Makes me wonder if the council have an ulterior motive 🤔 - let the plots go more and more overgrown, turn a blind eye when things are reported, turn a blind eye when rubbish is appearing in every corner - therefore no newcomers will be interested, the good growers will get so fed up that they’ll leave as well - result is a totally uncared for area with problems building up month on month - solution would be win win for the council as they can sell or develop the land - there’s money to be made and so maybe they’re just biding their time until they can blame the allotment holders for not looking after the site - those are my thoughts anyway x
This is what goes through my head. We are self managed, we have wanted the council to take it back as the chairman and committee are unable to work together and follow the constitution and handbook. Some plots holders then bend the rules with their committee cronies to suit themselves while others are treated differently. It’s lead to violence, it seems at the moment that we are ungovernable with the chairman and 2 other officers we have. This has lead us to want the council to take us back, to get control of the place. However I worry that your suggestion here is a very big possibility.
@@alisonforrester4612 I don’t know the answer to your problems because I’m not familiar with the workings of allotment committees etc but if I was in the same position I think I’d be tempted to go above the bureaucracy and contact both the local councillor and MP that govern the area concerned, ask for their help regarding fly tipping if that’s a problem on your site (and any other issues - no harm in asking - the worst they can say is that they can’t help) tell them you are concerned about the rubbish as it’s a health hazard and also give environmental health a ring (I once mentioned to my local housing association that I was going to report an issue to environmental health and within 30 minutes my problem had been resolved, I’d been on and off the phone over 3 hours and was getting nowhere until I said the magic “environmental health” words - I kid you not) I’d also get in touch with the local newspaper. Good luck x
YES..that is exactly what I was thinking...there would a few years ago be a person in the council,One would go to...as gardener myself..although I have huge garden..We must look after out alloyments....this council needs to be kept their eyes on....I do not know who the guy is...but....think think think....the council is corrupt.....band together..it is so obvious..
We have x2 stewards (chairman and treasurer) on our allotment site, who are appointed by the council, have a plot themselves, and live close. They do an amazing job of control/policing. Possibly worth floating this idea with your council.
This is criminal when there's probably a waiting list for an allotment. I was wondering if people had given up because of that compulsory purchase/road development thing but you say that's now been abandoned. So yes, very sad, the Council need to get their finger out and order the plot owners to clear up or give up their plots for someone else.
That makes total sense why the site looks abandoned, who wants to risk putting all the hard work in if it could be all for nothing. hopefully, in time it will be occupied again
Hi, I feel sorry for the people who look after their allotments, but I am very surprised the council has allowed this to continue. There are so many sites not being used, the council will end up closing the whole site, and selling off the land for housing.
I’ve not been able to work mine due to ill health. I saved up and got a few guys in but that cost me over £700 but still not how I need it. I’m hoping to make or get made wider paths to get my walker down as I’m quite wobbly on my feet these days. Slow and steady wins the race as they say xx
There is definitely an atmosphere of sadness about the allotments! The buzz has gone somehow. However Joe, It has made your decision easier I suppose. Good luck with your new permanent allotment...now you're going to make that buzz!!! x
Good video to show awareness of rubbish allotment holders who are selfish. The Indian gentleman is a very hard worker his plot is great shame his neighbours don’t work their plot This was excellent awareness i subscribed thank you
Me and Mrs got a allotment last September. Was full of weeds. Its blooming now almost 6 foot pea plants. Garlic carrots cabbage broccoli all sorts. Love it😊
Just came across your channel. Can’t believe how bad that sight is. I will watch more of your posts and hopefully it has improved. It’s all down to the allotment officer from the local council. Get on there case every day.
It’s a real shame Joe, Sorry you have to give your allotment up but the travelling would not be helpful for you, so I’m sure you’ve made the right decision. Best of luck with your newer allotment and with your future home garden as well. Cheers 🇦🇺❤️😄
This is heartbreaking, it’s not just an eye sore it’s detrimental to people who invest a lot of time, money and effort into keeping their plots beautiful … they’re having to work extra hard to keep weeds down due to other peoples negligence 😢
Has it got anything to do with people having to go back to work. I have an allotment and would like another plot. We have a waiting list of 200 so no chance of another. Most of our plots are well looked after but it is hard work.
Me and my daughter have just taken over an allotment. The bloke who had it before was into DIY. We have found all sorts of junk under the brambles including edging stones, lumps of concrete, carpet everywhere so you can’t have a good dig. It’s going to take us this year to try and make it workable. It’s a shame that people think it’s ok to use their plots as a tip 😡
Hi Joe, hope you and the family are all ok 😁, just don't understand why people take on a allotment, clear it up grow veg+flowers, then just leave it to go to scrub land again without picking anything, I've got 2 plots up in Nottingham, probably 70% of the plots are good, the other 30% don't bother 😂anyway take care 👍🙏
Joe, you were showing the tomatoes that had blight and said the plants need to be burnt but what about the soil? A friend has had this happen and whilst he can easily burn the plants what to do with the soil. they are two large pots so easier than a garden but I'm guessing he does not want that soil going into the garden or compost is there a good way to reclaim the soil?
