Homelander's reaction to Ryan to the crowd shows he knows how overwhelming the powers can be, so he behaves like a understanding father figure for the first time since meeting Ryan and gets him out of there as fast as possible. It doesn't make up for all he's done, but I think it's a glimpse to what Homelander could've been if he was raised like a child and not a science experiment
@@michaelangelo1787 Antony Starr didn't write Homelander's character, he played it so it's obvious that he won't sympathise with Homelander as much as the writer and the audience would
@@michaelangelo1787 i dont think shes denying Homelander being a bad person but more so about him being this way because he was basically a labrat. Homelander isn't inherently evil, he was bred to be a weapon with NO affection whatsoever.
Wow, I've never heard of this "The Boys" show before, I guess it must be a wholesome show about a divorced superhero dad trying to balance work, a romantic life, and his relationship with his son.
Thanks, you seriously made me chuckle! Now I think about how you could take scenes from other series and totally think of an other story in the series than the actual one.
@@bjbrooks6659 I disagree. I think he genuinely cares about Ryan in his own fucked up way. Homelander's a sociopath who cannot form bonds or empathize with humans, he considers them lesser beings. Ryan's different, he's a supe and his son.
@@nikolakaravida4087 Sociopaths (Which isn’t an actual clinically term) refers to individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD). People with ASPD are more than capable of forming numerous emotional connections with other people. I think what you see with home lander, (let me be clear, I’m not diagnosing him, only stating what I think is likely in his situation), is factor 1 psychopathy, narcissistic personality disorder, and ASPD. Only very few individuals with psychopathy have been shown to form very slight emotional connections with other people. So homelander could be one of those individuals UPDATE: Upon doing further research into the topic, psychopaths are born, not created. So homelander would be a sociopath. But everything else I said is still true.
This scene makes Ryan choosing Billy over Homelander SO much more painful. You can tell HL really wants to be a dad. He wants to be the parent he never had. Problem is he just doesn’t have those skills and instincts yet. He’s struggling to let out his warmth after a lifetime of it being smothered and repressed. And then his son chooses his actual biggest enemy over him. Over his best efforts. Yeah. Homielanders gonna go insane.
I want to see him snap soooo bad. I hope he'll bring titan level destruction like in megamind. But first in order for that to happen, there must be someone he can go toe to toe with to stop him. Ryan maybe.
This showed that he isn't used to his powers. Reminds me of that scene in daredevil after Matt woke up after the chemicals blinded him. All the noise drove him crazy at first and gave him the mother of all headaches until he got used to it. Ryan's the same way in this scene. He's hearing everything and his mind can't process it. Also he's not used to being around so many people so he's got social anxiety too.
oh no don't remind me about that movie haha and yeah or when Zod in Superman got his powers for the first time and they all flooded him at once and he got overwhelmed.
@@AidanDownes_KH that one too. But this was bound to happen bc of his sheltered lifestyle. Some of ryans powers he honestly can't turn off. His hearing is one of them. They should've told Ryan about his powers sooner so that way he could learn to control them. It's like convincing a lion that it's a house cat but when the cat gets mad or hungry. It kills its owner without meaning too.
The first scene that came to my mind was the flashback scene from Man of Steel. Where Clark's powers go haywire at school & he hides in the janitor's closest. He's only able to get it under control after his mom comes & get him to focus solely on her voice.
Ryan might be the only one that he actually considers a person, plus I’m sure Homelander has some kind of sympathy for him given his own messed up childhood
Noone is invincible even someone with no remorse, Homelander cannot be harmed by weapons or humans, even supes but he can emotionally harmed and can be outsmarted.
damn that part where he sees ryan is not ok and asks for his mom and doesnt try to talk him out of it and is just like ok buddy we can leave and he just really gently carries him out is very polite to everyone around ......its like underneath that mountain of narciscism ego and cruelty, there is SOME humanity in him
omfg god... not this use of the term 'humanity' why do most ppl. always associate 'humanity' with something positive, noble or being able to empathise/sympathise... everything about the evil that humans commit is just as human as doing something good but of course ppl wont use the term like that.... humanity is fcked up... plain and simple.
You aren't wrong, the thing is that Homelander does lack humanity. The idea of humanity comes from human behavior. With your logic, ANYTHING is "humanity". Being a sociopath who is okay with and actively wants to kill people, and rape people, and ruin people's lives and be an overall terrible person. Humanity is mostly about emotion. Someone who lacks all emotion would be seen as "inhuman". Only ever being sad, only every being angry, only every being happy, only ever being indifferent would be inhuman, since humans are supposed to experience the full range of emotions, including more complex emotions like love, compassion, disgust, etc. Homelander tends to lack in the happiness, compassion, and love department, and if you ket anyone who has no compassion, love, or happiness, you would call them inhuman, too.
