Darksword Has Gotten Much Better! [Read Description for Update]
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2018
- This functional reproduction is inspired by a 10th century hilt and designed to fit within the general style of the time. From what I can tell this is the equivalent to a Petersen Type R, and overall fairly similar to a number of original Viking era finds.
** Specifications **
Overall length: 85.5 cm / 33.5 in
Blade length: 70 cm / 27.5 in
Blade width (widest): 5.2 cm / 2 in
Blade thickness: 5.6 mm / 0.22 in at the guard, tapering down to 3.7 mm / 0.14 in near the tip
Weight: 1.18 kg / 2.6 lbs
Point of balance: 13 cm / 5 in from the guard
Blade material: 5160 high carbon spring steel
Hilt material: Cast bronze
Assembly: Full tang, peened
Time period: 10th - 11th century
** Pros / Cons **
+ Excellent, well tempered blade steel with a very durable edge
+ Strong construction
+ Beautiful decorations
+ Very good handling
- Details on the cast bronze could be more crisp
- Loose scabbard
** Where to get it **
[UPDATE: As it turns out the sword they sent me is not the Oslo but an entirely new model. DSA's statement in a forum was that it would release soon but that was back in April 2018. It seems currently the only models available are still the Oslo and Einar. Unfortunately they didn't tell me about that.]
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DARK SWORD!?
*r1 spamming intensifies*
parry
Riposte
But then they got back up and pwned you
At 0:58 I had a brain malfunction and said 6150 but the blade is indeed made of 5160 steel.
Also, I now found out that this sword is not actually the Oslo but a newer, unreleased model. Would have been nice if they had told me.
Skallagrim have you seen Alex Steele’s Viking sword he made.
@@brice2597 that one is inspired by sword types of the perioed between 900 - 950 ad, type 3 Geibig's with a Victor's type pommel, but it's not trying to be too historically accurate, that damascus pattern is sick and they wouldn't have made it like that at that time. I had to rewatch the part where he explains all of that to write this because god knows I know fuckall about swords
I'm confused as too why the sword in the video is not the same as the one on DSA.
what weight a viking sword Some Thing Betwen 750 gramm and 1800 gramm.
@@Noir1331 i was wondering that too, I have the newer model
I thought they nerfed it in 2017?
They did but the r1 spam is still there.
Praise the sun.
But how fast can you press that r1?
Pre fast🤣👌🏽
No Dark Sword didn't get buffed, the last patch was ages ago... [^:
Skall, as a long-time subscriber (5+ years), I enjoy it when you ramble. It's actually one of the things I subbed to you for in the first place. Please stop being so self-conscious about this. We love you. Keep being you! :)
Why doth thine pommel resist detachment and flight towards thine enemies? How will thine enemies thusly end in a rightly fashion?
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@@cullenhutchison6528 ty. was a hard time editing that one for modern autocorrect
@@adamschaeffer1436 I used to like comments, then I took an pommel to the knee
@@Wazuhuzu None of us are getting younger
Still hard to put trust in them when so many other manufacturers in that pricerange havent got that sort of reputation
Agreed on that one.
Supper late reply but can you explain? Are they not to reputable?
@Juan Kenobi they gave a spotty track record in terms of construction methods, durability, and transparency regarding where their blades are forged.
At least early on, some had insufficiently robust tangs. Some had material failures (Matt Jensen tested one where the guard just snapped like cast iron).
I'm not sure how they are today, I've not been actively following the reproduction market recently
@@IPostSwords ok gotcha thanks man. Do you have any recommendations then? I have been looking at daggers as well as swords and don’t really have a budget I’m more so just looking for quality.
@Juan Kenobi there is a pretty long list of makers who prioritise quality. Probably too long for a youtube comment
Your generic and more serial production options are Albion, and Arms and Armor.
If you go custom, the options widen substantially. A few of my favourites include Mateusz Sulowski, artofswordmaking (maciej kopciuch) - as well as about 100 other makers.
