Joseph Kim is on different level in terms of market understanding and how effortlessly he is translating that info into simple words. Wow what a legend. Major missed info from him on this pod is what kind of games work in India.
I am pretty sure Joseph felt like it was not worth joining this discussion panel. Even when Nassir (Nasdaily) was a part of this podcast, one could easily observe the level of in depth knowledge, intellect and excellence in communication he had over other content creators. Same with other international individuals ( Including NRIs working in US ). And I think the flaw lies in our culture and education system, and I don't know how that's going to change, but if any core nationlist sees this, it is an initiative worth taking.
Joseph Kim has a vision and clarity of thoughts. He correctly mentioned all the nuances of gaming industry and rightly put forward where and what Indians are lacking at. Indeed a true visionary. Hats off to Nikhil, another master piece ❤
As a gaming entrepreneur I agree with most of the points addressed by Joseph Kim. Gaming as a career choice has to be appreciated at an high school level.
I gotta say Nikhil is an amazing person. Wonderful, humble, generous, and super charismatic. I (Joseph Kim- writing from my Gamedev YT channel) was and am super humbled to have been invited to such a great show. Just skimming through some of the comments here, I can see Nikhil has a really supportive community, and OMG Thug must be doing something really right to have such a huge and committed audience. Anyway, for some of you who wrote nice things about me... thank you guys. I'm used to doing super niche content for tiny audiences so it's cool to see so many people interested in gaming/gamedev content here.
I don't know anything about gaming, but have watched the full video and was very much impressed with your insights and the deep knowledge you have in the industry
@@gurubaxaniuday4884 beta padhai likhai kar jaake 😂 1 subscriber hai tera, koi career nahi hai isme. Padhai likhai kar, D Class ki naukri milegi tab apne gareeb ma baap ka Sahara ban paega
@@stealthoverflow kisne kha mai subscribers ke liye betha hun 😂 abe sale already qualified CA hun 1.4 lakhs mahine ki job hai aur stock market vgera se 2 lakh aur kma leta hun tujse bhut achi life hai
The fact that this long form podcast gets strong viewership shows that great content is always timeless. Also super helpful to see more Indians adopting to long form podcasts in the past year.
As a fulltime designer and a avid gamer with more than 12k hrs, i can proudly say this was one of the best podcasts for my domains. Thanks Nik! Would love to fill out that application.
Joshep Kim the founder of LiLa Games is the only person who started the company in US but soon after shifted to India for making games with Indian origin. Hatta off to this Mann ❤
Thank you Nikhil for this channel. I still can't believe all these videos are for free. These videos are informative and provide a very good knowledge and ideas to people like me who are clueless or trying to find direction on what we want to do in life. Thank you.
i loved the part where they talked abt designers and artists who're getting paid less then their work worth and would love to see changes in that area as an artist myself thanks for this it was very knowledgeable and helpful
I love how Nikhil's trying to demystify game design down to its essence, not only with engines, platforms, and scripting languages, but also with the larger storyboard, streaming economics and actually generate something that an aspiring enthusiast can take away.
The podcast appeared to be heavily focused on mobile gaming, neglecting the broader gaming landscape in India. While mobile gaming may have a larger audience, it should not be the sole focus here when discussing the gaming industry in the country. Some people including me or I should say those with extensive gaming experience, may have anticipated a more comprehensive exploration of the true essence of gaming, which was lacking in the podcast. And I respectfully disagree with your point here ,Nikhil, did not even delve into the perspectives and experiences of dedicated gamers or the deeper significance of gaming. However, it is worth noting that the guest speakers, especially Kim, provided valuable insights into the Indian gaming community that even Indian gaming community may not have been aware of. Their knowledge and intellect deserves nothing but admiration and respect.
Joseph really have Very clear Future Vision. 1:17:56 I'm Listening Joseph and already on mission. This thing very few people understand. That future is Indie games.
This podcast is unique and different from usual one's, there's a lot to learn about the gaming industry. Kudos to thug he has worked hard to get to this forum ❤
Because as a listed company he can allocate his own money, and also as a gaming company he knows how many issues he is facing due to lack of talent in this sector
Thank you Joseph❤…..Everything you talked about was backed with examples and reality. Got to learn a lot from others as well🎉 Nice one Nikhil…..keep up with the curiosity driving in. #S8ULOP
Being a gamer from my childhood - cant really relate to any game discussed in this episode - this is completely mobile oriented which makes sense in india
Animesh has a very myopic view, unsurprising considering his forte. But the others should have talked more about AA/AAA titles, Indies and the big forces in the game industry.EA and Ubisoft have had studios in India for longer than most of the panelists.
