Seán, wearing a Battlestar Galactica shirt while talking Star Trek? I Love It! I believe all the SciFi fans can Coexist! I remember, in the 70s, 80s, going to SciFi conventions long before there were "Trek" conventions. As always, thank you all so very much for the videos.
I love all sci-fi shows from the premiere of "Next Generation" in 1987 to the end of "Battlestar Galactica" in 2009. Babylon 5, Stargate SG-1, Farscape, Andromeda, etc. The Golden Age of TV sci-fi!
The Picard episode you were referring to, with the Enterprise-D engaging the Borg, was more akin to Episode VI: The Return of the Jedi than Ep. IV: A New Hope. They flew inside the Borg vessel, like the Millennium Falcon and the Rebel fighters did against the second Death Star over Endor's moon.
The Yamato also did something like that in Be Forever Yamato. Flew inside a giant skeletal metal planet and destroyed the core world portion of it with the Wave Motion gun. The resulting detonation ended up destroying a galaxy in the process.
I totally agree. You can listen to James Horner's score in ST II:TWOK and follow along with the Battle of the Mutara Nebula without even looking at the screen. This score was James Horner's magnum opus; it was glorious.
James Horner actually makes a cameo as an enlisted trainee on the Enterprise, he’s seen walking down a corridor holding a long tool with a light on one end. (I believe it’s after Kirk returns to the ship from the Genesis Cave and they are calling everyone to battle stations).
I remember the first time I saw "The Jem'Hadar", how utterly horrified and shocked I was when the Odyssey blew. At that time, the Galaxy class was the Federation's toughest ship, and they took it out so easily. I remember just staring with bugged-out eye and my jaw on the ground when it happened, unable to believe what I had just seen. I was in my younger teens at the time, and had never heard of the concept of a suicide run. The Omarion Nebula Massacre had such a great setup, but I was disappointed we didn't see the rest of it. We only saw a tiny amount, and then the Defiant swooped in, got our buds, and left. I really would've liked to see more of the battle itself. As for the rebuilt Enterprise-D, I had a mild continuity nag. When the Enterprise-D saucer crashed on Veridian III, the bridge module had received some heavy upgrades after the non-events of "All Good Things" (because they didn't actually happen, thanks to Q.). So, unless Geordi was being nostalgic, I don't understand why the bridge would have been reverted to the 2360s model.
That's easy to answer, The bridge is a swappable module (next gen tech manual) so when the upgraded bridge for the generations movie got trashed during the crash landing of the saucer it wasn't the same bridge module. The old one still existed.
Mubarak Nebula and Wolf 359 (even if it basically occurs offscreen) are gold. The latter got Starfleet to take security seriously and gave us the Defiant.
Entry 4 forgets a very pivotal plot twist: Cmdr. Deanna Troi -- who managed to safely land the original Enterprise-D saucer section on Veridian III -- senses her husband (and also her ex-boyfriend) and manoeuvres the newly-rebuilt 1701-D à la Tokyo Drift when she takes the helm. Yeah, that was a SCENE!
I have a projector at home, but I got the chance last year to watch wrath of khan in the cinema, well worth it! There’s a reason it’s up there on everyone’s favourite trek list
Space battles are nasty. It's not like you can get out of the way. It's odd, in a way, how casually our hero cast takes it when they have "a hull breech on decks 11 and 12." That means Bob in HR just got blown out towards Arcturus.
In honor of the shirt you are wearing, whatculture should have a channel dedicated to scifi TV that isn't StarTrek. There is so much science fiction TV from the 70s, 80s, 90s.
Good battles don't always happen in space. DS9 had some good ground battles. That battle where Nog lost his leg and the one where Jake gets scared come to mind.
I remember watching as it originally aired when the Oddesy was destroyed by the J'em Hedar ship in a Komikozy ( probably spelled that wrong) run. I was absolutely shocked!
"No Kirk, the games not over" and then the Genesis wave readings from Enterprise, just fantastic. Oh and is it just me or does the Genesis wave image look more than a little similar to the molecule in Voyagers The Omega Directive..