10:40 here skall defies the laws of physics by seemingly folding the sword
Just the power of friendship.
I just love the kinds chunky, short-ish look that Darksword got for their swords...
It is just pleasant to me.
Good to see that we're prepared for the invasion of the tatami mats
Dark sword sounds like the name of a heavy metal band
I really love this sword truly beautiful
Nice review. I enjoyed the dive into historical examples of the timeframe.
Completely right about it not needing more edge. Also any of those grip positions plus more. Vikings loved all their tools.
They should do a blade with no bells and whistles for those looking for a good backyard cutter for a lower cost. Just plain brass or bronze guard/pommel with a plain leather hilt without decorations. Should be able to knock off a few dollars on the price that way.
If you want a backyard cutter for this price range, get an Albion squire line sword. It costs 8 bucks more than the sharpened version of this sword. It doesn't have the useless scabbard...but the quality of the sword and sharpening is worth more than having a useless scabbard. Also it comes with a proper blade geometry as well.
@@ColdNapalm42 I think I'll look into that.
Thanks for the bit about modern typologies and deviations from them. People on sword forums sometimes talk like historical craftsmen built their products according to modern typologies and if it doesn't fit it's not historically accurate.
This thing is just beatiful.
Skall between that i enjoy your contet because of swords and combat, i also love your content because they are very comforting, you say your not a "peoples" person but.... you definetly are very chill, and you are always our internwebs buddy who we can just chat about stuff we like example:history, weapons etc and after some tough days ive always found your content to remind me that to enjoy the little things in life!!! You definetly make our lifes alot more to lokout for, waiting for your videos is always exciting! Never stop doing your thing man!! Your awesome
That thing is gorgeous!
A gorgeous blade. ❤️
The Darkwraiths are the enemies of man... and every living thing that has a soul.
I like the slightly longer grip and the curve on that pommel. A lot of viking reproductions out there combine of small sized grip with a pommel shape that is harsh on the hand for anything but a straight hammer grip.
Darksword has actually sent good quality pieces to high profile reviewers while still building and sending subpar quality swords to regular buyers. EDIT: This is not a proven occurrence beyond anecdotal evidence from the consumer side of several conversations I had.
Now, if all their swords look that good, and their everyday customer reviews keep coming out positive, then those should and will speak for themselves.
What are the quality issues, that seem to persist up until now? Genuinely interested.
That's a very strong allegation. If you have evidence of this, I encourage you to contact Skall and present your evidence. Perhaps someone who buys this model can provide their experience as well. Conversely, though, unsubstantiated allegations of this nature border upon slander, so you open yourself up for a lawsuit if you're just making trouble.
@@Str4vv when I got a Wolfsbane back around 2015 or 2016, I sent it back due to a warp in the blade. I also have a video up where I took screen shots of DSA swords either breaking in use, or images of tangs that were dangerously skinny, and absolutely coated with epoxy.
There were also several people that spoke up after having to send their swords back 4 times or more due to a severe lack of quality control, some of which can be found on my DSA videos.
I got their 14th C arming sword and the finish is rough. The mirror polish was uneven and there were scratches on the blade mostly near the guard. But the sword still functions and the scabbard is very nice.
Looks quite nice. I’d like to add it to my collection.
Very nice viking sword. Bravo Dark Sword.
Always amazes me how flexible sword blades are when shown cutting in slow motion! Even what I would have expected to be a relatively stiff blade such as this one, shows a fair bit of flex! I've seen similar unexpected flex in rifle barrels during firing too to a degree which IF It wasn't consistent, would have a horribly negative effect on accuracy. I spent a good number of years working in my local hospital Emergency Department, and I'm fairly familiar with serious injuries. The amount of damage inflicted by that sword on the 'Ballistics dummy' would without ANY doubt have been quite rapidly fatal! Thick clothing such as a gambeson would however significantly reduced the effect, although it's not something that I'd like to try in real life!
