I used to work with raw and toughened glass. Once it's been heat treated, hitting the glass square on you could potentially break your hand before the glass breaks but if you dink it on a corner lightly with a hammer it will shatter into a thousands pieces. Unfortunately for PC enthusiasts, if you're gonna drop it, it's very very likely you'll drop it on a corner :D
In my much younger days I worked at a convenience store where we had some arcade machines and a couple pinballs. There was a guy who always played the Pacman and was reasonably good but when he'd lose, he'd punch the glass. Eventually, he actually managed to break it. We had it replaced by quarter inch plexi with a reinforced frame around the inner side. I was there the first time he played it after that. He eventually lost and punched it extra hard like he was trying to shatter it again. There was zero give or flex in the new panel. The look of shock and cry of pain as he held his very bruised though not broken hand was priceless. He never punched it again.
LEXAN is absolutely insane. No one would ever be able to break that by hand, not in a million years. Hell, not even with a hammer Edit: Mixed up Plexi with LEXAN
@@ArtisChronicles Only problem with both plexi and LEXAN is that they are not very scratch resistant whatsoever, even wiping heavy dust off them will scratch them. That's why cases are going with tempered glass mostly, looks and cleaning convenience.
The second one actually survived the initial impact, but it bounced and shattered once the corner hit the ground. The inclusion of the slow-mo camera was great, thanks Jay.
13:04 Fully pretensioned/tempered glass hould break into small bits & pieces, but there's also annealed/semi-tempered glass, which breaks into bigger shards, closer to float glass. And depending on the tempering process, any forms in between fully and semi-tempered glass.
@@deminybs Funnily enough, I found out recently that his alarm is a lever that places a random electronic device into one of his hands and a small taser to force him to throw the device.
3:20 Not only tempered glass, also float glass has the same problem to a similar degree. The problem is not the tempering (hardening/pretensioning), it's due to glass being an ideal elastic material with absolutely zero (or close to zero) plastic deformation capability. And especially point loads cause hugh stress concentrations, leading quite easily to stresses above yield/break limit of the glass.
I see so many posts on reddit about broken panels as well but i've used it for a long time and never broken any either. Experimental videos like this are fun!
I mean yeah took some hard work for sure, but like 1/3 of jaytober was "updated" versions of previous videos 🤣🤣 oh yeah I got me a Jayztwocents coffee mug like a year ago and almost immediately the handle broke haha. luckily I had super glue
I am now a lot less worried about shattering my first side panel now. Thank you for this educational video I think this will help a lot of people with anxiety about tempered glass side panel’s 😁👍
As someone who works with tempered glass on a regular in the window industry. If you hit the corner it will almost always "spiderweb shatter". It's baked glass no inner layer it's not laminate , you have pieces of triple strength and single check it with calipers and you will find it.
I couldn't agree more. Some days I don't even watch new episodes, just so that I can 'binge' a couple of episodes. They truly spoiled us with Jaytober.
When I was an EMT in the 80's, we used those spring loaded center punches to break tempered glass (car side windows.) The pinpoint strike is all you needed.
Woe Jay. You really needed Applied Science's recent video on viewing stress with polarized film and a monotone light (sodium, single color led, etc). It would have been really cool to see after each drop, inspecting the glass with a camera and film to see if we could see any accumulated stress. I always took for granted heavily tensioned materials to either have enough energy to stay together or enough to explode with no real in-between like sheet metal where there's a lot of in-between before it bends too far. Polarized films would help see what each element of abuse did and how much if any.
yeah i knew about how to view the internal stresses on the glass from the tempering process via a polarizer we just…didn’t, because why do extra work when we can just get to throwing stuff at it 😂 i’m happy with letting smartereveryday or mark rober or veritasium do the real science stuff hahah
I'm really glad you did this test. Puts a lot of mind goblins to rest for a lot of people. I'm more and more a solid side panel person, so I'm just here for glass shattering
@@BrawndoQC yay! I found another one! I was starting to think i was the only open case guy out there... Edit: and yes, i have forgotten where I put some of my side panels too... I consider them lost at this point.