I've got my personal top 10: 10 - Such Sweet Sorrow, Discovery 09 - Yorktown, Beyond 08 - Douglas Station, Lower Decks 07 - Enterprise vs Narada, ST09 06 - Bassen Rift, Nemesis 05 - Sector 001, First Contact 04 - First of DS9, Deep Space 9 03 - Second of Chin'toka, Deep Space 9 02 - Wolf 359, TNG/DS9 01 - Frontier Day, Picard Yes, I did omit the Mutara Nebula... it was awesome but I prefer the scale of the battles
Some people prefer grand fleet battles a la Star Wars or DS9 or a video game. And some like a one-on-one Mano e Mano duel. Personally, I love both Enterprise vs. Reliant and Balance of Terror. Enterprise A & Excelsior vs. General Chang was pretty epic too.
One of the California class ships was named after the city of Vacaville, the hometown of Lower Decks star Tammy Newsome (and where I graduated from High School). Outside of the San Francisco-Sacramento area, Vacaville is quite obscure.
I find it funny how you're wearing a Battlestar Galactica T-Shirt, in a Star Trek video. 6:46 It's more like Star Wars: Return of the Jedi in my opinion.
The Mutara Nebula battle is superb! I’m half convinced that most SF uses aerial dogfights as a model for their space battles. The Mutara Nebula Battle in Wrath of Khan … ? Is a submarine battle: and gorgeous … ! (Oh, that Vi[er’s a very good example of what I mean: it’s an intergalactic Spitfire, launched from an aircraft carrier)
Nice Viper fighter shirt, Sean! Actually, The D's trench run in Picard was more like the Millennium Falcon's attack on the second Death Star in the Return of the Jedi.
The Battle of the Mutara Nebula may boast 3D tactics.... but its still rooted in 2D since the Enterprise had to ascend from behind the Reliant to be on a 2D plane with it once again. This also compounds the problem by giving them a much smaller target How 3D tactics SHOULD have been is - move down below, look up from underneath (presenting yourself with the largest target to aim for), and then just hammer away. Less risk of your shots missing (especially if you matched speed with the ship above), and more vulnerable vital systems to aim for. Hell, the first torpedo could potentially hit the Warp Core, destroying the ship and Genesis with it. Now I can hear someone saying "but that would have caused a Warp Core Breach that would have destroyed the Enterprise too", but never in the history of Star Trek has destroying the ship with weapons fire (even by aiming at the warp core) caused that big of a blast. Its only if the warp core breaches AFTER a battle that such explosions happen. Technically, every destroyed ship EVER should produce a massive antimatter explosion, but that's not very convenient for the writers LOL
Speaking of which, didn’t the admiral in charge of those bother to learn history, mainly the M5 computer war game incident? As in the Ultimate Computer from the original series. Pretty sure that alone would’ve told him what a bad idea that was.
Enterprise A and Excelsior vs Chang's Bird of Prey Mirror Defiant vs Mirror Negh'Var Battle of Cardassia And the best, Enterprise-E vs Scimitar. You already mentioned the Mutara Nebula, I'd also add Voyager-A vs Rev1
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is what made me fall in love of Star Trek. I recall seeing TOS reruns on CBC Sundays at noon in the early 80s before STII, but I was just a kid and didn't like the look of the show at that time (it took me years later as an adult watching it to appreciate it, knowing the context of what was going on IRL in the late 60s). Anyway, back to my main point. I was only 10 in 1982, we, as a family, packed into our Toyota Corolla for a dusk 'til dawn drive-in, with STII being the second movie being shown that night. I was so enthralled with the movie and then I wanted to gobble up more Star Trek. Still tried to watch TOS at that time, but couldn't get into it. But, after that movie, I have seen every other movie and series immediately upon release, even the ones that I didn't enjoy so much (yet have rewatched with my GF). To this day, it is still my favorite ST movie, the story and visuals still hold up over 40 years later. First Contact is my second favorite ST film.
Why? How exciting is a war where you never see the enemy and the war is fought with atomic weapons on atomic powered craft? NOW I could make it work. By saying that’s what earth has to fight with because they don’t have enough ships But current writers are too busy along Star Wars to make Star Trek
The Wrath of Kahn gave us the death of Spock; arguably the most iconic character in Star Trek. Though they brought him back in the Search for Spock we also saw the death of the Enterprise. Those two movies are still my favorites. And the One With the Whales (but for different reasons).
