the majority of PlayStation owners only buy and play CoD.
The problem with Xbox being the social platform that focuses on multiplayer and competetive games is that it's impossible to make a multiplayer game these days that isn't a live service hellscape, which people are very clearly getting sick of. Even at the best of times you can only have so many liveservices existing in the same space before they start cannabalizing each others audiences.
Yes every game has a battle pass which needs no lifing to complete. So people only play 1 game and stick to it. It's a big difference from the variety of games in the previous decade.
It’s still Don Mattrick’s horrendous E3 2013 BS, so much harm was done to Xbox that day and they’ve been climbing back ever since.
E3 was just the breaking point but everything surrounding the xbox one before release was a mess
@@valletasit even surpassed the Wii U presentation a year before too
They damaged the brand beyond repair with that Xbox One launch. It was a crucial time where players were switching from physical to digital games. Microsoft missed the change to lock a lot of players into their digital store. It is not just about buying games, it is about your profile, your achievements, your friend list, your playtime etc. Those things makes hard for people to switch over to another platform and restart everything from scratch, especially when Xbox competes directly with Sony, instead of trying to be its own thing, like Nintendo.
@@bluestar5812 worst is that they decided to do it again with the series x and just not tell everyone
At launch every digital game was locked to their own drm this exploded in their face when the servers were down some time ago meaning people could not play their games
The backlash was so severe that they have (to my research) completely removed it and are now working to even remove the drm from tbe retro compatible games
I want microsoft to compete but stuff like this makes me glad that they are in 3rd place because as much as i want sony to have a strong competitor i cant help but think that they will try this again in the next generation and again and again until people stop complaining
@@valletas Of course they will. Companies want full control, and always-online DRM is one of their biggest tools.
It's why they're heavily pushing digital and streaming.
Boy fanboys from XBOX are gonna send a lot of hate to this video while Sony fans start arguing with the Xbox ones
I mean he could make the same video about Sony during the PS3 era. This isn't fanboyism just honest facts as someone who owns a Series X
@@vagamer522 I’m just stating facts that they are gonna throw this video hate because they are so loyal to their brand that they will see and critique of it as slander. It happens with Sony fans too
@@shadewolf0075Sorry I wasn't trying to be an asshole trust me I know what you mean
@@vagamer522 it’s cool
Yeah why not. Stoke that fire. Start a war. Hurt somebody. It's the internet after all.
I used to work for Microsoft Games Studios way back in 2010. It's sad to see how far they've fallen.
What's the environment and the culture like back then under the leadership of Don Mattrick?
To be fair, Redfall is the fault of Archine leadership, and not Microsoft, the dev team was actually hoping Microsoft would cancel it after the acquisition, but they took a hands off approach to there studios
Their hands off approach, I think, has been a major issue since the 2nd generation.
You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If you manage the studio directly the fanboys cry that you're sucking the soul out of the studio and you're running it as a purely dollar sign investment. If you let them have complete autonomy and give them the resources needed to fulfill their goals and they fail it's your fault for not managing them. Fanboys will twist the logic to meet whatever their rhetoric is.
@@jamieo8840 Yes and no, control isn't really bad until microsoft got to the point they focused way too heavily on games for the Kinect. But they also need to be willing to have a more hands on approach to prevent studios under them from getting out of control or becoming just another Activision with scandals plaguing the studio.
Source on that?
Then don’t praise Microsoft for Hi-Fi Rush if you won’t blame them for Redfall.
Would be cool to hear you talk about one of the few good games: Hi-Fi Rush
I wanna see comparison of which character did the twin peaks reference better 808 or sir sparklepuff from the dragon prince.
I don’t know why so many people just pretend Psychonuats 2 doesn’t exist
@@nothisispatrick6528 sadly Psychonauts is a niche platformer
the first one didn't sell well if i heard right it didn't even broke the million number on all 3 platforms (PS2,Xbox and PC) at least it got a certain public to be a Cult Classic which thanks to that we got the sequel
HiFi Rush was kinda odd
Perfect game launch with very little bugs, fun gameplay that isn't concerned about attempting to make something that sounds profound (and falls flat on it's face doing so), and a fantastic PC version with very little flaws. Not to mention the fanfare from the stealth launch.
We really need more games like HiFi Rush nowadays. It really feels like a PS2 era game, back when western games had soul (I know it's by a Japanese developer, but you could hardly call it's premise or the developers themselves that), and back when games actually shipped complete at a price that isn't highway robbery.
At least the reason why xbox 360 did so well is because they had a lot of exclusives like JRPGs, RPGs, Action Adventure Games and Tactic RPGs. The reason why both the PS4/PS5/Nintendo Switch was because they had way more exclusives than just first person shoots which brought in a huge crowd of gamers. The Xbox Series X only had a few which didn't bring in a new wave of gamers.
That's debatable. The red ring of death is what killed the 360.
Funny enough, I had 2 360s and neither got RRoD. Still use them to this day @@rommix0
@@rommix0idk about that, cheaper and better models eventually came out and the console still sold very well
@@Dimebag-wx2rs but did those fix the red ring of death problem?
@@rommix0 I'm pretty certain they did. It was just an original 360 model problem iirc
What ruins Xbox for me is all the IPs they do nothing with. RIP Banjo-Kazooie, Conker, Kameo, and Viva Pinata...
I personally think Nintendo is worse than Microsoft in this area...
@@mcswaggins4123why tho.
I've never owned XBox but I'm extremely jealous of their dedication to backwards compatibility.
Trust me sony's ps plus is catching up there's a lot of good games plus Playstation exclusive and we got a leak that sony is working on emulators it's just a matter of time until ps plus becomes better then GP
@@mohdamin6641 I wasn't talking about Game Pass. I want a PlayStation 5 that'll play all my PS1-PS4 discs as well.
@@mohdamin6641Haven't had a playstation for a while, do you still have to stream ps plus games?
@mohdamin6641 I have both Xbox and Playstation and it isn't getting better anytime soon. They gave up on bringing over PS2 titles years ago and they're bringing over PS1 games at a snails pace...as for the PSP games...Yikes on bikes.
PC Emulation BOOM
WiiU
PS3 On launch and PS5
Wii on Launch
I think that just shows perfectly, that the newest technology console with the best grafic and performance isn't always necessary. Look at Nintendo. The Switch is known for being a weaker console but has tons of great Console Exclusiv Titles that makes it stand out a lot. Not saying, that Nintendo is perfect but yeah
Pretty much, nintendo every year gives a lot of cool games. Even if Zelda tears of the kingdom is very much like Breath of the wild its still a massive hit, everyone you see is enjoying the game, making a cool building, recording some funny clip, now they are gonna release mario wonder, mario rpg, a new pikmin game just came out... Even if nintendo is very greedy with a lot of the stuff they do the games are nice
@@flandechocolate9675 True. They make great games and the devs are great but the decisions the higher ups make are not great
@@sahaprocks7751 exactly, the problem is definitly not the game developers as you say :)
@@flandechocolate9675 no I meant things like making prices high, cease and desists are the higher ups’ problems.
@@sahaprocks7751 i know, maybe i didnt make myself clear, sorry
I blame Xbox’s management, they lack exclusives, they don’t focus on making organic games themselves, they act like Disney of video game juggernauts! They ruined Rare, Bethesda, and wasting billions of bucks on Activision Blizzard which is a terrible deal that analysts aren’t favoring the buyout, it’s a desperate attempt to control the gaming industry instead of a bold innovation and turnaround strategy for Xbox!
