Building a DIY Transparent Hybrid Rocket Engine - NightHawkInLight

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @theCodyReeder
    @theCodyReeder 8 лет назад +1889

    How many of those 2-ounce oxygen tanks did you go through during this project? They go so quick.

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +553

      For this one? Only two. For my thermic lance project, like 10.

    • @cookie3072
      @cookie3072 8 лет назад +114

      NightHawkInLight wow 2 amazing youtubers who grown my actually knowledge i love you guys !!

    • @schelsullivan
      @schelsullivan 8 лет назад +55

      Cody'sLab I love both your channels. you have both have been a great inspiration to me.

    • @johhnnayy3411
      @johhnnayy3411 8 лет назад +15

      If you're interested in looking at other oxidizers, I can pass along some tips on N2O from the research I'm involved in. Our motors are on a bit larger scale, but liquid N2O is relatively safe if you follow a few main safety guidelines.

    • @michael9601
      @michael9601 8 лет назад +13

      Can you come up with a way to measure the thrust? I would love to know how much thrust this is generating.

  • @johnnyq90
    @johnnyq90 8 лет назад +121

    That very first start up at 8:00 is really impressive to say the least! Thanks for sharing!

  • @Nighthawkinlight
    @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +327

    Hey thanks for watching! I'd like to hear from you what you think of this more casual style of video compared to what I've mostly done in the past where everything is strictly scripted and overdubbed. Had this video been made in the way that I am used to it would have likely been much shorter and concise, but also contained much less information. I intend for most of my project tutorial videos to still be made in the same way they always have but this new format is something I've been playing with for my last 2-3 videos to see how well it's liked. Thanks to my Patreon supporters once again! Take a look at my page here and consider supporting my videos if you enjoy them: www.patreon.com/NightHawkProjects

    • @blloodyspartan1135
      @blloodyspartan1135 8 лет назад +2

      NightHawkInLight dude your vif was erpic

    • @mrnoobkiller12345
      @mrnoobkiller12345 8 лет назад

      NightHawkInLight early as fuck right?

    • @ciatzo
      @ciatzo 8 лет назад +3

      NightHawkInLight love the longer, more casual format!

    • @peterbucek2136
      @peterbucek2136 8 лет назад +9

      NightHawkInLight This longer/casual format is perfect!

    • @Yonatan24
      @Yonatan24 8 лет назад +7

      Your production quality is always very high, so I prefer this type, since it saves you so much time... :)

  • @TheKingofRandom
    @TheKingofRandom 8 лет назад +1324

    Excellent video. Felt very educational.

    • @57F.K
      @57F.K 8 лет назад +34

      Grant Thompson - "The King of Random" yes it did

    • @levisteber
      @levisteber 8 лет назад +31

      Grant Thompson - "The King of Random" night talk and you should do a colab! it will be crazy what you guys can come up with!

    • @FootF-mt7pd
      @FootF-mt7pd 8 лет назад +10

      Omg I have seen u and Cody I'm subbed to both of u

    • @josgeerink9434
      @josgeerink9434 7 лет назад +4

      Grant!!!

    • @Anklejbiter
      @Anklejbiter 7 лет назад +6

      Cody AND you? This is amazing!

  • @piranha031091
    @piranha031091 8 лет назад +112

    Oh boy that brings back memories!
    When I was still in highschool, I had made my own oxygen generator setup with an empty wine bottle, some hydrogen peroxide, hydrochloric acid and a rusty nail.
    I promptly decided to have fun with it, and start burning coal in a flow of pure oxygen. Which was quite fun until the vinyl pipe I was using touched the charcoal, and did exactly what you show at 7:17 : I had inadvertently built my first hybrid rocket!
    Watching the pipe wiggle on the ground as the flame front was progressing inside it, I stomped it to stop the flow of oxygen. The other end of the pipe promptly popped off the wine bottle with a small hydrogen peroxide geyser, and the combustion stopped.
    I then decided I would try again, this time adding a steel pipe at the end of the vinyl tube. That's how I inadvertently built my first thermal lance.
    After using the same pipe-stomping technique to extinguish it, I moved on to copper, which has a lower melting point, but is not flammable, even in pure oxygen.
    I had quite some fun by filling a hole in a brick with a mix of charcoal and small aluminium pieces, then adding a charcoal ember to it, and lowering that long copper pipe in the hole with pure oxygen coming out of it. It made a beautiful white light, with a weird flame on top, green on the inside and blue on the outside (I assume that's due to the copper from the pipe).
    It was giving off so much heat, I could lower the copper pipe without feeling any resistance, as it must have instantly melted in contact with the burning charcoal and aluminium.
    I've still kept the bits of molten metal from back then!

    • @Cajuu
      @Cajuu 5 лет назад +6

      So you had enough hydrogen peroxide to create enough oxygen to make a thermal lance?

    • @meezalamazala279
      @meezalamazala279 5 лет назад +2

      Caju sounds like the DHS might not like you

    • @yogeshvlogs5757
      @yogeshvlogs5757 5 лет назад +1

      Ok

    • @icyhot8098
      @icyhot8098 4 года назад

      Wow that’s so cool ✨✨✨

  • @AppliedScience
    @AppliedScience 8 лет назад +361

    Sweet! Thanks so much for the link!

  • @hansolo6751
    @hansolo6751 8 лет назад +635

    your eyebrows make you look sincere

    • @jvnemunkh6323
      @jvnemunkh6323 8 лет назад +2

      when has guys get their eyebrows done, smh

    • @evelyndai8200
      @evelyndai8200 8 лет назад +3

      Hansolo lol

    • @SoulDelSol
      @SoulDelSol 8 лет назад +34

      Hansolo but his beard is asymmetrical so I don't trust him

    • @caseyb1346
      @caseyb1346 7 лет назад +13

      Yeah I see Ted Cruz too.