Imagine if Deep Space Nine would have had the budget for a grand finale between the Dominion and the Federation. This could have been one the most epic final stand battles ever in the history of Star Trek 🖖
The greatest battle in all of Star Trek history is the same one that prevented a war, Balance Of Terror. We may not get exterior visuals but we certainly see and feel the destructive potential of the weapons on both sides.
#10- the later means of escape by the Enterprise from the black hole that devoured the Narada seems lifted from the Star Trek novel Prime Directive when Jim Kirk's Enterprise was trapped in the atmosphere of Talin IV in a wormhole. # 8 is arguable as it would depend on Who was commanding a Galaxy or Constitution class Starship then. Both Capt. James T. Kirk and Cmdr. Will Riker have shown themselves able to think out of the box. Plus, Kirk would have Mr. Spock on hand. And Jim doesn't believe in a No Win Scenario; Refer to #1 on the list.
I always thought it was dumb that the Zindi launched the test probe against Earth(obviously it was so Star Fleet wud find out) but strategically it was a really dumb decision to alert your enemy that you are attacking them when your weapon is only in its test phase and they could have tested it on any Earth size planet
Regarding the Odyssey, the writers not only used a Galaxy class ship, it was also very soon after TNG ended, AND they called on an older white slight arrogant Captain to lead the doomed ship. What a masterstroke in framing and writing.
I still have seen no good explanation for why the Narada was so heavily armed & capable in a space battle (there's some beta canon bollocks about the borg - go touch grass with that). It's a mining vessel from 139 years in the future - the idea that's is as powerful as multiple "Ships of the Line" from the earlier era is ridiculous. Timelines aside, we already know that Federation technology from that time isn't so rough - the Excelsior class served side by side with both the Constitution & the Galaxy, so why is the Narada evidently worth like 10 Constitutions?
Though I haven’t watched Lower Decks, regarding entry 9, didn’t the admiral in charge of the self piloting ships ever learn history, especially the M5 computer in The Ultimate Computer of the original series? That alone would’ve told him how bad an idea that was.
There is a school of thought that says that Star Trek was conceived as a "what the USA should become" with some added analogues to present day situations. This school of thought also says that latterly, it is showing the USA as it is rather than what it would like to be. Me, I've always liked comic book heroes who arrive in the nick-of-time and kick nether portions and win out....and if they dont win at that point then "they'll be back" bigger, bolder and with attitude. None of this wokey peace love and understanding. :-))
The Xindi arc was way too long, but I did like the way they addressed multiple intelligent species evolving on the same planet, six unique species all with intelligence but all vastly different from one another. You never had more than maybe three human species on this planet at any given time, but even if you look at the Neanderthals, homo erectus, Homo habilis, homo Heidelbergensus, and I can't even remember all of them, but they looked roughly similar. OK so some were taller, some were shorter, some had bigger heads, some had more hair, etc., but they all evolved from the same ancestral race and they all looked similar enough to each other to know it on the other hand the Xindi were so vastly different from one another that it is entirely possible they would have come from completely separate evolutionary lines, as especially considering they weren't even all the same phylum.
Its Episode VI - Return of the Jedi. It´s the core run, not the trench run. ....ah well maybe a mixture of both. But destroying the cube/death star from within is Episode VI. 🙂
so i dont care what anyone says, but the battle with all the california class ships against the autopilot texas class ships has to be a poke at the picard season 1 finale's copy and paste fleet battle, yes?
The Odyssey didn't even move! They sat in one spot and allowed the gem hadar to get em, as we see in season 3 of picard, Galaxy class ship's can move if you have the right pilot 😂
I never really liked the space battles in 09. It was always one ship getting disabled in moments then either a ramming attack, boarding action, or both. That's ok sometimes but doing it three times in one movie then repeating it in the sequel got boring fast. plus it established the precedent of Captain Kirk leaving the bridge to lead a aw team mid battle or as the Enterprise is preparing for combat. An idea I utterly hate.