If you are a real gamer(not mobile) then I feel like we are born in the wrong country. Mobile gaming has picked up in India because we are poor and cannot afford to pay for a PC/console or games. F2p android games are played by the youth who don't earn or earn little money. And if you are smart enough, you will realize because the income inequality is increasing, those poor people will never do well enough to ever transition into fully paid PC/ console gamers. India seems forever be doomed to be a f2p mobile gaming nation with poor RPU.
I think one of the future episode should be on anime industry, there's a big chunk of Indian young audience who consume anime a lot, even people who are over 30 or close to that , as we have seen animes like Dragon Ball, we 've grown watching that
With no disrespect , the depth at which Joseph speaks, showcases the difference in intellect. Every hindsight he provides, is backed with accurate data and a strong explanation. If India could produce such intellects, be it any industry, we would be prospering at a rapid growth. Foundation plays a key role in developing a long term vision.
I am 19 and “Just out of learning intent I am kind of in a dilemma whether or not take Nikhil’s questing attitude to be an essential part of learning or should we be more grounded with people who are well established and might provide us an opportunity. What’s your thoughts guys.
Joseph Kim made a perceptive observation; it's true that India is struggling to produce skilled talent and is plagued by mediocrity. I've noticed that many of my friends chase after substantial salaries rather than pursuing their passion for their craft, which is quite disheartening.
I invested in Nazara technologies in October 23 listening the news that Nikhil has invested in it. It has fell big 28% until now. So, just for the comment reader’s here please don’t invest blindly without doing any research of your own, like the mistake i made here.
You've certainly made a mistake that a rookie makes. But it is stupid to blame Nikhil over it because the guy didn't fake. He is still invested in it. He has a strategy and you don't. That is the problem.
Bro, if you played any game developed by nazara you will never invest in them. Look at their graphics. Pathetic. How are they going to compete in global level with no good games.
After moving to US from India working in Tech, I noticed lot of small things & reason why we lack such expertise. In china if you see the education system teach lot of low level stuff like working with Kernel, Embedded basically systems programming. Whereas in India you want to go learn next big thing which is problematic cause you haven’t understand basics and you start working on abstraction & fancy things. This is the main problem, which translates to skill set, bubble up & it leads to not having kind of expertise industry expects. Translating to us not being able to produce quality software.
I think if he does a podcast with them they can't come to the podcast because nikhil always gives warning to investors that you should spend all your money into trading and all he guides investors a lot but on the other hand companies like upstox, groww, angel one are only doing business that's why I think that's why they don't come to podcast
Can relate to Mr Nitish. My niece (11 yrs old) and nephew ( 6 yrs) are so into Minecraft and Technogamerz. Also they like to watch their favourite streamers playing games. I think this is a substantial shift into the likes of today's younger generation compared to us millennials or even gen z.
@@shortcinematicuniverse895 I’ve been a loyal listener of Joe Rogan’s podcasts as well. It’s just that pulling of something like it in INDIA requires some grit! :)
@@shortcinematicuniverse895 have been a constant listener of Joe Rogan’s podcasts as well. It’s just that doing something like it in India requires some grit!
I believe this podcast delivered a summary of the current gaming industry so profoundly. It was an absolute joy to watch the whole podcast, and i applaud all the participants for contributing to nourish the Indian gaming industry. Keep up the good work and we are here to support you.
Half way through the podcast and I can see Joseph is awesome ,he understands gaming very good and always having different perspective ,I like the way of thinking that there is opportunity of making games in India ,everybody is running behind becoming a professional gamer or streamer but there is also a opportunity of making games
I want Nikhil to have a podcast where he asks "as a 20 year old who wants to do nothing or knows nothing what to do in his/her life what should be done??"
Sadly India Don't even own 1% of Actual Game Production Industry. Except Gambling games. We don't even have single Game Production Company with $Billion Valuations. But will Build 1. Literally I Just recently realized I'm the First Indian Game Developer Who Released "First Multiplayer PC Game" on steam. I'm not open for Investors because in Game Production Investor kills the project under pressure. Because Investor always hunting for profits and in Games Revenue don't come in before release. Which i Don't like. Allready rejected multiple Investments. And Krafton Incubation program is also Investment against equity. So I'm just open for Grant's/Supporters.
would love to see a podcast on animation industry, as the anime form of entertainment is booming all over the world and it is still hasn't started in india in the form of production
To the point where Thug was saying that the world is moving towards shorts/reels culture, there's a seperate fanbase for podcasts these days, everyone's coming up with long durations of detailed podcasts of upto 2 to 3 hrs that clock pretty good views
Comments section seems everyone is taking about thug and thug and didn't even understood the deepness of this podcast we will having so much issue and we nothing what the world has achieved in gaming that the development, eSports(that is only bgmi nothing else much), funding and support
yeah I'm so dissatisfied that they didn't talk elaboratively about future and progress of pc and console gaming in India and the criticality of piracy in India instead they talked so much about how mobile gaming is the future and blah blah and the juncture at which thug said that games will need to be fast pace and all that felt like utter bullshit to me for me games need to be good at 3 parameters which are story-gameplay-graphics , if a game stand strong on these then its most prolly gonna be great , sorry to say but we needed better insights than this , although I liked a lot of points spoken by joseph he talked about a lot of technical stuff too which were very penetrative .
