@@TheWeirdDinosaur Yeah and Goku didn't win using It, if anything the whole energy consumption thing is why he couldn't win And Gotenks did not win like....at all?
Vegeta getting SSJ3 was so hype dude and I love it’s design it’s actually unique. Not only did vegeta get a win but SSJ3 too, two negatives make a positive 😂
imo SSJ3 having a somewhat different design depending on the user is a while lot cooler than all of them just basically being the exact same minus the hairline and bangs
Nah, this looks ass Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for a clean Vegeta W, and I think there is definitely a world where you make Vegeta's SSJ3 look a little more unique compared to Gotenks/Goku, but this design needed several more days in the oven.
@@monkeycrimson6087I'm not sure if that'll fix this. We've got both a canon and non canon designs for kids with ss3 and neither looked this bad. I just think it should've stayed as concept art.
This makes the second only canonical win for using SSJ3 in a fight now. Right after SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ2 Future Trunks in the DBS Anime. Still Vegeta can make that claim now.
@dtylor3680 it's just a factual statemen. And actually I find Goku fans waaaayyyyy more annoying. They glaze him for literally anything and can't acknowledge he gets a** pull power ups just bc he's the main character.
@@superzockertvyt9630 Okay to be fair I did forgot about that. Though that fight makes it weird for in the DBS manga Goku switched to SSG to defeat Future Trunks. So both versions are saying too different things. Though I will amend my statement. Also to other commenters Vegeta is NOT not my favorite character. So chill.
Vegeta finally getting a form Goku already got a few arcs back and Goku also happens to use it way better, a common trope but congrats for him getting a W👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Way better at using it might be a bit of a stretch. We only saw vegeta fight in for a couple minutes. But I'm glad he finally has it. Maybe we'll even get an ss3 vegito
@@blackwhitestudios5953Show me when Goku ever used ss3 effectively without gasing out? Let alone getting a win with it. Sure seemed like Vegeta wasn't drained after using it for 3 minutes.... didn't even want the bug.
@SoloDoloToker The only time we've seen goku tired out from ss3 is when he fought kid buu. Every other time he was on a time limit on earth. Unless you count super, he knocked out trunks no problem but that's technically later. And again vegeta fought for like a minute against a guy who gave up. I'm happy for vegeta but we gotta be honest. Now if they come out and say the tamagamis are all stronger than buuhan then ill take back what I said
Vegeta was getting dunked on ever since he joined along, he deserved this, not only showing that he in fact does have SSJ3, but also earned Super Saiyan 3 it's first win (in canon), I hope we see him use SSJ3 more in the future
@@AdderMoray Before they could master the form and decrease its stamina drain, we were introduced to SSG, unfortunately making ssj3 obsolete, considering it's goku and vegeta's strongest forms in Daima, let's hope for the best
@Animefan_7153-0 Goku had 4 years of peace to "master" the form. If it was a thing that could be done, it would have been. Like USSJ1 and 2, it's an inherently flawed form. Just in a far more useful way since it's a legitimate, if temporary, all-around boost.
@AdderMoray It took Goku 4 years to master ssj1, he obtained it on namek, 3 years passed in training for the androids, and the 4th year in tbe time chamber, ssj3 would naturally take more than 4 years to master, and you can't say he had more than 4 years due to unlocking it sometime in the 7 year timeskip because in the afterlife he wasn't even aware of the drain, as far as he knew the form was already perfected
When u think about it vegeta never lost on a fight between goku and Goku never used ssj3 so now that argument is thrown of the bag and also vegeta is being smart as hell proves he is simply limited by pride
@@durgalakshmig2540technically yes but even more technically the first time they fought Vegetas intent was to kill Goku and he couldn’t, Goku on the other hand wanted to spare him if possible and he did. He was never able to prove superiority above Goku as Goku is always literally 1 step ahead, it’s just how he’s written… I get your point tho
Umm if your talking about in Super that's a hard yes. In Z no. Diama is in between Z and super which makes sense. If dude can go SSB of course he can go SS3 it's the same as him never using the regular SSG till the Broly fight.
@schrodingersdog5512 Look it up. A simple google search will tell you it takes place in the year 775, which is one year after Buu Saga and 3 years before super. They also gave a reference from Super in Diama by acknowledgment of going to Universe 7 on their way to get Dende. The world being called Universe 7 is from super, so yes, they are connected, and Diama is cannon.
