Thank you for taking the time to make this video, guys. I'm getting into this particular industry this upcoming week, and your video was of great assistance.👍🏾💯✔️
Very interesting video. Looks like a very dangerous job he has. I was wondering if you know how many gallons his tanker holds and does the tanker just have a transfer pump or maybe some type of refrigeration system on it for purging air or condensation. One last question, what's the reason for purging the ammonia in the container of water. Thanks for the video
I'm not sure but I have ordered around 3000 gallons before. The tanker does have a pump. The ammonia is anhydrous so there is no moisture and it's kept under pressure so no Refrigeration needed. They purge the ammonia into water to remove the trapped liquid between the hose valve and the system valve.
Anhydrous (means without Water) Which means it will seek water/moisture if all possible. it is safer for them purge with water to have the ammonia cling to the water rather then the person (who are essentially big water bags). When working with Anhydrous Ammonia ensure you have proper ppe (respirator, gloves rated for the material, coveralls) never wear contacts when working with ammonia.
Did you take sample before loading? We first filled our system four years ago and we rejected first two trucks because they had water content over 0.05 percent. Our regional manager said we pay for 99.95 percent purity and wouldn't except anything less because we loaded 68k lbs into system. Also you don't need to run a vent hose also? Only filled our system once and they hooked up two lines to truck. One fill line and other vent line. We have both lines outside where we take on ammonia.
Each week there must be a COA (certificate of Analysis )that must be performed on the product before it is allowed to loaded. To prove the water moisture
The hose always has ammonia in it. This system has an auto purger. This device removes air from industrial ammonia systems. Good catch. Love the comments.
Thanks Daniel ! First site noticed some orange liquid when he was added the ammonia ,what was that rusty water? Be safe out there brother! Heats coming! Design temp coming!
Not really. But when performing service we use Jet pumps to rid of the ammonia. The system has an auto purger as well. This system runs in a vacuum and sometimes sucks air in through the shaft seal. The auto purger then removes the non condensables and a little ammonia is purged with the air. This system hasn't had ammonia fill In over 10 years.
I read an article that said IIAR says ten percent loss per year was acceptable loss. I wonder if that considered charge amount initially since I have 68k lbs of ammonia and a ten percent loss per year would be 6800 lbs. I showed my boss this article and he shrugged and said he never knew what was acceptable loss either since we just know that anything over 100lbs has to be reported to EPA.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, guys. I'm getting into this particular industry this upcoming week, and your video was of great assistance.👍🏾💯✔️
Reminds me of the old days making solution for the adsorption systems. That ammonia and water solution creates chemical energy, heat.
I've only done that once.
Awesome! Thanks for the ride along
Should have a check valve at the supply valve in case his hose ruptures and you lose the system charge.
The first system has one just behind the wall. We've already addressed fill line issue with second system.
Very interesting video. Looks like a very dangerous job he has. I was wondering if you know how many gallons his tanker holds and does the tanker just have a transfer pump or maybe some type of refrigeration system on it for purging air or condensation. One last question, what's the reason for purging the ammonia in the container of water. Thanks for the video
I'm not sure but I have ordered around 3000 gallons before. The tanker does have a pump. The ammonia is anhydrous so there is no moisture and it's kept under pressure so no Refrigeration needed. They purge the ammonia into water to remove the trapped liquid between the hose valve and the system valve.
Anhydrous (means without Water) Which means it will seek water/moisture if all possible. it is safer for them purge with water to have the ammonia cling to the water rather then the person (who are essentially big water bags). When working with Anhydrous Ammonia ensure you have proper ppe (respirator, gloves rated for the material, coveralls) never wear contacts when working with ammonia.
Thanks for share, i have question when the pump is turn on, the pressure inside tank go up?
No. The pump is fed of the bottom of the tank. The ammonia will give off its heat to maintain the pressure temperature saturation of the tank.
Did you take sample before loading? We first filled our system four years ago and we rejected first two trucks because they had water content over 0.05 percent. Our regional manager said we pay for 99.95 percent purity and wouldn't except anything less because we loaded 68k lbs into system. Also you don't need to run a vent hose also? Only filled our system once and they hooked up two lines to truck. One fill line and other vent line. We have both lines outside where we take on ammonia.
I did not take a sample. But thanks for the awareness. I'll ask Hill brother's about this.
Each week there must be a COA (certificate of Analysis )that must be performed on the product before it is allowed to loaded. To prove the water moisture
Thanks for the share.
Thanks For Watching John.
Do you purge air from charging hose before transferring ammonia in to destination system?
The hose always has ammonia in it. This system has an auto purger. This device removes air from industrial ammonia systems. Good catch. Love the comments.
Thanks Daniel ! First site noticed some orange liquid when he was added the ammonia ,what was that rusty water? Be safe out there brother! Heats coming! Design temp coming!
The rust stains are already there. But good observation.
what do you use ammonia for?
Anhydrous Ammonia is used as a Industrial Refrigerant. R717. AKA NH3. Stay tuned to see more vids.
Do ammonia systems leak a lot? 400 gallons seems like a huge amount to have to add.
Not really. But when performing service we use Jet pumps to rid of the ammonia. The system has an auto purger as well. This system runs in a vacuum and sometimes sucks air in through the shaft seal. The auto purger then removes the non condensables and a little ammonia is purged with the air. This system hasn't had ammonia fill In over 10 years.
I read an article that said IIAR says ten percent loss per year was acceptable loss. I wonder if that considered charge amount initially since I have 68k lbs of ammonia and a ten percent loss per year would be 6800 lbs. I showed my boss this article and he shrugged and said he never knew what was acceptable loss either since we just know that anything over 100lbs has to be reported to EPA.
Ammonia suede by pounds not gallons
Not sure what you ment but it's sold by the pound and added to the system by gallons.