Why don't you try next episode on Medical/Health Industry in India?.... You know... with some Influential Doctors/ Phama Entrepreneur/ Hospital Entrepreneurs. For people like us who wants to make something big in Medical Industry.
@Nikhil Kamath - What is the initiative that you have taken which you discussed at the end of this podcast ?? I could not see any link in the video description .. Where can I find it ??
Real salaries of Game Art and Design guys and for engineers it will be 20% more if you have good negotiation skill otherwise it will be same Small company: 2 LPA to 3.5 LPA (Entry level) Mid level company: 3.5 LPA to 6 LPA ( Entry level) Big company: 6-12 LPA (Entry level) Disclaimer: Mainly mid level and big companies not look for freshers. They want atleast 2 years of experience and by chance if they hire like once in a year for freshers then the opening will be so less like 2-6 person only.
Hello @Nikhil Kamath, thank you to you and all the great panelists in this video. I want to ask about the form/application/poll where we can submit our profiles to be considered as one of the 20 selected candidates. My partner has been playing games even before he could speak a word, in my honest opinion, and I know he has watched this video, but I want to push him further to pursue his dream of cracking a career in gaming. I am off Instagram, but if you could let me know here where I can find the application link, I will do the necessary from my end. Thank you once again for paying it forward - it goes a long way.
Hey design colleges are there in india.. people from there have really strong foundations . colleges like nid and few iits like iitb and iitd . it will be a massive career option in upcoming years
Nikhil has done good homework on research he was asking on point question .... good thing to see that a person from financial field is here to know something about our gaming industry ... and respect for @8bitThug that how he answered the questions so cleaverly .
Thank you sooo much Nikhil !! The kind of questions you were asking was soooo soooo relevant and insightful and kudos the panel for sitting for such a long duration and answering each and everything soo patiently ! Please keep bringing more content
Thank you guys. Really valuable podcast . Lot of insight for an engineering student like me who love games, and want to make something in gaming in India.
The real appeal of Ludo is its social aspect. People gather around one mobile device, making it more about relationships than the game itself. However, monetisation is challenging because players often play offline to avoid ads. In India, where people often gamble based on the game. Players can sometimes predict the game's randomness, leading to bets placed outside the game. This insight might help bring monetisation into the game.
HEY Sir.... can u discuss with a panel of people to discuss on Art an Painting industry... the people involved , the pricing techniques, the way to lead the art market.,.everything?
Am i the only one who felt jospeh was the only one who was being honesty ? Indian guy couldn't justify going public nor could accept he made a mistake by going public. Krafton guy was scared, he was trained about what and how much to say. 8bit was just trying to sell gaming. Gaming can never be a career in india. Most of the so called gamers earn through RUclips and streams whether than actual gaming. Nikhil knew people as are earning through streams rather than actual gaming. If you are giving your 10yr old an iPad then obviously he would not go out and play physical game. Sports is never going to die. Most of india cannot afford a good pc or a console. Not even a high end phone. Gaming will never become what it is in the US, in India.
Partly true in the end but things are changing. 'chapris' as people say are able to get top tier phones on emi and what not easily. Also it's not really necessary for physical sport to die & esports to emerge as a sole survivor.
@@kanishhh I agree to the second part while I share different opinion regarding the affordability of high end devices. I do not think majority of india, which is the real india is still available to afford a phone worth 40 thousand. Even if we hypothetical think everyone has a good phone still it doesn't mean they wants to make a living out of it. As nikhil gave the stat, 96% gamers are mobile gamers. It is likely that they play games in their free time. Also It is extremely hard to make money from mobile games as compared to pc and console gaming. Majority revenue of gaming industry comes from the company who sell their game's copy. Eg gta, cod, etc. Even pubg is declining. I don't think there is any other mobile game through which gamers can make money. Majority of india cannot afford a high end pc or a console or even if they can then they don't get time to play. Work life balance is so bad in India. You cannot make a living out of Mobile games. You have to play pc/ console games which has a pretty small market in India. You would find more viewership on mobile games streams then pc games stream in India. Because majority of people are most of the time not even aware that there is this particular game called xyz. These so called gamers have started making vlogs and doing random challenges rather than playing the actual game.