@@schrodingersdog5512 fun fact: it can, the ONLY contradiction is shin and kibito, as all other things have been explained, but the show hasn't ended yet, so even that can be changed
Vegeta secures his first DUB with style, vegeta fans get this one. (Also this is the first dub ssj3 ever got!!) Edit: for YOU ANNOYING VEGETA FANS, I MEAN IN THE SERIES OF DAIMA, I THINK ANYONE WITH A BRAIN KNOWS VEGETA WON FIGHTS OTHER THAN THIS. YOUR TRYING TO SOUND SMART WHEN YOUR JS DEFENDING AGAINST THIN AIR.
First dub? so Qui,Dodoria,Zarbon,jiece, #19,Pui pui werent dubs? even cell could be counted as a dub because he won the fight just decided not to finish him. Plus Goku in their first fight.
31:11 It makes the most sense for Vegeta to get it naturally. Vegeta is a prodigy. Don’t forget he unlocked God Ki through training and without a ritual.
@@unrecognizably if you are talking about during his time dead in the saiyan saga thats only because he was slowly adjusting to king kai's planet's gravity, and even so he quickly recovered and kept going
Katatz is the name of the Nameless Namekian's Dad, and Piccolo by this point is that Nameless Namekian since he fused back with Kami so Katatz is his dad we already knew this. the only new info there was that Katatz was born on the Demon Realm
1:45 We've known about Katas forever. Katattsu in the Manga if you wanna google it, he was the father of the 'nameless namekian' that split into Kami and Piccolo... so Technically Piccolo's grandfather, since he was born of King Piccolo. Edit: Even the Abridged version's Guru mentions 'the son of Katas'
Good to see you didn’t get fully spoiled on Super Saiyan 3, I got unlucky and opened up twitter in the morning to see SSJ3 Vegeta before the episode even dropped
We’ve known about Katatz since the Namek Saga at least. Guru called Piccolo Daimao / Kami / Nameless Namekian “the Son of Katatz” - though the dub may have called him Kattas.
I just realized that Arinsu is gonna neglect Majin Kuu and he’s gonna feel angry and maybe absorb Majin Duu to impress her but maybe become unhinged into a menace Majin named Majin Fuu
7:20 Imma call it, Lil Saibaman has a transformation and when he said 'it was too dangerous to continue' he meant he would have probably destroyed the dragonball and area in the fight... not that he'd lose.
The katatz guy was mentioned before. He was the nameless namekian’s dad (aka the one that split into demon king piccolo) and since piccolo is a reincarnation, it’s technically his dad too
I personally just wished past DB content just didn't try so much to deny the existence of ssj3 so when it actually got retconned(people look at this word so negatively it's literally fine as long as it's cool) because now we only have head canon/interpretation to go off of for the plots hole surrounding this.
Toriyama on the way out really said:”Farewell Goku, Piccolo, and yes…even you….Vegeta. *gives him super Sayain 3*”
ong bro
I love this one !! 😝
@@Travellahhnah im 14
@@Travellahh23 slime
this channel E for everyone 💯😈
@@xxblackkingxx3163 don't say God's name in vain
RIP to the GOAT Toriyama. Finally giving Vegeta some respect as a last gift to us fans.
After roasting Vegeta the entire Dalaima😂
THIS SHIT MRAN SOMETHING TO MEEEEEEE😢😭🤧
RIP this man bro on everything
Super Saiyan 3's first canonical victory and it's from Vegeta. What an insane timeline we live in.
goku used ssj3 against buu and so did gotenks...
@@TheWeirdDinosaur
Yeah and Goku didn't win using It, if anything the whole energy consumption thing is why he couldn't win
And Gotenks did not win like....at all?
@@voxerz173do we count movies? I don’t, but just to be sure
@@UniCopsthe original comment specified “canonical” so z movies like wrath of the dragon arent included
Technically its first dub was SSJ3 Goku defeating SSJ2 Future Trunks in their sparring match in the Black Goku Saga
Vegeta getting SSJ3 was so hype dude and I love it’s design it’s actually unique. Not only did vegeta get a win but SSJ3 too, two negatives make a positive 😂
ITS PEAK
ITS PEAK
I LOVE DRAGONBALL
as a vegeta fan, and it also being my birthday? this was the best gift i could’ve asked for ngl
Happy birthday
Happy birthday😊
Happy birthday
Happy Birthday Buddy 🎉🎉🎉
Goku: “hey Vegeta!”