Hi, the soil is fine to keep as long as you don’t continue to grow tomatoes in the same patch the following year. That also includes potatoes as they share so much naturally. The soil is still usable but not for crops that suffer from blight. It’s horrible when it happens isn’t it. I have to burn almost 150 tomato plants three years ago or so as a result
OK, thanks, I'll let him know the soil is safe (except for blight suffering crops) he did mention solarisation, so guess he could put plastic bag over the pots and leave them to get the sun to warm them (better in the summer but UK is not the hottest place) and basically bake the blight out. it's not the best thing to happen is it lol, I think the problem was he had two pots and they were close to each other (small pop up greenhouse) so lesson learnt to move them apart, plant out ASAP or get a 2nd pop up greenhouse and put 1 plant in each ;)
So, Joe, I am from Concord, California. I was wondering why there are allotments in your country. Is it that there is not land or gardens in the towns? It's a fascinating concept and I have only seen them in the US within communities such as 55 and over communities. Interesting....
I am not Joe but I also live in the UK, here people do have gardens but they are small, and people prefer to keep lawn in their gardens. Most allotment owners are people who have tiny backgardens or who dont have them at all. Its also great to have a community of other gardeners around you
Some sites have strict rules about the upkeep and kick people off and give it to people who are waiting for one. It is a shame if neighbours don't keep the weeds down because they encroach onto other sites. The fly tipping is outrageous, I had rubbish dumped on my allotment which was obviously from other allotment holders. I will put a camera up when I can afford it so I can keep an eye remotely.
Joe , I think it's such a shame that the council are they way they are in your area. But even more so the amount of apathy and unwillingness of the site comity to deal with the obvious problems at hand. It looks to me that it needs a good reshuffle and were needed replacement of comity members by the few that actually do give a monkeys about the site.And are able to liaise and chase up problems with the council. The old boy there stuck with his plot between two waistlands would make a good ambassador (Chairman)😉 It might be worth something to look into when moving onto your next allotment. Chatting to the other gardener's. Cant beat a bit of local knowledge lol anything to save the stress, disappointments and headaches. Anyway keep doing what your doing and stay true to yourself. All the best 💪 (subbed)
So sad that so many people have let things go and annoying for people who work so hard to do a good job. We have a few plots like this at ours and the weeds coming through from other people are so unfair.
Crazy a lot of plots on my sites the same ppl come look at them maybe start for month then don’t go back I took on second plot next to mine so one can grow more but stop the weed growth and control it just annoying hope u manage to get a happy place again what have you decided on other plot is that coming to an end x
On ours which is self managed, they get 2 uncultivted letters then they are asked to leave. They would also need to clear the rubbish, if not cleared, we would get cleared and ask the coucil to bill them.
Oh that is heartbreaking. I think anyone eager to take on a plot would be despondent to take a plot on when it looks like that. I think maybe they should make smaller plots at reduced rates. Maybe a small area with just community gardens. Maybe they can try to get a group home for disabled men or womento take a plot on as it would be a nice activity for them. I think maybe better committee would help and they should regularly check plots and issue clean up notices and if ignored vacating notices. Maybe the carpet could be placed over some of that really bad plots just to kill weeds for a few weeks and then moved to another weedy spot. I think council should maybe clean up some of the plots that have been dumped on or have been vacant for years.
TBF this last 18 months have been so hard on everyone that it shouldn't surprise us that some have lost heart and motivation for a lot of things. It feels like no one cares anymore.
I've got a double medium sized plot, in Kent last year i was in the carribean for 2.5 months came back to a bit of a mess , the Best way to do a allotment is little and often,
Like the elderly gentlemen said they take it on and don’t know how much work it is to keep it up. If they can’t do it they should give it up and let someone else do it. Very sad to see your plot after all the work you did do and it was lovely. Don’t look back, just move on. Hope you can take your stuff or give to someone that will be thankful for it. Joe feeling for you.
They don’t have inspections regularly? In mine they come often to check if the land is being given a good use if not only one worming and they take the plot from you
I restarted having an allotment the start of August this year, and the shocking condition of the plot was awful, the person before me planted about 5 fruit trees, dug a small pond (shoved what looks like a kids sandpit for the water in the hole and left the rest. (Oh and what seems to be randomly planting trees which now I have to attempt to dig up just to get a little bit of growing room) Oh and thanks for the videos they've been a great help with my plot.