They didn’t ruin Bethesda or Rare. Hifi Rush was great, sure redfall was trash. Rare makes sea of thieves where i see alot of streamers on twitch stream it occasionally. They did fail with studios like Lionhead the original makers of Fable. Also they opened up their first party to PC and brought more things to other platforms which makes the xbox console seem irrelevant which i think is causing the downward spiral for xbox.
@@nizzy33K they ruined Rare in the long run, cancelled Conker II, Banjo Kazooie 3 for Nuts and Bolts, cancelled lot of single player games. Although Sea of Thieves is a step in the right direction, but I want single player adventure games from Rare! Also the game quality is pretty terrible, I don’t want broken games at launch date. Xbox needs to have real exclusives, otherwise their console is redundant! This is why Xbox needs new leadership, they have to put their focus back into exclusives!
@@nizzy33K alright then, compare the Xbox Series generation to the Xbox 360. Which is better?
The problem with backwards compatibility is the internals of the machine and how it operates. The reason Xbox is able to do it so well is because they all use similar tech between all their systems while Sony has not. Emulating PS3 games is going to be a nightmare for anyone because of the Cell processor that the system used. Trying to emulate that on better, more streamlined tech is rough.
And yet, random people do it for free. Don’t think it’s really a good excuse to not make consoles backwards compatible
@@wieldylattice3015and how long has it taken to get it into a usable state that works with a good percentage of the PS3 library? Don't forget that it would have to work on PS4 base hardware if Sony were to pursue it and that console would never be strong enough to run the emulator, no matter how hard they tried it would be better to make it work on PS5 instead and it's been rumoured that they are working on something BTS regarding PS3 emulation on PS5.
@@CreativeWM_Personal To quote one of my favorite memes, "my brother in christ you made the console,"
The PS4 was also a fair bit more powerful than the Xbox One, I understand that Cell is a finicky processor but it hardly excuses Sony being lazy to the point of not even trying. There are also rumors regarding Xbox working with the Xemu and Xenia teams, but I ultimately feel like the real reason Xbox has strong backwards compatibility and Playstation doesn't is due to leadership. Phil Spencer is gamer who just happens to be in the position of businessman, he wants to play the classics just as much as the people who buy his product, but Jim Ryan is a businessman only, and doesn't respect older games that backwards compatibility would cover, seeing it as a net loss, and I feel as though it would take a different CEO to get Playstation to seriously consider more extensive backwards compatibility
I don't think so. Xbox 360 was PowerPC architecture. Emulation has just come a long way. You can emulate PS2 on Xbox Series S, and I've been emulating PS3 on my PC for a couple of years now.
@@wieldylattice3015 the CELL has 8 purpose built number crunchers in the form of the SPUs, that is the most difficult part to emulate because they are unique to the CELL Processor itself. You need something that's SPU like to make PS3 emulation viable on PS5, me thinks that the Tempest 3D audio chip is the key here but Sony might be struggling with the software side of things trying to make all games run perfectly on the emulator.
The only problem with Xbox right now is Phil Spencer not having a more hands-on approach with the game development which he admitted to in the Redfall apology. I believe he'll be doing a lot more oversight on the games being developed for Xbox and the hopefully, he can direct Activision-Blizzard away from the downward spiral that has been on for years.
Microsoft already has its own history of sexual assult in the workplace
he's been apologizing for poor game dev at MS for 4 years now. there is no saving this company.
@@mario_vasquez_ you weirdos has been saying this since xbox started in the gaming space. "no saving" F off.
Phil is a worse manager than Peter Moore and Don Mattrick were on their worst days
the problem is that. he is giving every branch is own autonomy. and letting them work alone but he should be on top of their heads. if not another redfall will happen
The idea of "xbox fans" and "playstation fans" has always baffled me. Both Sony and Microsoft are uncaring, money-fuelled monoliths. We'll buy their products, sure, but why would anyone want to waste their time defending them from criticism?
You're conflating fans with fanboys.
Fans of liking their games?
It's tribalism. People do it with their game consoles, their politics, or anything they choose and become vehemently attached to.
@@dreamsdeep1076 | Being a fan of a console for its games is like being a fan of Apple because you enjoy Angry Birds.
Because PlayStation is awesome and Xbox is shit?
Here's some ideas for videos...
What Ruined Rareware?
What the HELL is Sly Cooper?
What the HELL is the Legend of Spyro trilogy?
The issues going on at Ubisoft?
A video about Banjo-Kazooie, Wario Land, Donkey Kong, etc
I second the Ubisoft one - they covered up RAPES and more or less got away with it.
What the hell is Ratchet and Clank. Edit: it would be interesting since the PS2 era games had a satirical tone, while ps3 onward it started taking itself more seriously.
the Ubisoft one has to be
Videos about Rare and Ubisoft are great ideas! Here's some more:
-Pizza Tower and Wario Land and Indies that replace dead or dormant franchises (there's a demand in the market but AAA studios aren't interested);
-The downfall of Halo;
-The downfall of Sonic the Hedgehog post Dreamcast era.
The answer to the first question is Microsoft.
Dreamcast was the first to make online play, even competitive online first person shooters with VoIP somewhat popular, there was a scene back then with Quake 3 Arena that was big enough to make it easy to find a match of players only. Also PS2 had FFXI mmorpg already roaring by 2003.. However it is true that in 2004 (Halo CE was not online); Xbox Live would explode and cement consoles as online gaming machines. It went from something a small but distinct minority of a console player base was up to, to the MAJORITY of said consoles playerbase was doing. 🔥
*waves in PS2 FFXI player back in the day* It still makes me shake my head that it hopped from PS2, to the 360. I didn't have a good pc at the time, so I ended up buying a 360 to continue playing the game, ha.
@@TardisntimbitsYou could play Final Fantasy XI on PS2 until 2016...
@@Chelaxim Not after having two PS2s break down and three hard drives I couldn't lol. It was more economical at that point to switch to 360, I just had to think about it when your comment came up. To be fair, they probably would have lasted longer had I not sat outside Jeuno bazaaring all of the time. I don't know why I didn't think about it when I wrote the original comment though. Apologies.
@@Tardisntimbitsps2 Was a masterpiece
Remember when Microsoft offered to buy Nintendo and they got laughed out of the room? Lol
They know they can't make games,so they're trying to buy every studio.
@@Captain_Neckbeard exactly, they are trying to be like Disney lol
Phil Spencer is one of the most glaring examples of 'You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.'
The biggest issue with Xbox is just how corporate its prevailing mindset is at the top. Rather than fostering a position in the industry, they just throw money at existing studios and use them to pillar themselves up. Sony is just as much a giant conglomorate, but there are countless historic games that would never have existed without Playstation taking an active role with them. Conversely, it's hard to think of any games that were organically homegrown by Microsoft rather than simply bought from someone else. Even the first Halo was deep in the pipeline before Microsoft stepped in.
Unless they bring Rare Replay to PC, I actually might consider getting an Xbox Series X for it.
Also I would love to see them bring back Banjo Kazooie but have both the gameplay of 1 and Tooie alongside the vehicle building of Nuts and Bolts.
Seriously, if Nuts and Bolts had the classic platforming alongside the new gameplay style, I think people would’ve taken to it more.
Like, one could have the vehicle building be a way to access new areas along with being used in some boss fights.
"Cars? CARS?!? CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS?!?"