Gorgeous blade
I want a massive ramble vid cuz thatd be awesome
Merry Christmas skall.
Skall make a video on how to hold a Viking sword and ur findings and experiments!
Viking swords (or sverdene) are always fun to look at - and they look badass. Thanks for reviewing this!
Now now. it's just sverd, vikingsverd in this case. Or sverdene if you're trying to say "the swords".
@@Trondtravle thats good to know! Thanks for the correction! Is that the Old norse or current norwegian/swedish/danish language?
@@leifeinaramundison745 Hi, that's in modern norwegian. Old norse was sverð eith a th instead of d written in runes wich my keyboard can't do :O
When you mentioned that peterson chronology, I came to the following question:
How do you come to find such things? That is in general, is there some place where you browse books or papers on swords?
Is this finally the *ballistic sword* you are gonna try on some *viking gel* ...wait....😕😅
What do you think of the DSA
Damascus versions.
I'm considering their ranger sword.
Great Channel.
Thanks
You can fill the gap that you don't like with Dragon's Blood. It's a fairly inexpensive, dense resin that's resistant to shock damage. It's actually been used in east, near east and middle east for thousands of years to do exactly that. Just heat it in a teaspoon over a candle until it melts and starts to form small bubbles in it. Then carefully tip it into the negative space you want to fill (it should creep to fill around to most of the other side, doing it on on side). It's great stuff for keeping moisture , dust and gunk out of small gaps like that.
Do you have to kill the dragon first?
Thanks Skall
I saw in one of Roland's videos, there is also speculation that they sometimes gripped it with the pommel in the palm.
hey skall, would you ever consider a colab with alec steele? he is a great blacksmith and he did a couple of awesome swords but he doesnt realy know how to use them. i mean anyone knows how to swing a sword but not properly, also you could provide some insight as to where he could improve with his swords. he does research on the swords he made but reading something of wikipedia etc is different to talking someone who actualy uses swords etc, he is a great blacksmith and even if youre not up for a colab i still recomend his channel to you because his videos etc are just great
He also doesn't get all the details right on his sword builds. Sometimes small sometimes large.
He should work with skall swordsage scholagladitoria and matthew jensen.
The comparatively large pommels we see on swords out of early Scandinavian history, certainly do leave one with the impression that the extreme handshake grip was typically used. I wonder, even, if the entire point of those broad pommels (as opposed to a smaller pommel) was to solidly register against the inner wrist, while the sword is being swung almost pendulous.
Sword-hilts not fitting with the typologies are mentioned by Petersen in his "De Norske Vikingesverd".
I'm looking forward to your next video on how to properly use å Viking long sword
I've got two Darksword pieces myself. One I got directly from them ( The Danish Two handed ) and the other I got from KoA ( Gothic Two handed )
The Danish one, I ordered sharpened and it came with a really uneven grind, couldn't cut a milk jug full of water, and I think the resulting impact from that might have rattled the tang a bit. I've since put a better edge on it, but I can feel and hear something clicking inside the hilt. Don't know if a strip of wood came loose from impact or if the tang snapped inbetween two rivet points. Sword still seems to work though. Another thing is the finish grind on the blade is a bit uneven, you can see raised and low spots all throughout. Definitely doesn't help with cutting.
The Gothic sword, on the other hand, is really damn immaculate, and KoA put an excellent edge on it. If you look that one up on KoA's website, I left a nice review on it there under the name Matt H. I'd say the only addendum to my prior review I put on there, would be that once you get used to it, the sword actually becomes pretty damn responsive. It's got that thicc diamond cross sections that can weave and cleave. And it's hilt is excellent too, as it takes on the shape of the cross section, lets you index that edge and feel where it's going super easily.
EDIT: Actually make that three, forgot I even had one of the Daggers as well.
I also have their Knight ( Knightly? ) dagger. Got it from KoA with the sharpening service.
