Math pretty much summed up Mooks WHOLE argument with that statement “We’ve become popular enough to appeal to people who know nothing about the streets “ 🔥🔥🔥
Bro it’s simple as black and white. Rap and Wrestling. The only difference is One knows how to politic better than the other. Both or convincing brands of entertainment but will battle rap be the same if they try to appeal to mainstream America? Remember mainstream is basically crossing over/selling out. Are battle rap fans ready for that? One more thing the streets and mainstream will never understand each other.
Joseph Arroyo that’s a facts we don’t know any of these niggas so I wanna be entertained and get my moneys worth idc if they lived that life or not we not there for that when it’s all said and done ima go home wake up go to work and come back home living a normal life with my girlfriend/family feel me lol
mook is trying to say something else. So imagine you know a hard street gangster and one day u see him getting dropped by weak dude . from then on u wont believe he is a gangster . thats what mook means from his standpoint
EST94 again the difference between rapping and real life WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN WHAT YOU RAP ABOUT BECOMES REAL DO YOU REACT LIKE YOU DO IN YOUR RAPS OR DO YOU DO WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR RAPS IF YOU A KILLER IN YA RAPS AND A TOUGH GUY POINT BANK DONT TALK IT IT YOU AINT WILLING YO DO IT WALK IT LIKE YOU TALK IT
Y’all do know that dot mob retaliated as well and caught math in a clothing store. Math didn’t say that story wasn’t true so it must be, either way they’re grown with kids that shit dead.
He also said battle rap is not about rap anymore it's about who is the most wanna be tough guy. He tried to act hard in numerous battles lol he a hypocrite
When Battle Rap Was Underground, It Was About Authenticity. However Battle Rap Has Hit A Stage Of Commercialism Where Money Doesn't Care About What's Real, It's About What's Entertaining.
Peace to you all for keeping the battle Rap art alive. My thing is this, back in the late 70s and early 80's when we where battling on different blocks, or met at Union Square... we literally stood on our "Square"" and when the beef came we all responded accordingly. We actually walked the walk and talked the talk. With no paycheck, but for the love of the culture.This is how real street cred became mainstream throughout the 5 boros. Today most Battle Rappers are in it for shock value along with the paycheck, fame, etc. I believe the culture will come full circle and a lot of rappers that aren't genuine will fall off, and the realness of the art form will persevere. Peace...! One Love.
Crafty what if I told you that there was enough real street dudes to make battle rap both real and lyrical. And the ones that are actually ON are gay. Hmm?
I mean what do you expect everything is filmed , there’s crowds of regular people and now there’s real money involved… it’s not 2003 when it actually was real…
This the same weirdo nigga that interrupted Calico in battle when he brought up a misdemeanor mook situation🤣.These battle/"street" rappers soft & sensitive.
Somebodys Son math aint worried about battling tat roc either he said that i know but i doubt if hes salty he got his own lane until somebody try to copy him.... I see that coming in da future
+Antjuan Jenkins Exactly Mook ass ain't street either remember Serious Jones brought out that the Nigguh went to Private School and played Ball lol, not that Private School don't produce Street Nigguhz ijs the dude is a Dope Emcee.
Mook ain’t claiming to be a super gangsta. He talkin bout basic, regular, street/be a man shit. He ain’t a gangsta.. but he ain’t a whole bitch on a stage claiming to be mister super doopa gangsta.
@@treyocho1997 he ain't say that tho u did so u gay worried about grown me being gay peep the small shit he talking about niggas kicking it u talking about what another man like dog u gay come on out see where ur mind at only gay niggas worry about other men sexual desires 🤔
@@turpraww1841 how if a nigga a whore it need to be address that like u and a few niggas u fuck with be busting y'all gun wen it's time to but one nigga always loud talking about I do this I do that I put in work in wen shit jumps off life or death situations y'all ain't got it with y'all but he does and it goes down and he runs with the 30 and one of y'all get hit and he could of got off first seen it coming and he pulled that shit on y'all but the way he talked in faked carried himself had y'all thinking he bout it but he folded under pressure never even Ben in no type shit like that u & the rest not going talk about that shit and question it so y'all going be gay for talking about the shit that nigga just pulled whole time he out here 🐺 ing pump faking I was taught don't help a man who ain't going help his self then the shit tay roc said after it went down in the interviews and said he wasn't trying fight a particular person y'all new niggas today in today's world ain't right this new generation fucked up so they gotta be gay because of they opinion and how they feel about a man who disrespectful and long over due from getting tha shit beat outta him u gotta make sense wen u talking to me Holmes I'm in my 30s coming straight outta southeast DC where it's really goes down down
Ur missing the point. The point is fight broke out inspite of the fact tht it’s rap n niggas just tlkn... but Tay rock ain’t do shit for his mans n didn’t even fight. Simple period . It ain’t no dodging corners
NAS wtf fuck are u tlkn bout. Cal n murda not even cool like tht. N if he swung for murda how much more rock should swing for Brizz when they are mad close as friends. U fuckin Bozo stop txtn me. U say wat ur saying is like saying Fuck Geechi gotta first round against Rock... cause the culture knows rock supposed to fight not run or stand by the door
Mook not as soft as this community tried to make him out to be because of what supposedly happen in the Math situation because Math clearly respects him.