Loved the pod. Joseph’s clarity of thought is brilliant! However I think you missed a key point about the work culture in the gaming world, the mad working hours and the lack of pay industry wide.
basically i realized that everyone tries to tell people about different opportunities but still no one can beat the 'IIT ENGINEER' in terms of money when everybody is talking about skills it kind of make me glad on my decision to join a iit
A lot of people might not know Especially those who are not into gaming If you compare gaming with cricket in cricket if you are playing ranji trophy or and other similar event that's when you are getting paid it takes hardly 4 years for a 14 or 15 year old cricketer to play ranji or any other league and get paid a great price BUT while in gaming no one gives around 4 years if they don't get anything back which is okay and brings the bread in the house people in gaming want early succes and apart from that ranji player get payed a lot compared to an average esports player at that level and also in cricket if someone performs there is a probability that he will become famous but in gaming if u r not famous it's hard for you to earn money only 10 to 12 names will dominate here but then there will be lakhs waiting like one day it'll be our chance but it might not come so yeah the point of keeping a backup ready is really really correct coz if u are successful and loved one day it takes not even a second for the audience to bring you down and if u don't have audience u don't have money....
Mr. Kamath, I would love you to a do a WTF is Cinema in India, with some of the best filmmakers, film producers of India. My pick would from be SS Rajamouli, Sanjay leela Bhansali, Farhan Akhtar/Ritesh Sidhwani, Vijay Kirgandur, Prashanth neel basically the people who balance art and the business......
Exciting times for Indian gaming indeed! Huge congrats to Nazara for the listing! 🎮 However, as a first-time visitor to their website, I can't help but feel it's a bit underwhelming. A sleek upgrade could really elevate the experience and match the industry's exciting growth!
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Joseph Kim is on different level in terms of market understanding and how effortlessly he is translating that info into simple words. Wow what a legend.
Major missed info from him on this pod is what kind of games work in India.
I am pretty sure Joseph felt like it was not worth joining this discussion panel.
Even when Nassir (Nasdaily) was a part of this podcast, one could easily observe the level of in depth knowledge, intellect and excellence in communication he had over other content creators.
Same with other international individuals ( Including NRIs working in US ).
And I think the flaw lies in our culture and education system, and I don't know how that's going to change, but if any core nationlist sees this, it is an initiative worth taking.
Joseph Kim has a vision and clarity of thoughts. He correctly mentioned all the nuances of gaming industry and rightly put forward where and what Indians are lacking at. Indeed a true visionary.
Hats off to Nikhil, another master piece ❤
As a gaming entrepreneur I agree with most of the points addressed by Joseph Kim. Gaming as a career choice has to be appreciated at an high school level.
Konsi field mai business krta hai bhai?
@@gurubaxaniuday4884 Google me
@@shubhambengale6839 okk
I gotta say Nikhil is an amazing person. Wonderful, humble, generous, and super charismatic. I (Joseph Kim- writing from my Gamedev YT channel) was and am super humbled to have been invited to such a great show. Just skimming through some of the comments here, I can see Nikhil has a really supportive community, and OMG Thug must be doing something really right to have such a huge and committed audience. Anyway, for some of you who wrote nice things about me... thank you guys. I'm used to doing super niche content for tiny audiences so it's cool to see so many people interested in gaming/gamedev content here.
Thanks for the insights
You shared some amazing insights into the gaming industry. I wish the podcast was longer!
He's a cheat lol
I don't know anything about gaming, but have watched the full video and was very much impressed with your insights and the deep knowledge you have in the industry
Awesome Joseph..and thank you.
So very well spoken by Thug ❤ handled the tricky questions like a boss !! 🎉 thanks for representing us always ❤ thug 🚀
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2024 is the year of S8UL🚀🚀❤
+1
❤ S8UL 🚀🚀🚀
Bund chatai kar leta hu sponsor ship dila dega 🤡
Day 150 for asking WTF is manufacturing?
Ind / Acc 🚀🇮🇳
+1
You’re too poor for that
Bhai Jo bana Raha hai voh toh dekhle.
Bc yaha pe.. nikhil k podcast se hi sikhni hai manufacturing tujhe...etne dino me toh factory bana k manufacturing karna chalu kar deta tu
25:10 Nitish showing respect to thug for how he handled one of the dangerous question for BGMI.
Thug 🙇
+1
context
He handled it well.
This is why these ppl get invitation to speak in public… Thug showing his qualifications are not mere papers🤞🏼❤️
@@vijaysinghpatel3156hhhhh
S8UL GOING AT THE SPEED OF ACTUAL SPACESHIP 🚀
Like Their Pendant 🙌🏻❤️
Abey ye bache kaha agye iss video k comments me 😂
Tum dogs se to acha hai 🥱 🐶@@stealthoverflow
@@gurubaxaniuday4884 beta padhai likhai kar jaake 😂
1 subscriber hai tera, koi career nahi hai isme.