    • @caseybaker4640
      @caseybaker4640 7 лет назад +3

      casey b Ted Cruz got them creepy jowls that make him look like he's wearing a mask like in point break

  • @Shankovich
    @Shankovich 8 лет назад +27

    Hi, I'm actually a researcher working with HREs, currently writing my thesis on HRE scaling and the effects on performance in going larger while keeping scale.
    Our rocket is simulated using a combustion model my supervisor made (he's pretty brilliant, but very quiet hahaha). Our simulation model is HTPB and N2O however so far it agrees well with empirical models. Current issues are the regression rate ("burn" rate) of the fuel and stoichiometric length in design.
    Cantwell gave a good presentation on current developments, and a HRE with a single port giving comparable Isp to larger rockets is doable using GOX and highly refined (basically) candle wax with aluminum particles (I think it was 20% by weight?) below 10 micrometers.
    Anyways, if you get a big candle from Ikea, stick it in a metal pipe, drill a port into it, and run some oxygen through it, you can get a pretty good rocket out of it :p. Also, you need a proper converging diverging nozzle that needs to choke (at least above double atmospheric pressure if we're being conservative); that can be done, you need a 3D printer with machinable wax and you can make a decent casting with that.
    I should probably try all of this...but I need to write and i'm procrastinating right now >_>. Happy to answer any questions!
    EDIT: also, I can hear buzzing on your rocket, means the combustion is very unstable. This is a problem with HREs but can be greatly mitigated with a pre and post combustion chamber. Also to fly, you really do need a proper nozzle.

    • @FirstLast-kx1gr
      @FirstLast-kx1gr 7 лет назад +1

      As a general rule, solid hybrid fuel should be quite opaque. If the fuel is translucent, infrared will heat all the fuel rather than only that directly in contact with flame. Wax is problematic, except for very short tests. One might do well to use HTPB with .5% carbon black at first, as adding metal powder makes matters a bit more challenging.

    • @fromagefrizzbizz9377
      @fromagefrizzbizz9377 6 лет назад

      +nabil iben-sobih the go-to material for nozzles is graphite. Throat temperatures are quite high, and graphite will resist it if anything will - won't melt or spall, and are usually reusable after a simple cleaning. You can get fancier with larger nozzles with graphite liner and lesser materials for the bell/bulk of the nozzle. While graphite is somewhat expensive, you can go to "nozzle plates" (multi-venturi), where the graphite is a relatively thin circular plate with multiple small nozzles bored through. Weight and cost savings of as much as 10:1 can be achieved this way, venturi profile is less critical,/faster and performance loss over a single nozzle is usually minimal.
      Full size single nozzles need lathe machining, preferably CNC. Nozzle plates can be done with a drill press, and quite minimal manual lathe work.
      Most commercially made amateur high power solid and hybrid motors use graphite.

    • @jillvalentinefan77
      @jillvalentinefan77 6 лет назад

      How do you get into the field of research like this ? I'm not gonna pretend like I am a expert or understand all the science behind rockets and space craft.

    • @fromagefrizzbizz9377
      @fromagefrizzbizz9377 6 лет назад

      @@jillvalentinefan77 Are you referring to me? I simply got interested in rocketry beyond model rockets, read the relevant books, happened to have a number of friends also very deeply into the hobby. One of them designed, built, flew and sold (to others in high power rocketry hobby) "solid core" and hybrid motors into the 2000+ pound thrust range. Another was experimenting with tri-fuel/hybrid motors. We all wanted to build various designs of our own, and a local highschool had us show up for every machine shop adult course every summer for several years. We used to joke with the teacher that he must have failed miserably in teaching us, because we had to keep coming back. The whole point was to get access to decent machine tools.
      Part of what happened is that we all ended up making parts for each other's motors. It was our interest, so we had to understand *what* the part was for, and how it was designed. So we taught each other what we had learned in our various inherent specialties.
      I've made graphite nozzles both of the single venturi and "plate" varieties, for combustion chambers up to 8" in diameter. I've built combustion chambers for solids and hybrids, pre-heat shrouds for tribrids, interstage modules, electronics subsystems etc. Assisted in the manufacture of several kinds of rocket fuel, etc. Test engine fires, ground support, Launch Control Officer and so on.
      I wasn't quite bitten with the same level rocket-bug as the others, so my projects weren't quite as adventurous as theirs were, but I ended up understanding just about as much as they did. They pushed the envelope more than I did, and as a result had more failures than I, but, that was okay by them too.
      One of the things you learn in life is that people who do things they enjoy (which is what a hobby is), can often understand things far more deeply than those just drawing a pay cheque. It's not work, it's play. Even better if you can get paid to do something you'd happily do as an unpaid hobby.
      The best way to learn about basic rocketry is to get bitten by the high power rocketry bug. You can fly Estes rockets without learning a thing, but to successfully fly level 3 high power (my level of certification), you *have* to learn quite a lot, no choice.
      If you want to start, if you're very lucky, you'll have a high power rocketry group in your area and go to their launches, ask questions, and get yourself started. If there's no high-power group, look around for more serious model rocketry groups. They'll usually have a high power afficionado somewhere looking for some company.

  • @215alessio
    @215alessio 8 лет назад +5

    I learnd more from you than most education channels on tv

  • @JamesBalazs
    @JamesBalazs 3 года назад +1

    Damn, I've been subscribed for years and never spotted this video - just what we need in the UK where hybrid rocket engines are the only ones you can really build legally.

  • @Wulthrin
    @Wulthrin 6 лет назад +391

    TIL: anything is a rocket if you throw enough oxygen at it

    • @jaredalexander3403
      @jaredalexander3403 5 лет назад +6

      What I was thinking lol

    • @sigmamale4147
      @sigmamale4147 5 лет назад +17

      Or fluorine, which can burn with concrete

    • @theactedarrow2687
      @theactedarrow2687 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah, just put some oxygen up someone’s but and put a fire in their mouth and boom!

