As you defend that Caim and Jetro have the same Neshamah, it means that if they are both raised for the everlasting life, they will still have the same Neshamah but with no impurity anymore (because God will make new everything)? As you said individual new "living spirit", it means totally different and if it is so it means that the Neshamah is no longer the same and if it is no longuer the same "who will be with the Neshamah or which body belongs the Neshamah, Caim or Jetro? Be well.
Why is it that people of jewish cultural background don´t eat >>> pork, sea food (except fish), camel, dogs etc......why is it that we can only eat chicken, goat, lam, cow?
flower1921 pig is a nasty animal that eats anything and everything including deceased animal corpses. Non fish sea food like shrimp are the bottom feeders of the sea which is like cockaroaches on land. And dogs? you dont need to be religious to know why
Holocaust DidHappen No you have not. I can easily see that you have not seriously studied Torah or laid out your questions to an informed teacher. Otherwise, you would have given some example of what bothers you. I did read various articles, blogs, and some dissertations from Agnostics, Atheists, and doubters of all backgrounds. If I could I would respond to everyone of them. But time is short, and I have to leave some of the work of convincing people like yourself to others.
7200beverly Wrong again - it seems all that you are capable of doing is making assumptions, baseless ones at that. I guess that kind of modus operandi goes hand-in-hand with those who are easily taken in by their religious indoctrination. I have indeed given you some general examples of what bothers me but our debate has not reached the level of specifics that I could easily get into. But you might want to start with explaining how the timeline for the Torah puts the creation of the world and mankind (as if the two were even created in the same week!) at less than 10,000 years old when we know that the universe is 13.7 billion years old. We also know that there was NO life on earth for a few hundred million years. Earth is about 4.54 billion years old but for around ½ a billion years there was no life and it only started as bacteria about 4 billion years ago.
Holocaust DidHappen I think you are the one that has a voluntary secular indoctrination. This is the first real question that you pose, and I appreciate that. Now we can get into those areas that seem to be bothering you so much that it left you no choice but to renounce what all the great "learned" people before you took for granted. First of all, no human being has the tools to ascertain with certainty the age of the world. The billions of years that you speak about is scientific conjecture based on all kinds of assumptions and circular reasoning. You can verify this point if you really investigate it. So please don't make me go through all the science in this forum. This is why I suggested that you sit down to discuss such matters "in depth" with a Jewish scientist. The point you make about life starting as "bacteria" reveals the foundation of many of your errors. If you were to believe that some supreme power did create the world and it is no accident or just a big bang, then it would be easier for you to grasp how an almighty G-d can create an entire universe in six days and how this could have happened a few thousand years ago. This is, then, my friend where you need to start digging. Is there a G-d? If there is, then most of your questions will disappear. I think you will agree on this one. Now, there are "some" Jewish sources that say that every one of the six days was not 24 hours, but much more. So a claim of billions of years from the beginning of Creation would not contradict Judaism. We can live with that. Actually, some Jewish scientists feel more comfortable with this theory. On the other hand, if you wish to contest the consensus opinion of a world that is only 5775 years old, then as I stated earlier, you have to start from scratch. What I mean "from scratch" is taking an honest in-depth look at one of the most reliable scientific methods for dating objects - C-14. If you study it "properly" - you will discover that even this relatively accurate method is based on certain "assumptions." Therefore, if any of the assumptions are wrong - this method cannot work well for dating anything before 5,000 years. Once you are done with this field of study and understand the potential "flaws" with an otherwise somewhat reliable method, take the next step and ask yourself why not use this method for carbon dating dinosaurs, which some honest scientists did. You will be surprised at the explanation. If you really want to get to the bottom of this, I will try my best to help you.
7200beverly Let's be clear here - I do not pose questions to you but rather challenges to your way of thinking which I think is highly delusional. Also you make the assumption that things "bother me"' but I would use the term "convince me." The learned people that you look up to may have had great intellectual capacities but that does not mean that they studied the right thing at all. My belief is that their pontification, interpretation, and rulings were built on a fragile house of cards. I do not think that anything in our universe presupposes a God. if you want to take it back that far I would say that the idea of the supernatural, omnipotent, omniscient God is more far-fetched than how this world came about. The famous physicist, Lawrence Krauss, wrote a book called "A Universe From Nothing,"' which, drawing from other renowned physicists, astronomers, cosmologists, and others offers a wonderful foundation for understanding of how the universe could indeed come from nothing. The age of the universe is based on a whole lot more than simple conjecture and I really could have predicted that you would use the old switcheroo and change the definition of time so as to explain away a gap of several billion years. Even the presence of dinosaur bones that are millions of years old proves my point and there was a huge span of time between the origin of the universe and the appearance of dinosaurs on this planet. Carbon dating is not the method used to determine the age of rocks and fossils. There are a variey of radiometric techniques that accurately measure the decay of radioactive elements and those methods can confidently measure the age of plant earth at 4.54 billion years. You have no clue about the way in which religious texts have been redacted. Biblical experts even claim that prophecies were added after the actual events or modified to fit with the initial prophecy. The way in which the Jewish sages have taken something like the Torah - clearly written by men and then made claims about an oral law and then started to out-pious one another by adding to these laws is just beyond inane. The Code of Jewish Law for example states that one should not cut one's fingernails and one's toenails on the same day. Really? Just how would this displease God pray tell? And when you listen to rabbis like Rabbi Mizrahi you realize that his outrageous statements are just further down the continuum of lunacy that characterizes not only Judaism but every other religion. You hold to your beliefs with such certitude and yet so do the adherents of every single other religion. That in itself should tell you something - it tells you about the power of early indoctrination and constant reinforcement of those beliefs - brainwashing as it is called. And adherents follow them like blind sheep and never question them and never look for evidence - whether it be historical, archaeological, scientific, or any other type. And then to base your life upon these beliefs and restrict your activities is simply ridiculous to me. If that's your thing then more power to you but no Rabbi is ever going to convince me to change my beliefs and believe me I have already debated with several under RUclips videos.