I enjoyed this video, it does give a little more confidence. However keep in mind glass over time can get stress fractures, if it's already previously stressed it can take very little to break. At the start Jay hit it with a stick and said it doesn't break well that way, it actually breaks very well that way if you pierce it. Still it's good to know they can handle a little more abuse than expected.
I've heard that ceramic tile floors are the worst for glass side panels, that literally just placing it on tile could break it due to how the tile has no impact absorbance. Even less than concrete apparently. I'd love to see you test it with tile!
It has less to impact and more with the Mohs hardness. Ceramic is as hard or harder then glass. When you set glass on ceramic, the ceramic will cause level 6 scratches and level 7 grooves. Once tempered glass has been scratched, you caused a stress point that can cause the tension in crystal chains to be disrupted and glass to immediately break. If you want a good example of how this works, look up Rupert Drops.
This is a meme on the pcmasterrace subreddit at the moment because there seems to be multiple people every day shattering their glass side panels by placing them on a tiled floor
My experience building PCs over the years has told me that basically ALL PC components are far more resilient than you would think. Inserting brand-new DRAM into a brand-new Mainboard always requires just a BIT more force than I feel comfortable applying - and it's always perfectly fine.
"This should be an interesting, relaxing, and informative video." Jay doesn't wear enclosed shoes/boots, long pants, or gloves. "Knowing Jay wouldn't post a serious injury video doesn't halt my anxiety much."
I've had my Corsair 5000X RGB tempered glass side panel break just seconds after laying it down on soft plush carpet, and no there was nothing underneath buried in carpet to break it. It exploded only seconds after laying it flat on carpet. I had a Phanteks Evolv TG panel like the one you have in this video for nearly 5-6 years and never had an issue, but the Corsair one was done in less than a month. The warranty was easy and they replaced it no problem, they actually sent me the wrong side panel so now I have a spare panel in addition to the one that needed replacing. What I've learned is that if the surface isn't maleable or there is almost no give then TG will shatter and or explode. Don't ever leave or lay down TG on ceramic surfaces or tiles.
I had a fish tank that's tempered. A pointy rock fell inside the tank, under water, and blew out the entire side. Tempered glass does well against blunt force, but anything pointy, and you're in for a mess.
i got a 100 gallon earlier this year. i bought the glass canopies for it and like an idiot tried to see how well they fit on it while the tank was empty. the canopy fell to the bottom (29 inches). the canopy landed on its corner on the bottom glass. i took the canopy out and it looked fine, only a small chip in the bottom of the tank. i put the canopy away. when i finally set the tank up i went to get the canopy only to find that it had completely shattered after i put it away. not fun cleaning tiny shards of glass out of the carpet.
Also a reason why so many have tried to punch someone through driver side window on a vehicle, and have either broken their hand, or actually broken the tempered glass with a heap of brute force as it takes quite a substantial force. So if your able to break a car side window with your fist you can punch pretty dam hard.
8:50 It's fascinating that the glass shattered mid-air after bouncing off the concrete. Like it absorbed the impact energy and then the vibrations took a while to hit a weaker spot or accumulate in one place to break the surface. Amazing.
I was setting up a pre-built a few years ago on a hard topped table. Took off the side panel to remove the shipping packaging from inside the tower and the glass panel slipped out of my hands from the screw height straight down onto the table. Immediately shattered, only saving grace was I hadn't pealed the protective plastic off yet which ended up holding the pieces in place. Used part of the cardboard shipping box as a side panel for about 4 years until I recently switched it to a new case
Why didn't you just... Contact the prebuilt company and get a replacement? I've broken a side panel and gotten a replacement from NZXT before. Should've been under warranty.
@@moorhen6156 it insulates it from my room. I have it alongside cardboard s and other foam with painters tape and I pull cold air directly from outside.but I like on dirt roads so either way my PC was gonna get dusty. Cold temps now tho.