All I can say about that one is that it definitely does the job, and that the scabbard needs to be way tighter. You gotta belt that one on really good because the dagger is so hilt balanced(?) that it WILL flip itself upside down and jump right out of that scabbard. It managed to cut my hand a little bit, I went to grab for it but also remembered safety 101 and recoiled my hand back and just let it fall, was too late though, it bit me. Still an excellent dagger though, just belt it tight, or even better, get rid of the straps and slip it into a frog.
So with that in mind, I think it's best if you're gonna buy a Darksword brand sword, you might want to do it through Kult of Athena, as they have a much better quality control. I'm curious how much Dark Sword Armoury stuff they reject every month, might be worth asking them.
That handle is still ENORMOUS. Guess it's back to the drawing board for version 3.
I got a feeling that the handles that remain on those artifacts are only the tangs of the blades, as the actual wooden grips had rotted away ages ago.
that is a beautiful sword.
Thinking of historical accuracy it got me thinking what kind of sword would Conan the Barbarian wield in a more historically accurate version of his world? Anyway nice video Skall! :D
Yeeeeeeeh new video heck yeeeeeeeeeh
For a moment, I thought you meant Dark Souls' Darksword.
Yes, everyone is talking about THAT sword in the comments.
I just bought 2 swords from them. They are a little heavy, as expected. But are brilliant. Sword novice here. Just a lover of them.
Would love to see you review a TFW crusader sword.
I like this sword because is pointy, what i don't like in mogration era swords is their roundosh tip, it doesn't look threatening.
I bet the people who were hacked apart by them beg to disagree
That's because this style is a bit later than the migration era swords you refer to. 'viking age' or early medieval swords are usually slightly pointed like this
I mean, some people rather like the “combat spatula” look.
I don’t; but some do.
Swords needn't be specially pointy, at all, unless you look at very specialised blades.
You wouldn't be saying that if you saw one coming for your head
Isn't this the same sword that broke on a water bottle on Medieval Review? For as good as they may get; I'd suggest to be wary of their QC.
*EDIT:* It was a different viking sword; the Einar. My mistake.
Thanks for the review Skalla, as ive been interested in getting the sword. I was just wonder, in the description it says the length is 27 inch blade and 33 inch overall, but DSA's site lists the sword as being 31 inch blade and 37 inch overall. Is this just a mixup, or are they different for some reason?
I also wanted to point out that the grip looks very different to the one advertised on the site. I know they changed grip after the first itteration of the sword had some backlash, but the one you have seem very different from what Ive seen from other reviewers of the same sword.
The grip actually looks like its from the 'Einar' viking sword DSA have
Yeah, it's a strange mix between the Oslo and Einar. I'm wondering if they haven't updated the Oslo on their website. Otherwise it would be odd since there are no grip customization options. I just double-checked to see if this is actually not the Oslo after all but there is really no other sword that looks like this. I didn't get any extra information on it.
@@Skallagrim ok, thank you for the video anyways, very informative. Appreciate it
Hey skull what do think about miyamoto musashi , would like to see a video on his dual wielding , he used the wakizashi and katana seemingly in actual combat as his primary weapons .please tell me what you think
I have the most success with the handshake grip with the pommel on the wrist, making a quick slash whip motion letting the grip slide just slightly (cast blow) I think Thrand has some videos on this technique.
I just ordered 1... Did i make a good choice?? I was thinking money$$$ so this is why i went through with it. I also have a Dark Sword 12th century Templar.. i love it!!
that was quick
early as the morning sun
People have problems understanding that some common concepts of today have been completely alien to people just 150 years ago. Like exchangeable parts. There were no two identical weapons until exchangeable parts became possible by industrialization and standardization of manufacturing processes. For example, on a class in a barracks where I served we were talking about arms logistics and one of the soldier asked the question why every single part on some old, obsoleted guns were marked with serial numbers or parts of serial number. Instructor, of course, replayed that is was the way it was done back in the day. Stupid answer for stupid people, but question made me think so I grabbed couple of those rifles and mixed the parts. They still work, although not perfectly. So, I did the same with older patern of guns, some pre-WW1 Steyr guns and bolt wouldn't even close. Those rifles might have looked identical, but even that close in our history there was no manufacturing capability to perfectly replicate parts. And somebody really believes that all the swords in 10th - 11th century were the same...