The comments you make on Mutata Nebula emphasise exactly what all but one of these battle scenes was doing. Star Trek is ships fighting ships. The S3 Picard one isn't. It's very visually impressive by all means but the Enterprise is behaving like a cross between a fighter and a speedboat, which is *never* what battles in trek have been about, even for the Defiant. They're big gun ships slugging it out. The D simply isn't supposed to be able to move like that at all. No Galaxy class ship, in fact no ship in the IP as a whole is capable of that, until Picard S3 wanted the spectacle. It's a visually impressive sequence, by all means, but it is more at home in something like the fighter battles of Star wars than it is in Trek.
I have to disagree with a significant amount of this list. In my opinion, the Lower decks and Enterprise entries should be ranked much higher. The lower decks was the pay off of the Cali class being the butt of the jokes within Starfleet. Enterprise showed how blind arrogance to the dangers of going into hostile territory and how you come out on the wrong end of the stick because of it
Over 40 years later and I still sit on the edge of my seat watching the Mutara nebula battle.
The music helps !
James Horner made a masterpiece !
Can you imagine the look on Khan's face if just before the Genesis Device detonated, he glimpses the Enterprise going to warp and yells KIIIIRRRRK.
I absolutely get goosebumps when the Enterprise rises up behind Reliant and the Horner music starts spooling up.
"Cry havoc! And let slip the dogs of war!"
Alexander Rozhenko : "You want me to oil the floor?"
"Whichever farm animal of war!"
@bluediamonddirector, one of the best lines of all time!!
I prefer that line in the original Klingon.
You know the villain has been acted well, when you personally want to press the button to send the torpedo just to shut him up! 😂😂
In honor of Patti Yasutake, you should do a feature on Alyssa Ogawa's character.
What happened to Patti?
@@vic5015 she died battling cancer
Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!! :(
@@zachjohnson440 A warrior's death.
@@vic5015 she died of cancer at age 70
Sean: Here are great Trek Space Battles.
Sean's shirt: Hey, why aren't you talking about my battles?
6:45 it more so references Star Wars Episode 6, Return of the Jedi
Exactly what I was thinking and about to comment.
That episode have to be a homage to Return of the Jedi, because it aired one day before the 40th anniversary of the movie
Seán, wearing a Battlestar Galactica shirt while talking Star Trek? I Love It! I believe all the SciFi fans can Coexist! I remember, in the 70s, 80s, going to SciFi conventions long before there were "Trek" conventions.
As always, thank you all so very much for the videos.
I love all sci-fi shows from the premiere of "Next Generation" in 1987 to the end of "Battlestar Galactica" in 2009. Babylon 5, Stargate SG-1, Farscape, Andromeda, etc. The Golden Age of TV sci-fi!
The Picard episode you were referring to, with the Enterprise-D engaging the Borg, was more akin to Episode VI: The Return of the Jedi than Ep. IV: A New Hope.
They flew inside the Borg vessel, like the Millennium Falcon and the Rebel fighters did against the second Death Star over Endor's moon.
The Yamato also did something like that in Be Forever Yamato. Flew inside a giant skeletal metal planet and destroyed the core world portion of it with the Wave Motion gun. The resulting detonation ended up destroying a galaxy in the process.
#1 is possibly the best scored battle, as well. The score for the entire film was brilliant, and does NOT get the credit it so deserves.
I totally agree. You can listen to James Horner's score in ST II:TWOK and follow along with the Battle of the Mutara Nebula without even looking at the screen. This score was James Horner's magnum opus; it was glorious.
James Horner actually makes a cameo as an enlisted trainee on the Enterprise, he’s seen walking down a corridor holding a long tool with a light on one end. (I believe it’s after Kirk returns to the ship from the Genesis Cave and they are calling everyone to battle stations).
James Horner is ofc the best. But I never noticed he appeared as a cameo.
"tickle us do we not laugh. prick us do we not bleed. wrong us do we not revenge"-Gen. Chang
Glad you included Lower Decks. I am also a big fan of the battle near the end of Season 2 in “wej Duj”.
I remember the first time I saw "The Jem'Hadar", how utterly horrified and shocked I was when the Odyssey blew. At that time, the Galaxy class was the Federation's toughest ship, and they took it out so easily. I remember just staring with bugged-out eye and my jaw on the ground when it happened, unable to believe what I had just seen. I was in my younger teens at the time, and had never heard of the concept of a suicide run.