Michael Johnson mook went to catholic high school and graduated from college. That’s definitely not a bad thing but idk why he portrays the gangster persona
@@shaquilleanderson1887 I agree with you it's great that he is a college graduate. And he should promote getting your education. But he prefers to play the typical street dude.
One of the most historical rap battles happened when Kool Moe Dee dissed Busy Bee, and KMD wasnt a street dude in terms of committing crime like that. The reason why rappers embellish crimes in their raps is this idea that because rap 'came from the streets' it means the lyrics should be about selling drugs, committing murder and other self destructive shit. And that's not the truth, but what keeps being said. The first rap was about partying (and or conscious rap) and was a way for street kids to _get away_ from all the violence, not making raps about it. The first battles were about who can rock the party better, not gun bars or drug slinging.
Busy B wasn't street either lol. Bad comparison kmd was a rapper and busy b was a hype man aka crowd mover not really a rapper but had some raps. If you said Ice cube and DR Dre who both are studio gangsters then I get it.
@@thedarksideoftheforce6658 Naw, you dont get it. My point was rap didnt start off about talking about how many crimes you committed, not even when it comes to battling. So Busy B not being street helps make my point.
TollFree999 Best comment on this video so far. And the truth of it is that Art in the truest existential sense, meaning the expression of human beings conscious to their Source, is upward spiraling and an inspiration to life evolving. As a lifelong HipHop listener who started in the 80's, I recall fun and dance being the prime motivator. Along the way though, a formulaic trend took hold and 'street tough gangster' became the profit, the premise, and the plot.... Now I grew up in Cali, I know this exists, and many rappers are 'bout that life'. I know that there has been healing and upliftment by honest expression and rapping about real life too... Many Men have found a path out of that life through music. Amen. But...... now, the music, the trend, it's been well into glamorizing pathways to suffering, misery, and death. When this vision became so dominant that Life starts imitating art and gangs of kids, or boys not yet men, brandish an arsenal of guns and rap about killing 'opps'.... you recognize that the perception of many minds is being shaped to fit a coffins worth of living, and a world full of death. It's not only sucking the life from the art, but literally leading to peoples lives being extinguished and erased from the Earth, along with many broken hearts and angry minds left to show for it.... I appreciate the grind and hustle of every Man, lord knows I've had my days, but something has gone terribly wrong in HipHop, and the music industry, and entertainment on the whole, and I am in no way ashamed or afraid to say so. When it's making people stupid and dumber after exposure, it's not Art.
"From battle rap see I'm sorta detached cause all the liars get called fire and we ignoring the facts/And Beasley and Smack don't give a fuck long as them numbers come back"-Verb Verb summed up in 2 lines what it took Mook 10 mins. to spit out TIME!
@@madhands9887 I agree no one has facts/proof on that, but even a nigga having everyone believing it, is caused for a fade. If we talking "street rules" but battle rap you can say anything
In my experience from following battle rap over the years I feel like the battle rap fans are some of the coolest people I encountered. It be a couple of these battlers who be on the weird shit IN MY OPINION
BFRANK DAKING Mook like a lot of other old niccas. If yu ain’t lived the street life yu shouldn’t be rapping. The dumbest ideology I’ve ever herd when it comes to rap
Nathaniel Caesar why didn’t he say this about DNA and/or Clips in past situations. They talk about tough guy shit in their raps and both were in confrontations and didn’t do shit. Because it was no reason to because HE himself hadn’t done anything either.
Battle rap is a profession now niggas fighting is gonna mess up they livelihood, but a real bmore nigga would've been scrapping regardless roc is not from bmore he is from Edgewood MD
The Growth is Beautiful thing real talk and i can say that because i been here from the very start and to see where the original's are at in 2020 all i see is mad growth #realfans
As fans we care about the art. The believability is in the cadence and delivery not you having a real felony on your records. The culture needs to fall in love with building their battle rap/ personal brands and not street reputation.
Daniel Lewis as fans you can appreciate art but you should also appreciate authenticity. I like jet li and Jackie Chan movies because what they doing in the movie they could easily do in real life. When you have Keanu Reeves doing karate in John wick I don’t respect It the same because I could personally Probably whoop his ass. It’s not real, it’s just entertainment at that point. If that’s your not your reality Then rap about something else. Not guns and violence you know nothing about and drugs you never sold. It’s just not good entertainment. If I want to hear that I’d listen to Jeezy or Styles P, because it’s art and it’s entertainment but it’s authentic. It’s crazy what we accept these days.