    • @DL-kc8fc
      @DL-kc8fc 5 лет назад

      The sausage triangle is a very good fuel. The oxidant may be N2O. The video is more about regulatability through pure oxygen, which is a good concept, but in reality it is necessary to first heat the fuel and it takes some time. Repeated ignition also requires several ignition attempts. Hydrazine engines can ignite themselves with a platinum grille even under vacuum. It is therefore very fast, safe and reliable. Therefore, it was used in the Apollo lunar return module.

    • @asrieldreemurr4481
      @asrieldreemurr4481 4 года назад

      Justin Clonts turbojet engine is the simplest engine type

  • @MrSnake4441
    @MrSnake4441 8 лет назад

    You did a better explanation of a solid fuel rocket than any other ones I've seen, love it!

  • @keroy4588
    @keroy4588 5 лет назад +3

    UGGHHH!!!!!! I want more!!!! I’m so much learning in this channel. Thanks bro. God bless and may we learn more from you.

  • @pokis50
    @pokis50 8 лет назад

    I loved how detailed the video was, I do enjoy you explaining things in a quick and easy understood fashion. The information is compressed in a way I can listen, and it's pretty hard for me to concentrate on things.
    Keep the good work.

  • @lance_the_avocado9492
    @lance_the_avocado9492 5 лет назад +4

    I decided to use your idea of this engine. I decided to make it a jet engine, with an after burner. Took a lot of time but I did it, a fully Manual throttle lever. I also made a auto starting sequence, I loved remaking your project and making a jet engine out of it. It uses jet fuel that I bought, really loud and produces a pretty good amount of force.

  • @diegopg5464
    @diegopg5464 8 лет назад

    Learning the basic for aeronautic physics with NightHawkInLight huh?
    This is gonna be really useful to me!

  • @WeaselLevelDesign
    @WeaselLevelDesign 8 лет назад +5

    This is amazing, thanks for sharing!
    I'm not a scientist, but I'm fairly certain the visual effect of the rocket core shrinking is caused by its IOR (index of refraction) decreasing as the temperature increases. As the temperature of the acrylic increases, its permittivity (also called dielectric constant) decreases, therefore so too does its index of refraction. The image seen through the transparent surface is becoming less refracted.

  • @NoelPee
    @NoelPee 6 лет назад

    Referred to the same video for inspiration for my final year project ! Cool to see someone remaking it again. So much fun!

  • @TheJollyGamerJoe
    @TheJollyGamerJoe 8 лет назад +31

    Just putting 'Rocket Scientist' on my CV now. :P

  • @MiningWithStix
    @MiningWithStix 8 лет назад

    That was absolutely fantastic. I am by no means a scientist but understood this video anyway.

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore 8 лет назад +19

    Fantastic video! I guess you also learned in the process of making this video, how quickly those Home Depot/Lowes O2 tanks discharge for 10 bucks. :-)

  • @lordbyron3603
    @lordbyron3603 5 лет назад

    Amazing ... I thought I was going to be bored out of my wits, but I really learned something today. The charcoal and oxidizer mixture caught my attention. Good job explaining how all this works.

  • @urdnal
    @urdnal 8 лет назад +90

    Does the core look like it's shrinking as it catches fire because its index of refraction changes as the surface heats up and melts?

    • @flaplaya
      @flaplaya 8 лет назад +19

      You beat me to it. As it goes molten its refraction index changes. Great mind urdnal.

    • @lordbyron3603
      @lordbyron3603 5 лет назад

      urdnal Uhh .... yeah... okay. If you say so. 🤪

    • @thetruthexperiment
      @thetruthexperiment 5 лет назад

      Really?

    • @tako1257
      @tako1257 5 лет назад +1

      I was thinking about simply moisture vaporizing away but ok einstein

    • @BackYardScience2000
      @BackYardScience2000 4 года назад

      @@tako1257 Where would the moisture come from?

  • @superscience8944
    @superscience8944 8 лет назад

    I watched this video a while ago and it still blows my mind. Awesome job nighthawkinlight

  • @SpecificLove7
    @SpecificLove7 8 лет назад +5

    Very interesting and awesome rocket

  • @ThunderChunky101
    @ThunderChunky101 5 лет назад

    And KOR, love you guys. Keeping the light alive dudes. Well done.

  • @USWaterRockets
    @USWaterRockets 8 лет назад +28

    I would love to know if you measured the thrust of your rocket engine. I'd like to see how it varies with the "throttle". I also believe with a throttled engine like this you can never have an ideal DeLaval nozzle shape across the throttle range. The nozzle shape will only be good for a certain thrust and not another. You would probably maximize the nozzle for full throttle operation in a practical application. Anyhow, I like the style of video. I really like the detailed science explanation. I also love this subject matter. I would love to see if you can make a liquid rocket engine, Cody from CodysLab was working on one a while ago but has not done any videos about it recently.

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +7

      I have not measured the thrust. Building a device to do so might be a future video if this one does well. I agree that there's no such thing as the perfect nozzle for a rocket with variable thrust, unless the nozzle is also variable. Mine was pretty bad though for any range. I'll make a better one if i try again.

    • @epithemeus3596
      @epithemeus3596 8 лет назад

      I'd be curious how much of a difference in thrust a well shaped nozzle versus your crappy nozzle actually makes.

    • @USWaterRockets
      @USWaterRockets 8 лет назад +2

      Epithemeus Look up Convergent/Divergent nozzles. When done correctly, they can give many times the thrust of a cylindrical opening.

    • @USWaterRockets
      @USWaterRockets 8 лет назад +1

      NightHawkInLight I've built a simple low cost electronic thrust measurement system. I have the build and everything on video, I just have not edited the video for upload to my channel. If you do one, I'd be happy to help.