@@elistari1050 nobody ever uses that term of 'humanity' in context to someone like Homelander... humans just love to generalise something or someone that is different to the usual boundaries and 'inhuman' is just another st1pid term to differentiate others
@@elistari1050 and haven't you watched the show including Diabolical EP. 8 about Homelander... how tf does he lack the emotions that you've listed... if you want to talk about happiness then him killing others would be considered as happiness for him but you and i dont know what goes in his head... he clearly wants love for himself mainly but can feel compassion for others such as his son or empathise for him since he does relate to his son a lot and wants his son to not be raised the same way as John (aka Homelander) did
I think the most telling part is Homelander is aware of how powerful he is and tell everyone to back off before he takes off. He is capable of being conscious of his strength but he chooses not to.
Homelander not insulting Ryan's mom in front of him actually shows some improvement, he's not just thinking about himself he's thinking about Ryan and how that would make him feel. Edit: man I was pretty damn wrong lol
The tragedy of his character is how he had the potential to be a good human being. I think 99% of children with he upbringing that he had would turn out like this. Or far worse
Nah he’s just trying to not piss off Ryan. It’s the same way he says what he thinks the public wants to here and craves high public approval ratings like our craven President and politicians.
2:32 such an oddly touching moment. Homelander goes straight into dad mode when he notices how scared Ryan is. Then later he confesses to him that he once struggled with being in crowds too…it’s kind of sad that he’ll never be a man capable of raising and loving Ryan properly.
@@plankthereturn oh man, that totally bypassed me, literally the first sentence in the video too... I've never seen cats, I've heard it was horrendous tho.
That first "you okay?" seems so genuine, it's nice to see Homelander actually be nice for once. Sure, he's cool when he's psychopathic and evil, but seeing him put aside his fame and glory for his son was actually very heartwarming to see.
You can hate Homelander as much as you want but you can't deny the fact that he actually cared for his son, for a short time, but he really cared in his own way
He himself is a child through and through. Yet it was definitely strange to see Homelander look at his kid and go "Here.... Let's just go." instead of telling him to try and get used to it, or that he deserves attention too as his son. A very rare of occurrence of putting someone else's feelings before his own.
Pretty cool scene where you can see that homelander instantly stops caring about the fame and what other people think of around him in favor of his son, knowing what it's like to be in this situation for the first time with him explaining it to him in the scene later in the show.
Scenes like this and at the cabin where he says "Ryans wants to be alone right now" make me think that if Stormfront wasn't involved then Ryan may have actually salvaged some humanity from HL.
This scene made Homelander look like an actual father for second there lol. It’s sad that Homelander can’t understand what family is really about because he’s all too caught up with his glory.
@@hassantalpur6792 he meant from a writing perspective dumbass. In universe.. I guess you can say it isn't a good thing but he was saying it was a nice touch for the story.
@@zippyparakeet1074 yeah, honestly idk why I was that vitriolic, he was probably genuinely confused about what he meant. I guess I just assumed he was attacking him.
At 2:33 in the video I like how Homelander has this switch in his face when he sees Ryan. It’s so natural looking and his eyes convey a deep story of pain and empathy. The whole interaction he has in that moment really give me pain in knowing that his humanity is so detached that when it is shown it’s like a cold reminder of the world he was born in.
I think the little moments like this where Homelander comes through for Ryan, is when he’s able to relate to him. He was once a scared little kid surrounded by people too (since he was a lab baby), but when it comes to things that Homelander can’t immediately relate to, his narcissism makes him think “well, that’s something we’re gonna have to fix”, like when he pushed Ryan off the roof to try and bring out his powers.
@@cacarot6020my dad wouldn't even take me out of a crowd He would scold me instead calling me an anti social I had social anxiety that's why In a family gathering I was not feeling well and then my dad scold and insulted my in front of everyone Homelander atleast went off when Ryan was feeling bad
I like how it shows the good side of even the most terrible people on the show. Homelander genuinely wants to be a part of his sons life. And you can tell Stormfront wants to be a mother again and care for Homelanders kid. A-train is obviously going through a crisis and you feel bad for him as well. Despite all these characters have done horrendous things, they still show a soft side that makes them hard to fully hate lol. Stormfront is a NAZI, and I still find it hard to hate her character, shes such a great villain!
I can agree with the Homelander sentiment, but Stormfront wanted Ryan first and foremost for her Nazi ideals. All she does is put down Becca, and try to mold Ryan like a puppet. Homelander definitely puts down Becca, but he does occasionally say nice things about her to Becca. He wants his son to be a super, but I that's more so he and Ryan have something to bond over.
Yep the show is about moral greys Not supposed to be black and white (although there are some characters who obviously are very light grey or very dark grey)
This scene is so sad, especially after Season 4, Homelander, I feel, really did try to be a good father, but, fact is, he clearly also just sees Ryan as an extension to himself. The trauma he endured left him too broken to be able to act like a normal father, and left him a screaming man child trapped in a adult body.