Vegeta: “WHAT KAKAROT”
Goku: “wanna hear a joke?”
Vegeta: “what is it”
Goku: “super saiyan three”
Vegeta: “I get it”
Goku: “exac- wha?”
Finally that dumbass unfunny joke is coming to a close
I was waiting for someone to say this
Bulma got that boy eating lobster and steak he don’t want no damn bug man
Lmao true
Lobsters are technically bugs though...
@@karlsnod2784 water bug get a pass
@ thought so...
LETS GO MY GLORIOUS KING!! FLEX ON EM VEGETA! (Also this SS3 design is based on the original concept art of SS3)
imo SSJ3 having a somewhat different design depending on the user is a while lot cooler than all of them just basically being the exact same minus the hairline and bangs
@@dripsnake44 Vegeta's lowkey looks horrific in his mini form, hope near the end of the series we see adult SSJ3 vegeta in canon
Nah, this looks ass
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for a clean Vegeta W, and I think there is definitely a world where you make Vegeta's SSJ3 look a little more unique compared to Gotenks/Goku, but this design needed several more days in the oven.
@@pptemplar5840 just wait till we get adult SSJ3 Vegeta it's gotta be because he's a mini
@@monkeycrimson6087I'm not sure if that'll fix this. We've got both a canon and non canon designs for kids with ss3 and neither looked this bad. I just think it should've stayed as concept art.
MAN I GOT SPOILED BY RUclips THUMBNAIL MAN. I WAS SO ANGRY. HE DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO HIDE IT. HE JUST PUTS SSJ3 VEGETA AS A THUMBNAIL
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Join the stream 😂🤘
IDGAF ABOUT THE SPOL THIS HYPE ASF
SAME I COULDNT EVEN BE HAPPY WHEN IT HAPPENED GNG
I got spoiled by a damn sloplays community post, scree that guy
This makes the second only canonical win for using SSJ3 in a fight now. Right after SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ2 Future Trunks in the DBS Anime. Still Vegeta can make that claim now.
SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ2 Trunks
Y’all are annoying 😂 this why you can’t give Vegeta fans anything
@dtylor3680 it's just a factual statemen. And actually I find Goku fans waaaayyyyy more annoying. They glaze him for literally anything and can't acknowledge he gets a** pull power ups just bc he's the main character.
@@superzockertvyt9630 Okay to be fair I did forgot about that. Though that fight makes it weird for in the DBS manga Goku switched to SSG to defeat Future Trunks. So both versions are saying too different things. Though I will amend my statement. Also to other commenters Vegeta is NOT not my favorite character. So chill.
This stream was so hype at the start
DRAGON BANDZ Z
@@19Butterman98if you didn’t get gifted on the stream you were a BROKIEEEEE
@MichaelHorton-fx8pf BROKEYYYYYY 🫵🏽🫵🏽🫵🏽🫵🏽
35:10 Snakes eat exlusively meat, biscuits have flour in them which they cant digest
That’s good to know
Nice to know that snakes can't digest flour :)
Nice to know :)
NEVER TALK DOWN ON MY GLORIOUS KING EVER AGAIN! 😤😤😤
Prince
Careful,
I don't care if Vegeta transformed into SSJ3 as an kid but I be damned he finally got it
Vegeta finally getting a form Goku already got a few arcs back and Goku also happens to use it way better, a common trope but congrats for him getting a W👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Way better at using it might be a bit of a stretch. We only saw vegeta fight in for a couple minutes. But I'm glad he finally has it. Maybe we'll even get an ss3 vegito
Daima is after Buu Arc so technically he got it right after goku unlocked it
@@blackwhitestudios5953Show me when Goku ever used ss3 effectively without gasing out? Let alone getting a win with it. Sure seemed like Vegeta wasn't drained after using it for 3 minutes.... didn't even want the bug.
@SoloDoloToker The only time we've seen goku tired out from ss3 is when he fought kid buu. Every other time he was on a time limit on earth. Unless you count super, he knocked out trunks no problem but that's technically later. And again vegeta fought for like a minute against a guy who gave up. I'm happy for vegeta but we gotta be honest. Now if they come out and say the tamagamis are all stronger than buuhan then ill take back what I said
Feels like I have to clarify that Goku is way better at using these forms not Vegeta.