    • @pirobot668beta
      @pirobot668beta 8 лет назад +1

      Aerospike nozzle. Solves a lot of problems.

  • @MyrMerek
    @MyrMerek 7 лет назад

    that was freaking awsome! thanks to you patrons for paying this guy!

  • @lorenzotomaselli7611
    @lorenzotomaselli7611 8 лет назад +11

    "A friend gave me some random bits of graphite" - rocketdweeb cries in envy

  • @DgoRI
    @DgoRI 7 лет назад

    Heating is a very known method to restore car lens, CD surface restore, etc. The shrinking effect it´s because heat produces a polymer chain re-arranging as the material goes to a fluid state. Very nice video!

  • @TommyCallaway
    @TommyCallaway 8 лет назад +8

    Loving the new style man, keep it up!

  • @sham4192
    @sham4192 8 лет назад

    Make a graphite holder to encase the entire thing along with a couple of graphite/steel screws to hold the nozzle and the holder together. Make a bunch of those acrylic "fuel rods" but drill a hole at the side for a fire to be lit through an ignition coil. make 4 of those and attach it to a go cart with some excellent rudders/steering mechanism. I would love to see that, great job man! Also make it such that the acrylic fuel rods can be replaced easily so the go=cart can be re-used. If you wanna use this for an aerial vehicle you'd have to develop a very efficient way for refuelling XD

  • @USWaterRockets
    @USWaterRockets 8 лет назад +38

    Is anyone else on here really annoyed when movies/TV use oxygen tanks as an explosive, because they say pure oxygen is an explosive? I love how you show how bogus that notion is!

    • @thepotatomafia8685
      @thepotatomafia8685 8 лет назад

      ayee, i know you, as well as i agree with you're statment, i whould give anything to see a movie with 100% accurate science.

    • @mojaverockets
      @mojaverockets 8 лет назад +15

      An enclosed container of any gas under high pressure can be 'explosive' if heated high enough. Even water heated in an enclosed tank would be...even a water rocket tank will mechanically 'explode' if the pressure was high enough.

    • @TheSuraj03
      @TheSuraj03 8 лет назад

      USWaterRockets I think what you mean is the big fireball you see in the movies, and yes it is extremely annoying. Only flammable compressed fuel can create a fireball

    • @butterbagelgaming3654
      @butterbagelgaming3654 8 лет назад

      USWaterRockets who does that

    • @USWaterRockets
      @USWaterRockets 8 лет назад +3

      Deadpool just did it. It's been done before in more obscure shows/films.

  • @Liveforeever
    @Liveforeever 7 лет назад +1

    Cool video, I actually learnt something from RUclips today

  • @imajeenyus42
    @imajeenyus42 8 лет назад +4

    Regarding the apparent shrinking of the hole, here's my take. For a start, the hole appears bigger than it actually is because the surrounding cylindrical piece of acrylic is acting like a magnifying lens. At room temperature, the refractive index is about 1.47. As the layer of acrylic near the burning center heats up, the refractive index drops (in most plastics, the index goes down as the temperature goes up). The magnifying effect is then reduced, which makes the hole appear to shrink. Hope that makes sense!

    • @MichelPASTOR
      @MichelPASTOR 8 лет назад +1

      I think you are right I just wrote a comment basically saying the same thing before I saw yours.

    • @randomtinker1843
      @randomtinker1843 8 лет назад +1

      Nice! I was comment searching for an answer. My best ideas had been uneven thermal expansion due to an uneven heat distribution, but the apparent change seemed to quick for that. One other idea I had tumbling around was that maybe a fusing of all the scratches and cracks from drilling allowed the clarity to extend further in.

  • @phxtonash
    @phxtonash 8 лет назад

    I watch all your videos I really like them I really like how you edit, and the way you enunciate when you're speaking.

  • @gtfkt
    @gtfkt 8 лет назад +8

    The core flame is melting the machining marks that make it look opaque, and keeps it in a liquid state once burning, so you can see right through instead of seeing the light deflected off the rough machining marks.Much like you'd do by spraying water on a frosted glass with a cold liquid inside. It looks like it's shrinking because the necessary temperature to make the acrylic melt and burn with the oxygen, was acquired from the tip backwards because the ignition source is at the tip. As the interior started burning with the oxygen, it traveled back until it reached the source of the oxydizer. That good enough?

    • @AureliusR
      @AureliusR 6 лет назад

      Incorrect. The acrylic is melting and changing its index of refraction. This is probably the overwhelming contributor to this optic effect.

  • @flyerminer
    @flyerminer 8 лет назад

    I love this new format, it contained much more detailed information! thank you!

  • @stef0262
    @stef0262 8 лет назад +35

    Please build a Hybrid Rocket that can fly, and if you can, put a goPro on it

  • @ahoahat7919
    @ahoahat7919 6 лет назад

    Totally awesome video, we used to mess around with that stuff in high school!
    Acrylic tubes Bring back memories for me. When you drilled that tube It brought back memories from high school, because when you would grind on acrylics, there is a certain smell comes from manipulating the acrylic ! Awesome video 10 thumbs up by Roger Ebert

  • @lucak7337
    @lucak7337 8 лет назад

    Why are People disliking this? It is interesting and cool!

  • @sberg8474
    @sberg8474 8 лет назад +8

    Awesome video. Could a less efficient version be made using regular compressed air?

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +11

      No. Because air is only 20% oxygen the other 80% will cool off the fuel as it blows past faster than the oxygen can feed the flame and the rocket will go out.

    • @edmundschwartzadder5360
      @edmundschwartzadder5360 8 лет назад

      NOx (laughing gas) might.