Jay there's a little more complexity to tempered glass, you impact it with something, the tension shifts in the glass slowly compromising the atomic structure of it. so as you drop it over and over again, the glass basically becomes more and more unstable till it just breaks from it's own internal tension
Jay, I am a retired cop from California. I had a string of car burglaries and the side windows were the point of entry used to get the items out of the cars. the method to break the glass was to strike the windows with the ceramic from the top of spark plugs. That ceramic is so hard it shattered the glass on the first try. The crooks used to break the ceramic off and put it in necklaces they could wear so they were always ready.
I broke my TT Core G21 by tilting the glass into the side of the case so I could screw it. Dropping and smacking it against objects did nothing but having the holes lined up correctly did it. One of the manufacturers need to do a collaboration with Corning for Gorilla Glass or provide replacement parts.
We once cleared out a big cellar bar and found a old CRT we then tried to break by throwing a hammer at it. Those things could take quite a beating and i cant even remember how many throws it took until it imploded. ... quite impressive !
It doesn't take much: I have a Fractal Meshify, the glass panel exploded when I attached it to the case after installing more cooling. I didn't drop it, I didn't apply any pressure - I literally just put it against the case and *boom*
Thank you for doing the unspeakable things we can´t do, this is and watering the GPUs like a daisy Pot has been actually very educational in how much can take to kill them, thank you madman
I had a tempered glass door, from an entertainment stand, out in my yard for years. I would use it when I needed to work on a flat surface, or put it over pots when gardening, like an improvised cold frame. After several years of sitting outside in New England weather, one day I picked it up and it just exploded! I wasn't surprised when it happened, just very disappointed it was gone. Even my cats enjoyed sitting on it, because it would be warmer than the driveway.
I love this. I had a heavy ass dining table like 110lbs was just the glass alone. So I wrapped it in two thick blankets and then hit the corner with a hammer it and it sharted perfectly. Made it easier to carry from basement to recycling lol
Stick to cases with plexiglass side panels. They're lightweight, they don't break, and who wants a reflective surface on their PC they have to clean all the time anyway?
I can confirm a double pane tempered glass window, 6 foot x 6 foot, can stop a bullet. Both panes shatter but all of the bullets momentum is gone and the bullet falls with the shattered glass. Yes, we used to have a stupid kid in the neighborhood.
If you want it to be incredibly strong, just laminate it both sides with a proper laminator. You'll barely notice the difference, but it will become increadibly hard to break. The windows in sky scrapers are laminated tempered glass and can survive a direct brick throw at it or collision with a bird at 60mph.
I think the worst part about tempered glass, is IF you do drop it, i feel like it could be a time bomb at some point depending on how bad the drop was. I just imagine sleeping in the middle of the night and then it just explodes because of an air pressure change in the room
Used to work in a window factory, at the end of our shift we would trash the glass with defects and tempered glass was always the most fun. Takes ALOT to break when throwing stuff at it, we would chuck hammers at it and nothing....tap the edge of course and it shatters easily.
Dimitri: makes a community post about how he broke a tempered glass panel for the first time in a while Jay: well, better pay tribute to the statistical gods.
Jay’s wife: soo your wearing shorts n flip flops today… whatcha doing today Jay: Not sure I figure it out. (Later that day) Jay: today we are breaking glass…
The "safety" comes in the form of the edging of the break being generally blunt. That Phantex ....that was like Steve cutting open a heat pipe to find the maker lied about it LMAO
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say, but shards of broken tempered glass are like tiny little razors, and I have the scars to prove it. The "safety" aspect is, unlike regular plate glass, when it breaks, you don't have one or multiple large edges that could potentially kill someone.
@@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 Generally blunt, not all are formulated the same. I've had a few cars over the years, that have lost their windows sides and back, every one has been smooth in the hand, not sharp, almost plastic to the touch without being plastic laminate glass. Ive had the same with glass shower doors (bare feet, not a cut). And yes, I had a co-op student I had to give time off to, his best friend tripped going down stairs at another friends home, the glass coffee table he impacted caused fatal injuries before the ambulance arrived. That wasn't tempered glass.
i work with tempered glass everyday, i’ve never come across a broken piece that was blunt, as big name above said the safety comes from breaking into multiple little pieces
@@Hick25 entirely probable that my experience is with a different glass. I equate tempered with safety and that could be why the glass breakage I've experience has been the way it was.