They could had an action game like Scalebound, but development issue led to it getting cancelled. At least some of its ideas appeared in Bayonetta 3 for better and for worse.
I wait for the day they announce viva piñata 3
They could add more stuff like more piñatas, fruit veg flowers, decorations, and other stuff
My idea for more piñatas is a coastal 2nd garden that can let you dig deeper water for aquatic piñatas
@@kanewilliams594 RIP Viva Pinata.
Since Rare Replay is mostly using the 360 versions of the games though backwards compatibility it is unlikely it will get a pc port
When the generation started I was pretty optimistic, I actually considered getting an xbox series x because of the great backwards compatibility, gamepass, the platform, emulators etc. However, I actually still buy platforms due to the games they have as exclusives and I wanted to play FFXVI, Spiderman 2 and FF7remake, also due to the lack of actual exclusives for me in xbox it seems this isn't the generation they win me over. They have almost everything to succeed.
I was considering getting it, as it looked pretty good, but as I can get the games for my Switch, PS4, and PC anyway it doesn't really feel worth it for me personally..!
It’s still blows my mind that there were no exclusives at launch for the Xbox series x and s. How can you release a console without any games? Ps5 had demon souls as a next gen exclusives and spider man miles morales as both current and next gen. It may not be enough to be convincing but still better than none. Xbox needs a whole new management team, the current are just lazy at their job and being paid for just sitting around. Sony would’ve actually fired the incompetent on the spot if it damage their brand reputation.
For me personally, Microsoft’s fumbles with the Xbox One couldn’t have come at a worse time. I missed my chance to get in on the 360 when it was hot and new, and wanted to jump into the Xbox bandwagon starting with the Xbox one generation.
Then, when they finally announced the machine in 2013, I witnessed the corporate massacre that occurred during May and E3 of that year. I've tried giving them a chance to pull out of the rut by buying some of their stuff, but they're still very far off from the glory days of the 360. It's too bad, really.
The 360 was a fluke. If Sony hadn't priced their console so horribly in the beginning, they probably would've lost again.
@@avidfather1864 true, but it was a fluke that made everyone flock over to the 360, giving it better support overall and making it a better platform. Sony messed up on more than just price with the PS3. It had other problems too. Can’t really blame Microsoft for capitalizing on that..
I don't care if Jim Ryan doesn't play games he does good job as CEO giving us games
I walked away from Xbox after they tried pulling that always online thing. Granted, they don’t seem to have tried anything on that level, but I also don’t have much reason to go back.
I went to Nintendo after the Switch came out because of that.
In 22 years, kids like me who played Halo in high school (2002-2005) are now 37 years old. Time doesn't stop just because something is great at the time!!
*_Not every gaming corporation is perfect_*
EDIT: Well now after seeing Microsoft's decision to close 4 studios, including the beloved developer of Hi-Fi Rush, I sure hope someone's gonna pick up that phone, CAUSE I FCUKING CALLED IT 😎
Ironic how this video is titled "What's Ruining Xbox", and I get an Xbox ad.
One thing that i noticed with xbox is nowadays is i never see them release any big games anymore mostly just studio purchases. Like the last game that was really big was Halo Infinite but it kinda flopped and now they have starfield but we'll have to see how that turns out. But it feels like with Sony theres always a new big game release in the spotlight to keep me invested in Playstation while the only reason i want an Xbox is just backwards compatibility. Having all those major stufios is pointless if you arent doing anything with them
Most big games I hear about these days are relased on either the switch, or pc.
And releasing exclusive console games on pc just makes them not exclusive.
The main thing that still gets me buying games on playstation instead of PC is mostly the dualsense. Some games that are released on both xbox and ps5 are the same but that dualsense will have some effort put into it and makes it feels like an entire brand new game. There's just something about it that feels like I can only get it ON playstation and no other platform.
*bro who tf forgot to tell you about FORZA HORIZON 5*
@@wieldylattice3015 ....that game came out 2 years ago. Along with Halo. It's a pretty good game I admit but that's been it for xbox. There's still nothing else besides Forza, Halo, and Gears. Although I guess we can drop gears since we don't know if theirs going to be a next one.
@@NrettG I'll never understand the hype over that controller.
sega has started playing their cards, and to see microsoft, the company that replaced them slowly lose their cards by way of inaction is kinda hillarious
You cannot buy talent or hits disney are learning this the hard way too
Its simple. Make good games, don't insult gamer's intelligence (money, scams, and or otherwise), and let gamers be gamers (with the good, bad, and all).
Excellent video, I was legitimately curious about what’s going wrong. I was an Xbox and Halo fan since high school, nowadays I play on all four platforms depending on exclusives, and it’s sad to see Halo become obsolete these days. I just played God of War Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West, and Tears of the Kingdom, and I just wonder why modern Halo can’t be just as great as those.
I played alot of Halo multi-player during high school (2002-2005)
Microsoft doesn’t see games as art, they see it as an office project. They don’t about quality anymore, Matt booty (the man in charge of all xbox exclusives) stated that they will no long make good/great games and if they do it’ll be very rare for them to do them any time soon after.
@@postupislilrodneysson9986a rare moment of honesty from Microsoft
Halo got their equivalent of Kathleen Kennedy to ruin it for 10 years and all we got is mediocre stories, buggy launches, and once free armor being thrown behind a paywall.
Halo has such a great sci fi premise it blows my mind it hasn't turned into a serious film franchise like Alien. From the forerunner history and even architecture, to the alien religion, the science of the ring worlds, man there's so much potential for captivating audiences with narratives, but all they want to do is nickel and dime people.
Xbox has bad management, and at this rate, they'll be dropping the consoles entirely, which is what they're moving towards. They also just throw money at the problem to see what sticks. So far, gamepass is the only worthwhile thing, but that isn't making enough money to sustain the Xbox division.
They probably don't care much about consoles lmao. I'd be surprised if they make any after the series X/S
Microsoft company obviously should just stay with gaming pc and laptops
Game Pass is 100% running at a loss for years now. I got 3 years for £40 a year ago and 3 years before that for £60.
@cattysplat it's only totally worthless for people like me who buy physical games. And it's another subscription as well
I feel like that one E3 presentation single-handedly solidified Nintendo's position as the number 2 game company, which is weird to say, considering how solid Nintendo has always been. But XBox (and ultimately Microsoft), has been lacking in games that set it apart. And their acquisitions aren't really helping since they have to appease other companies (mostly Sony). But if they can develop Halo back to where it was under Bungie, a couple of dormant franchises, and possibly two new franchises, they could be more competitive. And that should be the easy part. Microsoft is at its heart a software company, so why not do that? It's a weird position that they're in, and it will be fascinating how they utilize all their moves moving forward
controversial, but xbox and sony are better than nintendo. we all know the only reason people would buy a nintendo switch is because of the exclusives. if it was for handheld, then a steam deck is a much better option. the standard steam deck COMES with a case, 2x the storage of the nintendo switch, and has a much bigger library of games. if you get the 2nd type, you get eight times the storage which is an ssd, faster storage, and an entire bundle for your profile. the 3rd version is just a BEAST with 16x the storage, and anti-glare etched case. keep in mind the steam deck alone is 10x better (in hardware) than the nintendo switch.
@@TailsHub7Well yeah, Nintendo makes games that are fun to play, and the characters are iconic. They make themselves the family-oriented gaming option, making games that attempt to be fun for all ages, and their hardware is the cheapest. Plus, the gimmick of the Switch having an easy transition from docked console to mobile was a home-run, and I'd be surprised if they didn't keep that going somehow in their next generation.