The Omarion Nebula Massacre had such a great setup, but I was disappointed we didn't see the rest of it. We only saw a tiny amount, and then the Defiant swooped in, got our buds, and left. I really would've liked to see more of the battle itself.
As for the rebuilt Enterprise-D, I had a mild continuity nag. When the Enterprise-D saucer crashed on Veridian III, the bridge module had received some heavy upgrades after the non-events of "All Good Things" (because they didn't actually happen, thanks to Q.). So, unless Geordi was being nostalgic, I don't understand why the bridge would have been reverted to the 2360s model.
That's easy to answer, The bridge is a swappable module (next gen tech manual) so when the upgraded bridge for the generations movie got trashed during the crash landing of the saucer it wasn't the same bridge module.
The old one still existed.
@@FirstDan2000 Thank you. I have that book, but I'd forgotten that bridge modules were modular.
Ha! Sean's wearing a Colonial Viper shirt while talking about Star Trek...nice!😂
Mubarak Nebula and Wolf 359 (even if it basically occurs offscreen) are gold. The latter got Starfleet to take security seriously and gave us the Defiant.
Entry 4 forgets a very pivotal plot twist: Cmdr. Deanna Troi -- who managed to safely land the original Enterprise-D saucer section on Veridian III -- senses her husband (and also her ex-boyfriend) and manoeuvres the newly-rebuilt 1701-D à la Tokyo Drift when she takes the helm. Yeah, that was a SCENE!
I have a projector at home, but I got the chance last year to watch wrath of khan in the cinema, well worth it! There’s a reason it’s up there on everyone’s favourite trek list
Space battles are nasty. It's not like you can get out of the way. It's odd, in a way, how casually our hero cast takes it when they have "a hull breech on decks 11 and 12." That means Bob in HR just got blown out towards Arcturus.
That's what the emergency force fields are for.
In honor of the shirt you are wearing, whatculture should have a channel dedicated to scifi TV that isn't StarTrek. There is so much science fiction TV from the 70s, 80s, 90s.
Good battles don't always happen in space. DS9 had some good ground battles. That battle where Nog lost his leg and the one where Jake gets scared come to mind.
Way Of The Warrior.
Call To Arms
Sacrifice Of Angels
I've also got a soft spot for the battle in Basics, Pt.1
YESSSS MORE TREK CULTURE
Oh man, Sean's t-shirt hit me right in the nostalgia ... good ol' 1978 Vipers :D
Can you put a link in the description for the first list perhaps?
ruclips.net/video/lnVVMbs-e6I/видео.html
Be careful, you'll find a lot of people bitching about how their precious Mutara Nebula battle wasn't #1 on the list LOL
Still gets the onions cuting seeing the resurrected Enterprise-D back, kicking bottom or what!!! :D
One of my favourites is Voyager vs the Vaadwaur. And actually the battle at the Caretakers Array was pretty good too
That engine they use in the modern trek for the space shots is epic!! And i am a massive practical effect guy but dam its good!
I love your t-shirt! If I'm not bad with mistaken that is a viper from the 1970s series, not the reboot in the 2000s....
I remember watching as it originally aired when the Oddesy was destroyed by the J'em Hedar ship in a Komikozy ( probably spelled that wrong) run. I was absolutely shocked!
For future reference, it's spelled kamikaze. It means Divine wind in Japanese.
I think the Enterprise-D’s trench run compares more closely to Episode VI than to Episode IV…
Kelvin Vs Narada, and the Battle in the Mutara Nebula are my favorites.
The Battle Near Xahea currently will always be the best Star Trek battle. A nearly episode long battle? Nothing can compare.
"No Kirk, the games not over" and then the Genesis wave readings from Enterprise, just fantastic. Oh and is it just me or does the Genesis wave image look more than a little similar to the molecule in Voyagers The Omega Directive..
I've got my personal top 10:
10 - Such Sweet Sorrow, Discovery
09 - Yorktown, Beyond
08 - Douglas Station, Lower Decks
07 - Enterprise vs Narada, ST09
06 - Bassen Rift, Nemesis
05 - Sector 001, First Contact
04 - First of DS9, Deep Space 9
03 - Second of Chin'toka, Deep Space 9
02 - Wolf 359, TNG/DS9
01 - Frontier Day, Picard
Yes, I did omit the Mutara Nebula... it was awesome but I prefer the scale of the battles
Brilliant list!!!