Padhai likhai kar, D Class ki naukri milegi tab apne gareeb ma baap ka Sahara ban paega
@@stealthoverflow kisne kha mai subscribers ke liye betha hun 😂 abe sale already qualified CA hun 1.4 lakhs mahine ki job hai aur stock market vgera se 2 lakh aur kma leta hun tujse bhut achi life hai
The fact that this long form podcast gets strong viewership shows that great content is always timeless. Also super helpful to see more Indians adopting to long form podcasts in the past year.
How many of those viewers who have clicked on the podcast have actually seen the whole video? The number would be very less
So good to see India Game Developer Conference ( IGDC ) being mentioned at 2:05:05 . Glad to see Industry veterans on the podcast.
here for Thug #S8UL
Waiting for a podcast on Space tech companies in India❤
Good idea. Defence too maybe and psu stock related maybe
As a fulltime designer and a avid gamer with more than 12k hrs, i can proudly say this was one of the best podcasts for my domains. Thanks Nik! Would love to fill out that application.
Nice! Where do you work bro?
Joseph looks so much interested in building capabilities in India. Huge respect!
He will probably pack up and leave in 3 years. I do not doubt his passion, but I doubt the development of our ecosystem.
@@yomamasohot6411 I will be more optimistic but I won't be surprised if he leaves.
Man i have never seen discussion on such level Joseph talking about lot of things its like a master class for many
That Nazara guy speaks so diplomatic answers. Not even a single question was answered to the point.
He cannot, as a owner of public company. Any share holder can take him to court including his opponents.
@@abhiwins123itna bhi kuch strict nahi hota bhai india hai china nahi 😅
@@anonymouswho2165hm tum bc pure corporate ko Indianise karo. "Idhar sab chalta hai"
@@anonymouswho2165spoken like a true Brokie
Joshep Kim the founder of LiLa Games is the only person who started the company in US but soon after shifted to India for making games with Indian origin.
Hatta off to this Mann ❤
Thug- The Visionaire🔥🚀🚀🚀
Gotta give it to him Thug just handled questions like boss… Uplifting the Scene💪🏼🤞🏼❤️
Next should be : WTF is fintech and WTF is Asset Management
I think they have covered the fintech òne
they have covered asset management as well
Thank you Nikhil for this channel. I still can't believe all these videos are for free. These videos are informative and provide a very good knowledge and ideas to people like me who are clueless or trying to find direction on what we want to do in life. Thank you.
Here for 8 the bit the great thug
i loved the part where they talked abt designers and artists who're getting paid less then their work worth and would love to see changes in that area as an artist myself thanks for this it was very knowledgeable and helpful
I love how Nikhil's trying to demystify game design down to its essence, not only with engines, platforms, and scripting languages, but also with the larger storyboard, streaming economics and actually generate something that an aspiring enthusiast can take away.
The podcast appeared to be heavily focused on mobile gaming, neglecting the broader gaming landscape in India. While mobile gaming may have a larger audience, it should not be the sole focus here when discussing the gaming industry in the country. Some people including me or I should say those with extensive gaming experience, may have anticipated a more comprehensive exploration of the true essence of gaming, which was lacking in the podcast. And I respectfully disagree with your point here ,Nikhil, did not even delve into the perspectives and experiences of dedicated gamers or the deeper significance of gaming. However, it is worth noting that the guest speakers, especially Kim, provided valuable insights into the Indian gaming community that even Indian gaming community may not have been aware of. Their knowledge and intellect deserves nothing but admiration and respect.
Joseph really have Very clear Future Vision. 1:17:56 I'm Listening Joseph and already on mission. This thing very few people understand. That future is Indie games.
Welcome to the most insightful, psychologically twisting, and unpredictable podcast out there. 🎉
This podcast is unique and different from usual one's, there's a lot to learn about the gaming industry. Kudos to thug he has worked hard to get to this forum ❤
He started with 1 cr allocation and everyone went silent after that 😅
What a gentleman he is, only nikhil allocated same amount of money
😂😂😂
Because as a listed company he can allocate his own money, and also as a gaming company he knows how many issues he is facing due to lack of talent in this sector
Can anyone please tell me how to apply? Where
This was THE epic moment! Massive Respect.
super fun, engaging conversation! thanks so much mr. kamath and guests :)
Here for Thug and S8uL! 🚀💙
Thugwa s8ul ke fan se salam
Thank you Joseph❤…..Everything you talked about was backed with examples and reality. Got to learn a lot from others as well🎉
Nice one Nikhil…..keep up with the curiosity driving in.
#S8ULOP
Being a gamer from my childhood - cant really relate to any game discussed in this episode - this is completely mobile oriented which makes sense in india
Yeah mobile is the go to for india
Most of india can't afford consoles or high end PCs
Yup we can't relate with things when we heard thing about CS or PS5.
Animesh has a very myopic view, unsurprising considering his forte.