But seriously, their broad audience and cost level of entry are what do it. Think about it: how would you react to your five year old handling your 3rd Version Steam Deck with Cheeto-dust hands? 😢
I feel that the sheer amount of time that they spent on the Activision deal wasn’t factored in when they bought the company. Last year’s E3 felt like Activision games had a spot, but since the deal wasn’t even close to go through, they had to improvise. This year’s E3 felt the same. I feel like when the deal go through, things might start to pick up steam with them.
@@TailsHub7 I don't think that's a controversial take. As a Nintendo fan, I know that Nintendo isn't known for having the most powerful hardware. In fact, the last time we had something close to either the PS or the XBox was maybe the Gamecube. That's why the argument around Nintendo in the FTC case was so fascinating. Nintendo is usually off doing their own thing while Sony and Microsoft are duking it out trying to one up each other.
MS is a software company yes but games are more art than software alot of the time. Steve Jobs did an interview in the 90s talking about his issues with MS and it's worth a watch. He basically said they lack style and innovation. I think that still holds true and it's hampering their success in what's primarily an artistic medium.
The Xbox 360 is the only Xbox I've ever owned (I might have gotten the original but Kameo alone wasn't enough to sell me on it and that was the only exclusive that caught my eye back then as Red vs Blue wasn't a thing yet (and I hadn't watched it until a few years after it debuted) so Halo wasn't even on my radar) and the only one I will own at the rate things are going. I can just get Gamepass Ultimate on my PC, why would I buy an Xbox?
Kameo is underrated.
Kameo also works on the 360.
The 360 is my only xbox too and I have the game
You don’t have to buy one. That’s their whole business plan. To make games more available for the public. Getting rid of the need to own a console. So smart it seems dumb. But if you are able to make money off of a subscription service despite not having the console.
You don't HAVE to, it's pro consumer
I also bought 360 long after it was relevant just because it's currently one of the best ways to play Rock Band with customs. Oh, and Fable II.
Xbox in a way became Disney basically. They are buying studios because Game Pass is their platform now(at least how I'm seeing it). Hi-Fi Rush is a game that made me turn on my Series X for the first time in a couple of months. As enjoyable as the game was There was no reason for me to go back after I finished it Microsoft needs to understand that the trend of "Games as a Service" is a Supplement to gaming and not the core to gaming for any platform.
where do you mostly play? playstation? if yes, what do you play on it?
@pmpmpmpmpmpmpm playstation mostly because I grew up with it. Nintendo second because my friends suggested games for me to play since the n64. Xbox is third because there been has been games only on Xbox that I've really want to play, but recently, there hasn't been any real reason to go back except for backward compatible games that I've been discovering on Xbox that are interesting to me.
@@232xMicrosoft don't care about their Xbox. They're like, a Woke broke Disney They just care more about their gaming laptop and gaming pc
Also a reason for their downfall is what even makes them stand out nowadays. PlayStation has the exclusives and is great for a pure hardcore gaming experience. Also more mature games but doesn’t mean that there can’t be more general games. Nintendo is more wacky. Setting trends rather than following. They also have great exclusives too. They’re hardcore Nintendo fans too but their consoles are targeted for everyone of all ages. They still do some mature games but it’s mostly for everyone. What does Xbox have differently compared to the rest that I can’t find anywhere else?
Playstation has no games tho
I think it was the the Xbox One's reveal event that I started seeing the signs of executive meddling.
To go on, and on, and on about for 30 minutes about how it's the "all-in-one home entertainment system", while everyone's there to see a video game console is just bizarre. Combine that with a lack of understanding the community's concerns with DRM, it all felt out of touch.
Then Xbox One X came out, and there was confusion of whether it was a separate model, or an entire new console. Xbox Series X confused matters even more.
For complete brand confusion, we had: Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One S Digital Only, Xbox Series X, and Xbox Series S.
Add the fact that most games on Xbox One were also playable for PC (only 12 console exclusives, and mostly due to Kinect interactivity) and Steam had basically peaked by then means that there were easier options.
@@CodeNameX001It's actually 17 exclusives on Xbox One. That's still lackluster compared to the Original Xbox & Xbox 360 though.
Corporatism that cares more about what's in it for the corporate guys up on top rather than the consumers who made them successful in the first place is what one of the biggest problems is
Let's not forget the Xbox Series still use pretty bad DRM. Though it's not as bad as on One originally.
I know it won't fix everything, but to create that identity, I feel like the IPs they made in the early xbox days should start coming back, Blinx, Voodoo Vince, and others. Yes they're not the best, but leveraging Rare and now their new studios, bring them in, get them to write a good story and develop a good game. Forget chasing trends because of the things getting the biggest profits (*cough cough games as a services cough cough*). As they said back in the day, git gud.
Yeah, and maybe Project Gotham, or even be bold and try either Quantum Redshift or N.Gen
18:38 Well the original Fable trilogy was made by Peter Molyneux and Lionhead (the first game was made by another studio of ex-Bullfrog employees, Big Blue Box Studios but they got merged into Lionhead and Peter Molyneux was involved and promoting the game regardless as they kept ties with Lionhead)
Great studio.
Black and white was one of my favourites.
My godly hand was always black, gnarled and releasing black smoke.
My poor creature was always black and blue from the severe beatings.
@@christinaedwards5084 Shame though that much like Yuiji Naka, Keji Inafune and Hideo Kojima, Molyneux fell off after going indie with 22cans. Though it's safe to say that Molyneux fell the hardest of the bunch.
At least Balan Wonderworld finished product... Even if it doesn't feel like one... From what I heard Mighty No 6 is actually just mid too, got overshadowed by the Kickstarter controversy (which is also likely why Red Ash will never be a thing rather than just straight up lies. I mean Fuze apparently decided to fund it after the Red Ash Kickstarter failed but there's been no news since then and that would be on Fuze rather than Inafune anyway).
And while Kojima apparently has a bunch of uncritical stans, Death Stranding sounds like a pretty turd but again, at least it's a finished (and fully polished in an graphical sense) game. Also "Stramding Game" will _never_ be a genera, no matter how much Kojima wants it to be.
Saberspark 3D model jumpscare 0:07
This aged like fine wine.
Phil Spencer's hatred towards exclusive games is what's killing this brand the most. I have absolutely no interest in the Xbox Series if they're all on other platforms. Like even the Atari VCS has some exclusive games.
God, i remember the ps4 how to share video. That was easily one of the funniest things i had even seen
And yet, somehow, owning Bethesda and (probably some day) ABK is somehow going to save MS gaming division, because all three of those companies have such an amazing track record lately.
Thank God, that Sasquatch from Ruckersville, Virginia ain't gonna rant on the "HexBox".
They need to remove the xbox enforcement team and unban gamers that was affected. Nobody wants to get banned for playing games (too much) and racking up achievements. Then get accused of cheating and banned indefinitely, at least that happened to me. It's like a slap in the face telling me to go touch grass.
At least Xbox got hi-fi rush. Who doesn’t like a robot cat doing the twin peaks dance.
Cat
Microsoft have no one to blame but themselves. They had the X360 generation of the 2000s in the palm of their hand. But threw it all away to chase corporate domination dreams. All this goodwill with gamepass, backwards compatibility and PC compatibility doesn't mean anything, when your competitors have all the exclusive games which keeps them more popular. Halo being neglected in the hands of a caretaker studio was the worse thing for the brand. People used to buy an Xbox just for Halo. Now nobody cares. Activision games have lower sales and Blizzard's fall from grace. It's looking like Playstation and Nintendo will continue to leave Xbox in third place.