Some people prefer grand fleet battles a la Star Wars or DS9 or a video game. And some like a one-on-one Mano e Mano duel. Personally, I love both Enterprise vs. Reliant and Balance of Terror. Enterprise A & Excelsior vs. General Chang was pretty epic too.
One of the California class ships was named after the city of Vacaville, the hometown of Lower Decks star Tammy Newsome (and where I graduated from High School). Outside of the San Francisco-Sacramento area, Vacaville is quite obscure.
LOVE the classic BSG Viper!
I find it funny how you're wearing a Battlestar Galactica T-Shirt, in a Star Trek video.
6:46 It's more like Star Wars: Return of the Jedi in my opinion.
12:56 - THE greatest moment in Star Trek history. The battle, the aftermath and that closing scene.
Perfection! 🤩 😍
The Mutara Nebula battle is superb!
I’m half convinced that most SF uses aerial dogfights as a model for their space battles.
The Mutara Nebula Battle in Wrath of Khan … ?
Is a submarine battle: and gorgeous … !
(Oh, that Vi[er’s a very good example of what I mean: it’s an intergalactic Spitfire, launched from an aircraft carrier)
Nice Viper fighter shirt, Sean!
Actually, The D's trench run in Picard was more like the Millennium Falcon's attack on the second Death Star in the Return of the Jedi.
Great to see you at the Star Trek Convention in Las Vegas. LLAP 🖖
The Battle of the Mutara Nebula may boast 3D tactics.... but its still rooted in 2D since the Enterprise had to ascend from behind the Reliant to be on a 2D plane with it once again. This also compounds the problem by giving them a much smaller target
How 3D tactics SHOULD have been is - move down below, look up from underneath (presenting yourself with the largest target to aim for), and then just hammer away. Less risk of your shots missing (especially if you matched speed with the ship above), and more vulnerable vital systems to aim for. Hell, the first torpedo could potentially hit the Warp Core, destroying the ship and Genesis with it.
Now I can hear someone saying "but that would have caused a Warp Core Breach that would have destroyed the Enterprise too", but never in the history of Star Trek has destroying the ship with weapons fire (even by aiming at the warp core) caused that big of a blast. Its only if the warp core breaches AFTER a battle that such explosions happen. Technically, every destroyed ship EVER should produce a massive antimatter explosion, but that's not very convenient for the writers LOL
As a native Texan, the Texas Class ships of LOWER DECKS Season 3 hurt my aging Star Trekking heart.😢😩😫💔
Speaking of which, didn’t the admiral in charge of those bother to learn history, mainly the M5 computer war game incident? As in the Ultimate Computer from the original series. Pretty sure that alone would’ve told him what a bad idea that was.
@@whitewolf3051 obviously not.
Yeah it was basically the state of California taking pot shots at the State of Texas
The beach boys?! I seen the Beastie Boys one but didn’t know about that one?
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Enterprise A and Excelsior vs Chang's Bird of Prey
Mirror Defiant vs Mirror Negh'Var
Battle of Cardassia
And the best, Enterprise-E vs Scimitar.
You already mentioned the Mutara Nebula, I'd also add Voyager-A vs Rev1
I would say the Enterprise D Trench run was more akin to the attack on the 2nd Deathstar in Return of the Jedi when the Falcon flies into it
Not a space battle, but the war on J'Gal from SNW S2E8 is on my list.
Bruh... I love the old school Viper shirt
Great stuff as usual! Now, back to my dissertation...
Greatest battle we didn't saw on screen: Mr Worf giving a bath to Spot
My favorite is still the Reliant vs Enterprise
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is what made me fall in love of Star Trek. I recall seeing TOS reruns on CBC Sundays at noon in the early 80s before STII, but I was just a kid and didn't like the look of the show at that time (it took me years later as an adult watching it to appreciate it, knowing the context of what was going on IRL in the late 60s). Anyway, back to my main point. I was only 10 in 1982, we, as a family, packed into our Toyota Corolla for a dusk 'til dawn drive-in, with STII being the second movie being shown that night. I was so enthralled with the movie and then I wanted to gobble up more Star Trek. Still tried to watch TOS at that time, but couldn't get into it. But, after that movie, I have seen every other movie and series immediately upon release, even the ones that I didn't enjoy so much (yet have rewatched with my GF). To this day, it is still my favorite ST movie, the story and visuals still hold up over 40 years later. First Contact is my second favorite ST film.