Mook stfu it’s the same way with rap music we know that these niggas not dealers or killers we just like to hear the bars n paint the picture ourselves either we as the listener either relate to that situation or know somebody that been thru that before
@@kodakoda1580 that would be true if these niggas was NOT trying to present themselves like they 100% thorough when they aint. You are basically saying "oh they get the pass because they talk slick and I can picture that in my head."
INFINITYBEAT 039 but Eminem also balances it with talking about personal life shit, he does get pretty personal in his music. And ALOT of what he talks about actually happened obviously his crazy murder shit Ofcourse that ain’t true.
Mook got a lot of nerve talkin bout Tay Roc while being on the show of and sitting in front of the dude that Pistol whipped him and gave him staples in his head.... Mook been a goofy just like Rex. They should leave the DotMobb and start the Goof Troop.
What their biggest problem is they don't understand this is moving into the the entertainment part of things now because of more money coming into play so the more crazier unbelievable bars that will excite the crowd the more these battle will feed into basically becoming fantasy battle rap
I love Mook and can appreciate his energy. BUT, this was literally the Least Effective Conversation I've seen in a Podcast... lol Note to Everyone Watching: WHEN HAVING A SOCRATIC SEMINAR, LET EVERYONE HAVE A TURN TO TALK. 😓😓😬😬😂😂😂😂
I think there are people like me who are not street socalled but i do rap and enjoy the bars. But i do agree that hip hop is about being true to yourself.
To be 100, a fan don't care about "personal" bars as long as that sound fly af. Why? Don't nobody know nobody personal life of no ones personal stuff unless it was on CNN or worldstar.
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Math pretty much summed up Mooks WHOLE argument with that statement “We’ve become popular enough to appeal to people who know nothing about the streets “ 🔥🔥🔥
When industry rappers get exposed they career is over.
Battle rap COMMUNUTY embrace weirdos and PUNKS like roc
#Facts
He actually summed up modern hip hop
Just because you never been there doesn't mean you don't know you might not no first hand but you can still know
As he was saying that. I was reading your comment...crazy
We have become popular enough to appeal to people who know nothing about the streets!!!!! That was a powerful statement
I just caught that!!! That was Deep!!!
Bro it’s simple as black and white. Rap and Wrestling. The only difference is One knows how to politic better than the other. Both or convincing brands of entertainment but will battle rap be the same if they try to appeal to mainstream America? Remember mainstream is basically crossing over/selling out. Are battle rap fans ready for that? One more thing the streets and mainstream will never understand each other.
The Jokerr Damn you right. Didn’t know Jada was about to battle tho.
@our hair defies gravity so can we lol facts
our hair defies gravity so can we to bad I didn’t ask for your opinion 🤷🏾♂️.
I don’t believe none of y’all I’m here for the raps , we don’t know y’all personally so it don’t matter
THIS SHOULD BE THE VIRAL COMMENT WITH 2 MILLION LIKES AND REPLIES... In my Mook voice, "I don't care!"
Preach
Seriously, f all this drama....just rap
KevRaww facts
Facts this shit is entertainment
Mook been around Busta too long, he has no inside voice.
I agree
im pretty sure that resembles all New York niggas😂😂😂
Lmaooo
Im cryin 😭
He never really did tho lol
I listen to battle rap for bars IDC if they really about it lol. Word play schemes metaphors performance. I'm here to be entertained not convinced.
Joseph Arroyo that’s a facts we don’t know any of these niggas so I wanna be entertained and get my moneys worth idc if they lived that life or not we not there for that when it’s all said and done ima go home wake up go to work and come back home living a normal life with my girlfriend/family feel me lol
Nah the fake shit is cheesy
lmao@Pete Poteet remember though rap came from being authentic, i need to see that when i listen to someone
mook is trying to say something else. So imagine you know a hard street gangster and one day u see him getting dropped by weak dude . from then on u wont believe he is a gangster . thats what mook means from his standpoint
Joseph Arroyo Nah.
Can you imagine mook seeing a therapist?
Therapist: So tod...
Mook: YO LISTEN..... CHILL OUT....
😂😂😭
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmaooo
Mook: YO, CHECK IT OUT, HOLD UP...
😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
lolol Math wild "he was smoking by the door" with the half smile.
Mook and ave should of teamed up on the two on twos the drunken masters 😭😭😭
shawn smith most Fire comment of the day 🔥
THE DRUNKEN MASTERS 💀💀💀💀💀
Naw mook a totally different drunk than Ave. Ave a goofy cornball when he drink 😭🤦🏾♂️ that’s facts
shawn smith 😂😂😂
SHOULD HAVE. NOT SHOULD OF, NIGA.
Mook is sweating bullets having a normal conversation lol. He's in tuned.
It’s dat Henney😂
@toptier sagat u dont do coke and talk for 3 hours without a refill
He’s in tuned?