There was another battle that was more hype than this in the stream, shout out Nate and Butter, with Valorant as a sleeper
Happy birthday bro!!!!
Members squad waiting patiently for the uncut
Vegeta was getting dunked on ever since he joined along, he deserved this, not only showing that he in fact does have SSJ3, but also earned Super Saiyan 3 it's first win (in canon), I hope we see him use SSJ3 more in the future
3's useless unless you know it can trivialize the fight, so it not getting much use makes sense.
@@AdderMoray Before they could master the form and decrease its stamina drain, we were introduced to SSG, unfortunately making ssj3 obsolete, considering it's goku and vegeta's strongest forms in Daima, let's hope for the best
They updated the SSJ3 knock knock meme 😂
@Animefan_7153-0 Goku had 4 years of peace to "master" the form. If it was a thing that could be done, it would have been. Like USSJ1 and 2, it's an inherently flawed form. Just in a far more useful way since it's a legitimate, if temporary, all-around boost.
@AdderMoray It took Goku 4 years to master ssj1, he obtained it on namek, 3 years passed in training for the androids, and the 4th year in tbe time chamber, ssj3 would naturally take more than 4 years to master, and you can't say he had more than 4 years due to unlocking it sometime in the 7 year timeskip because in the afterlife he wasn't even aware of the drain, as far as he knew the form was already perfected
Vegeta finally gets 2 W's on his 21 lose streak 😂
When u think about it vegeta never lost on a fight between goku and Goku never used ssj3 so now that argument is thrown of the bag and also vegeta is being smart as hell proves he is simply limited by pride
@@durgalakshmig2540technically yes but even more technically the first time they fought Vegetas intent was to kill Goku and he couldn’t, Goku on the other hand wanted to spare him if possible and he did.
He was never able to prove superiority above Goku as Goku is always literally 1 step ahead, it’s just how he’s written… I get your point tho
Man when he went Super Saiyan 3 I about lost my shit and what makes it even better is its the original hair design
“Vegeta got Super Saiyan 3”.😂😂😂as a Goku fan I don’t even feel right saying that but W Vegeta. 🔥🔥🔥
Best Vegeta Has been in a LONG time. Straight W no bs
The most sauce hes had since punching Broly through 6 mountains
@Babylauncher3000 yeah.
@@Babylauncher3000 Vegeta's ssj transformation in that movie was awesome
The "he knew how to go ssj3 he just didnt want to because the form was ass" theories were right?? 😭
Umm if your talking about in Super that's a hard yes. In Z no. Diama is in between Z and super which makes sense. If dude can go SSB of course he can go SS3 it's the same as him never using the regular SSG till the Broly fight.
@matthewferguson2306 daima is a alternate timeline. It can't take place before super
@schrodingersdog5512 Look it up. A simple google search will tell you it takes place in the year 775, which is one year after Buu Saga and 3 years before super. They also gave a reference from Super in Diama by acknowledgment of going to Universe 7 on their way to get Dende. The world being called Universe 7 is from super, so yes, they are connected, and Diama is cannon.
@@schrodingersdog5512 I’m pretty sure it’s canon to db, super, and z timeline
@@schrodingersdog5512 fun fact: it can, the ONLY contradiction is shin and kibito, as all other things have been explained, but the show hasn't ended yet, so even that can be changed
Vegeta secures his first DUB with style, vegeta fans get this one.
(Also this is the first dub ssj3 ever got!!)
Edit: for YOU ANNOYING VEGETA FANS, I MEAN IN THE SERIES OF DAIMA, I THINK ANYONE WITH A BRAIN KNOWS VEGETA WON FIGHTS OTHER THAN THIS. YOUR TRYING TO SOUND SMART WHEN YOUR JS DEFENDING AGAINST THIN AIR.