About 25 yrs ago I had an audio component rack that had a tempered glass hinged door on it and one day when I was removing it for cleaning I started to slide the top hinge off of it's pin (which at the time I had not realized that the bottom hinge pin was actually longer than the top one) and as soon as the top hinge freed from the pin the weight of the glass shifted in my hands while the bottom pin still had a leverage and thus the slight tilting force shattered the glass so fast that it appeared as if a bucket of water was dropping but, of course it was not water just a thousand tiny water sized droplets of tempered glass all of the hardwood floor...at the time I was wearing shorts but yet I did not receive a single cut...I guess that's the safety part that Jay spoke of ;)
The impact test relieved me a lot, because i have my pc case sitting right next to me due to space limitations so sometimes i hit it with my elbow. If it doesn't break with a hammer thrown at it it definetely won't break with my elbow
I’m very thankful for this video I can tell that the thicker glass was from a Lian li lancool and that gives me some reassurance for my own rig that’s in one
This video here is why I am really against tempered glass or anything glass for a side panel (and yes I do have one case with a glass side panel mainly because of the functionality of the case itself). When you changing out parts in the case trying to find a place to put the side panel safely this is why accidents like this can be dangerous to avoid. This is why I am fully supportive of using Acrylic side panels, which are so much more resilient and much less prone to accidents but yes I know that scratching it doesn't make it look great and cannot be easily be fixed compared to tempered, which can be cleaned up more on that side of things. I seriously think PC Case Manufactures need to go back to Acrylic side panels (and develop them further to fix scratching) or I wonder if some form of Acrylic/tempered glass hybrid could be made so it makes the side panel stronger to prevent breakage like this with pure tempered. Or is it not possible to combined both types?
A broken piece of spark plug insulator would like to have a word with you. Get a spark plug and a hammer. Hit the insulator (the white part) of the spark plug with the hammer until it breaks into a few pieces. Take a piece of the now broken insulator (it will be sharp beyond belief, wear mechanics gloves to pick up the pieces). Even a relatively soft toss will completely shatter a tempered glass window as long as one of the sharp sides impacts the glass first. It is almost entirely silent when it breaks as well. Tempered glass is great for blunt impacts and bumps but can't handle a direct impact with something very sharp. This is a feature of tempered glass, not a flaw which many people seem to think. It is made this way so if you get into a car accident strong enough to where the door windows break, the glass ends up as tiny little pieces with mostly blunt edges to reduce the risk of lacerations as the pieces are thrown around the car. The windshield is made of laminated glass so throwing a spark plug insulator piece at the windshield will likely just have it bounce back at you. It would be interesting to see if any case manufactures are lying about their tempered glass claims as this method would expose that for sure. Plus it is neat to see tempered glass break with this method as it is almost completely silent, especially when compared to breaking a non-tempered piece where you get the classic glass breaking sound heard in movies.
i've had the phantex evolv (enthoo evolv actually; the big one) case for years now and managed never to break it. I've tapped it on the fake wood floor paneling in my basement a couple of times and freaked out but never tapped it on concrete or kitchen tiles or anything "harder" this is such a great video idea
Just in case you were curious I think the 3rd panel introduced (that jay didn't know where it came from, had a frame) was from a lian li lancool II. I bought one after seeing your original video and the panel looks just like mine.