I’m mad nobody offered him a napkin lol
@@eastxsidexswagg and high blood pressure
None of y’all did . Y’all done killed 100 dudes sold a million bricks had 1000 fights
And won every one of those fights
EST94 again the difference between rapping and real life WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN WHAT YOU RAP ABOUT BECOMES REAL DO YOU REACT LIKE YOU DO IN YOUR RAPS OR DO YOU DO WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR RAPS
IF YOU A KILLER IN YA RAPS AND A TOUGH GUY POINT BANK DONT TALK IT IT YOU AINT WILLING YO DO IT
WALK IT LIKE YOU TALK IT
@@Rock215man facts
@@TheRealUsualSuspects And killed every enemy and never had to serve a murder charge.
Exactly but somehow got a clean mufucking record 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My neighbors thought someone was arguing in my apartment, it was just mook screaming through the damn phone smh.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
❗
😭😭😂😂😂
IF MOOK AINT SHOUTING IN SOMEONES FACE, HE AINT HAPPY WITH LIFE
😭😭😭
just like your CAPS! lol
EVERYDAY RICH Yo I need to see a interview with him and Ave. Ave be wild loud talking his shit.
EVERYDAY RICH been around dame too much 🤣🤣🤣
Dude drinks and rants
I understand everything mook saying however he sitting in a room with a man who pistol whipped him so he being hypocritical
Math didn’t hit Mook with the gun lol
@@keepinitraw8403 "I'm not Mook." T Rex said after his Aye Verb battle. Why?
Hahahalololol....only Katz who been watching this shyt since the beginning know "that" history...funny shyt
Cause mook is super soft... how u tuff..after bein pussy for20 yrs...
Y’all do know that dot mob retaliated as well and caught math in a clothing store. Math didn’t say that story wasn’t true so it must be, either way they’re grown with kids that shit dead.
I love the passion Mook has when he wants to get his point across. It’s part of what made him but he demands attention when he has something to say.
Mook has a very good point, with less yelling hes actually very well spoken.
He said “I hate violence in battle rap”...
Same video “I like gang influence in battle rap”
HHWWHAT!!! (Lil Jon voice)
Steven Wayne lol that’s not the same though...
Cringeworthy.
He also said battle rap is not about rap anymore it's about who is the most wanna be tough guy. He tried to act hard in numerous battles lol he a hypocrite
Sounded like a straight clown
Facts!!! People saying it's not the same, it's parallel. 🤦🏿♂️ Bozo's
Mooks talks like he battling 😂😭😂
🤣🤣😂😂
😂
Mook is the fakest of them all
@@skrilladon5815 preach
🤣😁🤣😁🤣😁🤣🤣😁😁🤣😁🤣😁
Mook: “ BUT LISTEN TO THIS THO “
No one:
Mook: “ LOOK BUT LISTEN THO “
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 facts
BUT NO NO NOOO NOOOO LISTEN TO ME
My nigga mook..😭😭😭😭😭💯💯
Jay Smith Listen to meeeeee *Headice voice*
When Battle Rap Was Underground, It Was About Authenticity. However Battle Rap Has Hit A Stage Of Commercialism Where Money Doesn't Care About What's Real, It's About What's Entertaining.
I DONT BELIEVE ANY OF THEM EITHER ! 😂😂 I’m jus here for the BARS 💯💯
What's funny is I remember battle rappers accusing mook of rapping about things he never did
Serious Jones said it in the battle
Facts
He can't beat roc orc k shine
@@thomaslawson1994 Mook just 30d Roc😂😂😂
@@thomaslawson1994 you know he just totally SMASHED roc right ?? And K Shine is his boy ?
Peace to you all for keeping the battle Rap art alive. My thing is this, back in the late 70s and early 80's when we where battling on different blocks, or met at Union Square... we literally stood on our "Square"" and when the beef came we all responded accordingly. We actually walked the walk and talked the talk. With no paycheck, but for the love of the culture.This is how real street cred became mainstream throughout the 5 boros. Today most Battle Rappers are in it for shock value along with the paycheck, fame, etc. I believe the culture will come full circle and a lot of rappers that aren't genuine will fall off, and the realness of the art form will persevere. Peace...! One Love.
90% of these dudes regular dudes w/jobs and families....not the serial killers they claim to be...we all know it...get over it, it’s entertainment!
Empire Lifts Back you really think someone like math Hoffa has a real job or loaded lux
Crafty what if I told you that there was enough real street dudes to make battle rap both real and lyrical. And the ones that are actually ON are gay. Hmm?
I mean what do you expect everything is filmed , there’s crowds of regular people and now there’s real money involved… it’s not 2003 when it actually was real…
Why doesn’t mook let anyone speak. Plus he’s having extremely difficult tyme making a simple point
Damon SHEKHEM he’s inarticulate that’s why he’s takes forever to make a semblance of a point
No one wanna hear some unknown nigga talk. we here to hear mook.
Im not a Roc fan, but they like his passion and how serious he takes the sport when rapping...
