The Rationality of Christian Belief w/ Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P. & Fr. Thomas Joseph White, O.P.

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @jayson.garrison
    @jayson.garrison 4 месяца назад +13

    I am studying at the Angelicum and taking a class on the Trinity with Fr. White. His book on the Trinity is extremely lucid and accessible. He is a tremendous lecturer, profound scholar, and inspiring to young Catholics to maintain orthodoxy. I will definitely be reading his other works. Truly a blessing to learn from Fr. White.

  • @anthonynuzzo9512
    @anthonynuzzo9512 4 месяца назад +2

    An engaging and intellectually satisfying discussion between two theologians of the first rank. God bless Father White and Father Pine!

  • @dominicflamiano452
    @dominicflamiano452 5 месяцев назад +9

    Just listening to Fr Thomas Joseph White, OP, Rector the Angelicum, riff on Thomas and the rational and revealed arguments against materialistic reductionist ideology, the basis of identity ideology, is a grace unto itself. Second only to the banjo picking.

  • @tylerfoss3346
    @tylerfoss3346 5 месяцев назад +5

    The Hillbilly Thomists?
    I LOVE IT!!!
    Awesome!
    Keep on playing, keep on smiling!

  • @adelinomorte7421
    @adelinomorte7421 5 месяцев назад +6

    ***IT IS MUCH BETTER THAT FAITH HAS A STRONG REASONING BACKGROUND***

  • @mathewsbiju3251
    @mathewsbiju3251 5 месяцев назад +1

    Saved. Thanks for this Fathers!

  • @decluesviews2740
    @decluesviews2740 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great as always!

  • @benclark1482
    @benclark1482 5 месяцев назад +1

    This sounds like such a a good book! It's like a fully drawn out comprehensive argument for Christianity

  • @soroushfetkovich5084
    @soroushfetkovich5084 5 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent!

  • @bnguye44
    @bnguye44 5 месяцев назад +10

    just want to shout out Fr. TJW for being so helpful during my studies! A handful of his writings and talks (some are freely available online) were pivotal in increasing my ability to cooperate with graces the Lord wanted to give to me. He's always intellectually engaging and consistently gives help to anyone longing to grow in knowledge and love of God. Praised be Jesus Christ!!!

  • @tomgreene1843
    @tomgreene1843 5 месяцев назад +1

    Fr Thomas ...sound man indeed like Aquinas ! We know in part.

  • @deussacracommunioest2108
    @deussacracommunioest2108 5 месяцев назад +2

    Your blessings, It came to me that the Aristotelian-Thomistic aproach, even though it brings about a multitude of paths to the Truth, for it is Blessed, may be less efficient particularly in the evidentiation of its own Consistence, and therefore of the Truth itself, in comparison to the tautological metamatics of the classical philosophy of Socrates and Plato. The Concept of Existence proves itself, as the Concept of Truth. Now the possibility to question Truth, while it means imediate Existence, proves the concept of Essence. But if there is Essence, there is correspondence or not to the Truth, which would be absurd if there wasn't Freedom. Now if there is the Imminence of Truth, that is, Freedom, there is also the Culmination of it, Judgement. Just sharing some thoughts that could help, Seat of Wisdom and Saint Doctors, pray for us

  • @weedram7771
    @weedram7771 5 месяцев назад

    Wow amazing..............................what were they talking about? 😁🤔🤔

  • @francoisraphaelhelstone7761
    @francoisraphaelhelstone7761 5 месяцев назад

    Camillo ever heard about the theories of Wittgenstein on how words can lead to debates, not discussions. If you have a chance to visit a shiva and read about the historic developments in religion in general. Why are Jesus his words, that he only came for the children of Israel hardly ever mentioned? How is it possible that christianity accepted slavery for centuries based on the story of Noach: The children of Cham will be their brothers servants (not slaves). This is an explaing of the white supriority . Christions made money out ot of enslaved people, where Jesus told the love your fellow men like you love yourself! Is it lead or mislead human beings and even make them forget that Jesus was a Jew not a Christian, and Israel is the land given to the Jews by G.d. and explain the RC reasoning of the Nazi route after the WWII and paying the prise to Evita Perron by granting her a meeting with the Pope. To go back to the beginning Why was Kain his offering was not accepted by G.d? I believe in G.d but not in a Church, certainly not the RC church in Rome, that have hurt human beings! I love human beings not based on fear. Mary was not the mother of G.d, it is not clear if she was the mother of Christ. In the Thora it is written, Sjema Israel, Adonai Elehenoe, Adonai Achat, Hear Israel, G.d is one! Remember what Christions did to the Jews. G.d said: Remember that what you do to my chosen people, you do to me!