Maybe Xbox would do well if they actually cared about their games. The biggest blight for me was when they bought rare and then nuts and bolts released and literally murdered a franchise right there and then.
No Grounded? No Psychonauts 2?
I still feel that Xbox's approach to keeping their games as multiplatform with PC and Cloud as they can works in their favor from a consumer standpoint. I love being able to swap between my PC and Xbox when playing something and be able to pick up from the same save. I love having the option to try an indie title through the Cloud to see if I want to download it and invest more time with it. And Xbox has such a strong lineup of devs that they could start releasing some amazing titles, if they can just keep them focused on making what they're good at. It can still go either way with them, but I think that buying Activision will go a long way to keep Game Pass affordable, keep more AAA games coming to that platform and helping to ensure that I'll keep that subscription for years to come.
But why should you buy an Xbox if you can play the same games on PC? People buy a PlayStation and Switch for the exclusives.
@@cattysplatit seems like Microsoft is killing the Xbox? I see a future where Microsoft goes full PC, cloud and gamepass. I think they are not going to focus on console sales but game sales
Damn good and thought provoking video. As someone that works in a used game store, it's enlightening watching this and comparing notes from the things we get traded in and that actually still sell in store. PS2 era games and systems as well as Xbox 360 games sell like gangbusters, while Xbox one's get traded in way more often than PS4s, while 360 game actually outsell anything current gen that we get in (but not nearly as much as anything PS2 related). think all the companies need to go back and see what made PS2 and 360 such massive successes and draw from that instead of acquiring massive studios, destroying the IPs that come with them, and crapping on gamers on a whole with their shoddy 'AAA' experiences on a whole. If Baldur's Gate III has proven anything, people LIKE not having battle passes, micro transactions, etc, in lieu of paying ONE price for a COMPLETE game that's actually enjoyable! BGIII proved it's possible, just not possible for most AAA companies that put profit over enjoyment. This is an ENTERTAINMENT industry first and foremost, and the bigger companies have forgotten just what that means on a whole. Until they kick their mentality of corporate greed over true art and entertainment, I'll happily be playing mostly indie titles and BGIII 😁.
Indie games without extra transactions are also so much bigger these days. They offer complete game for cheap price. Game Pass is also full of indie games so I guess that's something they are doing right.
Microsoft thought they could buy their way through the industry but they didn't realize that, that's not how the video game industry works
What I hate most is Microsoft buying up all these major studios for exclusive games then they make them push out one game. Then….. that’s it. Also that game pushed out is under pressure likely by higher ups to make terrible changes and decisions that fans end up strongly disliking. I fully expect the next Fallout/Elder Scrolls to be the last ones and end up shutting the studio down. Or never given the money to make another.
Every N64 fanboy hates Microsoft for how they buttfucked Rare into obscurity. They pretty much are gonna do it with every other studio they buy.
Exactly. Crash/spyro fans are rejoicing that the deal has gone through with buying Activision but Microsoft didn't buy them for those IPs. They got Activision for call of duty. The future of those IPs, especially Spyro (who only exists as an accessory to crash now) is still just as bleak.
Also never forget they can just flat out cancel promising projects like scalebound and I'll forever be salty about that.
Seeing how f76 has already been i don't think it need that much pression to ruin the next one
What are you talking about? none of those studios have released anything that they weren't already working on before the acquisitions, Hi-Fi Rush, Redfall, Starfield, Grounded etc. all of them were in production before Microsoft got them, in fact we have reports stating the contrary, on how Xbox allowed things like Psychonauts 2 reach its full potential or for Pentiment to even exist, Redfall was doomed from the beginning and the only reports of Xbox intervention are about delaying Starfield which is a good thing
So I will ask you again: what exactly are you talking about? because your claims doesn't align with the things that have been reported
I think part of the problem is that Xbox officially announced that their dev cycles for new games will be 4 to 6 years to account for changes in how games are made, and minimize crunch. It may just be most of these games are still in development. Heck, Forza Motorsport 8 was in development for like 6 years
I met Phil Spencer at a Halo event for military veterans. Really nice person and the studio seems to be doing well. Halo Infinite is a fun game. I wonder though if what is also hurting Xbox is most of their games you can also play on a PC? Why would I play Halo Infinite on Xbox if I can play it on my gaming PC? I agree with you on why they don't have more exclusives? I have an Xbox series s downstairs but I'm gaming on my PC instead.
Why play God of War on a PlayStation when you can play it on a gaming PC? Because consoles are often cheaper than high end gaming PCs, and you’re less likely to buy a really bad power supply while at micro center. It’s not for everyone, clearly isn’t for you, but that’s why consoles are important for games that do in fact have a pc version, because there’s someone out there that it is for
@@wieldylattice3015 Playstation games are atleast 1 year exclusive to the console before coming to PC. The PC releases are also full priced and buggy ports whilst the console versions will be discounted a year later. Xbox releases are same date on PC and Xbox for the most part and Game Pass lets you use both.
@@cattysplatSo, basically Microsoft is making better ports, making games available to PC. You are saying that PS5 doesn't support you well as a PC player. Yet you are still willing to buy a PS5. That is interesting
You know I've been an Xbox guy for the last few years but this year just traded it in to get a Playstation. I love Xbox but to me personally I just found I was much more interested in what was on the PS5. This was a great video. Although I'm on the other side now, I'm rooting for Xbox and hoping their comeback is a strong one
You are the opposite of me honestly but that’s probably because I have a gaming pc
To be fair as an someone who is still absolutely an Xbox dude, Gran Turismo 7 and Detroit Become Human are bangers, even if GT7 has major issues at times
what was on the playstation though? TLOU? Spiderman? Same crap tbh. Unless on Xbox, there's a variety of games that you can play and GamePass.
@@pmpmpmpmpmpmpm Actually the original TLOU wasn't samey and supposedly Spider Man is pretty good. Yes, there are absolutely originality issues with PS exclusives, but lets not antagonize someone who's leaving the ecosystem peacefully and respectfully. Even though we are both obviously Xbox people, there are still great playstation games to be enjoyed
@@wieldylattice3015 facts my guy. Totally facts.
-Indie games
-Rogue develepors ruining franchises
-The push for inclusivity and diversity instead of a good game
-Neglecting the majority of your fans
-Xbox Series S
-Lack of original games
-Buying up studios and dropping a huge hot pile of sh on them
-Some other stuff
"you dont buy an xbox for its games, you buy an xbox because your friends have one"
Think you may wanna make a follow up to this now
Because my god, has this situation gotten *a lot* worse × ×
It was telling from the get-go when Microsoft in the early 2000's had meetings with japanese devs and were ignored my many of them because they (Microsoft) didn't knew what make Xbox special. Japanese devs knew what Sony's, Nintendo's and Sega's vision for their games were, Microsoft never had a vision, they didn't knew what made Halo so important.
This goes beyond exclusives. Nintendo makes games that are juat fun to play, prioritizing gameplay over story. Sony games games that push the limits of what videogames should be and focus more on story. Sega tried to bring to life all sort of crazy and wacky game concepts, and they had a good grasp on what makes a good arcade game. Xbox had... multiplayer?