It's significant that the only time Homelander acts like a genuine parent is when Ryan's powers are acting up. It's the only thing Homelander has any empathy for Ryan about, because Homelander himself likely went through something similar. In that moment, he looked at Ryan and saw his younger self, and he's such a narcissist that the only person he can show compassion to is himself.
i love how he didn’t do typical homelander things where he tried to calm him down and actually took him to becka, he actually tries to be a father to him which makes me smile (while he’s a kid)
Homelander's son is such a well mannered boy. It's hard to beleive he is his father's son. It's a shame a child like this can't have an innocent childhood either.
This is true character development. It can be difficult to give such an evil character as Homelander traits and actions that we empathize with, but here he's shown being a good dad who really cares about his son. Just makes me love this series more
Little scenes like this that show how good Homelander could have been under different circumstances. It doesn’t excuse the horrible things he does, it just makes it all the sadder.
he's BEEN in Ryan's place. He knows what being alone can do to you. He physically can't force any of this on Ryan because all of his upbringing was essentially against his will and he doesn't want that for his son. I love the inner conflict and the self preservation/trauma reflex took over his parental instinct
This is one of my favorite scenes in the entire show. Homelander is a monster. No way around that. However, its clear he wants to be a father. He wants to give Ryan what he never had. Theres no way around this. He doesn't know how to do that though, but you can clearly see he is trying. It shows how even a monster can have even a little tiny piece of good in them. However, after Ryan chooses to go with Butcher, that was the moment every little bit of hope Homelander had about being a father and have something nice, was ripped away from him, and then we get the Homelander in season 3 that just doesn't care anymore.
I really feel like Ryan is the only person keeping Homelander from going completely insane. If something happens and Ryan is killed, Homelander will destroy the world as he destroys himself.
This was a pretty neat way to show that yes even narcissists like Homelander are capable of some empathy. Well their self preservation tends to always come first. But they have moments.
I love that despite all the despicable actions Homelander has done in the series, he’s genuinely trying his best to a good father for Ryan in this clip. He tries to take him out eat a restaurant but when he sees his son isn’t feeling well because of the crowd and his heightened hearing, he escorts Ryan out cause he knows how overwhelming it is at that age putting Ryan’s safety and well being above his own time in the spotlight which we know he absolutely loves. Arguably Ryan did help bring out the best in Homelander
Oh my god, is Homelander being a good role model for his son, this actually makes me like Homelander a little bit, he seems so kind around his son even though we all know what he does when his son isn’t around
The scene with Ryan and his reaction to the crowd and its noise just shows that even Homelander can have some humanity left in there deep within such a dark tragic soul.. and ofc that scene with Doppleganger and Homelanders *gasp* when he starts to change from Stilwell is so perfect and hilariously relatable on a humanely primitive level lol
I mean ok sure, every serial killer can be just as loving but it doesn't make him a good person, he's still a psychopath incarnate. The only problem is it isn't all homelander's fault. He was raised by people who only cared about what he could do for them. In an absolute loveless environment, where he's never had hardships that life brings. Most likely he did get every single thing he wanted without discipline. He was brought up to be exactly this person, so I don't blame him too much. But even with all that it seems in his own twisted way he actually cares for his son.
I don't know if this was there intention but as a sufferer of autism this legit felt like a perfect depiction of both sensory overload and autistic meltdown
Feel like this is the only scene in the whole of the boys where we see Homelander acting like a normal, balanced, caring human being thinking of someone else instead of himself
It's so odd. Homelander is trying to convert to his way of things, yet Ryan changes something in Homelander, brings out whatever good is/was left in him. He genuinely cares that Ryan was panicking, and got him out of that situation. Homelander is irredeemable, without a doubt. But it's like when it comes to Ryan, we can see a phantom of the hero/person Homelander could have been. It doesn't excuse a single thing he has done, but let's remember: Homelander wasn't born, he was created, by Vought.
It’s sad because if Homelander grew up with a real family that taught him right from wrong he’d be a real hero like Alex. You can see here he puts away his childish need to be adored to help Ryan, he asked if he was ok. He understood how he was feeling, he truly dose care for Ryan and no one else
You know, that's one of the things I find really interesting about sociopaths, when compared to psychopaths. Although the two should be incapable of feeling empathy, in some situations sociopaths can feel something close to empathy for someone and even feel bad about hurting or doing some kind of harm to them. The series managed to represent that in Homelander in a very good and coherent way with Ryan. You can clearly see, as the narrative progresses and how it's built, that Homelander eventually starts to really seem to care about Ryan and his well being in some moments, despite being a narcissistic sociopath (That happens because of some things the narrative has built into his character, but the most important ones in my opinion would be: Homelander's desperation for love and connections with people + the fact that he see himself and part of his own pain in Ryan).
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Homelander's reaction to Ryan to the crowd shows he knows how overwhelming the powers can be, so he behaves like a understanding father figure for the first time since meeting Ryan and gets him out of there as fast as possible. It doesn't make up for all he's done, but I think it's a glimpse to what Homelander could've been if he was raised like a child and not a science experiment
There are a couple of scenes in the Boys that make me feel so bad for Homelander.