I've Installed 1200 black temperd 4mm class panels 80x140cm on a building last year. A few times a panel would just explode in your hands when holding them or a singel grain of sand when you put it aside when reaching for something would make them explode. Sturdy and surpringly flexable as well some times, it was pretty cheap class so quality was a bit of a mixed bag. Fun project though
What an interesting video. Especially because we have sauna doors made of this stuff here, and people (kids, drunks) do slam the doors quite a bit, might bump them with solid objects, whatever. They're considered safe enough for that kind of frequent "life happens" use. They usually have no frame of any kind (as in frames like the metal ones on the video), just a large glass sheet with hinges and a knob attached to it. Ours is around 180x84CM (5'11" x 2'9"). Judging from the video I would presume that there is good and not so good quality glass available for various purposes, and for something like a large, very heavy door that is meant to be used while butt naked by everyone in the family (so no shard or crushing protection whatsoever) you wouldn't cheap out. And now I'm wondering if the material needs to be in any way "special" when it comes to thermal qualities since the top part of the door can be in contact with 100C/212F+ temperature air from one side, significantly cooler on the other. Kind of like what can happen to a side panel with high thermal load PC in a cold country I suppose. (Opening a window in winter for fresh air and all that...)
The hammer part is actually very important. hitting it with a falt part of the hammer didn't break it, but hitting it with the curve of the hammer's head at an angle did and i'm sure you can consistently repeat this and the hammer won't break it when hitting the glass with a flat part and wil ALWAYS break it when hitting it with a corner
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I used to work with raw and toughened glass. Once it's been heat treated, hitting the glass square on you could potentially break your hand before the glass breaks but if you dink it on a corner lightly with a hammer it will shatter into a thousands pieces. Unfortunately for PC enthusiasts, if you're gonna drop it, it's very very likely you'll drop it on a corner :D
Murphy's Law.... Science!!!
Yeah, Science!
Unfortunately for me...very true
Sweet video loved it so satisfying
I did this exact thing to my side panel almost a year ago, still haven't replaced it. :(
In my much younger days I worked at a convenience store where we had some arcade machines and a couple pinballs. There was a guy who always played the Pacman and was reasonably good but when he'd lose, he'd punch the glass. Eventually, he actually managed to break it. We had it replaced by quarter inch plexi with a reinforced frame around the inner side. I was there the first time he played it after that. He eventually lost and punched it extra hard like he was trying to shatter it again. There was zero give or flex in the new panel. The look of shock and cry of pain as he held his very bruised though not broken hand was priceless. He never punched it again.
LEXAN is absolutely insane. No one would ever be able to break that by hand, not in a million years. Hell, not even with a hammer
Edit: Mixed up Plexi with LEXAN
@@PPedroFernandes now that sounds like a material I'd want a side panel made from.
@@ArtisChronicles Only problem with both plexi and LEXAN is that they are not very scratch resistant whatsoever, even wiping heavy dust off them will scratch them. That's why cases are going with tempered glass mostly, looks and cleaning convenience.
The second one actually survived the initial impact, but it bounced and shattered once the corner hit the ground. The inclusion of the slow-mo camera was great, thanks Jay.
Jay: "It feels wrong to throw this"
*throws 3080 multiple times..
Once you throw it once, you've "ripped off that bandaid" so to speak.
Jay: "How hard is it break"
Viewer: "It feels wrong to read this"
Also Jay: **breaks grammar 3080 more times**
SCIENCE!
If anything else, I just like the random shenanigans Jay, Phil and Nick get into. It's always hilarious.
Team 🙏
Yeah, science
13:04 Fully pretensioned/tempered glass hould break into small bits & pieces, but there's also annealed/semi-tempered glass, which breaks into bigger shards, closer to float glass. And depending on the tempering process, any forms in between fully and semi-tempered glass.
Jay: how hard is it to break stuff Linus: hold my beer!
To be fair Linus is "how hard is it to drop stuff"
Linus drops stuff in his sleep
*hold my LTT water bottle
@@rivianhunter come one now Linus doesnt drink beer
@@deminybs Funnily enough, I found out recently that his alarm is a lever that places a random electronic device into one of his hands and a small taser to force him to throw the device.
3:20 Not only tempered glass, also float glass has the same problem to a similar degree. The problem is not the tempering (hardening/pretensioning), it's due to glass being an ideal elastic material with absolutely zero (or close to zero) plastic deformation capability. And especially point loads cause hugh stress concentrations, leading quite easily to stresses above yield/break limit of the glass.