    • @deussacracommunioest2108
      @deussacracommunioest2108 5 месяцев назад

      Greetings, let's see if I got you right: So you believe God, but do not believe in being in Communion with others who also believe in Him? Now it seems that you think our sins are capable of impairing us from partaking Communion, and you are right, but according to Jesus Christ, true contrition is enough to keep us in Communion. Now if you do believe in a Communion, that is, a Christian Communion that is not the Catholic Church, you will need an infinite amount of steps to justify which of the more than 55 thousand denominations, each one believing its own little thing, is actually the One True Church and Doctrine. So instead you seem to preach against the Hope of Communion, out of despairing for your own sins. But Jesus Christ died for the sake of Communion with us, for our sins, and He told us to do the same. Now if there is no Church, no Concrete Incarnated Sign of God's Love for us and of His Triumph over death and evil, then vain is the Christian Message. Many are those who say they are jews, but they are not. For what is good about the Old Alliance if not the Love for Mercy and the Promise of Redemption from Sin? That is why it is written that the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to folk that will bear fruit. For the offspring of Faith are the ones who Love Justice, not sinners with a cut pp.

    • @deussacracommunioest2108
      @deussacracommunioest2108 5 месяцев назад

      *By the way, Kaim should have understood that God wanted the blood of the First Born and offered himself to Him, but instead he spilled the blood of his brother, by the lack of trust in God. Kyrie Eleison!

  • @russellmiles2861
    @russellmiles2861 5 месяцев назад

    Nah, just wicked

  • @msgoody2shoes959
    @msgoody2shoes959 5 месяцев назад +5

    Fr. Thomas,....thanks for your kind thoughts....you have a good heart. Agape.

  • @TheChurchofBreadandCheese
    @TheChurchofBreadandCheese 5 месяцев назад +3

    Christianity is interesting to me. We can have philosophical and theological tomes on God's existence but yet it is the mysticism of St Teresa of Avila, Paul & John of the Cross and many others which we are called to experience also that gives us the true certitude of faith. Speaking of course of infused contemplation that occurs in the illuminative stage\ 4th mansions\ after and during the Dark night of the senses. Great video Fathers.

  • @suzifloren6090
    @suzifloren6090 Месяц назад +1

    CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT CHRISTIAN. . Worshiping Mary is not FROM JESUS. WORSHIP GOD!
    THE CHURCH IS FROM CONSTITINE AND MITHRA WORSHIP.

  • @philipculbertson55
    @philipculbertson55 4 месяца назад +2

    This is a wonderful interview and I've now watched it twice. I am not a Catholic (Baptist) but I learn a great deal from all of these conversations. One thing that was stated near the end was that the Catholic traditions offer a wealth of educational writings, resources, and discussions and I believe that is true. From a protestant perspective, having been both Presbyterian and now Baptist, I just don't find the same level of resources or engagement. Well done Father Gregory and Father Thomas Jospeh.

  • @CamiloSoares87
    @CamiloSoares87 5 месяцев назад +12

    Nothing more thomistic than a book to defend the rationality of Christian faith

    • @frederickanderson1860
      @frederickanderson1860 5 месяцев назад

      0:37 0:37 0:37 the logos became flesh .it never convinced his people. So pointless using thomas Aquinas or any church father's to convince others. Jesus prayer in gospel of john chapter 17 is very apparent that he came for those his father had given him.predestination is the only explanation.

  • @gwydionhythlothferrinassol1025
    @gwydionhythlothferrinassol1025 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for posting this! brain food 🥑! I think transcendence of sensoria is more valid than start of life. That's just like winning the lotto, when you've 4.something billion years, unlimited retries to get self replicating chemicals as first step, a bake oven from the sun, water, and chem mixing in water. I like here the Buddhists realm of the human, as one of potential. Looking forward to vol 1 arriving, ty again teachers.

  • @apikmin
    @apikmin 5 месяцев назад

  • @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
    @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 5 месяцев назад +1

    "The church of Rome once in times of old was for the great glory of her piety, her heavenly doctrine, her divine service, Christian discipline and constancy in the faith against all heretics, most famous. And as the sun in the firmament shines far brighter than all stars, so she shined far above all churches on earth by example of her exceeding Christian piety, that well and fittingly she deserved to be generally called the mother of all churches. But into what and into how great darkness and blindness did she after sink by God’s just judgment, being as it were cast out of heaven and in the same still lies buried and drowned? He that in such great light of the gospel sees this not is blinder than a mole. Neither is it any new thing, seeing the same happened first to the church of the Israelites, afterward to the churches in the East and to them in Greece."
    -Girolamo Zanchi, Confession of the Christian Religion, Dedicatory Epistle, pg. 2

    • @Greg-n
      @Greg-n 3 месяца назад

      zanchi was a weak theologian who -along with other reformers- thought he could collapse the sacerdotal system and dissolve the apostolic paradigm instituted by Christ in order to cover himself with imputed righteousness in "the great exchange"; a feeble and deeply erroneous theology.