@@heatheri9724 Antony Starr mentioned before; even if you know his tragic backstory, NEVER feel sorry for Homelander.
he was purposely raised that way so he wouldn't be another soldierboy
@@michaelangelo1787 Antony Starr didn't write Homelander's character, he played it so it's obvious that he won't sympathise with Homelander as much as the writer and the audience would
@@michaelangelo1787 i dont think shes denying Homelander being a bad person but more so about him being this way because he was basically a labrat. Homelander isn't inherently evil, he was bred to be a weapon with NO affection whatsoever.
With how well he is treating Ryan here you almost forget he pushed him of the roof that one time
It was just a 20ft drop, nothing too bad
I don't.
@@megabladechronicles962 at less than the age of 10 probably lmao
@@megabladechronicles962 it probably hurt as much as falling off of the couch or something tho lol. Minus the scratches.
It builds character
My dad did it all the time and now I have severe brain damage and have broken almost every bone in my body.
Wow, I've never heard of this "The Boys" show before, I guess it must be a wholesome show about a divorced superhero dad trying to balance work, a romantic life, and his relationship with his son.
It's not really about that... But it is a Nice show, you should see it.
Joke comment, but that’d be fairly interesting to watch
Yes... That... Is what it is...
Thanks, you seriously made me chuckle!
Now I think about how you could take scenes from other series and totally think of an other story in the series than the actual one.
No It's about this version of the justice league that's seriously messed up
Wow Homelander seems like an actual human being here
Agreed
He just thinks he can be a “father”.. and shows what he thinks the father would say/do... when really he’s a marketing and branding tool, not a father
@@bjbrooks6659 I disagree. I think he genuinely cares about Ryan in his own fucked up way. Homelander's a sociopath who cannot form bonds or empathize with humans, he considers them lesser beings. Ryan's different, he's a supe and his son.
@@nikolakaravida4087 Sociopaths (Which isn’t an actual clinically term) refers to individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD). People with ASPD are more than capable of forming numerous emotional connections with other people. I think what you see with home lander, (let me be clear, I’m not diagnosing him, only stating what I think is likely in his situation), is factor 1 psychopathy, narcissistic personality disorder, and ASPD. Only very few individuals with psychopathy have been shown to form very slight emotional connections with other people. So homelander could be one of those individuals
UPDATE: Upon doing further research into the topic, psychopaths are born, not created. So homelander would be a sociopath. But everything else I said is still true.
A person is never evil in their own mind and they justify bad behavior by saying - they made me do it.
It genuinely seems like he cares for the well being of his son
He knew how it felt to be overwhelmed.
He does. In that moment. But when he’s around others, his image takes the spotlight.
@@bjbrooks6659 Also his Ego
Na homelander hates wha was done to him a kid so he can’t relate
@@chrizmartin9890 are you having a stroke mate or is that just how you type?
This scene makes Ryan choosing Billy over Homelander SO much more painful.
You can tell HL really wants to be a dad. He wants to be the parent he never had. Problem is he just doesn’t have those skills and instincts yet. He’s struggling to let out his warmth after a lifetime of it being smothered and repressed.
And then his son chooses his actual biggest enemy over him. Over his best efforts.
Yeah. Homielanders gonna go insane.
I want to see him snap soooo bad. I hope he'll bring titan level destruction like in megamind. But first in order for that to happen, there must be someone he can go toe to toe with to stop him. Ryan maybe.
@@C.lj6037 that sounds like the plot line of Invincible
@@niko-800 nah, the villain in invincible isn’t as mentally unstable as homelander and has reasons for what he does
The man is an actual fucking serial killer, Trisha.
@@IndyJacksonTT Even though he doesn't have heat vision, he seems a bit harder to escape.
This showed that he isn't used to his powers. Reminds me of that scene in daredevil after Matt woke up after the chemicals blinded him. All the noise drove him crazy at first and gave him the mother of all headaches until he got used to it. Ryan's the same way in this scene. He's hearing everything and his mind can't process it. Also he's not used to being around so many people so he's got social anxiety too.
oh no don't remind me about that movie haha and yeah or when Zod in Superman got his powers for the first time and they all flooded him at once and he got overwhelmed.
@@AidanDownes_KH that one too. But this was bound to happen bc of his sheltered lifestyle. Some of ryans powers he honestly can't turn off. His hearing is one of them. They should've told Ryan about his powers sooner so that way he could learn to control them. It's like convincing a lion that it's a house cat but when the cat gets mad or hungry. It kills its owner without meaning too.
The first scene that came to my mind was the flashback scene from Man of Steel. Where Clark's powers go haywire at school & he hides in the janitor's closest. He's only able to get it under control after his mom comes & get him to focus solely on her voice.
Its like superman as a kid who was overwhelmed by his enhanced senses in man of steel
Or the scene in X-Men when professor x uses cerebro for the first time and the pain of the world overwhelms him
What's this?? Homelander being a kind and understanding parent?!
It's weird isn't it?