7200beverly Through your veiled attempt at diplomacy an air of arrogance, haughtiness, superiority, and condescension certainly shines through! You have zero clue about all the ways in which scientists have been able to derive what is a startlingly close estimate to the number of billions of years old that the universe and the earth have been in existence. I have no misconceptions about the Torah, the Oral law the Sages/Chazal, etc. You are the one who has zero evidence - whether scientific, archaeological, historical or otherwise. The mysticism within Judaism makes it that much more hocus-pocus but you probably think that mystics are on a higher plane of consciousness. You laud yourself with being such a spiritual person as if that puts you on a higher level and yet, to me it is all rooted in false belief of a supernatural world in which snakes talk, a woman can be made of a man's rib, and a plethora of other nonsense. Lately when you try and pin Bible thumpers down on that stuff they admit that it's all allegorical and not literal. I still don't see how anyone who, by virtue of studying the Torah or other "sacred" texts can presume to know what happens to us after we die, that we can be reincarnated, that our soul lives on even though we are dead, etc. it might interest you to know that 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences reject the concept of God. “Nature” June, 2007
Love him and learn so much from him !!!
Very Educative. Knowledge of Judaism.
Inspiring speech
33: 58 The inverse of which is when somebody tells me not to worry, it is when I begin to worry
As you defend that Caim and Jetro have the same Neshamah, it means that if they are both raised for the everlasting life, they will still have the same Neshamah but with no impurity anymore (because God will make new everything)? As you said individual new "living spirit", it means totally different and if it is so it means that the Neshamah is no longer the same and if it is no longuer the same "who will be with the Neshamah or which body belongs the Neshamah, Caim or Jetro? Be well.
Don't animals strugle to get to that food?
been here
I was trying to reply your message from that video about "reincarnation" but i couldn't, that's why i replied here.
Why is it that people of jewish cultural background don´t eat >>> pork, sea food (except fish), camel, dogs etc......why is it that we can only eat chicken, goat, lam, cow?
flower1921 pig is a nasty animal that eats anything and everything including deceased animal corpses. Non fish sea food like shrimp are the bottom feeders of the sea which is like cockaroaches on land. And dogs? you dont need to be religious to know why
A long speech filled with declaratory sentences and supposed truths that are all totally unprovable, questionable, and likely delusional.
Holocaust DidHappen No you have not. I can easily see that you have not seriously studied Torah or laid out your questions to an informed teacher. Otherwise, you would have given some example of what bothers you. I did read various articles, blogs, and some dissertations from Agnostics, Atheists, and doubters of all backgrounds. If I could I would respond to everyone of them. But time is short, and I have to leave some of the work of convincing people like yourself to others.
7200beverly Wrong again - it seems all that you are capable of doing is making assumptions, baseless ones at that. I guess that kind of modus operandi goes hand-in-hand with those who are easily taken in by their religious indoctrination. I have indeed given you some general examples of what bothers me but our debate has not reached the level of specifics that I could easily get into. But you might want to start with explaining how the timeline for the Torah puts the creation of the world and mankind (as if the two were even created in the same week!) at less than 10,000 years old when we know that the universe is 13.7 billion years old. We also know that there was NO life on earth for a few hundred million years. Earth is about 4.54 billion years old but for around ½ a billion years there was no life and it only started as bacteria about 4 billion years ago.
Holocaust DidHappen I think you are the one that has a voluntary secular indoctrination. This is the first real question that you pose, and I appreciate that. Now we can get into those areas that seem to be bothering you so much that it left you no choice but to renounce what all the great "learned" people before you took for granted.
First of all, no human being has the tools to ascertain with certainty the age of the world. The billions of years that you speak about is scientific conjecture based on all kinds of assumptions and circular reasoning. You can verify this point if you really investigate it. So please don't make me go through all the science in this forum. This is why I suggested that you sit down to discuss such matters "in depth" with a Jewish scientist.