Microsoft should just stop making consoles they should stay with pc only
The description basically says it all right there. They have everything at their disposal, choose not to use any of them, yet get shocked and cry that it's "unfair" when the competition uses what THEY have. Right, yes, it's so "unfair" for Sony to have third-party marketing deals. The exact same marketing deals that Microsoft also made, many of which with the exact same companies, during the years of the 360. They're MICROSOFT. They could outspend any deal that Sony or Nintendo has ever or would ever want to make and still be in the black thanks to Windows keeping them afloat, so miss me with those "Please let us compete" crocodile tears about buying ActBliz.
All this could be turned around by using what they already have and making great games, just like both Nintendo and Sony have pulled themselves out of similar holes. But instead Microsoft is doing literally everything BUT make great games, if any at all. And if Spencer's and Greenberg's recent statements are any indication, they have no intention of changing that in order to put all their eggs into the Game Pass and Cloud basket, quality be damned. I used to respect Spencer, when he took over it looked like he was really trying to right the ship for a while. Now he seems almost no different from Sony's Jim Ryan, overpromising, underdelivering, and disrespecting longtime customers.
Short answer: They wanted to do everything but make new games.
Only reason I went with Xbox Series X is because Sony started acting greedy. Microsoft has just been stupid.
2 things to add on to possible mistakes.
1. They made their exclusives guaranteed to be on PC so people like me literally has no reason to buy an Xbox console. They at least get more sales on the games in exchange for consoles but then the exclusives don't interest me which is a bigger issue as pointed out by Saberspark.
2. I feel the series S might've been more harm at the beginning of launch because at least where I lived during the PS5/XSX high demand and lack of supplies, I would see XSS just sitting on shelves fully stocked using transistors that could've been used to feed the XSX demand instead.
The biggest reason is the third reason:
Xbox brand is a service brand and making gaming to be a all digital cloud streaming service that will have its long term consequences to the rest of the gaming industry
Series S has also been harmful for devolpers as well. Baldur's Gate 3 was planning to come to Xbox but now they have to delay the release because they can't get it working on the S. Microsoft also mandates that any game releasing on the X have no feature loss or content removal when being put on the S, it has to be as close as possible to the X just with downgraded graphics.
Baldur's Gate 3 hasn't cancelled the version yet but they said they'll have an answer by the end of the year so by microsoft's own polices, they keep giving playstation more games. They did the same thing with indies where it had to release on xbox first or same day to be on the store. So a bunch of indies just straight up skipped the xbox to focus on playstation. Took them a while to remove it leading to undertale finally getting a release on the platform. (Which is why the playstation release was such a big deal at E3)
@@NrettGwait, why was it such an issue for those indie devs to release it the same day as PlayStation and Nintendo versions? Microsoft was actually right in that, you should release all the versions at the same time. Unless I'm misreading or not understanding?
@@NathanSF-qr2ds So imagine this. Your an indie dev. You have a budget, you took a long time to make the game, and now you have to spread it out to other platforms. You gotta make a first impression and you want to do Playstation AND Xbox (at the time, the switch didn't come out yet so the Wii U was NOT the choice). Well turns out you ran out of budget, the PC version is ready to go but you have to make a choice. You can promise one version with the other coming at a later date.
Well turns out Xbox is forcing you to release there first or never at all. Instead of putting in the work on an xbox version that may not even succeed, why not go towards the platform with the biggest install base instead? So a lot of devolpers in this position straight up didn't bother an xbox version because it saved them money and ps4 had the bigger install base to launch towards anyway. You also had small variables like the PS4 being more powerful than the One but that policy is what drove away ALOT of indie devs. Especially after the 360 Arcade Market where a lot of them started from.
@@NrettG okay I get it now
there are some titles that had me knowing of the Xbox 360's existence (before i learned about some other games that existed through my Steam library)
Fable
(some wrestling or sports titles when some people brought their console to school but couldn't have anything too violent)
a Sonic racing game
some Goldeneye game
Diablo 3 (first exposer to that series existence)
"Some dumb corpos", basically the tl;dw
It probably doesn't help 'em that every time they (or Sony) acquire a good studio, they let that studio just rot until its best talent leaves to start their own independant studio. The new Banjo Kazooie is called "Yooka Laylee", made by ex-Rare developers that wanted to make the thing and were sick of waiting for Microsoft's corpos to give them the legal O.K. The great new "Peak Fiction" Final Fantasy type of RPG series is called "Xenoblade", made by ex-Square, ex-Enix, and ex-SquareEnix members that didn't want to be stuck pumping out soulless Final Fantasy sequels slapped together in Unreal Engine, that might-or-might-not be musicals depending on how Tetsuya Nomura is feeling.
As an actual consumer who enjoys console gaming, I could care less if Jim Ryan plays video games. From where I’m sitting, He’s doing his job by ensuring that the game being developed have a level of quality- giving people a reason to buy a PlayStation 5. While I can’t speak for everyone, I’d much rather be looking PlayStation for its awesome consoles and blockbuster games rather than cheerleading charismatic executives who deliver an inferior gaming console.
I dunno
As someone who never played any Xbox, looking at it from afar, it looks like it always looked. It's true that Playstation and Nintendo carved out their own identity for their games. But I never ever felt like Xbox had a game identity. It was a place where all the popular games could be played in comfort and high quality. And I would say it still is that, it never lost that part. Quite the opposite, with aquiring all these studios and the prospect of having major titles be exclusive in the future, I feel for the first time like Xbox has the potential to gain that game identiy that Playstation and Nintendo always had.
More realistically it will feel like Steam vs Epic. Overall the same experience but one store occasionally has arbitrary exclusives.
You are underselling OG Xbox hype a lot. Releases of Halo 2, 3 and even 4 before it was received badly were considered Avengers movie level of events, Gears of War had memorable trailers reminiscent of cult cinema fests, Mass Effect on its day was huge... but now it is like a gaming brand that exists. Not good, not horrible, it just exists. And it shows when after every Xbox big presentation since I think 2017 every streamer says "yeah, it was great I guess". Not "oh wow, what a terrible show" or "holy shit, this was so hype can't wait for etc. etc." Modern gamers don't have any clues how this brand is anymore to have actual expectations for it.
One way Xbox can improve itself would be more support of indie titles. Similar to how Cuphead was handled, where it was exclusive first and then eventually ported to other consoles.
Another suggestion would be to partner up with Steam, so they would have a console to port games on like TF2.
They already focus on Indie games to much and TF2 is already on Xbox through backwards compatibility. Like genuine question do you even own an Xbox? This comment sounds like someone who doesn't.
@@enriquealvarez8636 The Xbox version hasn't being updated in years. And yes i do own one, the reason i go it was because Cuphead and Banjo were exclusive to it. Also what do you mean too much focus on indie games? Isn't that a good thing?
When the bean counters run the business, the "product" becomes secondary, it becomes about nickel and diming their customers, everybody loses their passion because they're hyperfocused on quarterly profits and not their core business.
Gabe Newell hates Microsoft and Xbox lol
Pleasant surprise to see this channel still kickin
I think what really started the downfall of Xbox was when they started to believe that the game titled "Whacked!" never existed. Seriously, the Original Xbox has, what I believe, the most diverse lineup of games of any Xbox generation, and yet, they have done little to nothing with them.
It would be cool if we got another Project Gotham Racing, or another Bloodwake, Brute Force, or heck, another Blinx (if Microsoft still had the trademark, that is), and I bet more people would have been interested in these revivals if the original games were part of the backwards compatibility list.