    • @googleeatsdicks
      @googleeatsdicks 8 лет назад +2

      it's N2O

  • @gustafvonplaten4966
    @gustafvonplaten4966 3 года назад

    Very impressive! I'm a student at a Swedish university and currently working on somewhat similar hybrid-rocket-related projects for both my masters thesis and in a separate student project. To answer your question about what happens at 8:28, I believe this is the fuel grain forming a fuel vapour zone, with heated and vapourized fuel flowing inwards into the oxidizer stream where it is ignited. Because it is not hot enough to glow, it gives the impression of the fuel grain 'shrinking' but if one looks carefully, one can faintly see the 'real' edge of the solid fuel grain which is regressing outwards. For an illustration of this, see page 589 (figure 15-7) of G.P. Sutton's Rocket Propulsion Elements, 7th ed.

  • @flaplaya
    @flaplaya 8 лет назад +4

    I would guess some pretty foul fumes. Good ventilation is key here... Cool rocket motor.

  • @hilltop4847
    @hilltop4847 8 лет назад

    Your videos are like primitive technologys vids. few and far between but I wait patiently and am always entertained! Great Vid!

  • @scottgauer7299
    @scottgauer7299 8 лет назад +35

    Not only will a poorly designed nozzle not produce optimum thrust, it might not even generate significant amounts of thrust at all. The nozzle throat needs to accelerate the gas to sonic, then expand it supersonically. In order to get sonic flow in the nozzle, you have to have at least 30-40 psi chamber pressure, which it looks like you didn't have since the nozzle was just press fit over the chamber. Thrust is linearly related to exhaust velocity, so if you aren't getting at least sonic flow, don't expect more than a pound of thrust at most.

    • @-danR
      @-danR 8 лет назад +4

      It's a good working model of a tube, burning from the inside. It is not rocket, it is not a rocket model.

    • @scottgauer7299
      @scottgauer7299 8 лет назад +1

      I mean, the title says "Hybrid Rocket" so I'm not sure I follow

    • @phoenixrising4573
      @phoenixrising4573 8 лет назад +5

      It's a conceptual model, not a functional model, meant to be built by people at home. Will it launch a payload? No, it wont. Will it teach a child, or function for a demonstration of, how a rocket engine combusts, while making a fairly impressive visualization? Yes, it will.
      I'm pretty sure he knows the has little to no thrust, but it DOES explain the concept of hybrid rocket engines.

    • @kerszz354
      @kerszz354 8 лет назад

      Thrust is not related to exhaust velocity, specific impulse is. Thrust has many variables, e.g. nozzle size, shape, expansion ratio, type of propellant, pressure in combustion chamber etc.

    • @scottgauer7299
      @scottgauer7299 8 лет назад +1

      KersZZ Thrust is absolutely related to exhaust velocity. The thrust equation is T= mdot*v_exhaust +A_exit(P_e-P_a). And for an optimized nozzle with Pa=Pe the only participant in the thrust equation is massflow times exhaust velocity. Isp (specific impulse) is simply exhaust velocity divided by 9.81 (g).

  • @Kumquat_Lord
    @Kumquat_Lord 6 лет назад

    I knew from the image exactly what it was you made, even before watching. Thanks, Scott Manley!

  • @Starfighter-nk4mo
    @Starfighter-nk4mo 5 лет назад +5

    Need to figure out how to make these into an rc model

  • @harishpsalian5394
    @harishpsalian5394 4 года назад

    IT WAS AWESOME. I GOT SUCH USEFUL IDEAS TO MAKE A ROCKET.

  • @TheIntrepidus
    @TheIntrepidus 8 лет назад +3

    It doesn't shrink, it's just the refraction changes due to liquification of the inside wall of the combustion chamber.

    • @fromagefrizzbizz9377
      @fromagefrizzbizz9377 6 лет назад

      +James Di I think he was referring to why the burn regression rate at the forward end of the chamber was slower than at the back (nozzle) end.
      This is largely because the velocity of O2 is higher at the head end, and the OS s focussed more to a fine jet. As the O2 jet flows towards the back, it's slowing down a bit, expanding, and hotter (preheated). Which causes the acrylic to burn, and hence regress, faster.
      You can see a somewhat analogous effect visually at the nozzle itself, where the flame is not expanding to match the really coarse pseudo-taper he drilled. This is "classic" underexpansion of the exhaust.
      In more serious rocket design, not only does the nozzle venturi have to be precisely shaped to produce optimal thrust, you'd also shape the gas injectors to try to better balance the regression rates.
      Machining precise curves in nozzle venturi is quite hard if all you have is a manual lathe, rather than full CNC. In larger amateur hybrid motors they often "cheat", and instead of a single venturi, in a big fat chunk of graphite, the nozzle is often a much thinner graphite plate with numerous smaller venturi . This has two advantages. The shape of each venturi is less critical, and it's a much smaller chunk of graphite - cheaper and a lot lighter.
      As a side note, while Nitrous oxide is rather more difficult to obtain than O2, and isn't quite as energetic as O2, it is FAR SAFER than O2 in large part because it's not so aggressive.
      Secondly, since N2O is quite easily to liquify at room temperature, the oxidizer tank in an amateur hybrid doesn't need to withstand as much pressure as a O2 cylinder. It's effectively impossible to have liquid O2 at room temperature (it's vaporizing off at a horrendous rate) no matter what pressure you have it at, and for gas, you need much higher pressures to have nearly the same oxidizer capacity - MUCH heavier tankage.
      Further, by careful calculation you can pick the ideal injector size, so simple Nitrous liquid -> gas evaporation provides the pressure you need to run the rocket combustion cycle, and the pressure remains relatively constant until the nitrous runs out. Flying amateur rockets with liquid O2 is impractical (not to mention quite dangerous), very difficult to obtain, and if you use gaseous O2 in the tank, the delivery pressure varies wildly, and the thrust is no where close to being consistent. With O2, you generally have to use liquid O2 and pumps to get consistent thrust.
      O2 is ideal for demonstrations like this, where the overall visualization is more important than optimal thrust. But if you want to do high power rocketry with reliable and consistent thrust, DO NOT use O2, use nitrous. Leave O2 to the big boys with big bucks..