Appalling should be down to council to police sites whether the fees are paid or not ,shame indeed… oh happy Birthday 🥳 to you have a good weekend keep at it love, lots of love Nan xx 😘
Did the council reverse the compulsory purchase, or just not carry it out? Did they notify the people they originally notified of the compulsory, of the reversal? You can't manage a garden without knowing that todays seeds, can have long enough to grow. Unfortunately the councils' funding has been diverted and looks like there will be cuts. Without a dynamic committee and some backing from the council, this won't be reversed. This will make it easier for this area to be built over, next time. A great shame.
Wow what a same. It's the same on my site like people are giving up I know mines not perfect but its sad to see mate. Omg the junk people dumping there 😱
I took a plot on myself last summer . I'm 6ft 2 tall and the weeds and trees I inherited was taller than myself . Felt like a child again playing in the meadows. Taken me 9 months to dig over and clear the wreckage . I got my plot in 6 weeks with a 2 year waiting list. My plan was always take anything and make it my own
This is so sad especially when there are people who would love to have a plot. There are only 20 plots on our allotment and all are beautiful. The council are very hot on us making sure they are kept up. You are not allowed to grow only particular veg or fruit, there most be a variation of products being grown. If your plot is not cut down after six months you will receive a notice to quit if no work is done within 28days.
I would love an allotment and some where to go to escape from the house especially being decabled aswell am currently using my garden as an allotment but my only choice is pots pots and more pots people who have allotments are so lucky I just wish I knew about allotments 10 years ago for me and the kids to look after there 16 and 14 now so not intrested in the gardening xxx
It is such a privilege to have an allotment, that it makes the sight of all those neglected and abandoned plots so sad. I wonder if there is an agenda to sell off this site to developers in order to make a massive profit for the council. How can you get people to commit to growing and maintaining what they have been lucky enough to get?
I see both sides of this argument tbh. I waited a year and a half for my allotment, and when I finally got it the soil was like black clay, and four inches under the surface was large rocks. I tried to clear it and start planting but but just digging up a few square metres was three hours work. You dig out about ten pounds of rock, put it in a pile, come back later. Meanwhile the people on the next allotment did a pristine job. In the space of three months and about 200 hours labour, they had paid for everything. Seriously, they came in with a cheque book, bought all the Gucci stuff, paid labourers, and then encroached across the separating border to push me further down the hill (shielding my allotment from light) Im sure this Indian guy is a pro when it comes to allotments, but he didnt get there instantly. Im also now painfully aware of what its like to be on an allotment where everyone has an opinion of how you do it. Well I pay my money every six months for my allotment. Couch grass is growing in from every direction. Why someone would blame me for the couch grass on ONE SIDE of their allotment is beyond me..... And lets face it ... most people on allotments that are not veterans are using family labour or money to have a nice set up. I cant afford the lumber for raised beds.... the neighbour who nicked one metre of my allotment has £300 poly tunnels
Hello this is the first time seeing you and this allotment site. I am following several folks having allotment sites. So Surprised saddened dismayed. The complete lack of respect shown by the council that accepts rent for a clean site and well managed allotments. The few that are working and caring for their plots should be given free rent or severely reduced rent. I do not know where you live where this place is and where other sites are in relation to where you live. I would think carefully before just quitting. I did hear you say you have a son you want to be introduced to this way of growing food being good stewards of the land we are blessed to have. So I hope you can find a good solution and make the best real decision that benefits you and your family as your first responsibility is to your family. Remove everyone else and all the other allotment plots from your mind and see can you find the desire to continue this here or look for another place. Good luck to you mate blessings for you as you work on this situation.
In the world we live in now I would of thought people would use them just for green space like a garden away from home. I can’t believe how many vacant and trash plots there are.
Joe , how came the council lets plots like this go unatended and overgrown, surely this should have been addressed way before the plot got into this state.
Why don’t the Committee do anything about all the unworked plots? We’ve got problems on our site, we’re self managed, but the Chairman is useless. It’s a committee of 11, but 3 of them act alone for the sake of their cronie friends. They don’t act by the constitution and handbook. Because they bend the rules, it’s created anger, violence etc! It’s so frustrating. At the moment there is mutiny at the site! To have unworked plots next to you blowing weed seeds all over your plot! I really feel for that guy with a beautiful plot surrounded by 2 weed jungles. Surely you need a Committee that wants to do the job! I LOVE my allotment, but I find it so frustrating that we have a lazy Chairman and 3 ‘bent’ committee members…. Our site could be one to be proud of and it’s not.
fly tipping is a big problem everywhere. people have shown their true colours since covid in that they only care about themselves. every road where I live has fly tipping and / or broken glass across the pavements, NOT good for dog walking (I too have a husky) I believe the councils are not bothered and are just hoping that people will go around and clear up the mess, meaning the council do not have to pay for this and they can give the bosses big bonuses - possibly the same as what is going on in that allotment space maybe either the people with nice plots need to with hold payment for the plot until the others are cleared or they should just take over the other plots and see what the council says, if it's not being used why would the council care? and if they council want to take the land back for a new owner then hand the council a bill for cleaning the site! (yeah I doubt they would get the money but...)