And the first cannon ssj3 dub
I think we can all agree this is FAR from his first dub but a dub nonetheless…
Exactly @@mr.beetroot2219
@@mr.beetroot2219he meant a dub with ssj3 for vegeta
First dub? so Qui,Dodoria,Zarbon,jiece, #19,Pui pui werent dubs? even cell could be counted as a dub because he won the fight just decided not to finish him. Plus Goku in their first fight.
fun fact: kuu means ''ass'' in portuguese (it's ''cu'' but they're read the same way) which is ironic considering duu is basically poop
The number of subs that got given in this stream was crazy 😭
31:11 It makes the most sense for Vegeta to get it naturally. Vegeta is a prodigy. Don’t forget he unlocked God Ki through training and without a ritual.
goku got it naturally too he had to train for it, gotenks kinda just spawned it tho 😂.
Vegeta did the ritual off screen
@@unrecognizably but Goku was dead so he had unlimited stamina and energy, Vegeta unlocked it with his own efforts no special requirements
@ well thats not true. we seen goku get tired in otherworld while being dead.
@@unrecognizably if you are talking about during his time dead in the saiyan saga thats only because he was slowly adjusting to king kai's planet's gravity, and even so he quickly recovered and kept going
10:31 that’s Arale’s way of greeting in the Dr.Slump comics that’s so sneaky of Akira
I’m so glad toriyama didn’t forget about Water Vegeta
Vegeta said: well actually🤓 snakes don’t eat biscuits
Duu and Kuu handled that shit like real Homies. i love it
This is why Toriyama is the GOAT, he went out giving Vegeta a GLORIOUS W 🐉🙏 RIP
wasnt he the one shitting on vegeta for years . stop the glaze
We got ssj3 vegeta before gta 6
Nah, we gotta celebrate this day as Vegeta Day. This will go down as one of Vegeta's greatest victories ever 🔥🔥🔥
STREETS BEEN WAITING ON THIS
I got spoiled from the official Dragon Ball Daima page 😭
Vegeta started ballin and realized his girl was on the sideline
Katatz is the name of the Nameless Namekian's Dad, and Piccolo by this point is that Nameless Namekian since he fused back with Kami so Katatz is his dad
we already knew this. the only new info there was that Katatz was born on the Demon Realm
They broke 3 memes in 1 Episode
Ssj3 vegeta is real
Vegeta getting a W
Ssj3 finnaly getting a W
Katatz/Katas being The Nameless Namekian's dad/Piccolo's dad is old news. Like, i wanna say decades old news at this point
1:45 We've known about Katas forever.
Katattsu in the Manga if you wanna google it, he was the father of the 'nameless namekian' that split into Kami and Piccolo... so Technically Piccolo's grandfather, since he was born of King Piccolo.
Edit: Even the Abridged version's Guru mentions 'the son of Katas'
I was waiting for his reaction to this. It didn’t disappoint
So that is why we were getting so much SSJ3 love in dokkan
Technically Ichiro the Snake has never eaten the Biscuits yet so yes Vegeta was correct in a way even if the snake had 3 biscuits
Carthu in shambles right now LMAO
Toriyama finally gave that Vegeta W after all these years. This man’s legendary stories truly lives on.
The old Namek.. He’s singing the theme for dragon ball just a bad cadence
Good to see you didn’t get fully spoiled on Super Saiyan 3, I got unlucky and opened up twitter in the morning to see SSJ3 Vegeta before the episode even dropped
I was hyped to see your reaction on those 2 episodes, they are FIRE
We’ve known about Katatz since the Namek Saga at least. Guru called Piccolo Daimao / Kami / Nameless Namekian “the Son of Katatz” - though the dub may have called him Kattas.
Is it me or does he look like Sonic the hedgehog right now? Still loved it, glad he got the win and they legit surprised me
At this point I believe Majin buu was made from the essence of the Kraken. 😂
I just realized that Arinsu is gonna neglect Majin Kuu and he’s gonna feel angry and maybe absorb Majin Duu to impress her but maybe become unhinged into a menace Majin named Majin Fuu
Nah it's gonna be a Star Wars reference and be Majin DuuKuu
"Arinsu" is such a baddie also my "Goat" got a w
Bruh the frame where vegeta catches him by the shoulder will be a meme I promise you 😂😂😂😂😂
SSJ3 Goku was in 1994
We waited EXACTLY 30 YEARS FOR VEGETA!!!
We already knew piccolo was the son of katatz
We only knew "katatz" by his other name which is demon King piccolo and NOT BY Katatz
18:20 hell yeah
That's what happens when you give the Animators 2 years of production time
I haven't seen a singular episode of daima so every notification of this man is a spoiler in some way shape or form lmfao
Never thought I'd see this day
Goku and Gotenks just got put on fraud watch for ssj3.