I love how Jay is reluctant to throw that busted 3080, then all of a sudden just yeets it at the panel.
I see so many posts on reddit about broken panels as well but i've used it for a long time and never broken any either. Experimental videos like this are fun!
31 days of Jaytober amuses me. This has to be a TON of hard work. I will support you 100% by winning one of those GPUs.
I mean yeah took some hard work for sure, but like 1/3 of jaytober was "updated" versions of previous videos 🤣🤣
oh yeah I got me a Jayztwocents coffee mug like a year ago and almost immediately the handle broke haha. luckily I had super glue
Me too, if I win the GPU, i promise I'll be a supporter forever. Haha
I’m a win guys relax it’s okay
Pfftt, you guys thought you gonna win.
Not to be that guy but.... 31 days.
I am now a lot less worried about shattering my first side panel now. Thank you for this educational video I think this will help a lot of people with anxiety about tempered glass side panel’s 😁👍
As someone who works with tempered glass on a regular in the window industry. If you hit the corner it will almost always "spiderweb shatter". It's baked glass no inner layer it's not laminate , you have pieces of triple strength and single check it with calipers and you will find it.
What?
i'm qurious how the pro's cut this kind of glass, a simple glasscutter doesn't do it because it will shatter when trying to snap the cut.
@@diaman_d it's done on the cutting table before going to a tempering oven.
@@smiller0009 ahaaa, that explains a lot. thanx
10:45 Jay has surpassed even Linus! Throwing RTX 3080 to break glass!
I'm going to be sad when Jaytober is over. Not least because I love (Phil's I assume) wonderful Halloween intro, but also random fun like this.
i booted up RUclips and saw this video and was like oh yes that's exactly what I want to watch. jaytober is top tier entertainment
I couldn't agree more. Some days I don't even watch new episodes, just so that I can 'binge' a couple of episodes. They truly spoiled us with Jaytober.
I used to work in a solar panel factory, the panels we produced used 1.6m by 1m tempered glass sheets, having one of those pop was scary as hell.
No way?! Do you know Izan Reltih? He was my boss.
@@Puxi don’t recognize the name, but there where over 300 people at the factory so I didn’t know half the names 😝
When I was an EMT in the 80's, we used those spring loaded center punches to break tempered glass (car side windows.) The pinpoint strike is all you needed.
Woe Jay. You really needed Applied Science's recent video on viewing stress with polarized film and a monotone light (sodium, single color led, etc). It would have been really cool to see after each drop, inspecting the glass with a camera and film to see if we could see any accumulated stress. I always took for granted heavily tensioned materials to either have enough energy to stay together or enough to explode with no real in-between like sheet metal where there's a lot of in-between before it bends too far. Polarized films would help see what each element of abuse did and how much if any.
yeah i knew about how to view the internal stresses on the glass from the tempering process via a polarizer
we just…didn’t, because why do extra work when we can just get to throwing stuff at it 😂
i’m happy with letting smartereveryday or mark rober or veritasium do the real science stuff hahah
I'm really glad you did this test. Puts a lot of mind goblins to rest for a lot of people. I'm more and more a solid side panel person, so I'm just here for glass shattering
I'm an open case guy. I don't remember where I left my glass panel.
@@BrawndoQC yay! I found another one! I was starting to think i was the only open case guy out there...
Edit: and yes, i have forgotten where I put some of my side panels too... I consider them lost at this point.
@@BrawndoQC Same for me lol
oh man this is the most satisfying and enjoying video I have seen in this entire week!
I enjoyed this video, it does give a little more confidence.
However keep in mind glass over time can get stress fractures, if it's already previously stressed it can take very little to break.
At the start Jay hit it with a stick and said it doesn't break well that way, it actually breaks very well that way if you pierce it.
Still it's good to know they can handle a little more abuse than expected.
That was very amusing. I throughly enjoyed Jay's brand of science.
I've heard that ceramic tile floors are the worst for glass side panels, that literally just placing it on tile could break it due to how the tile has no impact absorbance. Even less than concrete apparently. I'd love to see you test it with tile!