But the others should have talked more about AA/AAA titles, Indies and the big forces in the game industry.EA and Ubisoft have had studios in India for longer than most of the panelists.
this podcast is for India only
If you are a real gamer(not mobile) then I feel like we are born in the wrong country. Mobile gaming has picked up in India because we are poor and cannot afford to pay for a PC/console or games. F2p android games are played by the youth who don't earn or earn little money. And if you are smart enough, you will realize because the income inequality is increasing, those poor people will never do well enough to ever transition into fully paid PC/ console gamers. India seems forever be doomed to be a f2p mobile gaming nation with poor RPU.
S8UL❤💙
I think one of the future episode should be on anime industry, there's a big chunk of Indian young audience who consume anime a lot, even people who are over 30 or close to that , as we have seen animes like Dragon Ball, we 've grown watching that
With no disrespect , the depth at which Joseph speaks, showcases the difference in intellect. Every hindsight he provides, is backed with accurate data and a strong explanation. If India could produce such intellects, be it any industry, we would be prospering at a rapid growth. Foundation plays a key role in developing a long term vision.
I am 19 and “Just out of learning intent I am kind of in a dilemma whether or not take Nikhil’s questing attitude to be an essential part of learning or should we be more grounded with people who are well established and might provide us an opportunity. What’s your thoughts guys.
Joseph Kim made a perceptive observation; it's true that India is struggling to produce skilled talent and is plagued by mediocrity. I've noticed that many of my friends chase after substantial salaries rather than pursuing their passion for their craft, which is quite disheartening.
Sad but a true fact. We go after money first.
I invested in Nazara technologies in October 23 listening the news that Nikhil has invested in it. It has fell big 28% until now. So, just for the comment reader’s here please don’t invest blindly without doing any research of your own, like the mistake i made here.
You've certainly made a mistake that a rookie makes. But it is stupid to blame Nikhil over it because the guy didn't fake. He is still invested in it. He has a strategy and you don't. That is the problem.
@@yomamasohot6411 I’m not blaming anyone, just wanted to mention it so that no one else makes this mistake too.
Bro, if you played any game developed by nazara you will never invest in them. Look at their graphics. Pathetic. How are they going to compete in global level with no good games.
Damn this podcast goes so deep when they start talking about psychology of battle royale games
Nikhil is like a curious child. The podcasts are amazing
S8ul🚀
After moving to US from India working in Tech, I noticed lot of small things & reason why we lack such expertise. In china if you see the education system teach lot of low level stuff like working with Kernel, Embedded basically systems programming. Whereas in India you want to go learn next big thing which is problematic cause you haven’t understand basics and you start working on abstraction & fancy things. This is the main problem, which translates to skill set, bubble up & it leads to not having kind of expertise industry expects. Translating to us not being able to produce quality software.
This is one of the best content available for indian young people who want to consider career in gaming ! Thank you Nikhil for publishing this !
Hi Nikhil and WTF team,
I know its difficult but can you try to do a podcast with all brokerage firms? (Groww, Zerodha, 5Paisa, Angel one, Upstox)
I think if he does a podcast with them they can't come to the podcast because nikhil always gives warning to investors that you should spend all your money into trading and all he guides investors a lot but on the other hand companies like upstox, groww, angel one are only doing business that's why I think that's why they don't come to podcast
NOW I KNOW HOW THUG IS LEADING 8 BIT AND S8UL HE IS REALLY GOOD STORY TELLER
Can relate to Mr Nitish. My niece (11 yrs old) and nephew ( 6 yrs) are so into Minecraft and Technogamerz. Also they like to watch their favourite streamers playing games. I think this is a substantial shift into the likes of today's younger generation compared to us millennials or even gen z.
This was one of the most educative podcasts of this show. Joseph was amazing, thanks for sharing your knowledge and insights.
Soul Forever 🚀🚀🚀
This guy is dropping podcasts longer then movies & I'm all up for it🩵
Then you haven't listened to Joe Rogan I suppose?
@@shortcinematicuniverse895 I’ve been a loyal listener of Joe Rogan’s podcasts as well. It’s just that pulling of something like it in INDIA requires some grit! :)
@@shortcinematicuniverse895 have been a constant listener of Joe Rogan’s podcasts as well. It’s just that doing something like it in India requires some grit!
@@shortcinematicuniverse895joe Rogan is boring and a shit talker
Nikhil at least has some useful conversation
25:11 Nitish be like - Are baba yeh toh dhoti khol rha hai 😂
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I believe this podcast delivered a summary of the current gaming industry so profoundly. It was an absolute joy to watch the whole podcast, and i applaud all the participants for contributing to nourish the Indian gaming industry. Keep up the good work and we are here to support you.
Half way through the podcast and I can see Joseph is awesome ,he understands gaming very good and always having different perspective ,I like the way of thinking that there is opportunity of making games in India ,everybody is running behind becoming a professional gamer or streamer but there is also a opportunity of making games
Literally very big for eSports,
S8uL Op🚀
I want Nikhil to have a podcast where he asks "as a 20 year old who wants to do nothing or knows nothing what to do in his/her life what should be done??"