Ryan might be the only one that he actually considers a person, plus I’m sure Homelander has some kind of sympathy for him given his own messed up childhood
@@furionmax7824 agreed
He loves only himself and His children
@@skullyjones8234 children with superpowers or are very similar to him
Ryan brought out the best in Homelander
@Look How They Massacred My RUclips A takeover of Washington methinks (there's still time for them to use some of the comic's storylines)
Noone is invincible even someone with no remorse, Homelander cannot be harmed by weapons or humans, even supes but he can emotionally harmed and can be outsmarted.
It aint much but its honest work
Now it’s the other way around
@@lewisguhe6283Apparently he can be harmed by both
I like how he really takes care of him.
José Saavedra maybe he could of been a good father if he wasn’t so messed up.
I think if he was around Ryan more he would become a person and you can that in the scenes they are in together
He called him a little shit
@@wasdminecraft7680 Neh, he was just anger
Yeah I highly doubt that lol
Ashley about to be balding HARD by season 3 with all the stress she's under
Ashley and Ryan have been treated badly in this season
So... she’s death
She’s gonna be bald by the opening of season 3
@@memoschreiberdeunanue3702 what? You make no sense
Lol she’s not bald at all and end of the first ep we see her take off a wig
damn that part where he sees ryan is not ok and asks for his mom and doesnt try to talk him out of it and is just like ok buddy we can leave and he just really gently carries him out is very polite to everyone around ......its like underneath that mountain of narciscism ego and cruelty, there is SOME humanity in him
Yeah, if only he was actually raised like a kid
omfg god... not this use of the term 'humanity' why do most ppl. always associate 'humanity' with something positive, noble or being able to empathise/sympathise... everything about the evil that humans commit is just as human as doing something good but of course ppl wont use the term like that.... humanity is fcked up... plain and simple.
You aren't wrong, the thing is that Homelander does lack humanity. The idea of humanity comes from human behavior. With your logic, ANYTHING is "humanity". Being a sociopath who is okay with and actively wants to kill people, and rape people, and ruin people's lives and be an overall terrible person. Humanity is mostly about emotion. Someone who lacks all emotion would be seen as "inhuman". Only ever being sad, only every being angry, only every being happy, only ever being indifferent would be inhuman, since humans are supposed to experience the full range of emotions, including more complex emotions like love, compassion, disgust, etc. Homelander tends to lack in the happiness, compassion, and love department, and if you ket anyone who has no compassion, love, or happiness, you would call them inhuman, too.
@@elistari1050 nobody ever uses that term of 'humanity' in context to someone like Homelander... humans just love to generalise something or someone that is different to the usual boundaries and 'inhuman' is just another st1pid term to differentiate others
@@elistari1050 and haven't you watched the show including Diabolical EP. 8 about Homelander... how tf does he lack the emotions that you've listed... if you want to talk about happiness then him killing others would be considered as happiness for him but you and i dont know what goes in his head... he clearly wants love for himself mainly but can feel compassion for others such as his son or empathise for him since he does relate to his son a lot and wants his son to not be raised the same way as John (aka Homelander) did
Daannnng homelander said excuse me instead of just lasering everyone and yelling "GET BACK!" ??
Public appearance
@@thiccspooder586 Exactly, these people weren’t about to die in a plane crash lol.
I think the most telling part is Homelander is aware of how powerful he is and tell everyone to back off before he takes off. He is capable of being conscious of his strength but he chooses not to.
It’s not just bc he was in public , he wouldn’t want his son to see him doing that either
@@MK-fm3ln nope, he doesnt care what Ryan sees
Of course Homelander loves the Black Noir themed shake.
Big black noir
Black black 😂
@@cacarot6020 ok kid
Apparently all women like that nowadays as well
@@Nemenis That's technically his name. Noir means black in french.
Homelander not insulting Ryan's mom in front of him actually shows some improvement, he's not just thinking about himself he's thinking about Ryan and how that would make him feel.
Edit: man I was pretty damn wrong lol
The tragedy of his character is how he had the potential to be a good human being. I think 99% of children with he upbringing that he had would turn out like this. Or far worse
I feel like Homelander would’ve been a fairly decent person if he was raised by decent people, and taught some morals by good people.
Haha thousandth like
Nah he’s just trying to not piss off Ryan. It’s the same way he says what he thinks the public wants to here and craves high public approval ratings like our craven President and politicians.
This comment aged so bad
2:32 such an oddly touching moment. Homelander goes straight into dad mode when he notices how scared Ryan is. Then later he confesses to him that he once struggled with being in crowds too…it’s kind of sad that he’ll never be a man capable of raising and loving Ryan properly.
Even Homelander has mercy for someone about to be subjected to cats.
Not a big cat person, eh? Lmao
@@skimbrungus7777 I meant the movie cats. I think that's what she means in the clip. If by some miracle you don't know what that is you are lucky.
@@plankthereturn oh man, that totally bypassed me, literally the first sentence in the video too... I've never seen cats, I've heard it was horrendous tho.
@@skimbrungus7777 well the furries would disagree
That first "you okay?" seems so genuine, it's nice to see Homelander actually be nice for once. Sure, he's cool when he's psychopathic and evil, but seeing him put aside his fame and glory for his son was actually very heartwarming to see.