You mean yelling? Lost 80% of his battles tho
Roc is ass
A weird ass battle rap fan screaming from the top of his lungs in the back of the room about... weird battle rap fans.. the irony LOL
Isn't that Cyssero?
thankyou
The title in itself is ironic.
@@Psikick4 Hell nah that ain't Cyss lmao
This the same weirdo nigga that interrupted Calico in battle when he brought up a misdemeanor mook situation🤣.These battle/"street" rappers soft & sensitive.
5:07 Close your eyes and you hear Arsonal
Family Feud nigga _whatttt_
Swear to god, facts!!!
Bro.....
Family Feud 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
WOW
Math smart lmao he dropped this cuz Roc skipped his expert opinion date 😂
Lol
Smart? Or salty?
Somebodys Son math aint worried about battling tat roc either he said that i know but i doubt if hes salty he got his own lane until somebody try to copy him.... I see that coming in da future
Mr. Ford's Copying? Math whole idea is a copy lol
LMAO. like AIGHT here then lil nigga
That’s like 90% of all battle rappers lol.
90 percent of all artist. Rap or not
Stage an a mic dnt make you real..for all we know you been threw waaay more than the artist you like
90% is a very high percentage I doubt it
KING CHARLES that’s facts a lot of they be capping
KING CHARLES walk it like you talk it
90% of rap is fabricated but when real shit happens man up
The funny thing about it Mook ain’t even a street dude
+Antjuan Jenkins Exactly Mook ass ain't street either remember Serious Jones brought out that the Nigguh went to Private School and played Ball lol, not that Private School don't produce Street Nigguhz ijs the dude is a Dope Emcee.
Mook went to private school. Mook's parents had a real good marriage. Ain't no such thing as halfway crooks.
Facts trying to act like he ain’t hating but he hating its show business dumb ass he mad cause tay roc hotter than him
Mook ain’t claiming to be a super gangsta. He talkin bout basic, regular, street/be a man shit. He ain’t a gangsta.. but he ain’t a whole bitch on a stage claiming to be mister super doopa gangsta.
@DaGoat oh and u do lol
Mook had some good points. By the way it's dope to see Math & Mook together just kicking it.
Them niggas gay
@@treyocho1997 he ain't say that tho u did so u gay worried about grown me being gay peep the small shit he talking about niggas kicking it u talking about what another man like dog u gay come on out see where ur mind at only gay niggas worry about other men sexual desires 🤔
@@tedbundy1503 but they are sitting around & talking bout other men which, in trey's defense, does seem a little gay lol
@@turpraww1841 how if a nigga a whore it need to be address that like u and a few niggas u fuck with be busting y'all gun wen it's time to but one nigga always loud talking about I do this I do that I put in work in wen shit jumps off life or death situations y'all ain't got it with y'all but he does and it goes down and he runs with the 30 and one of y'all get hit and he could of got off first seen it coming and he pulled that shit on y'all but the way he talked in faked carried himself had y'all thinking he bout it but he folded under pressure never even Ben in no type shit like that u & the rest not going talk about that shit and question it so y'all going be gay for talking about the shit that nigga just pulled whole time he out here 🐺 ing pump faking I was taught don't help a man who ain't going help his self then the shit tay roc said after it went down in the interviews and said he wasn't trying fight a particular person y'all new niggas today in today's world ain't right this new generation fucked up so they gotta be gay because of they opinion and how they feel about a man who disrespectful and long over due from getting tha shit beat outta him u gotta make sense wen u talking to me Holmes I'm in my 30s coming straight outta southeast DC where it's really goes down down
@@treyocho1997 this sucka stuff
I died when it ended with Cardan saying “Math I got one more question” then CUT
If everyone did what they rapped about in battle rap, there would be no more battle rappers. Even Jaz talkin about shooting ppl now lol
You must've not been listening.
Ur missing the point. The point is fight broke out inspite of the fact tht it’s rap n niggas just tlkn... but Tay rock ain’t do shit for his mans n didn’t even fight. Simple period . It ain’t no dodging corners
NAS so is calico idiot... n calico still faught
NAS wtf fuck are u tlkn bout. Cal n murda not even cool like tht. N if he swung for murda how much more rock should swing for Brizz when they are mad close as friends. U fuckin Bozo stop txtn me. U say wat ur saying is like saying Fuck Geechi gotta first round against Rock... cause the culture knows rock supposed to fight not run or stand by the door
This is why battle rap will NEVER be mainstream.
The fact of the matter is everyone is in hearing reach yet mook in there yelling just to be heard 🤔😂🤣
Mook is funny as hell but, he is speaking the truth
That nigga said “FOR WAT” 😂😂😂😂
About himself too. That's how he can speak about this with clarity.
Mook not as soft as this community tried to make him out to be because of what supposedly happen in the Math situation because Math clearly respects him.
Sincere Marks 😑 he respects him, like a Predator respect Pray
Denzel sausageton 😂 u gotta respect a nigga u smoking a black with back and forth
Mook is the KRS One of battle rap 😂😂 He sounds like a philosopher
He definitely has the nose
S/O to Math for this show...Murda Mook has been a dope guest...Very Entertaining 💯
Mook act like we forgot he got rocked by Joey jihad back in the day.