There should be a rule in place that if you neglect your plot, you lose it. Simple!! Its plain to see that people abuse having them. They are a luxury item. Some people don't deserve an allotment. Fly tippers should be forced to clean their crap up & then be slapped with a hefty fine. Simple.
Shame it's not like here. The smaller plots are paid for yearly and you get fined if yours is dirty. The fines get bigger after the first fine. Or they are banned from the gardens. Peace
I feel so sorry to see these allotments The lovely man should stay 1 metre deep from fence line to stop weeds blowing in his yard. Do you pay much money for the Allotments?.
It’s actually criminal, to see the neglect and rubbish dumped. we rented out some land to people with horses who when evicted for non payment left the biggest amount of junk on the land, refrigerator panels amongst it, the land was a wreck. Cost us thousands in legal fees and removal of rubbish let alone new fencing. It’s a widespread problem in the UK. How sad for those doing the right thing Joe send a copy of your video to the council it really is not acceptable, I feel so sorry for that lovely gentleman. What council is it? Name them and shame them.
Time to get rid of the committee or council rep. What about the council sending in a tree removal/wood chopper to clear all of the rubbish lots so new gardeners have a chance?
It is so sad...if the allotments are too big,for,people,to,manage.halve,them,with the price of food going up,and thedemand for allotments going sky high..it,s ,really bad that people are not toeing the line...
A lot of people find a full size plot too large to handle but councils appear loath to reorganise into half size plots. I took on a 'jungle' plot in February, only to find it was 100-150mm of topsoil over iron mine waste. Bought in 8 tons of topsoil & 3 tons of domestic green waste compost for a 90m² plot,added a 10'x20' polytunnel & have harvested 120kg of maincrop potatoes, 40kg of tomatoes, 15kg French beans, peppers, cucumbers, rhubarb... Asked if I could take on the overgrown plot next to mine but was told there was a waiting list. If so, why have I had to hit it with weedkiller twice to keep the mess from spreading seeds all over the place?
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I'm trying to get my first allotment now in London. If you want to come help me feel free, I got no idea where to even start LOL!
@@tim8602 All the help you need to gain your first Allotment is here on the channel Tim
Makes me wonder if the council have an ulterior motive 🤔 - let the plots go more and more overgrown, turn a blind eye when things are reported, turn a blind eye when rubbish is appearing in every corner - therefore no newcomers will be interested, the good growers will get so fed up that they’ll leave as well - result is a totally uncared for area with problems building up month on month - solution would be win win for the council as they can sell or develop the land - there’s money to be made and so maybe they’re just biding their time until they can blame the allotment holders for not looking after the site - those are my thoughts anyway x
This is what goes through my head. We are self managed, we have wanted the council to take it back as the chairman and committee are unable to work together and follow the constitution and handbook. Some plots holders then bend the rules with their committee cronies to suit themselves while others are treated differently. It’s lead to violence, it seems at the moment that we are ungovernable with the chairman and 2 other officers we have. This has lead us to want the council to take us back, to get control of the place. However I worry that your suggestion here is a very big possibility.
@@alisonforrester4612 I don’t know the answer to your problems because I’m not familiar with the workings of allotment committees etc but if I was in the same position I think I’d be tempted to go above the bureaucracy and contact both the local councillor and MP that govern the area concerned, ask for their help regarding fly tipping if that’s a problem on your site (and any other issues - no harm in asking - the worst they can say is that they can’t help) tell them you are concerned about the rubbish as it’s a health hazard and also give environmental health a ring (I once mentioned to my local housing association that I was going to report an issue to environmental health and within 30 minutes my problem had been resolved, I’d been on and off the phone over 3 hours and was getting nowhere until I said the magic “environmental health” words - I kid you not) I’d also get in touch with the local newspaper. Good luck x
Exactly what I thought.
YES..that is exactly what I was thinking...there would a few years ago be a person in the council,One would go to...as gardener myself..although I have huge garden..We must look after out alloyments....this council needs to be kept their eyes on....I do not know who the guy is...but....think think think....the council is corrupt.....band together..it is so obvious..
This is exactly what's happening.
We have x2 stewards (chairman and treasurer) on our allotment site, who are appointed by the council, have a plot themselves, and live close. They do an amazing job of control/policing. Possibly worth floating this idea with your council.
This is criminal when there's probably a waiting list for an allotment. I was wondering if people had given up because of that compulsory purchase/road development thing but you say that's now been abandoned. So yes, very sad, the Council need to get their finger out and order the plot owners to clear up or give up their plots for someone else.