Ryan must feel what celebrities' children has to go through in real life
His father is a celebrity and a "superhero" his other father however wants to take Vought down destroy compound V
A legit mass murderer is a better parent than mine 💀
😂
You can hate Homelander as much as you want but you can't deny the fact that he actually cared for his son, for a short time, but he really cared in his own way
Especially during the final fight in the newest episode
He himself is a child through and through.
Yet it was definitely strange to see Homelander look at his kid and go "Here.... Let's just go." instead of telling him to try and get used to it, or that he deserves attention too as his son. A very rare of occurrence of putting someone else's feelings before his own.
Homelander probably understands the whole sensory overload thing tbh.
actually kinda hurts seeing the potential good in him...you know it won't last..
can u really blame him tho ? :(
Who else is surprised that Homelander actually cares about Ryan?
well it is his son, and the only person homelander can really relate to in some way
Probably, since Ryan is the only one that can technically harm Homelander. That explains why he treats him like a human being.
@@A.W10 ryan has lasers and if ryan uses its full potential he can potentially really hurt homelander.
@@lewisguhe6283 yes that is exactly what the person you replied to said
anthony starr is so good, homelander seems so kind and humane in this scene man
Pretty cool scene where you can see that homelander instantly stops caring about the fame and what other people think of around him in favor of his son, knowing what it's like to be in this situation for the first time with him explaining it to him in the scene later in the show.
I’m guessing Ashley’s gonna be bald by the time the shows over.
By the time the show starts
Well about that
Almost bald
@@bigj7933 TAKE OFF THAT WIG
Well, done and did.
"Thank you everyone, excuse me, excuse me..... GET THE FUCK BACK!"
I was pretty sure that was gonna happen XD
@@stairwaytoheaven8 oh yeah
Scenes like this and at the cabin where he says "Ryans wants to be alone right now" make me think that if Stormfront wasn't involved then Ryan may have actually salvaged some humanity from HL.
This scene made Homelander look like an actual father for second there lol. It’s sad that Homelander can’t understand what family is really about because he’s all too caught up with his glory.
He also can't understand what family is really about because he was raised as a lab experiment than an actual human being with a family.
@@CaptainPikeachu couldn't have said it better
Stormfront is trying to be a mother again
It’s sad
Randolph Hicks yeah it really is.
It's not stormfronts fault that she is the way she is It's Hitlers fault
She culd have been a better person if she grew up in a better place
@@AidanDownes_KH Stormfront killed Kimiko's Brorher Unforgivable
@@mariuskristensen1867 well it is when she's been alive as along as she has and if you look into her/his backstory.
i love the world building so much. planet vought is such an awesome idea
raemon Targaryen yeah it’s so good and also it’s pretty much there version of comic con.
Awesome idea? I think you missed the point
@@hassantalpur6792 he meant from a writing perspective dumbass. In universe.. I guess you can say it isn't a good thing but he was saying it was a nice touch for the story.
@@shady8045 lmao I love the casual "dumbass"
@@zippyparakeet1074 yeah, honestly idk why I was that vitriolic, he was probably genuinely confused about what he meant. I guess I just assumed he was attacking him.
At 2:33 in the video I like how Homelander has this switch in his face when he sees Ryan. It’s so natural looking and his eyes convey a deep story of pain and empathy. The whole interaction he has in that moment really give me pain in knowing that his humanity is so detached that when it is shown it’s like a cold reminder of the world he was born in.
I think the little moments like this where Homelander comes through for Ryan, is when he’s able to relate to him. He was once a scared little kid surrounded by people too (since he was a lab baby), but when it comes to things that Homelander can’t immediately relate to, his narcissism makes him think “well, that’s something we’re gonna have to fix”, like when he pushed Ryan off the roof to try and bring out his powers.
Or when Ryan feels bad for killing that guy in the new season homelander gets mad as he can’t relate to empathy
"The world's too big, mom!"
Then make it smaller
😭
No shit Sherlock?!
- Martha Kent
@@darkleyete8436 *Burns half world*
focus on my voice
Homelander should've just told them he was busy.
he loves their attention. something he never got when he was a child. so the only love he really feels is that from his fans.
Sir you shouldn't waste your time with a man like homelander, cus I'm waiting for you next game.
Joking by the way
He is a narcissistic person, plus he needs attention to feel validated
He loves the attention
@@cacarot6020my dad wouldn't even take me out of a crowd
He would scold me instead calling me an anti social
I had social anxiety that's why
In a family gathering I was not feeling well and then my dad scold and insulted my in front of everyone
Homelander atleast went off when Ryan was feeling bad
I like how it shows the good side of even the most terrible people on the show. Homelander genuinely wants to be a part of his sons life. And you can tell Stormfront wants to be a mother again and care for Homelanders kid. A-train is obviously going through a crisis and you feel bad for him as well. Despite all these characters have done horrendous things, they still show a soft side that makes them hard to fully hate lol. Stormfront is a NAZI, and I still find it hard to hate her character, shes such a great villain!