Sadly India Don't even own 1% of Actual Game Production Industry. Except Gambling games.
We don't even have single Game Production Company with $Billion Valuations.
But will Build 1.
Literally I Just recently realized I'm the First Indian Game Developer Who Released "First Multiplayer PC Game" on steam.
I'm not open for Investors because in Game Production Investor kills the project under pressure. Because Investor always hunting for profits and in Games Revenue don't come in before release. Which i Don't like. Allready rejected multiple Investments. And Krafton Incubation program is also Investment against equity. So I'm just open for Grant's/Supporters.
would love to see a podcast on animation industry, as the anime form of entertainment is booming all over the world and it is still hasn't started in india in the form of production
Day 155 for asking WTF is manufacturing?
abe itne time main toh khud heen research paper likh de deta
To the point where Thug was saying that the world is moving towards shorts/reels culture, there's a seperate fanbase for podcasts these days, everyone's coming up with long durations of detailed podcasts of upto 2 to 3 hrs that clock pretty good views
S8UL 🚀
Amazing insights about entrepreneurship/gaming industry. I am really looking forward to more podcasts like this one.
Comments section seems everyone is taking about thug and thug and didn't even understood the deepness of this podcast we will having so much issue and we nothing what the world has achieved in gaming that the development, eSports(that is only bgmi nothing else much), funding and support
yeah I'm so dissatisfied that they didn't talk elaboratively about future and progress of pc and console gaming in India and the criticality of piracy in India instead they talked so much about how mobile gaming is the future and blah blah and the juncture at which thug said that games will need to be fast pace and all that felt like utter bullshit to me for me games need to be good at 3 parameters which are story-gameplay-graphics , if a game stand strong on these then its most prolly gonna be great , sorry to say but we needed better insights than this , although I liked a lot of points spoken by joseph he talked about a lot of technical stuff too which were very penetrative .
Thanks guys for Investing in Indian Gaming, and nurturing Indian Talent
Why don't you try next episode on Medical/Health Industry in India?.... You know... with some Influential Doctors/ Phama Entrepreneur/ Hospital Entrepreneurs. For people like us who wants to make something big in Medical Industry.
Day 156 for asking WTF is manufacturing?
@Nikhil Kamath - What is the initiative that you have taken which you discussed at the end of this podcast ?? I could not see any link in the video description .. Where can I find it ??
Joseph's clarity and knowledge of his playing field is insane
Inviting gaming influencers to provide feedback before launch is an amazing that can be used across other categories too 👏👏
S8ul ❤❤🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Next podcast on sneaker resellers like mainsteet etc or retail sellers like vnv or new emerging Indian sneaker brands like comet or gully labs
Great podcast . S8UL FTW
Where are the steps and the free courses which were talked about at 1:23:32
Real salaries of Game Art and Design guys and for engineers it will be 20% more if you have good negotiation skill otherwise it will be same
Small company: 2 LPA to 3.5 LPA (Entry level)
Mid level company: 3.5 LPA to 6 LPA ( Entry level)
Big company: 6-12 LPA (Entry level)
Disclaimer: Mainly mid level and big companies not look for freshers. They want atleast 2 years of experience and by chance if they hire like once in a year for freshers then the opening will be so less like 2-6 person only.
Hello @Nikhil Kamath, thank you to you and all the great panelists in this video. I want to ask about the form/application/poll where we can submit our profiles to be considered as one of the 20 selected candidates. My partner has been playing games even before he could speak a word, in my honest opinion, and I know he has watched this video, but I want to push him further to pursue his dream of cracking a career in gaming. I am off Instagram, but if you could let me know here where I can find the application link, I will do the necessary from my end. Thank you once again for paying it forward - it goes a long way.
+1, waiting for the application form.I hope Nikhil's team informs us about this very soon.
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I cannot believe that today's age has made possible to record and share such information. Nikhil has been a great equalizer
Hey design colleges are there in india.. people from there have really strong foundations . colleges like nid and few iits like iitb and iitd . it will be a massive career option in upcoming years
Nikhil has done good homework on research he was asking on point question .... good thing to see that a person from financial field is here to know something about our gaming industry ... and respect for @8bitThug that how he answered the questions so cleaverly .
Want manufacturing 😊❤😊❤😊
Like me lot of other people are also asking for
“WTF IS MANUFACTURING”
Wtf is cv building and insights in recruiting in big firms
Please one ep on this 💯💯🙏🙏
Please make a podcast on how to become a cricketer, you can invite cricketers, coaches, any bcci member, etc
Thank you sooo much Nikhil !! The kind of questions you were asking was soooo soooo relevant and insightful and kudos the panel for sitting for such a long duration and answering each and everything soo patiently ! Please keep bringing more content
Joseph kim has very good knowledge bro 🔥
Thank you guys. Really valuable podcast . Lot of insight for an engineering student like me who love games, and want to make something in gaming in India.