That makes total sense why the site looks abandoned, who wants to risk putting all the hard work in if it could be all for nothing. hopefully, in time it will be occupied again
watching this makes me so grateful for the small allotments my plot is on there's only 30 plots on it and they are all immaculate.
Hi, I feel sorry for the people who look after their allotments, but I am very surprised the council has allowed this to continue. There are so many sites not being used, the council will end up closing the whole site, and selling off the land for housing.
I’ve not been able to work mine due to ill health. I saved up and got a few guys in but that cost me over £700 but still not how I need it. I’m hoping to make or get made wider paths to get my walker down as I’m quite wobbly on my feet these days. Slow and steady wins the race as they say xx
There is definitely an atmosphere of sadness about the allotments! The buzz has gone somehow. However Joe, It has made your decision easier I suppose. Good luck with your new permanent allotment...now you're going to make that buzz!!! x
80 years old the Indian gentleman is a Fantastic gardener his allotment was immaculate
100% agree
Good video to show awareness of rubbish allotment holders who are selfish. The Indian gentleman is a very hard worker his plot is great shame his neighbours don’t work their plot
This was excellent awareness i subscribed thank you
Me and Mrs got a allotment last September. Was full of weeds. Its blooming now almost 6 foot pea plants. Garlic carrots cabbage broccoli all sorts. Love it😊
Those plots are sweet. Huge. You can easily grow enough veg for a family for a year if you know what you’re doing.
What is an allotment? Is it part of an apartment complex
Aww bless that gentleman such a shame. Hopefully Joe by you sharing perhaps something may can be done. Blessings luv Ontario Canada Thankyou 🐝
Just came across your channel. Can’t believe how bad that sight is. I will watch more of your posts and hopefully it has improved. It’s all down to the allotment officer from the local council. Get on there case every day.
It’s a real shame Joe, Sorry you have to give your allotment up but the travelling would not be helpful for you, so I’m sure you’ve made the right decision. Best of luck with your newer allotment and with your future home garden as well. Cheers 🇦🇺❤️😄
What a decent ole fella on that site joe…….keep us all updated if you visit this site again.
This is heartbreaking, it’s not just an eye sore it’s detrimental to people who invest a lot of time, money and effort into keeping their plots beautiful … they’re having to work extra hard to keep weeds down due to other peoples negligence 😢
Has it got anything to do with people having to go back to work. I have an allotment and would like another plot. We have a waiting list of 200 so no chance of another. Most of our plots are well looked after but it is hard work.
Do you still have the Dorset plot or did I miss something?
Me and my daughter have just taken over an allotment. The bloke who had it before was into DIY. We have found all sorts of junk under the brambles including edging stones, lumps of concrete, carpet everywhere so you can’t have a good dig. It’s going to take us this year to try and make it workable. It’s a shame that people think it’s ok to use their plots as a tip 😡
Just been waiting 2 years for a plot, can't wait to get stuck in....shame plots end up like this....Dame waste.
Hi Joe, hope you and the family are all ok 😁, just don't understand why people take on a allotment, clear it up grow veg+flowers, then just leave it to go to scrub land again without picking anything, I've got 2 plots up in Nottingham, probably 70% of the plots are good, the other 30% don't bother 😂anyway take care 👍🙏
Iv had my plot about 4 months love it but im so annoyed with the ground its so unlevel and its huge any tips?
So sad for the people who put so much work into their plots.
Loads of empty plots on my allotments and plenty of people on the waiting list. It's very strange.
Joe, you were showing the tomatoes that had blight and said the plants need to be burnt but what about the soil?
A friend has had this happen and whilst he can easily burn the plants what to do with the soil. they are two large pots so easier than a garden but I'm guessing he does not want that soil going into the garden or compost is there a good way to reclaim the soil?
Hi, the soil is fine to keep as long as you don’t continue to grow tomatoes in the same patch the following year. That also includes potatoes as they share so much naturally. The soil is still usable but not for crops that suffer from blight. It’s horrible when it happens isn’t it. I have to burn almost 150 tomato plants three years ago or so as a result
OK, thanks, I'll let him know the soil is safe (except for blight suffering crops) he did mention solarisation, so guess he could put plastic bag over the pots and leave them to get the sun to warm them (better in the summer but UK is not the hottest place) and basically bake the blight out. it's not the best thing to happen is it lol, I think the problem was he had two pots and they were close to each other (small pop up greenhouse) so lesson learnt to move them apart, plant out ASAP or get a 2nd pop up greenhouse and put 1 plant in each ;)
So, Joe, I am from Concord, California. I was wondering why there are allotments in your country. Is it that there is not land or gardens in the towns? It's a fascinating concept and I have only seen them in the US within communities such as 55 and over communities. Interesting....