Almost reminds me of _Oz_ .
I can agree with the Homelander sentiment, but Stormfront wanted Ryan first and foremost for her Nazi ideals. All she does is put down Becca, and try to mold Ryan like a puppet. Homelander definitely puts down Becca, but he does occasionally say nice things about her to Becca. He wants his son to be a super, but I that's more so he and Ryan have something to bond over.
Yep the show is about moral greys
Not supposed to be black and white (although there are some characters who obviously are very light grey or very dark grey)
@@alexanderplatypus3664
Untrue. There are very much genuine evil ones (like Stormfront and Homelander), they're just given depth.
almost like theyr real people
This scene is so sad, especially after Season 4, Homelander, I feel, really did try to be a good father, but, fact is, he clearly also just sees Ryan as an extension to himself. The trauma he endured left him too broken to be able to act like a normal father, and left him a screaming man child trapped in a adult body.
It's significant that the only time Homelander acts like a genuine parent is when Ryan's powers are acting up. It's the only thing Homelander has any empathy for Ryan about, because Homelander himself likely went through something similar. In that moment, he looked at Ryan and saw his younger self, and he's such a narcissist that the only person he can show compassion to is himself.
i love how he didn’t do typical homelander things where he tried to calm him down and actually took him to becka, he actually tries to be a father to him which makes me smile (while he’s a kid)
The brief moments where Homelander is shown to genuinely care for Ryan makes him SO much scarier than if we was just a regular psychopath tbh
No one seems to be mentioning how gentle Homelander took off. Normally he takes off violently regardless if hes in the public or not.
Probably because he had Ryan with him
I love how Homelander chooses his son over his fans. It's a great dad moment.
Homelander's son is such a well mannered boy. It's hard to beleive he is his father's son. It's a shame a child like this can't have an innocent childhood either.
he's my favorite character on the show
This is true character development. It can be difficult to give such an evil character as Homelander traits and actions that we empathize with, but here he's shown being a good dad who really cares about his son. Just makes me love this series more
Little scenes like this that show how good Homelander could have been under different circumstances. It doesn’t excuse the horrible things he does, it just makes it all the sadder.
Wow i forgot about this scene, this is the most human Homelander has ever been and i can’t imagine him doing this in season 4
Even though Stormfront is Stormfront, seeing her be gentle with Ryan and want to be his mom is actually kinda sweet.
She is likable in some regards. I think that makes her more realistic.
Well she actually has experience as a Mother so it makes sense
This scene proves that Homelander does care about his son as he escorted him out of the restaurant after nearly suffering a nervous breakdown.
He stole our hearts in this one
One of the very few good things homelander has done, he may not care about much but he does really care about Ryan
he's BEEN in Ryan's place. He knows what being alone can do to you. He physically can't force any of this on Ryan because all of his upbringing was essentially against his will and he doesn't want that for his son. I love the inner conflict and the self preservation/trauma reflex took over his parental instinct
No matter how evil you are, a man will always love his son.
Unless you're Soldier Boy
I think Homelander genuinely loves his son though like the guys a monster but he still does have humanity in him
For the jerk homelander is atleast he is serious about caring and protecting his son
This is one of my favorite scenes in the entire show. Homelander is a monster. No way around that. However, its clear he wants to be a father. He wants to give Ryan what he never had. Theres no way around this. He doesn't know how to do that though, but you can clearly see he is trying. It shows how even a monster can have even a little tiny piece of good in them. However, after Ryan chooses to go with Butcher, that was the moment every little bit of hope Homelander had about being a father and have something nice, was ripped away from him, and then we get the Homelander in season 3 that just doesn't care anymore.
I really feel like Ryan is the only person keeping Homelander from going completely insane. If something happens and Ryan is killed, Homelander will destroy the world as he destroys himself.
It's not Ryan's fault that he was raised with just his mom, anyone raised alone would be having a sensory overload
This was a pretty neat way to show that yes even narcissists like Homelander are capable of some empathy. Well their self preservation tends to always come first. But they have moments.
This is like the only normal scene in the entire show
I love that despite all the despicable actions Homelander has done in the series, he’s genuinely trying his best to a good father for Ryan in this clip. He tries to take him out eat a restaurant but when he sees his son isn’t feeling well because of the crowd and his heightened hearing, he escorts Ryan out cause he knows how overwhelming it is at that age putting Ryan’s safety and well being above his own time in the spotlight which we know he absolutely loves. Arguably Ryan did help bring out the best in Homelander
Oh my god, is Homelander being a good role model for his son, this actually makes me like Homelander a little bit, he seems so kind around his son even though we all know what he does when his son isn’t around
Who else really wanted homelander to be a cool dad?
Sometimes i can't process how much this boy grew up from Season 2 to Season 4
when i read the title i thought he took a kid to another planet named vought
i cant be the only one that wants a spin off of homelander and stormfront raising Ryan, but its just wholesome family stuff and not lasering ppl.