That sword ain't even dark!!!
It's light
Look at the video parts where there is no reflection
It's a joke, dudes
no shit
@@user-js8jh6qq4l No Roman, for realsies!
Cool.
Homeway price their blades quite well so okay for myself the recutting in the casting well yeah I can do that myself but foremost I I agree a little bit more work with the cleaning of the casting would be in order on the other hand they do better bronze casting than I do I end up with holes in my work and have to weld them back with my tig
Skall ! I just received the same sword... now called Urnes Stave Sword by DSA. The Guy who sold me the sword was from australia. He claimed that he got the sword from you. So I am supposed to own the very sword you actually have in this video. My question is have you sold this sword to australia after reviewing ?If have more questions...
This looks like it’s the Urnes Stave Viking Sword
Yeah I still agree with the type K much more when it comes to a grab then again I've got quite large hands
the grip inst that long considering you have small hands they also have to fit medium/large hands it looks more then reasonable to me
or is it to long for that purpose skallagrim?
Skall says the hilt is fairly long yet he forgets to mention he has small hands lol. This would fit in my hand perfectly.
With the amount of play in the scabbard, would it be possible to shim the opening for a tighter fit?
How do you feel about the Vindaaris sword by DarkSword Armory?
Hey Skall, have you had a chance to try Blade & Sorcery yet?
It's a new VR sword fighting game that aims to be fairly realistic, with weapons being weighty instead of floppy GORN swords.
I am never going to put any trust into that company again. Bought the Norman sword from them, about 5 years ago. It was supposed to be peened according to their advertising and at first, it does appear to be. Well, this is not the case.... at least back then. I noticed the Pommel shift and upon further inspection, I was able to unscrew it and voila.....it's a threaded assembly. I don't know how they handle business today but once you get scammed like that, I won't give it anymore trust.
If anyone is wondering about which sword it is on darksword armory it is the urnes stave
Are you from the Icelandic region of Canada?
a sword like that with 2 types of edge sharpening would do very well on Knife or Die . maybe a 2h grip or hand and half instead. those look like they were made for chopping opponents up .
Blade and sorcery, it would be cool if you looked at it
So would the witch king swords be better or are they still iffy?
Measurements Weight and Balance I would pretty much agree that is it that is fully acceptable to be thrown on the side and brought into battle though I am only a hundred and 80 lb blacksmith I think I would be able to use that one quite well going against chain or leather I would be pleased to have that blade in my hand going against plate I would wish for something a slight heavier
The Vikings were hugely physically powerful- they *rowed* their ships intercontinental distances. Ships, not kayaks. The bone strength of their skeletons is insane. *very* strong guys, so they liked hefty weapons. They mostly favoured the axe.
If they rowed all the way to their raiding destinations, why did the boats have sails, my guy?
> darksword
>DS3 flashbacks kicks in
You're awesome
Be nice to know what waist size the sword belt will fit to.
What's your opinion on the ACCURACY of the divine armor from oblivion
Grip looks quite a bit longer than original swords of the period.
Whit the type in Viking swords could be the same like whit the polish saber from the 16 century, where when you both it you would choose witch blade, winch handle and how should it looked like. There was styles ore types of saber but they wary in look. IF you had more money, you could buy something custom maid, if not you would buy a stock version.
"Take this...stupid tree"
I own a Darksword as well.The Knights Bastard sword. I think they do pretty well for a high production speed sword.....I'm still waiting for my Principe' and it's been over a year. My Darksword blade came within a week
You're not getting that sword, if you still can report it or bet a refund
@@ninjafaceify That's just the waiting time on a handmade sword from Albion unfortunately
Would you pay the current price of 805 plus shipping? That seems a bit over the bridge.