Mama Gine... Mama Sage...stay back!
Because now it's... BLOOD LINE RULES!!!
The "OGK" is here, original glorious king!
Vegeta beat the allegations before the new year 😂
NGL, after your closing statement, for then your editor to make THAT your thumbnail is crazy.
Just glad I got to see my favorite dragon ball get a canon victory
Vegeta went SS3, yet the most unbelievable part is that a snake can’t eat a biscuit
I love this so much
the only reason why vegeta got ssj3 and won is because he didn't hit the thumb pose
was screaming ''SUPER SAIYAN 3 VEGETA!?'' as soon as I saw it 😭
I love how ssj3 vegeta's hair goes straight up and not down like gokus
1:25 yes picolo we see the fit 😂😂
7:20 Imma call it, Lil Saibaman has a transformation and when he said 'it was too dangerous to continue' he meant he would have probably destroyed the dragonball and area in the fight... not that he'd lose.
Tbh I think he’ll just fuse with Duu and they’ll be the ultimate Majin with brains and strength
NGL I got spoiled by YOU SAGE from your thumbnail LOL 😅😂
The katatz guy was mentioned before. He was the nameless namekian’s dad (aka the one that split into demon king piccolo) and since piccolo is a reincarnation, it’s technically his dad too
I see Daima as a GT replacement more than anything else.
It’s crazy that the first w super saiyan 3 ever gets is with vegeta and not goku lmao 🤣
Wait a minute. This was before Daima, like just before. Didn't someone say Vegeta was going SSJ3, but we didn't listen? I know someone did.
That’s a pretty easy prediction though.
@CapturedHolden that no one cared about until now.
I love how I go to watch the ep this morning and see a video on ssg3 showing up and I'm like "damm that's some good fanart"
People forget that guru told krillin before he unlocked his potential that piccolo/kami is the child of kataz in the namek saga
Vegeta said, "I AM THE HYPE"
proceeds to turn SSJ3 and woops tamagami no.2
Can’t believe I fell asleep right before I got to see his reaction😭😭
So mad that I got spoiled on this earlier. It was from a dude I don't even watch 😡
That's tuff
same ion be seein nun from dbtubers until a huge spoiler happens
1:48 dbz fans already know this fact from the frieza saga
But neva knowing katas (and probably by extension guru) is new
*Piccolo* "What are you guys lookin' at me for!?"
You know Piccolo... you know.
Daima is poppin off, SSJ3 Vegeta is hype as hell gang. But I'm not gonna lie, I may sound delusional....but I don't give a fuck, I NEED SSJ4 PRONTO
@LeeBro87 and once again I reiterate, do not give a fuck 😂
@LeeBro87 I'd be lying if I didn't think it'd still be cool
yall aint gettin ssj4😭🙏🏿
@zenkai182 I'll continue to be wishful, thank you 😭🙏🏾
Lol this is my first time watchin your Daima reactions, and hearin you call it Dragon Ball Dalila threw me off since Dalila is my actual name lol
1:50 Everyone knows the unnamed namekian (Piccolo) was the son of Katas. Even TFS referenced it in their abridged when Krillin met Super Kame Guru.
This was the first time since one piece going on break that I deadass got loud and lit seeing some anime
I ended up getting a sub from that stream for episode 12 haha
What are you doing to that mic?
My glorious king FINALLY got respect🐐🐐🐐🐐🔥🔥☝🏿☝🏿☝🏿
You coulda told me a year ago vegeta would go super sayain 3 and get a crazy dub with it and i wouldnt have believed you
VEGETA STOCKS ARE UP!!! I PRAYED FOR TIMES LIKE THIS
Vegeta really was about to turn his tv off
The band 4 band on this stream was generational
I can't wait to hear english dub of Daima, especially this episode.
I personally just wished past DB content just didn't try so much to deny the existence of ssj3 so when it actually got retconned(people look at this word so negatively it's literally fine as long as it's cool) because now we only have head canon/interpretation to go off of for the plots hole surrounding this.
Toriyama: Vegeta won’t win a fight until the day I die!
First Ssj3 win and is it just me or the last vegeta punch looked like a dragon fist
The n’cha and the way the main kuu ran off afterwards was a reference to arale she was in super