  • @hunszaszist
    @hunszaszist 7 лет назад

    Man, your macro shots are amazing.

  • @mrdog1373
    @mrdog1373 8 лет назад +264

    How to attract the attention of the FBI, CIA 101.

    • @AboboKing
      @AboboKing 8 лет назад +26

      You do realize you can buy far more powerful rocket engines pre-made for model rocks right?

    • @hyperhektor7733
      @hyperhektor7733 8 лет назад +3

      @Pen is the funny thing is you dont have to search for any dangerous and in some countries illegal stuff because youtube rubs these videos under your nose until you watch them to get rid of the youtube suggestion xD

    • @benjamin8558
      @benjamin8558 8 лет назад

      +Anubis Why would he thrust you?

    • @MrJamesIkanov
      @MrJamesIkanov 8 лет назад

      Nah. It's not like they really have any legal methods for just tracking people down for looking up this sort of thing.

    • @scrambledmandible
      @scrambledmandible 8 лет назад +1

      Yes, I love my model rocks!

  • @melissawilson2521
    @melissawilson2521 8 лет назад

    NightHawkInLight you have really inspired my son some much thank you :)

  • @toast8176
    @toast8176 8 лет назад +9

    What was the powdered oxidizer made of again? Sorry if i missed it :/

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +18

      There are many solid oxidizers. The one i show is potassium nitrate.

    • @mojaverockets
      @mojaverockets 8 лет назад

      Big or small, metal, generally powdered spherical aluminum, is the fuel and needs a binder like HTPB or PBAN to hold the powdered oxidizer, and the metal together. The binder also burns in the process as a fuel.

    • @noahromero1984
      @noahromero1984 8 лет назад

      Toast the oxidizer is most likely potassium nitrate because it is very easy to get. you can get it in some tree stump remover if you get the right brand.

    • @mojaverockets
      @mojaverockets 8 лет назад +1

      Since you like Wiki, here is also an excerpt on Space Shuttle Solid Rocket Booster or as you said "...the very stuff NASA boosters use":
      'The rocket propellant mixture in each solid rocket motor consisted of ammonium perchlorate (oxidizer, 69.8% by weight), atomized aluminium powder (fuel, 16%), iron oxide (catalyst, 0.2%), PBAN (binder, also acts as fuel, 12%), and an epoxy curing agent (2%).[7][8] This propellant is commonly referred to as Ammonium Perchlorate Composite Propellant, or simply APCP. This mixture gave the solid rocket motors a specific impulse of 242 seconds (2.37 km/s) at sea level or 268 seconds (2.63 km/s) in a vacuum.
      The main fuel, aluminum, was used because it has a reasonable specific energy density of about 31.0 MJ/kg, but a high volumetric energy density, and is difficult to ignite accidentally.
      The propellant had an 11-point star-shaped perforation in the forward motor segment and a double-truncated-cone perforation in each of the aft segments and aft closure. This configuration provided high thrust at ignition and then reduced the thrust by approximately a third 50 seconds after lift-off to avoid overstressing the vehicle during maximum dynamic pressure (Max Q)"

    • @mojaverockets
      @mojaverockets 8 лет назад

      And directly from an academic source can be found this excerpt from Sutton's 'ROCKET PROPULSION ELEMENTS' 7th edition on pages 475-476:
      "3. Composite propellants form a heterogenous propellant grain with the oxidizer crystals and a powdered fuel (usually aluminum) held together in a matrix of synthetic rubber (or plastic) binder, such as polybutadiene (HTPB)*. Composite propellants are cast from a mix of solid (AP crystals, Al powder)* and liquid (HTPB, PPG)* ingrediants. The propellant is hardened by crosslinking or curing the liquid binder polymer with a small amount of curing agent, and curing it in an oven, where it becomes hard and solid. In the past three decades the composite propellants have been the most commonly used class. They can be further subdivided:
      (1) Conventional composite propellants usually contain between 60 and 72% ammonium perchlorate (AP) as crystalline oxidizer, up to 22%aluminum powder (Al) as a metal fuel, and 8 to 16% of elastomeric binder (organic polymer) including its plasticizer."
      (2)-(5) talk about other formulations that can include RDX, nitroglycerine, etc for higher energy ( Isp ). You can reduce or even eliminate aluminum from APCP but at greatly reduced performance relying only on the binder as fuel.

  • @Eric_Pham
    @Eric_Pham 8 лет назад

    Another great video by nighthawkinlight

  • @ynzeselders4184
    @ynzeselders4184 8 лет назад +6

    Awesome, what's the powdered oxidizer you used with the charcoal? Was it Potassium nitrate?

    • @IagoPereira
      @IagoPereira 8 лет назад +2

      yes it is

    • @AB79700
      @AB79700 8 лет назад +3

      Ynze Selders maybe potassium chlorate?

    • @LarsVeldscholte
      @LarsVeldscholte 8 лет назад +1

      Indeed, probably potassium nitrate. Potassium nitrate + sulfur + charcoal is black powder, the propellant most often used in fireworks.
      In amateur rocketry is it also popular to use sugar as a fuel (rocket candy), again with potassium nitrate as oxidiser.

    • @IagoPereira
      @IagoPereira 8 лет назад +2

      He said in a comment above that it is actually KNO3

    • @IagoPereira
      @IagoPereira 8 лет назад +2

      Ian Soede Yes, I was reinforcing the idea... wtf ahah

  • @AnaloguePhoto
    @AnaloguePhoto 8 лет назад

    Amazing video!
    Would love to see a rocket with such an engine fly.
    Another amazing thing is the amount of subscribers this "science channel" has gathered.