Thug the men with vision ❤
Why does he not invite day traders and provide insights into trading
The real appeal of Ludo is its social aspect. People gather around one mobile device, making it more about relationships than the game itself. However, monetisation is challenging because players often play offline to avoid ads. In India, where people often gamble based on the game. Players can sometimes predict the game's randomness, leading to bets placed outside the game. This insight might help bring monetisation into the game.
HEY Sir.... can u discuss with a panel of people to discuss on Art an Painting industry... the people involved , the pricing techniques, the way to lead the art market.,.everything?
Am i the only one who felt jospeh was the only one who was being honesty ? Indian guy couldn't justify going public nor could accept he made a mistake by going public. Krafton guy was scared, he was trained about what and how much to say. 8bit was just trying to sell gaming. Gaming can never be a career in india. Most of the so called gamers earn through RUclips and streams whether than actual gaming. Nikhil knew people as are earning through streams rather than actual gaming. If you are giving your 10yr old an iPad then obviously he would not go out and play physical game. Sports is never going to die. Most of india cannot afford a good pc or a console. Not even a high end phone. Gaming will never become what it is in the US, in India.
Partly true in the end but things are changing. 'chapris' as people say are able to get top tier phones on emi and what not easily. Also it's not really necessary for physical sport to die & esports to emerge as a sole survivor.
@@kanishhh I agree to the second part while I share different opinion regarding the affordability of high end devices. I do not think majority of india, which is the real india is still available to afford a phone worth 40 thousand. Even if we hypothetical think everyone has a good phone still it doesn't mean they wants to make a living out of it. As nikhil gave the stat, 96% gamers are mobile gamers. It is likely that they play games in their free time. Also It is extremely hard to make money from mobile games as compared to pc and console gaming. Majority revenue of gaming industry comes from the company who sell their game's copy. Eg gta, cod, etc. Even pubg is declining. I don't think there is any other mobile game through which gamers can make money. Majority of india cannot afford a high end pc or a console or even if they can then they don't get time to play. Work life balance is so bad in India. You cannot make a living out of Mobile games. You have to play pc/ console games which has a pretty small market in India. You would find more viewership on mobile games streams then pc games stream in India. Because majority of people are most of the time not even aware that there is this particular game called xyz. These so called gamers have started making vlogs and doing random challenges rather than playing the actual game.
@@Indian.cricket911 India need to increase its per capita income for more disposable money after that...something can change
Loved the pod. Joseph’s clarity of thought is brilliant! However I think you missed a key point about the work culture in the gaming world, the mad working hours and the lack of pay industry wide.
basically i realized that everyone tries to tell people about different opportunities but still no one can beat the 'IIT ENGINEER' in terms of money when everybody is talking about skills it kind of make me glad on my decision to join a iit
A lot of people might not know
Especially those who are not into gaming
If you compare gaming with cricket in cricket if you are playing ranji trophy or and other similar event that's when you are getting paid it takes hardly 4 years for a 14 or 15 year old cricketer to play ranji or any other league and get paid a great price
BUT
while in gaming no one gives around 4 years if they don't get anything back which is okay and brings the bread in the house people in gaming want early succes and apart from that ranji player get payed a lot compared to an average esports player at that level and also in cricket if someone performs there is a probability that he will become famous but in gaming if u r not famous it's hard for you to earn money only 10 to 12 names will dominate here but then there will be lakhs waiting like one day it'll be our chance but it might not come so yeah the point of keeping a backup ready is really really correct coz if u are successful and loved one day it takes not even a second for the audience to bring you down and if u don't have audience u don't have money....
There is one word to describe what took you 2 paras, and that is 'ecosystem'.
Mr. Kamath, I would love you to a do a WTF is Cinema in India, with some of the best filmmakers, film producers of India.
My pick would from be SS Rajamouli, Sanjay leela Bhansali, Farhan Akhtar/Ritesh Sidhwani, Vijay Kirgandur, Prashanth neel basically the people who balance art and the business......
If you have called people on the platform then atleast let them speak, why you keep cutting them off when they are telling something informative..
Thug 🧢🐐🚀🚀
Exciting times for Indian gaming indeed! Huge congrats to Nazara for the listing! 🎮 However, as a first-time visitor to their website, I can't help but feel it's a bit underwhelming. A sleek upgrade could really elevate the experience and match the industry's exciting growth!
Joseph is the most knowledgeable guy in the panel
Joseph spitting facts the entire podcast 🔥
Thug handled the questions so well🎉
The best part was the last part - "Doing something for the community"!