We Need an Enterprise season 5 just to get the Earth Romulan war
Why? How exciting is a war where you never see the enemy and the war is fought with atomic weapons on atomic powered craft?
NOW I could make it work. By saying that’s what earth has to fight with because they don’t have enough ships
But current writers are too busy along Star Wars to make Star Trek
Almost certainly won't happen. The cast has moved on abd is doing other things. I think Scott Bakula is on one of the 10,000 NCIS shows.
I would have thought that the fight over the dessert tray by the cast on long shooting days.
I do love the t-shirt Sean.....a hint of the. Battlestar culture to come?
Well, my complaint about Wrath not in the first video remains, BUT at least it got a moment
Next installment should include the “Doomsday Machine”.
Another great list. 😊
i got more Death Star 2 trench run than DS1 from the Picard Borg battle
The Wrath of Kahn gave us the death of Spock; arguably the most iconic character in Star Trek. Though they brought him back in the Search for Spock we also saw the death of the Enterprise. Those two movies are still my favorites.
And the One With the Whales (but for different reasons).
Imagine if Deep Space Nine would have had the budget for a grand finale between the Dominion and the Federation. This could have been one the most epic final stand battles ever in the history of Star Trek 🖖
Thanks. 🖖🏻
The greatest battle in all of Star Trek history is the same one that prevented a war, Balance Of Terror. We may not get exterior visuals but we certainly see and feel the destructive potential of the weapons on both sides.
#10- the later means of escape by the Enterprise from the black hole that devoured the Narada seems lifted from the Star Trek novel Prime Directive when Jim Kirk's Enterprise was trapped in the atmosphere of Talin IV in a wormhole.
# 8 is arguable as it would depend on Who was commanding a Galaxy or Constitution class Starship then.
Both Capt. James T. Kirk and Cmdr. Will Riker have shown themselves able to think out of the box. Plus, Kirk would have Mr. Spock on hand. And Jim doesn't believe in a No Win Scenario; Refer to #1 on the list.
I would love to see the battles that involved the species in "Booby Trap" - plus the chance of seeing the actress Susan Gibney again.
The USS Cerritos may not be the Enterprise, but she is as much of a Badass ship as the Enterprise.
According to the Pakleds, it is the Enterprise. Led by Captain Janeway.
@@genericasian lmfao 😂😂😂. Oh no , it's another Enterprise 😂😂😂😂
This whole GD list can be from DS9 😅
AMEN 😂
The enterprise e was there at the construct battle that's what In Picard worf said that is not my fault 🤣
The multi-pronged assault on the Vaadwaur homeworld in Star Trek Online (YES, I'M BACK ON MY STO ADVOCACY, lol).
It feels like more like a episode 6 reference than episode 4..
I’m sure you meant that the Enterprise-D’s Borg cube battle was a Return of the Jedi reference and not an episode 4 reference.
is that a Colonial Viper in the shirt?
I always thought it was dumb that the Zindi launched the test probe against Earth(obviously it was so Star Fleet wud find out) but strategically it was a really dumb decision to alert your enemy that you are attacking them when your weapon is only in its test phase and they could have tested it on any Earth size planet
And in lower decks the. Ships was powered by BADGEY of all things
Regarding the Odyssey, the writers not only used a Galaxy class ship, it was also very soon after TNG ended, AND they called on an older white slight arrogant Captain to lead the doomed ship. What a masterstroke in framing and writing.
Day of the Dove? Elaan of Troyius?
Best ground battle is the seige of 558
It was likely one of thoe thigns that wouldn't have worked with a more-expereinced opponant. Kirk was REALLY good at that.
Wait what about Mariner vs Locarno?
I still have seen no good explanation for why the Narada was so heavily armed & capable in a space battle (there's some beta canon bollocks about the borg - go touch grass with that).