  • @dominicgordon7268
    @dominicgordon7268 8 лет назад +5

    How loud was that graphite capped rocket engine

  • @SafetyLucas
    @SafetyLucas 8 лет назад +2

    Happy birthday NightHawk! And happy Thanksgiving!

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +2

      Hey thank you! Hope you had a good Thanksgiving yourself.

  • @dominicbonaventura3633
    @dominicbonaventura3633 8 лет назад +5

    How much actual thrust do you think the engine produces?

  • @theguyfromacrosstheb
    @theguyfromacrosstheb 8 лет назад

    Thanks for putting in the time and effort for this video.

  • @willtrautman6243
    @willtrautman6243 8 лет назад +9

    how much thrust does it make

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +10

      I didn't have a setup available to measure it. Due to the inefficient nozzle probably only around 5lbs. Acrylic isn't an ideal fuel in any case, it just makes a good demonstration because it's clear. Using a good nozzle, proper fuel, and an oxygen valve that can dump oxidizer quickly you might be able to get in the range of 50lbs of thrust out of the same size rocket.

    • @uzbekistanplaystaion4BIOScrek
      @uzbekistanplaystaion4BIOScrek 8 лет назад +1

      Couldn't you have rested the rocket against a weighing scale?

  • @based_will
    @based_will 8 лет назад +1

    love how you're holding that tube most of the video ;)

  • @douglassmacarthur3606
    @douglassmacarthur3606 8 лет назад +7

    You look like Ted Crus with a beard and mustache

  • @tdiddle8950
    @tdiddle8950 2 года назад

    I really appreciate Will Wheaton for doing this video. It just shows that he's more than just a pretty face who appeared on Star Trek once or twice.
    ;-)

  • @hansolo6751
    @hansolo6751 8 лет назад +38

    i would install it on my wifes bicycle

    • @sonnyburnett8725
      @sonnyburnett8725 4 года назад +1

      No No No, that would be crazy dangerous for her............ ; -)

    • @ruthenian.wisdom
      @ruthenian.wisdom 4 года назад

      @@sonnyburnett8725 "; -)"?!

  • @anandmalviya600
    @anandmalviya600 6 лет назад

    thanks for making such nice educational videos..I actually learnt a lot of stuff about the thrust of rocket ..and such channels should really grow if science lovers exists..😃

  • @Naavy2022
    @Naavy2022 8 лет назад +17

    HE LOOKS LIKE TED CRUZ

    • @ancient_gamerr
      @ancient_gamerr 8 лет назад +8

      I first thought "Hey, Will Wheatons brother!" But now Ted Cruz can't be unseen...

  • @holdersteven
    @holdersteven 7 лет назад

    Loved your Video! And you seem to be a likable chap!

  • @SkeeballDinkleman
    @SkeeballDinkleman 8 лет назад +114

    Dude look like Ted Cruz's son

  • @transArsonist
    @transArsonist 8 лет назад

    sick, dude. i like that u put the shiny content first

  • @martinblouin3639
    @martinblouin3639 8 лет назад +4

    it seem to pulse a bit no?

    • @rogeredge1604
      @rogeredge1604 6 лет назад

      I know this is a year late, but the pulsing effect is likely due to shocks. When a nozzle is not ideal, shocks form inside. When a shock forms there is a pressure difference from one side of the shock to the other. This pressure difference causes the shock to move, because the conditions by which the shock formed are not the same. The shock eventually exits the nozzle and a new one forms. This is likely what is causing what you are detecting as the pulse.

    • @orkanozgur3749
      @orkanozgur3749 6 лет назад

      @@rogeredge1604 2 years *

    • @rogeredge1604
      @rogeredge1604 6 лет назад

      @@orkanozgur3749 Thanks. Last month it said 1 year.

  • @raquatv
    @raquatv 8 лет назад

    These video always amaze me! Thanks NighHawkInLight and thanks to have help smartereveryday too for his last video! Colaboration make great stuff!

  • @xWood4000
    @xWood4000 8 лет назад +10

    Why is this probably forbidden in Finland? It doesn't harm anyone.

    • @jupe0103
      @jupe0103 8 лет назад +6

      Why is EVERYTHING forbidden in Finland

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 8 лет назад +1

      The Crow But you can build rocket engines in USA so why not here?

    • @giin97
      @giin97 8 лет назад +4

      xWood4000 socialism ;) what's good for one is good for all, what's bad for one is bad for all. Risk of injury, risk of death, risk of weaponization. Banned.

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +7

      Stop with this train of insults or I will ban from the channel.

    • @rebeccazhu754
      @rebeccazhu754 8 лет назад

      civil law confirmed.

  • @virgilebonnaud5525
    @virgilebonnaud5525 7 лет назад

    he is so relaxing to listen to.

  • @1122334455yuo
    @1122334455yuo 8 лет назад +4

    *YOU CAN SHUT OFF A SOLID FUEL ENGINE* all you have to do it cut it in half before the side thats burning reaches the end or top

    • @1122334455yuo
      @1122334455yuo 8 лет назад +1

      ive had to before.. lol

    • @1122334455yuo
      @1122334455yuo 8 лет назад

      well if ya think about it that way i suppose lol unless you throw the burning chunk immediatly into water

    • @MichelPASTOR
      @MichelPASTOR 8 лет назад +1

      Very safe, very easy and definitely something you would do in a flying rocket to modulate the thrust lol !

    • @linkxsc
      @linkxsc 8 лет назад +1

      Not to mention a lot of solid rocket motors are burning their whole length at once.

    • @djdeebs
      @djdeebs 8 лет назад

      nice dude thanks

  • @AlejandroFerrariMc
    @AlejandroFerrariMc 7 лет назад

    I love your videos! I like how you held that plastic tubing in front of you for almost five minutes, for no apparent reason! 😂

  • @GenericGerman
    @GenericGerman 8 лет назад +6

    That is a very good, educational video!
    However, aren't you a bit concerned about wearing gloves when holding something under a drillpress? It was strikty forbidden in our metalshop to do so.