I am not Joe but I also live in the UK, here people do have gardens but they are small, and people prefer to keep lawn in their gardens. Most allotment owners are people who have tiny backgardens or who dont have them at all. Its also great to have a community of other gardeners around you
Some sites have strict rules about the upkeep and kick people off and give it to people who are waiting for one. It is a shame if neighbours don't keep the weeds down because they encroach onto other sites. The fly tipping is outrageous, I had rubbish dumped on my allotment which was obviously from other allotment holders. I will put a camera up when I can afford it so I can keep an eye remotely.
Joe , I think it's such a shame that the council are they way they are in your area. But even more so the amount of apathy and unwillingness of the site comity to deal with the obvious problems at hand. It looks to me that it needs a good reshuffle and were needed replacement of comity members by the few that actually do give a monkeys about the site.And are able to liaise and chase up problems with the council. The old boy there stuck with his plot between two waistlands would make a good ambassador (Chairman)😉
It might be worth something to look into when moving onto your next allotment. Chatting to the other gardener's. Cant beat a bit of local knowledge lol anything to save the stress, disappointments and headaches. Anyway keep doing what your doing and stay true to yourself.
All the best 💪 (subbed)
So sad that so many people have let things go and annoying for people who work so hard to do a good job. We have a few plots like this at ours and the weeds coming through from other people are so unfair.
Crazy a lot of plots on my sites the same ppl come look at them maybe start for month then don’t go back I took on second plot next to mine so one can grow more but stop the weed growth and control it just annoying hope u manage to get a happy place again what have you decided on other plot is that coming to an end x
Where do you get water from?
I live in Australia Sydney NSW, my council has similar allotments for market gardeners which do well.
From the water butts on site
On ours which is self managed, they get 2 uncultivted letters then they are asked to leave. They would also need to clear the rubbish, if not cleared, we would get cleared and ask the coucil to bill them.
Should happen everywhere
Oh that is heartbreaking. I think anyone eager to take on a plot would be despondent to take a plot on when it looks like that. I think maybe they should make smaller plots at reduced rates. Maybe a small area with just community gardens. Maybe they can try to get a group home for disabled men or womento take a plot on as it would be a nice activity for them. I think maybe better committee would help and they should regularly check plots and issue clean up notices and if ignored vacating notices. Maybe the carpet could be placed over some of that really bad plots just to kill weeds for a few weeks and then moved to another weedy spot. I think council should maybe clean up some of the plots that have been dumped on or have been vacant for years.
TBF this last 18 months have been so hard on everyone that it shouldn't surprise us that some have lost heart and motivation for a lot of things. It feels like no one cares anymore.
I've got an allotment in my village and at least 2 of the 12 plots are like that and I'm 10th on the waiting list! Its so frustrating 😫 😤 😩
I've got a double medium sized plot, in Kent last year i was in the carribean for 2.5 months came back to a bit of a mess , the Best way to do a allotment is little and often,
Where is that site and what's the cost of the rent for the size of plot per square metre?
That is absolutely heartbreaking x
wooooooooooow, some shocking scenes at that site Joe.
We have the same problem in ours, lots of new people took up bad plots during lockdown and now they are all neglected. Waste of money and time.
Like the elderly gentlemen said they take it on and don’t know how much work it is to keep it up. If they can’t do it they should give it up and let someone else do it. Very sad to see your plot after all the work you did do and it was lovely. Don’t look back, just move on. Hope you can take your stuff or give to someone that will be thankful for it. Joe feeling for you.
That's such a shame, it brings a tear to my eye seeing how bad the allotments look, it reminds me of a wasteground.
They don’t have inspections regularly? In mine they come often to check if the land is being given a good use if not only one worming and they take the plot from you
Never inspected
I restarted having an allotment the start of August this year, and the shocking condition of the plot was awful, the person before me planted about 5 fruit trees, dug a small pond (shoved what looks like a kids sandpit for the water in the hole and left the rest. (Oh and what seems to be randomly planting trees which now I have to attempt to dig up just to get a little bit of growing room)
Oh and thanks for the videos they've been a great help with my plot.
So annoying mate, my local council has a 3 year waiting list for any allotments.
Allotments are for growing food, they should be inspected twice a year to show that this is happening and those in default assisted or thrown off.
Appalling should be down to council to police sites whether the fees are paid or not ,shame indeed… oh happy Birthday 🥳 to you have a good weekend keep at it love, lots of love Nan xx 😘
Thanks so much Carol xx
Did the council reverse the compulsory purchase, or just not carry it out? Did they notify the people they originally notified of the compulsory, of the reversal? You can't manage a garden without knowing that todays seeds, can have long enough to grow. Unfortunately the councils' funding has been diverted and looks like there will be cuts. Without a dynamic committee and some backing from the council, this won't be reversed. This will make it easier for this area to be built over, next time. A great shame.