The point you make about life starting as "bacteria" reveals the foundation of many of your errors. If you were to believe that some supreme power did create the world and it is no accident or just a big bang, then it would be easier for you to grasp how an almighty G-d can create an entire universe in six days and how this could have happened a few thousand years ago. This is, then, my friend where you need to start digging. Is there a G-d? If there is, then most of your questions will disappear. I think you will agree on this one.
Now, there are "some" Jewish sources that say that every one of the six days was not 24 hours, but much more. So a claim of billions of years from the beginning of Creation would not contradict Judaism. We can live with that. Actually, some Jewish scientists feel more comfortable with this theory. On the other hand, if you wish to contest the consensus opinion of a world that is only 5775 years old, then as I stated earlier, you have to start from scratch. What I mean "from scratch" is taking an honest in-depth look at one of the most reliable scientific methods for dating objects - C-14. If you study it "properly" - you will discover that even this relatively accurate method is based on certain "assumptions." Therefore, if any of the assumptions are wrong - this method cannot work well for dating anything before 5,000 years. Once you are done with this field of study and understand the potential "flaws" with an otherwise somewhat reliable method, take the next step and ask yourself why not use this method for carbon dating dinosaurs, which some honest scientists did. You will be surprised at the explanation. If you really want to get to the bottom of this, I will try my best to help you.
7200beverly Let's be clear here - I do not pose questions to you but rather challenges to your way of thinking which I think is highly delusional. Also you make the assumption that things "bother me"' but I would use the term "convince me." The learned people that you look up to may have had great intellectual capacities but that does not mean that they studied the right thing at all. My belief is that their pontification, interpretation, and rulings were built on a fragile house of cards.
I do not think that anything in our universe presupposes a God. if you want to take it back that far I would say that the idea of the supernatural, omnipotent, omniscient God is more far-fetched than how this world came about. The famous physicist, Lawrence Krauss, wrote a book called "A Universe From Nothing,"' which, drawing from other renowned physicists, astronomers, cosmologists, and others offers a wonderful foundation for understanding of how the universe could indeed come from nothing.
The age of the universe is based on a whole lot more than simple conjecture and I really could have predicted that you would use the old switcheroo and change the definition of time so as to explain away a gap of several billion years. Even the presence of dinosaur bones that are millions of years old proves my point and there was a huge span of time between the origin of the universe and the appearance of dinosaurs on this planet.
Carbon dating is not the method used to determine the age of rocks and fossils. There are a variey of radiometric techniques that accurately measure the decay of radioactive elements and those methods can confidently measure the age of plant earth at 4.54 billion years.
You have no clue about the way in which religious texts have been redacted. Biblical experts even claim that prophecies were added after the actual events or modified to fit with the initial prophecy.
The way in which the Jewish sages have taken something like the Torah - clearly written by men and then made claims about an oral law and then started to out-pious one another by adding to these laws is just beyond inane. The Code of Jewish Law for example states that one should not cut one's fingernails and one's toenails on the same day. Really? Just how would this displease God pray tell? And when you listen to rabbis like Rabbi Mizrahi you realize that his outrageous statements are just further down the continuum of lunacy that characterizes not only Judaism but every other religion. You hold to your beliefs with such certitude and yet so do the adherents of every single other religion. That in itself should tell you something - it tells you about the power of early indoctrination and constant reinforcement of those beliefs - brainwashing as it is called. And adherents follow them like blind sheep and never question them and never look for evidence - whether it be historical, archaeological, scientific, or any other type. And then to base your life upon these beliefs and restrict your activities is simply ridiculous to me. If that's your thing then more power to you but no Rabbi is ever going to convince me to change my beliefs and believe me I have already debated with several under RUclips videos.
7200beverly Through your veiled attempt at diplomacy an air of arrogance, haughtiness, superiority, and condescension certainly shines through! You have zero clue about all the ways in which scientists have been able to derive what is a startlingly close estimate to the number of billions of years old that the universe and the earth have been in existence.
I have no misconceptions about the Torah, the Oral law the Sages/Chazal, etc. You are the one who has zero evidence - whether scientific, archaeological, historical or otherwise. The mysticism within Judaism makes it that much more hocus-pocus but you probably think that mystics are on a higher plane of consciousness. You laud yourself with being such a spiritual person as if that puts you on a higher level and yet, to me it is all rooted in false belief of a supernatural world in which snakes talk, a woman can be made of a man's rib, and a plethora of other nonsense. Lately when you try and pin Bible thumpers down on that stuff they admit that it's all allegorical and not literal. I still don't see how anyone who, by virtue of studying the Torah or other "sacred" texts can presume to know what happens to us after we die, that we can be reincarnated, that our soul lives on even though we are dead, etc.
it might interest you to know that 93% of the members of the National
Academy of Sciences reject the concept of God.
“Nature” June, 2007