It's a mining vessel from 139 years in the future - the idea that's is as powerful as multiple "Ships of the Line" from the earlier era is ridiculous. Timelines aside, we already know that Federation technology from that time isn't so rough - the Excelsior class served side by side with both the Constitution & the Galaxy, so why is the Narada evidently worth like 10 Constitutions?
Is it a Episode 4 reference? I've always felt is was more of a RotJ homage
Can we have 10 Greatest Battles in BSG History, with you wearing an Enterprise T-shirt? So say we all! 😂😂😂
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Though I haven’t watched Lower Decks, regarding entry 9, didn’t the admiral in charge of the self piloting ships ever learn history, especially the M5 computer in The Ultimate Computer of the original series? That alone would’ve told him how bad an idea that was.
Was the battle in the changing face of evil in part 1 ????
The greatest battle ever in Star Trek history is Worf trying to get back his "Greatest Poker Player Ever" title after Section 31 stole it from him.
There is a school of thought that says that Star Trek was conceived as a "what the USA should become" with some added analogues to present day situations. This school of thought also says that latterly, it is showing the USA as it is rather than what it would like to be.
Me, I've always liked comic book heroes who arrive in the nick-of-time and kick nether portions and win out....and if they dont win at that point then "they'll be back" bigger, bolder and with attitude. None of this wokey peace love and understanding. :-))
The Xindi arc was way too long, but I did like the way they addressed multiple intelligent species evolving on the same planet, six unique species all with intelligence but all vastly different from one another. You never had more than maybe three human species on this planet at any given time, but even if you look at the Neanderthals, homo erectus, Homo habilis, homo Heidelbergensus, and I can't even remember all of them, but they looked roughly similar. OK so some were taller, some were shorter, some had bigger heads, some had more hair, etc., but they all evolved from the same ancestral race and they all looked similar enough to each other to know it on the other hand the Xindi were so vastly different from one another that it is entirely possible they would have come from completely separate evolutionary lines, as especially considering they weren't even all the same phylum.
Its Episode VI - Return of the Jedi. It´s the core run, not the trench run. ....ah well maybe a mixture of both. But destroying the cube/death star from within is Episode VI. 🙂
Ent-D's Hallway Scene...
so i dont care what anyone says, but the battle with all the california class ships against the autopilot texas class ships has to be a poke at the picard season 1 finale's copy and paste fleet battle, yes?
Knowingly references A New Hope? You mean Return of the Jedi?
The Odyssey didn't even move! They sat in one spot and allowed the gem hadar to get em, as we see in season 3 of picard, Galaxy class ship's can move if you have the right pilot 😂
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I never really liked the space battles in 09. It was always one ship getting disabled in moments then either a ramming attack, boarding action, or both. That's ok sometimes but doing it three times in one movie then repeating it in the sequel got boring fast. plus it established the precedent of Captain Kirk leaving the bridge to lead a aw team mid battle or as the Enterprise is preparing for combat. An idea I utterly hate.
JJ Drek didn't envigirate a damn thing
charge those pew pew pew phasers
7:30 Wasn't it BEASTIE BOYS and not Beach Boys?
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The comments you make on Mutata Nebula emphasise exactly what all but one of these battle scenes was doing.
Star Trek is ships fighting ships. The S3 Picard one isn't. It's very visually impressive by all means but the Enterprise is behaving like a cross between a fighter and a speedboat, which is *never* what battles in trek have been about, even for the Defiant.
They're big gun ships slugging it out. The D simply isn't supposed to be able to move like that at all. No Galaxy class ship, in fact no ship in the IP as a whole is capable of that, until Picard S3 wanted the spectacle.
It's a visually impressive sequence, by all means, but it is more at home in something like the fighter battles of Star wars than it is in Trek.
Uh.... you mean Episode 6? Return of the Jedi? This was not a trench run. it was an attack on the central reactor of the death star...... cube..
#9 is a copy/paste fleet finale done right.
I have to disagree with a significant amount of this list. In my opinion, the Lower decks and Enterprise entries should be ranked much higher.
The lower decks was the pay off of the Cali class being the butt of the jokes within Starfleet.
Enterprise showed how blind arrogance to the dangers of going into hostile territory and how you come out on the wrong end of the stick because of it