Wow what a same. It's the same on my site like people are giving up I know mines not perfect but its sad to see mate. Omg the junk people dumping there 😱
It’s terrible mate
I took a plot on myself last summer . I'm 6ft 2 tall and the weeds and trees I inherited was taller than myself . Felt like a child again playing in the meadows. Taken me 9 months to dig over and clear the wreckage . I got my plot in 6 weeks with a 2 year waiting list. My plan was always take anything and make it my own
Perhaps folk have died and plots have been abandoned? Get councillors involved, local press, local MP?
very sad, I am an allotment holder, my thoughts are with you, John
This is so sad especially when there are people who would love to have a plot. There are only 20 plots on our allotment and all are beautiful. The council are very hot on us making sure they are kept up. You are not allowed to grow only particular veg or fruit, there most be a variation of products being grown. If your plot is not cut down after six months you will receive a notice to quit if no work is done within 28days.
He's 80 years old and doesn't need that stress.
I would love an allotment and some where to go to escape from the house especially being decabled aswell am currently using my garden as an allotment but my only choice is pots pots and more pots people who have allotments are so lucky I just wish I knew about allotments 10 years ago for me and the kids to look after there 16 and 14 now so not intrested in the gardening xxx
This is so sad. There are people here in the city of Plymouth who are desperate for an allotment.
IS THERE STILL A WAITING LIST
I COULDNT STAND ALL THE ROAD NOISE NO.THANKS. YES ALLOTMENTS NOT STARVING SMART. THE ROAD NOISE IS DISTRESSING
It is such a privilege to have an allotment, that it makes the sight of all those neglected and abandoned plots so sad. I wonder if there is an agenda to sell off this site to developers in order to make a massive profit for the council. How can you get people to commit to growing and maintaining what they have been lucky enough to get?
I see both sides of this argument tbh.
I waited a year and a half for my allotment, and when I finally got it the soil was like black clay, and four inches under the surface was large rocks.
I tried to clear it and start planting but but just digging up a few square metres was three hours work. You dig out about ten pounds of rock, put it in a pile, come back later.
Meanwhile the people on the next allotment did a pristine job. In the space of three months and about 200 hours labour, they had paid for everything. Seriously, they came in with a cheque book, bought all the Gucci stuff, paid labourers, and then encroached across the separating border to push me further down the hill (shielding my allotment from light)
Im sure this Indian guy is a pro when it comes to allotments, but he didnt get there instantly.
Im also now painfully aware of what its like to be on an allotment where everyone has an opinion of how you do it.
Well I pay my money every six months for my allotment.
Couch grass is growing in from every direction.
Why someone would blame me for the couch grass on ONE SIDE of their allotment is beyond me.....
And lets face it ... most people on allotments that are not veterans are using family labour or money to have a nice set up.
I cant afford the lumber for raised beds.... the neighbour who nicked one metre of my allotment has £300 poly tunnels
Such a shame to see allotments go to rack and ruin, when there are waiting lists of maybe 9-11 years in places. Shocking.
Hello this is the first time seeing you and this allotment site. I am following several folks having allotment sites. So Surprised saddened dismayed. The complete lack of respect shown by the council that accepts rent for a clean site and well managed allotments. The few that are working and caring for their plots should be given free rent or severely reduced rent. I do not know where you live where this place is and where other sites are in relation to where you live. I would think carefully before just quitting. I did hear you say you have a son you want to be introduced to this way of growing food being good stewards of the land we are blessed to have. So I hope you can find a good solution and make the best real decision that benefits you and your family as your first responsibility is to your family. Remove everyone else and all the other allotment plots from your mind and see can you find the desire to continue this here or look for another place. Good luck to you mate blessings for you as you work on this situation.
I wonder if he can put up tarps to create a barrier.
In the world we live in now I would of thought people would use them just for green space like a garden away from home. I can’t believe how many vacant and trash plots there are.
Joe , how came the council lets plots like this go unatended and overgrown, surely this should have been addressed way before the plot got into this state.
Because they get paid for.
God this is so sad to see. This is a reflection of the UK these days. We’ve lost our way.
Shocking I'm on a waiting list for two years now 😡
See how the old boy is dresses down his allotment.
Be lucky to get me looking that smart in the office lol.
Why don’t the Committee do anything about all the unworked plots? We’ve got problems on our site, we’re self managed, but the Chairman is useless. It’s a committee of 11, but 3 of them act alone for the sake of their cronie friends. They don’t act by the constitution and handbook. Because they bend the rules, it’s created anger, violence etc! It’s so frustrating. At the moment there is mutiny at the site! To have unworked plots next to you blowing weed seeds all over your plot! I really feel for that guy with a beautiful plot surrounded by 2 weed jungles. Surely you need a Committee that wants to do the job! I LOVE my allotment, but I find it so frustrating that we have a lazy Chairman and 3 ‘bent’ committee members…. Our site could be one to be proud of and it’s not.