    • @MichelPASTOR
      @MichelPASTOR 8 лет назад

      When the thing is round it can't hurt you if it gets caught and start spinning so it was ok not to use gloves in this particular instance.

    • @GenericGerman
      @GenericGerman 8 лет назад +1

      "[...]so it was ok not to use gloves[...]"
      Right, NOT wearing gloves on a fast spinning machine is what I was told to do.

    • @MichelPASTOR
      @MichelPASTOR 8 лет назад

      Reread my comment not only the part you're interested in.

    • @GenericGerman
      @GenericGerman 8 лет назад

      Oh my god, the irony.

    • @MichelPASTOR
      @MichelPASTOR 8 лет назад

      Looks like your god didn't help you learn English

  • @BhaiFoodieandTravler
    @BhaiFoodieandTravler 7 лет назад

    thank you giving this information and your theory is very good ....keep posting this kind of video

  • @raidkoast
    @raidkoast 8 лет назад +4

    like the vid.. But come on man. At 9:00 min.. That's a recipe for getting your finger ripped of or degloved..

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +3

      Those are nitrile gloves. They're thinner than a piece of paper and are way too weak to drag your hand into a bit.

    • @raidkoast
      @raidkoast 8 лет назад +2

      NightHawkInLight
      I know.. I'm worried about his hand.
      Wouldn't do that barehanded.

    • @smocaine.
      @smocaine. 8 лет назад

      bruh yeah

    • @smocaine.
      @smocaine. 8 лет назад +1

      xD ya

  • @termooh6654
    @termooh6654 8 лет назад

    Thanks for all the work you put into producing these videos. You do a fantastic job on them and I learn a lot on all of them. Keep it up!

  • @nattsurfaren
    @nattsurfaren 8 лет назад +3

    It is really sad that firework rockets are getting replaced with bombs.

  • @jeffswihart1834
    @jeffswihart1834 8 лет назад

    GREAT....Very nicely explained...I'm fasinated with Hybreds

  • @iggypeters5564
    @iggypeters5564 8 лет назад +19

    it isnt rocketscience, oh wait it is.

  • @rustamgani6826
    @rustamgani6826 4 года назад

    I watch that ideas a lot ! And You're the bast!!!
    All guys is good! But You're #1!!!

  • @floorit3669
    @floorit3669 8 лет назад +4

    ow man you make me cringe because your holding the nozzle while drilling it, and i advise not to do that.

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  8 лет назад +6

      The drill press is not very strong. It can be stopped by hand the way I have the belt routed.

  • @GT-fh5no
    @GT-fh5no 4 года назад

    My take home from this was anything that can burn can be moderated in the presence of varying degrees of oxygen, I wondered how the plastic rocket fuelled engines work. Thankyou

  • @lochinvar00465
    @lochinvar00465 8 лет назад

    Good job, great view of the inside. Don't worry about the nozzle being perfect on a "proof of concept" motor. Going bigger than optimum keeps the thrust down and gives a longer burn time, both desirable when you just want to burn it and see how it does. I'm not sure exactly how they determine nozzle size on a hybrid, but on a solid motor, it's some serious math. On a hybrid, you do have another advantage in that chamber pressure is limited by the oxidizer pressure so if your nozzle is too small, you just need to use a oxidizer pressure within the working limits of the motor casing and it won't overpressure as it would if it were a solid propellant. (chamber pressure at or above oxidizer pressure will cut off the combustion)

  • @camilistico
    @camilistico 8 лет назад

    excellent explanation of everything

  • @valtterihuuskonen4207
    @valtterihuuskonen4207 8 лет назад

    Awesome video Ben!

  • @danieladamczyk08
    @danieladamczyk08 7 лет назад +1

    8:16 Flame polishing, the high temperature melts the machined part and produces a clear, smooth finish. Look it up ,it's cool.

  • @alexlandherr
    @alexlandherr 8 лет назад

    Thank you for making this video and i learned something interesting because of your efforts, i really appreciate the time you took too produce this video.

  • @m3sca1
    @m3sca1 8 лет назад

    i remember that applied science vid...nice job. Here's an idea...make a solid fuel rocket on top of the acrylic tube...have it burn rich in oxidiser and you can launch without a bottle.

  • @スペース-o2h
    @スペース-o2h 8 лет назад

    shit, haven't watched nighthawkinlight for years.. Awesome to see his channel has grown big :) I've been here since 20-50k subs.

  • @benslimen7001
    @benslimen7001 8 лет назад

    I bet the ladies would love some of his crafty hands x)

  • @rajaadnan2281
    @rajaadnan2281 6 лет назад

    incredible work sir

  • @freakazoid217
    @freakazoid217 8 лет назад

    awe. I feel like giving him a big ol' hug

  • @MindCrime550
    @MindCrime550 8 лет назад

    I feel like I learned a ton about rockets in general from this video, so I'd like to say thanks before I hurt myself.

  • @braceharvey
    @braceharvey 8 лет назад

    Hey NightHawkInLight, a quick critique/suggestion on your nozzle. if you look at the video, the exhaust isn't attached to the wall of the nozzle. This is flow separation, it happens when the pressure of the gasses in your exhaust are too far below atmospheric pressure, and the atmosphere forces it's way into the nozzle and pinches down on the exhaust giving you that little jet coming through. It's a pretty easy fix though through trail and error, just slowly shrink the outlet diameter until it sticks back to the nozzle wall. Also I'd shrink the center hole to about 7/8 of what it is now.
    edit: looking at it again, it actually seems like the pressure inside the acrylic tube is too low, so maybe an easier fix would be shrinking the diameter of the center hole to increase the pressure.

  • @ilkhgs
    @ilkhgs 8 лет назад

    I like your style. Good freaking job man!