They're doing the same mistake Disney did by acquiring studios and their IPS instead of them creating new ones and such.
the reason i feel Microsoft is the Disney of gaming/technology
Hell they do the same activism s*** that Disney do
To be fair, both companies tried to do their own thing and had to know when they were out of original ideas.
I mean it does seem that all the buyouts are starting to pay off. Yes, a lot of the recent games released on Xbox have been poor, but High-fi Rush was pretty good and there was a lot of bangers anounced in the recent showcase
I agree it’s a shame the state Xbox is currently in. They have so many classic IPs not being developed.
Excellent video. One thing that has to be mentioned, though, is that gaming in general is in decline, not just the Xbox. Even Sony, with all its exclusives, has been digging deeper and deeper into the ESG rabbit hole is not being able to reproduce the quality it used to have. There's a reason why people are still playing GTA V in 2023.
The prospect of a woke GTA 6 will surely be the tombstone for gaming as a whole.
Simple answer as someone who came back after they fixed the Xbox One and bought the One S the answer is.......
Xbox One E3 Reveal
That didn't and will never work
@@rickyvaldez7370 Why did you think I waited till one s
Doesn't fit considering the video's title is present tense and their issues are from the past and fixed.
But Saber didn't really give a fair analysis of the present regardless.
How has Microsoft failed so poorly to foster several great exclusive franchises over these past 2 decades? I mean as you explained, they have plenty of great IP to their name already that in the past had some genuine bangers. Yet, they've almost all stayed dormant for at least a decade each. Seems like Minecraft is the one IP they haven't failed in some way yet. But at the same time, I can't help but imagine what the likes of Nintendo would be doing with an IP like Minecraft, I think we'd see a lot more side games and offerings for the series than what Microsoft has given (not that they don't still do these things with the IP, I just think Nintendo would be showing it even more love).
Nope, Nintendo would shut down all of the mods and future mods for Minecraft and it would be a Nintendo exclusive, no longer on PC. Believe me, you would NOT want Nintendo to acquire Minecraft
@@NathanSF-qr2ds lol as someone who genuinely thinks Minecraft is lame as all hell, I honestly couldn't care less about who owns the property or what they do with it. I do stand by my thought that there would be more Minecraft side games if Nintendo did own the IP though. Yeah it would be Nintendo exclusive and mods would be shut down... guess how much that matters to my main point? Not at all lol.
The thing is that MS has been buying up good developers and mishandling them since the OG Xbox days. Rare was theirs to use, and they didn't do squat with them. Only fart out a crappy Perfect Dark sequel that no one liked and then have them design the Kinect Avatars. Sea of Thieves was mid at best. Not to mention that they bleed talent like crazy with losing Bungie and Lionhead. They briefly had a partnership with Silicon Knights, the makers of Eternal Darkness, and used them only to create Too Human, which no one liked or even remembers today. Bioware Cliff Blizinski used to be the face of Epic Games when they made Gears 1 and 2. Now he's gone, and Xbox's close ties with Epic are gone too. Imagine if Fortnite had dropped as an Xbox exclusive. Fortnite broadly might not have been as popular, but it could've been a new Halo for them and could EASILY have saved the Xbox One.
They just don't know how to manage talent. And they never have. This isn't a Phil Spencer vs Don Mattrick debate. They NEVER knew how to handle devs. They need to learn how to treat developers as well as they treat their customers. Even if the Activision merger goes through and MS doesn't owe anyone else any cross platform titles, they will simply run Cod, Warcraft, Tony Hawk and the rest into the ground or just sit on the IP and never use them.
I think the problem recently with Xbox is that it has always been seen as the Burger King of Video Games. It's a solid console, but it has never seen as innovative like Nintendo or pushing graphics to the limit like PlayStation. Xbox is just kinda there.
I read that title as “What’s a Running Xbox?” And paired with that thumbnail it was hilarious as shit
Series consoles 13 percent down, Halo infinite, Redfall, lack of AAA quality exclusives, 2022 empty year, phill: great games don't matter and more.
I believe the current identity of Xbox is accessability. Think about it, the Series S is cheap and was one lf the only things you could find during the pandemic. Xbox is pushing cloud gaming services and wants to partner with smart TV makers to have an xbox streaming app where all you need is a controller, or at least considered it at one point. Xbox has had their adaptive controller for years now. Even the backwards compatibility feeds into that. No part of your library is lost, even old CoD servers are up again. I can transfer a game from my TV to my phone and continue playing where I left off in a different room, or when my kid or wife wants the TV either by streaming directly from the box itself or by cloud. Xbox also backed Bethesda's desire to bring a mod menu to consoles before Bethesda's acquisition, making modding and having a tailor made experience more accessible.
I agree right now that what Microsoft needs is games, they lost a lot of brand identity with the Xbox One and the leaderships choices there, but now with Phil in charge its clear to me that he simply does not want to build Xbox's old identity of being the "social compettitive" brand, it simply will not work today because everyone is at that baseline now. He wants to take the broken pieces of Xbox and build a new brand around the idea of it being the "everyman" ecosystem. A brand that is present in all forms of gaming, Mobile, PC and console. Heck if you count the licenced Bethesda table tops, they are there as well. Thats why the acquisitions seem all over the place, because they are intentionally so. Getting more games, more variety of games and getting them to more people, through Xbox services of course. Starfield I think is going to be a glimpse at what to expect from the future of Xbox games, while it was well into development by the time of the acquisition the delay was clearly an Xbox move, and not necessarily a BGS one. I think Phil knows this game is not only BGS chance to fix their reputation but also Xbox's chance to build its new identity. Im willing to bet Starfield has significantly more day one players than any other BGS title and it will be thanks to Gamepass. Even playstation players are getting PCs and Xbox Series X/S consoles just to play it.
For me, the downhill trend started with the xbox 1. It was so underwhelming I didn't bother to get one until 2018 when they stopped updating 360 games there was no more games made for the last gen console.
Once I read Xbox one was using 50gb disc and most AAA games would release incomplete I got a PS4... If I pay $60/$70 for a game I want to physically own it ..
I recommend the Xbox for people who do not want or cannot afford a gaming PC. Its a solid platform these days.
I recommend Steam Deck at a similar price point
@b-rexmedia I might if I'd ever used one. Don't know anyone who owns one personally.
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That's a gaming PC though, you kinda ignored the original comment, the Deck is fantastic but is not at all the option for people tight on cash or bad with technical difficulty.
@@_-Lx-_ modern consoles are basically gaming PCs. A true gaming console does not ever require an Internet connection. A true console never needs firmware upgrades. A true console does not need to install games on a hard drive. You can buy a game for a true console and it's playable without any updates or downloads. The Xbox is running Windows, the PS5 is running Linux, Steam Deck is running Linux. 🌈
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You're ignoring my point, the're two reasons why anyone would choose a console over a PC in the modern way.
1st: Ease of use/convieniance
2nd: Exclusives
The 1st meaning that full PCs are so much more complicated and take a lot more effort to maintain compared to consoles, you can fully brick your PC by downloading viruses and deleting certian files, and often have to update drivers and manage your files yourself.
I adore the freedom, customization, and unique potential that PCs offer, but not everyone is tech savy enough to use them, same way that Linux has a large number of benifits but many people still choose Windowd over it due to comand prompts and dependacies being extremely confusing.