Mook talking like he lives the life he raps about. This dude always been soft & a clown. Rex the same
Mook fake he just said roc fake and someone pointed out rex soft and he tried to play it off
Stop fucking frauding that nvr happened only thing them niggas did is battle haddy was knocked out not mook
Michael Johnson mook went to catholic high school and graduated from college. That’s definitely not a bad thing but idk why he portrays the gangster persona
@@shaquilleanderson1887 I agree with you it's great that he is a college graduate. And he should promote getting your education. But he prefers to play the typical street dude.
One of the most historical rap battles happened when Kool Moe Dee dissed Busy Bee, and KMD wasnt a street dude in terms of committing crime like that.
The reason why rappers embellish crimes in their raps is this idea that because rap 'came from the streets' it means the lyrics should be about selling drugs, committing murder and other self destructive shit. And that's not the truth, but what keeps being said.
The first rap was about partying (and or conscious rap) and was a way for street kids to _get away_ from all the violence, not making raps about it. The first battles were about who can rock the party better, not gun bars or drug slinging.
Busy B wasn't street either lol. Bad comparison kmd was a rapper and busy b was a hype man aka crowd mover not really a rapper but had some raps. If you said Ice cube and DR Dre who both are studio gangsters then I get it.
@@thedarksideoftheforce6658 Naw, you dont get it. My point was rap didnt start off about talking about how many crimes you committed, not even when it comes to battling. So Busy B not being street helps make my point.
@205 Baby No, according to the founders themselves, it was created to keep them kids off the streets and inside having fun.
TollFree999 Best comment on this video so far. And the truth of it is that Art in the truest existential sense, meaning the expression of human beings conscious to their Source, is upward spiraling and an inspiration to life evolving. As a lifelong HipHop listener who started in the 80's, I recall fun and dance being the prime motivator. Along the way though, a formulaic trend took hold and 'street tough gangster' became the profit, the premise, and the plot.... Now I grew up in Cali, I know this exists, and many rappers are 'bout that life'. I know that there has been healing and upliftment by honest expression and rapping about real life too... Many Men have found a path out of that life through music. Amen. But...... now, the music, the trend, it's been well into glamorizing pathways to suffering, misery, and death. When this vision became so dominant that Life starts imitating art and gangs of kids, or boys not yet men, brandish an arsenal of guns and rap about killing 'opps'.... you recognize that the perception of many minds is being shaped to fit a coffins worth of living, and a world full of death. It's not only sucking the life from the art, but literally leading to peoples lives being extinguished and erased from the Earth, along with many broken hearts and angry minds left to show for it.... I appreciate the grind and hustle of every Man, lord knows I've had my days, but something has gone terribly wrong in HipHop, and the music industry, and entertainment on the whole, and I am in no way ashamed or afraid to say so. When it's making people stupid and dumber after exposure, it's not Art.
"From battle rap see I'm sorta detached cause all the liars get called fire and we ignoring the facts/And Beasley and Smack don't give a fuck long as them numbers come back"-Verb
Verb summed up in 2 lines what it took Mook 10 mins. to spit out
TIME!
This coming from the man sitting in front of the dude that pistol whipped him
Where u there??
@@madhands9887 I agree no one has facts/proof on that, but even a nigga having everyone believing it, is caused for a fade. If we talking "street rules" but battle rap you can say anything
I dont follow battle rap dont know about situation but im not ever gonna be in a room with a nigga that pistol whip me
Message!!!!!
Straight up fam dude is a clown I never believed the stuff Mook raps about either
In my experience from following battle rap over the years I feel like the battle rap fans are some of the coolest people I encountered. It be a couple of these battlers who be on the weird shit IN MY OPINION
Who else here after Roc hhir interview
Me
Had to watch this again after the Tay Roc interview.
Ceedubb 365 why wait after 7months is my?
yep. seek out a video after an interview gang gang gang here
@@otreacts5894 For the back & forth
This was GREAT.
Well.... I see a Roc vs Mook battle coming 😂😂😂😂😂
MacGames63 roc gone kill em
Roc will body mook
I agree!!
@@MistaRedroc lost
Mook ain’t never spoke like this UNTIL he actually threw a punch. 😒 that’s corny.
BFRANK DAKING ain't that what u supposed to do ? U not supposed to talk crazy if u not gon do nun
BFRANK DAKING Mook like a lot of other old niccas. If yu ain’t lived the street life yu shouldn’t be rapping. The dumbest ideology I’ve ever herd when it comes to rap
Nathaniel Caesar why didn’t he say this about DNA and/or Clips in past situations. They talk about tough guy shit in their raps and both were in confrontations and didn’t do shit. Because it was no reason to because HE himself hadn’t done anything either.