Can I get some advise. I just got two stainless steel wall hanger swords. Can I use any store bought stainless steel polish to keep them pretty? I know about alcohol to clean off crap and oiling the blade.
yes.
although you won't want anything abrasive .
Tulkas greatestindeedsofstrengthandprowess Thank you
Is there any way that you could review a 2h handed sword?
has there been any updates on the armour he was having made for him?
To me... it feels so obvious that the hammer grip is what was used. I think guys are over thinking it. The handshake grip and fighting eloquence came much later in history.
DSA Erland sword? Any input or reviews?
I have a question for you and maybe you've already answered this somewhere else but I would like to know your opinion on swords. I'm seeing all kinds of Swords flood the market right now that are like $119 or whatever and they are labeled battle-ready. Then I see kind of a jump in price to 350 up to 500. Then I see a jump in price from 800 to 2,000. I'm looking for a sword that I could spar with that I could actually use but I can't put much confidence in these low-end ones and I'm wondering how they can call them battle ready? My impression is they've got to be just as cheap as dirt because up until a couple of months ago I was seeing all of the swords that were something you could spar with in the 800 and up range. What is going on in the industry? Is it just that they're saying that they are bad already because of the type of Steel that use? Is it because they've come up with a cheaper way of manufacturing something? What would you recommend a person go out and purchase if they plan to use it in they're Hema group?
If you are looking for steel swords to use in HEMA I would recommend you check the type of steel listed (5160 or 6150 is always nice). If the type of steel is not listed either contact the shop you are purchasing from or just don't buy it. Personally if the type of steel is not listed I would click away without hesitation. If it's listed as stainless or mild steel, don't buy it. Also if you are looking for swords to use in HEMA you have to realise that you need swords designed for HEMA (swords that flex more at the weak of the sword, spatulated or rolled tips).
If you're looking for a feder/longsword you can check out ensifer, kvetun or castille armouries(they make a whole bunch more but are way expensive). Blackfencer also makes steel swords these days (they have a good reputation and are quite affordable, orders do take *very* long to make though). I would recommend checking out the channel of Blood and Iron here on youtube, they have a bunch of reviews on gear and practice swords.
@@pineappleonpc3902 thank you for the excellent suggestions! That's the best advice I've gotten and I really do appreciate it
Please don't waste money on very cheap stuff, there is a video called "Cheap Sword Like Objects and Katana Breaks and Fails" that explains why... :)
The thing about Viking sword topology is high quality swords were passed down, you can find older style blades with newer hilts even generations differences or even vice versa. That's makes classifying them by era more difficult than other types of swords. Then you have all the different smiths/artisans making them, they are not churned out of a factory, each smith/artisan has their own style that all swords before manufacturing had. Add in customers desires... Topology is just basic categorization rather than definitive, a better topology system would be each one is a morph target in a 3D program so you can get an idea on the shapes between the topology classed ones.
The peen on that isn't accurate. They peened it to the pommel cap and not the guard, the cap is a decorative/balance cover that hides the peen.
Good review, but... that’s actually NOT the Oslo... that’s the Urnes Stave model (#1526).
Yeah, but Darksword didn't bother with mentioning it. You know, cause they're sooo honest.
Where in Canada are you from?
Skallagrim do you fallow other RUclipsrs , if so look up Alex Steele making the Viking sword.
I
Need
This
Sword
ah i see, i noticed a weird "break" in the reflection on the edge... that is probably the part you resharpened yourself
Nice but too much for me so I’ll still get the ronin Katana one
Does anyone know if this Sword is 'The Einar' on their store instead of the Oslo? From the pictures it looks similar. Thinking this might be a good first sword to get (Even if I end up disliking learning how to use it/spar with a mate who does hema, it would look really nice to put on a wall)