Consoles are much more uniform, convienant and reliable, PCs have far higher potential and scope but some people aren't equiped to manage them, the Steam Deck is fantastic but I have had many technical difficulties with it, and that is why someone might choose a home/handheld console over one.
Each company seems to have a completely different business model for making/selling games.
Sony = Fine dining experience
Microsoft = All you can eat buffet
Nintendo = Heroin dealer
What ruins Xbox for me is surprisingly not really related to the games. It's the fact that they've abandoned me. You see there are 2 types of gamers in this world, those that like to collect/own their copies and those that don't. The consoles should function just as well offline as they do online when it comes to single player games. Unfortunately if you're offline on a modern xbox you can't add a user account, you can't earn achievements and the backwards compatibility won't even work without a download. All Playstations work offline.
Game Pass is not a good deal and I’d argue that it devalues their brand and IPs more. Everything is just a limited time event where no one cares about anything except the newest addition to the service. Yes SOME not all AAA games are 70 now, but people forget that Game Pass keeps going up too, and assuming you only play 3-4 major games a year, you’d still be better buying actual physical copies and reselling them towards the next thing. Or hell, owning it if you like it. Game Pass is very much conditioning people that games are just consumable and should be discarded once they aren’t popular anymore. They’ve also completely abandoned backwards compatibility, there are very few games that are actually BC. Xbox is trying to take over the market, push physical copies out of the picture, and force you to be connected and paying them 24/7 to play anything at all.
Xbox sucks.
Original Xbox was good. It was not better than a ps2...
Xbox 360 was great! But the red ring of death KILLED the system and the brand
Xbox One/S/X is where this system got VERY CONFUSING....the launch put the nail in the coffin (ie. must have internet to use system/no sharing games)
Xbox Series X is the system NOBODY wants...I swear to God I had to look up the name of the system...SERIES X...I keep forgetting that name (they ALL BLEND TOGETHER with the Xbox One S and Xbox One X)
I would buy a ps5, or a ps5 pro.
I would not buy an Xbox Series X
Edit:
after googling for a second time I realized there is also the XBOX SERIES S I forgot about...the inferior version of the system nobody wants....
There are multiple incorrect statements in this video, but the worst one has got to be that Deathloop is the highest rated Xbox game in 10 years. Five minutes of research would show you that Psychonauts 2, Ori 1&2, Forza Horizon 3-5, Hi-Fi Rush, & Microsoft Flight Simulator all have better or equal critical receptions as well as better audience receptions.
Yeah, really shows how biased he was in the later half.
HiFi is one of the biggest successes of a shadow drop ever and is many people's GOTY, it embodies everything people adore about good mid/small sized games made with passion and creativity.
One of those "The evidence is damming" in his Kimba vs Lion King video sorts of situations, further makes me wonder what other cases there are when Saber doesn't bother to actually fact check or recearch stuff he claims.
IMO the original xbox one features that could replace your cable box and be a all in one TV idea, was pretty cool and I remember using that stuff back in the day with OG version of the xbox one. They dropped after xbox one s,X and all-digital edition of the xbox one.
As a PC gamer, in my observation the reason why Xbox never recovered after the E3 2013 disaster is the fact that they've been releasing their 1st party games on PC. So for people who owns PC, they never cared to buy Xbox at all. While on Playstation, there are tons of 1st party games exclusives that are hardware sellers. Although that changed already when the pandemic hit in 2020, and Sony figured that releasing games on PC would be a feasible strategy to survive and make profit when people are stuck in their homes. But this doesn't mean Sony are always the good guys either, they also had fair share of bad decision including the backward compat for their latest consoles and many more.
And speaking of Microsoft, the reason why majority people are not interested in Xbox brand is the fact that Microsoft as an arrogant company has never had a great history to begin with. They are the monopoly in PC OS and Cloud service for a long long time, they pretty much wants to kill any competition they come across with. Oh and a fun fact: Did you know that Bill Gates even tried to buy Nintendo corp and Playstation brand to Sony back in the early 2000's but thank god they refused. Microsoft pretty much wants to be a monopoly in every aspects of the tech industry and that includes gaming which is why people hated them.
Don't believe everything that I've said? Look at the disaster that they've done in 2013 about the mandatory always online DRM for the Xbox one, it goes to show how arrogant they were. They thought they were untouchable at the top spot in console race that they started to implement their draconic strategy to gamers just because they managed to beat PS3 by small margin. But all thanks to Sony when they implemented the exact opposite and suffice to say they managed to recapture the hearts of the gamers. And the rest is history as they say and Xbox never recovered since then.
The "wider audience" is whats ruining it. When you try to widen the audience you attract. You water down your focus and end up appealing to nobody
NGL I remember when Sunset Overdrive was announced and how excited I was to see (and potentially play) such a colorful, comical, and quite frankly _beautiful_ take on the zombie apocalypse genre... right up until they made the mistake of announcing it as an Xbox One exclusive, which I wouldn't touch with a 360-foot pole even if I _had_ had the cash for it back then (especially not for the ONLY game I'd been looking forward to that I couldn't just get on the console I already had), so I just spent years being bummed out I could "never" play it (I was largely a Nintendo and PSX kid so the concept of backwards compatibility was largely foreign to me lol).
Good for you, because Sony owns the license now that they bought Insomniac. They could easily make a sequel, although they are busy with Spider-Man so we'll have to wait.
@@Thespywhoteabaggedme Oh yeah, I heard about that (and am most certainly excited for it)!
Literally the only downside is I get the feeling it'll only be on the next-gen consoles (simply from a "there's no way the PS4 wouldn't explode under the strain of trying to render a _fraction_ of a Sunset Overdrive sequel" stance lol).
@@submariNervoushave you heard of Hi-Fi Rush? It's kinda like Sunset Overdive.
@@averyfields8183 Funny you mention that! The first time I saw Hi-Fi Rush my knee-jerk reaction was to go "YOOOO SUNSET OVERDRIVE AND NSR SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR!" (and I was right lol.)
Nowadays I'm actually saving up to get the newest Xbox console since I know both of those games (as well as a TON of other games I really wanted to play but couldn't growing up) are available on it.
@@submariNervous I highly recommend it. You will not be disappointed!
I mean, what ruined Xbox was releasing a console that had an accidental suicide function on the 360, but that's just me.
I feel like Xbox prioritizes gamers more than their games. They’re making it super easy and cheap for gamers to play on a budget with the Series S and gamepass
Idk. I like to own physical copies of my games. Game pass seems great for poor families with small budgets cuz it's a 10.00 rental service except the games don't expire as long as you keep paying the 10.00 fee. But at the same time, if you ever want to move the game between consoles, you can't cuz they're bound to the 10.00 fees and so are the saved files and your progression (which is the life blood for a gamer but I guess it wouldn't matter to a casual). My save files are as precious as the physical copies themselves cuz I don't want to have to worry about having to be bound to a 10.00 service to have access. I also prefer to buy games directly from devs if possible on PC so I tend to stay off Steam. I think I only own 6 games on Steam that were gifted to me. Portal 1 and 2, half-life 1 and 2 and left 4 dead.
@@N.G.H.It's actually the other way around with save files and progress. I have been able to jump between my owned version of Fallout 4 and the gamespass version easily, and the cloud saves have enabled me to switch between multiple consoles. If it where not for the mods I have downloaded (those don't transfer) I could switch from my Xbox Series X to my Xbox One X in my bedroom, and then stream the game to my phone directly from Xbox servers later all continuing the same save.