Yea that wuld be awesome one happy super family
Gay
idk about a nazi mom tho.
The best mother cute little stormfront and best father homelander
some people are just good at parenting
It's like the one scene in the entire show where he actually almost acts like a normal person
This is like the one time where Homelander actually acted like a nice person
I always come back to this scene. It’s the one sliver of humanity we see from him.
I'm genuinely curious about to how the Big Homie with Bacon and the Mocha Noir Shake look like
I like that homelander is trying to be a dad. Yes he doesn’t know how but he’s trying
0:24 so in season 4 Ryan plays Vought tournaments of heroes
This scene with Ryan put me on edge thinking, he might accidentally use his powers
This is so weird. Homelander is actually being a dad in this scene. His only concern is his kid.
This would be like Superman strolling up in Planet Krypton.
this is why most Superheroes have secret identities to prevent things like this happening to them at 2:00
HL had one but he said he abandoned his
@@kingvon0125 For what? His ego???
@@InvestedGman pretty much, ever noticed how he's always in his suit
@@AshraldRails Go figure Lol
The scene with Ryan and his reaction to the crowd and its noise just shows that even Homelander can have some humanity left in there deep within such a dark tragic soul.. and ofc that scene with Doppleganger and Homelanders *gasp* when he starts to change from Stilwell is so perfect and hilariously relatable on a humanely primitive level lol
I mean ok sure, every serial killer can be just as loving but it doesn't make him a good person, he's still a psychopath incarnate. The only problem is it isn't all homelander's fault. He was raised by people who only cared about what he could do for them. In an absolute loveless environment, where he's never had hardships that life brings. Most likely he did get every single thing he wanted without discipline. He was brought up to be exactly this person, so I don't blame him too much. But even with all that it seems in his own twisted way he actually cares for his son.
At least he was considerate enough to realize that ryan was panicking and got him outta there.
Ryan could be the next invincible
Think, Ryan, THINK!
He IS the next invincible
The next GOHAN! Nerdy, socially awkward, son of the world's strongest man, thrust into fucked-up circumstances, I mean he even gets kidnapped lol
literally Rock Howard
@@tabulldog2743 Billy butcher is piccolo
Wow, this superhero guy seems like a really good person.
Wow. Homelander showing genuine concern. Its crazy
Wow that kids acting is pretty damn good he played the social anxiety part super well
I don't know if this was there intention but as a sufferer of autism this legit felt like a perfect depiction of both sensory overload and autistic meltdown
Scenes like this makes me wonder if there could ever be any form of redemption for Homelander.....
This scene really made me like Homelander
He is a better dad than so many other dad's
almost makes him redeemable...almost
Before I even knew what the boys is even about, I think I thought it was about a bunch of friends hanging out
Feel like this is the only scene in the whole of the boys where we see Homelander acting like a normal, balanced, caring human being thinking of someone else instead of himself
It's so odd. Homelander is trying to convert to his way of things, yet Ryan changes something in Homelander, brings out whatever good is/was left in him. He genuinely cares that Ryan was panicking, and got him out of that situation.
Homelander is irredeemable, without a doubt. But it's like when it comes to Ryan, we can see a phantom of the hero/person Homelander could have been. It doesn't excuse a single thing he has done, but let's remember:
Homelander wasn't born, he was created, by Vought.
There’s so much to unpack in this scene. Homelander is an endlessly interesting dude.
Homelander: Back the f*ck off or I'll laser you goddamnit!
Homelander w/ Ryan: Stay back please, thank you.
"Ask the boss" ok that was cute 😭
It’s sad because if Homelander grew up with a real family that taught him right from wrong he’d be a real hero like Alex. You can see here he puts away his childish need to be adored to help Ryan, he asked if he was ok. He understood how he was feeling, he truly dose care for Ryan and no one else
homelander has the potential to be a really good person and its just so sad when we see the possibilites compared to the reality of how he is
I was worried Ryan would accidentally use his laser eyes here.
i like this side of him, you can see how he is understanding and stuff twords his kid
You know, that's one of the things I find really interesting about sociopaths, when compared to psychopaths. Although the two should be incapable of feeling empathy, in some situations sociopaths can feel something close to empathy for someone and even feel bad about hurting or doing some kind of harm to them. The series managed to represent that in Homelander in a very good and coherent way with Ryan. You can clearly see, as the narrative progresses and how it's built, that Homelander eventually starts to really seem to care about Ryan and his well being in some moments, despite being a narcissistic sociopath (That happens because of some things the narrative has built into his character, but the most important ones in my opinion would be: Homelander's desperation for love and connections with people + the fact that he see himself and part of his own pain in Ryan).
Plus he doesn't want his son to be raised the same way he was
Well yes he sees Ryan as an extension of himself
I unironically want him to drop the hero shtick to try and be a good dad
People who didnt watch the whole show:its a wholesome superhero family
Its really hilarious how Homelander and Stormfront just casually walks into the restaurant instead of some cheesy comic book entrance