@@seandaniels3909 completely agree Mook was a well known herb back in the day
Nobody:
Not a mf soul:
MOOK: BUT LISTEN
Mook loves to hear hisself talk
Thanks for doing this for the culture we definitely need more of this
Why mook the only super loud one thou lol....but he def right about the Tay Roc situation
@@TopFamEnt tell that to Mook. He did all the speaking
U dont think 85 percent of the battle rappers dont do what they say ?!
Roc just smoked Rex and he will smoke u too
but he not real about rex talking tough, saying if roc says SMD he fucking roc up. and roc said it several times, and rex aint do shit
Battle rap is a profession now niggas fighting is gonna mess up they livelihood, but a real bmore nigga would've been scrapping regardless roc is not from bmore he is from Edgewood MD
what happened with tay roc?
Mook got the SWAMP Single SOLE TIMBS ON!!! 💀 🥾 🤦🏾♂️
Fact
Wow single soul mook🤣🤣🤣🤣
For real tho
DON DEMARCO!!!
Real talk I wear a size 10, I was told get a pair of 9.5 for timbs to fit you. 9.5 is still to big, should I get a size 9?
Tay rocks chain brought me here 2020
Finnessed Dotcom lmao
🤣🤣🤣
Mook talk like he battle rap... RESPECT!
It's hard to watch when everyone is talking over each other.
I said the same thing. I used to like this show but now all they do is yell and talk over each other
@The Slap man shut yo goofy ass up!
Why y’all not letting misfit talk tho?? Get your own show .. just to get the women’s point of view ... that would be interesting I think ..
justinbaptiste85 . just to get the women’s point of view ... that would be interesting
Math: Nah I’d rather hear Cardan talk for 2 hours straight
Ran Dom yea cardi cool lol
Mook timbs having a debatable with his feet
Yooo son dead ass they look kinda funny im like hol up it mite b this bud 😁😁😁😁😭😭
Real shit..he got goofed them shits fake😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
On gaaawd
Mook mad Rex took a beating. We all know you the school boy out of Dot Mob Mook. Rex told us 🥴
The best podcast right now. MY OPINION
The Growth is Beautiful thing real talk and i can say that because i been here from the very start and to see where the original's are at in 2020 all i see is mad growth #realfans
Its like when Geechi Battled John John and said "You only can stand here and talk to me like this and disguise it as rap" FIRE!!!
If mook made your head hurt after watching this! Raise your 👋🤦🏿♂️
Cardan read our comments. Dude quiet af!!! 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Man this is the best
Hay man suck some shiet
Mook: tayroc why u didn’t fight
Math: he was smoking by the door 😅
Didn't math pistol whip Mook?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@larryjones2178 Yup. Apparently gave him stitches, too. Therefore, explaining the bars against Mook about Math giving him staples.
As fans we care about the art. The believability is in the cadence and delivery not you having a real felony on your records. The culture needs to fall in love with building their battle rap/ personal brands and not street reputation.
Daniel Lewis as fans you can appreciate art but you should also appreciate authenticity. I like jet li and Jackie Chan movies because what they doing in the movie they could easily do in real life. When you have Keanu Reeves doing karate in John wick
I don’t respect It the same because I could personally Probably whoop his ass. It’s not real, it’s just entertainment at that point. If that’s your not your reality Then rap about something else. Not guns and violence you know nothing about and drugs you never sold. It’s just not good entertainment. If I want to hear that I’d listen to Jeezy or Styles P, because it’s art and it’s entertainment but it’s authentic. It’s crazy what we accept these days.
Roc gon be mad as hell when he sees this shit. He's gonna go straight to Twitter if he hasn't already 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He going to ALMOST fight!!
Roc should stay as far away from Twitter as possible right about now....
that's why Pat Stay is dope... he dont gotta rap extra about nuthin that he wouldn't do...
Nath Anter Same with Lux too....
@@TheYellowBrickRoadTV of course Lux, and Yung Ill too
We can talk shit alllll day! When shit hit the fan, now you gottah back up the shit you said PERIOD!
Everybody needs a mic. Especially mook. Will help quality of content
The title of this could go for the majority of rappers out there living and dead !
Shut up stop caping for Roc.
Mook too
Mook stfu it’s the same way with rap music we know that these niggas not dealers or killers we just like to hear the bars n paint the picture ourselves either we as the listener either relate to that situation or know somebody that been thru that before
@@kodakoda1580 that would be true if these niggas was NOT trying to present themselves like they 100% thorough when they aint. You are basically saying "oh they get the pass because they talk slick and I can picture that in my head."
Including Mook!
Why's Mook yelling?
Eminem also don't live what he rap bout but yoll give him a pass.
u dont know eminem personally
INFINITYBEAT 039 but Eminem also balances it with talking about personal life shit, he does get pretty personal in his music. And ALOT of what he talks about actually happened obviously his crazy murder shit Ofcourse that ain’t true.
Seriously I love to hear and see good artistry. It sounds good when the rap is the rappers reality because it becomes a spiritual testimony.