Make sure you all go to the next AGM and vote out the committee if something is not done. Its wicked ( real meaning), when so many waiting for a plot.
Jesus, what area is that?
Has exactly the same issue when I was trying to get a plot. Owners letting it overgrown as they want to sell it for housing
100%
fly tipping is a big problem everywhere. people have shown their true colours since covid in that they only care about themselves. every road where I live has fly tipping and / or broken glass across the pavements, NOT good for dog walking (I too have a husky) I believe the councils are not bothered and are just hoping that people will go around and clear up the mess, meaning the council do not have to pay for this and they can give the bosses big bonuses - possibly the same as what is going on in that allotment space
maybe either the people with nice plots need to with hold payment for the plot until the others are cleared or they should just take over the other plots and see what the council says, if it's not being used why would the council care? and if they council want to take the land back for a new owner then hand the council a bill for cleaning the site!
(yeah I doubt they would get the money but...)
Plots all over the country but yet people are on the waiting list for years our lass waited 7 year for ours
Check out the link in the description....
I can't find a link in your description other than a fund me page..
Huge allotments! How big are they?
10 pole to 11 pole
When there are people in other areas on a long waiting list it's upsetting to see 😢
There should be a rule in place that if you neglect your plot, you lose it. Simple!! Its plain to see that people abuse having them. They are a luxury item. Some people don't deserve an allotment. Fly tippers should be forced to clean their crap up & then be slapped with a hefty fine. Simple.
With the price of food all plots should be utilised. Good video.
Shame it's not like here. The smaller plots are paid for yearly and you get fined if yours is dirty. The fines get bigger after the first fine. Or they are banned from the gardens. Peace
I feel so sorry to see these allotments
The lovely man should stay 1 metre deep from fence line to stop weeds blowing in his yard.
Do you pay much money for the Allotments?.
£20 to 140 per plot depending on size etc, it’s a real shame no one running the site give a damn about the hard working folks
I'm just getting a allotment I been to look at it today it's as bad as the ones on your video
Ours have been quiet recently too...just seems to be the 3 same women there every day (including me)
It’s actually criminal, to see the neglect and rubbish dumped. we rented out some land to people with horses who when evicted for non payment left the biggest amount of junk on the land, refrigerator panels amongst it, the land was a wreck. Cost us thousands in legal fees and removal of rubbish let alone new fencing. It’s a widespread problem in the UK. How sad for those doing the right thing
Joe send a copy of your video to the council it really is not acceptable, I feel so sorry for that lovely gentleman. What council is it? Name them and shame them.
Time to get rid of the committee or council rep. What about the council sending in a tree removal/wood chopper to clear all of the rubbish lots so new gardeners have a chance?
Wild spaces aren't bad either. Wildlife thrives.
Them that have an allotment and don't work it should give it up to those on the waiting list
Ti's sad but there is good habitat for critters
Its sad to see. There are people that are crying out for allotments. That could have maintained it alot earlier. Hope it gets sorted .
Also in my area I cant get on a list that is not in my village 😒 is that a thing?
@@AlexAstrid Yea unfortunately there is normally a catchment area radius for plots
Report to council, there are so many people awaiting plots, this isn’t fair
Did the community do anything?
Unfortunately not because they all pay their bills so are allowed to stay.
Which council is this? Shocking waste of allotment land when food is so expensive. Name and Shane?
Slough
It is so sad...if the allotments are too big,for,people,to,manage.halve,them,with the price of food going up,and thedemand for allotments going sky high..it,s ,really bad that people are not toeing the line...
they should get back to basics. maybe just grow potatoes for a couple of years.
heartbreaking seeming it like that ,
The Council should clean them all up
It is sad but I would never judge someone else, you don't know what's going on in their life.
There’s a difference
Neighbours...aaaah.
Sort ya bloody plot out. If you don't use it,don't have it and pass it on to someone who will
Its so sad to see. I'll wager this site will be sold off for housing. That's where the money is for cash strapped councils.
A lot of people find a full size plot too large to handle but councils appear loath to reorganise into half size plots.
I took on a 'jungle' plot in February, only to find it was 100-150mm of topsoil over iron mine waste.
Bought in 8 tons of topsoil & 3 tons of domestic green waste compost for a 90m² plot,added a 10'x20' polytunnel & have harvested 120kg of maincrop potatoes, 40kg of tomatoes, 15kg French beans, peppers, cucumbers, rhubarb...
Asked if I could take on the overgrown plot next to mine but was told there was a waiting list. If so, why have I had to hit it with weedkiller twice to keep the mess from spreading seeds all over the place?