Battle rap make arguments better for those that listen. You ready for confrontation, facing off,and all that.
Absolute Silence on Earth Created by God:
Mook: YOOOOO CHILLL!!!! LISTENNNN!!! CHILLL!!!!!!
Mook got a lot of nerve talkin bout Tay Roc while being on the show of and sitting in front of the dude that Pistol whipped him and gave him staples in his head.... Mook been a goofy just like Rex. They should leave the DotMobb and start the Goof Troop.
Stfu
@@mjaydineroo797 lol. lemme guess u was that dude in the video wit Rex serving him shots... lol You'll be ah'ight
@imahelpfulperson I'm from harlem and niggas from lex av definitely jumped the shit outta math in Jan's clothing
yosimty bred Mook talks about that in his third round vs Iron Solomon. I see your point bruh.
F A C T S!!!!
Is this the same Mook that made his name talking about jewelry, drugs, cars and money that he obviously didn’t have IN BATTLES?!?! 😂😂🤦🏾♂️
Battles not talking about that in interviews
You missed the fucking point dick, tay roc talks about guns and street shit all the time but let his mans get whooped in front of him
What their biggest problem is they don't understand this is moving into the the entertainment part of things now because of more money coming into play so the more crazier unbelievable bars that will excite the crowd the more these battle will feed into basically becoming fantasy battle rap
Yo is it just me, but it looks like you jumped up 8k subs in only 20 some episodes?! Shout out to you Hoffa!!! You the muthafuckin man, fam.
Mook aint lying.
Is mook calling rock a sucka? Lol
I don’t understand how mook can be koo with someone who pistol whipped him
Chris Morgan they got bro back tho
@@BigWoe954 really?
You need to hear that Mook’s third round vs Iron Solomon explain it all and Math confirmed it in Unbias Untold Truth there goes your answer.
I watchin the video now n I just realized that 😭😭😭😭😭 I legit forgot
Who whipped him tho??
2:05 Tay Roc is going to get so mad, he's going to almost spazz out on Twitter.
They talking about contact in battle rap shouldn't happen, but mATH HOFFA always fighting somebody
These really good interviews
I love Mook and can appreciate his energy.
BUT, this was literally the Least Effective Conversation I've seen in a Podcast... lol
Note to Everyone Watching: WHEN HAVING A SOCRATIC SEMINAR, LET EVERYONE HAVE A TURN TO TALK.
😓😓😬😬😂😂😂😂
Mook is trying to deem Roc not worthy of battling him by talking isht on him. Roc will SMOKE Mook!
That's false
Dracula will 30 him after Lyt
The lie detector said........🤔 that is a lie.....🤯
U got life fucked up....Mook will body Roc
Mook the loudest in the room for no reason 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
buck fiddy
Loudest ones are the weakest ones 💯
Siah Lovell i dont know him to call him weak this aint personal for me ijs duke loud for no reason and its like 8 of them in ONE room
Empty vessels make the most noise
Just like Rex
Harlem niggaz always loud and all talk
Thats how i feel about these new rappers.
I think there are people like me who are not street socalled but i do rap and enjoy the bars. But i do agree that hip hop is about being true to yourself.
That’s Rs Mook, As a man I’m riding wit my team, fuck the battle rap at that moment
To be 100, a fan don't care about "personal" bars as long as that sound fly af. Why? Don't nobody know nobody personal life of no ones personal stuff unless it was on CNN or worldstar.
Just remember mook sitting in the same room with someone who pistol whipped him
😳
In this clip?
MATH YOU NEED REGULAR FANS ON HERE!!!!
And good point Knowledge people should be able to call people out in battle rap if they lying 🤥 another good one
That was real shit what Mook said
Naw..Mook talking to a guy who pistol whipped him..I don't believe anything Mook say
Kirkland Young yeah 😂
bob baker & what happened after that? If gonna tell story tell the whole story ..can’t pick & choose what you wanna tell ..so I’m listening 👂🏾 speak
Kirkland Young you not telling both sides of the story and you saying he got pistol whipped like it’s a fact and you don’t know lol smh 🤦🏾♂️
Kirkland Young my bad I responded to the wrong comment my guy lol
I’ve watch about a dozen of these videos. Question will they ever allow Ms Fit to Talk? 🤷🏻♂️ They stay cutting her off 😆
And talking over her. Sheesh
They don’t respect her sh!t😂
A bitch got no place in baber shop talk 🤷🏾♂️
@@dennisthemenace855 FACTS !!!!!!
@@dennisthemenace855 That is a barbershop true shit lol
Did anybody else see ol boy sip out of that cup he gave to Mook...? 👀
exactly
I came down in the comments just to see if anyone else caught it and was gonna say anything. He sipped it and then giggled
Michael Williams Suspect, fa sho fa sho.
@@Che89Lo how suspect? Like Adam and Steve suspect?
Battle rap is battle rap say what ever to win point blank period!
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