I'd believe it. Chipped off bits of ceramic from spark plugs can shatter a car window without any difficulty due to how sharp and hard ceramic is.
It has less to impact and more with the Mohs hardness. Ceramic is as hard or harder then glass. When you set glass on ceramic, the ceramic will cause level 6 scratches and level 7 grooves. Once tempered glass has been scratched, you caused a stress point that can cause the tension in crystal chains to be disrupted and glass to immediately break. If you want a good example of how this works, look up Rupert Drops.
@@Randomstand Admittedly I don't know much about the science behind it, I just know tile is supposed to be the worst! Thanks for the insight
This is a meme on the pcmasterrace subreddit at the moment because there seems to be multiple people every day shattering their glass side panels by placing them on a tiled floor
@@a1000yrsofpain *insight
My experience building PCs over the years has told me that basically ALL PC components are far more resilient than you would think. Inserting brand-new DRAM into a brand-new Mainboard always requires just a BIT more force than I feel comfortable applying - and it's always perfectly fine.
"This should be an interesting, relaxing, and informative video."
Jay doesn't wear enclosed shoes/boots, long pants, or gloves.
"Knowing Jay wouldn't post a serious injury video doesn't halt my anxiety much."
Those shoes were bulletproof man, come on.
Lol
I dunno, I reckon he would.
It's Jaytober, we're ment to be scared xDDD
I've had my Corsair 5000X RGB tempered glass side panel break just seconds after laying it down on soft plush carpet, and no there was nothing underneath buried in carpet to break it. It exploded only seconds after laying it flat on carpet. I had a Phanteks Evolv TG panel like the one you have in this video for nearly 5-6 years and never had an issue, but the Corsair one was done in less than a month. The warranty was easy and they replaced it no problem, they actually sent me the wrong side panel so now I have a spare panel in addition to the one that needed replacing. What I've learned is that if the surface isn't maleable or there is almost no give then TG will shatter and or explode. Don't ever leave or lay down TG on ceramic surfaces or tiles.
I had a fish tank that's tempered. A pointy rock fell inside the tank, under water, and blew out the entire side. Tempered glass does well against blunt force, but anything pointy, and you're in for a mess.
what the fish
i got a 100 gallon earlier this year. i bought the glass canopies for it and like an idiot tried to see how well they fit on it while the tank was empty. the canopy fell to the bottom (29 inches). the canopy landed on its corner on the bottom glass. i took the canopy out and it looked fine, only a small chip in the bottom of the tank. i put the canopy away. when i finally set the tank up i went to get the canopy only to find that it had completely shattered after i put it away. not fun cleaning tiny shards of glass out of the carpet.
@@justarandomuser8434 at least no fish were harmed in that whole thing
Also a reason why so many have tried to punch someone through driver side window on a vehicle, and have either broken their hand, or actually broken the tempered glass with a heap of brute force as it takes quite a substantial force. So if your able to break a car side window with your fist you can punch pretty dam hard.
What happend to my brothers
8:50 It's fascinating that the glass shattered mid-air after bouncing off the concrete. Like it absorbed the impact energy and then the vibrations took a while to hit a weaker spot or accumulate in one place to break the surface. Amazing.
I might be seeing this wrong, but to me it looks like it survived initial impact, then the corner hits the floor and thats what did it in
@@wulfywulfynrir1296 exactly. That secondary corner impact is what made it snap. You can tell by the way it shattered originating from that corner
I was setting up a pre-built a few years ago on a hard topped table. Took off the side panel to remove the shipping packaging from inside the tower and the glass panel slipped out of my hands from the screw height straight down onto the table. Immediately shattered, only saving grace was I hadn't pealed the protective plastic off yet which ended up holding the pieces in place. Used part of the cardboard shipping box as a side panel for about 4 years until I recently switched it to a new case
My cooler is too big on my Lian Li 011 Dynamic so I use foam...
@@Mystical_Zeus how well does the foam cool your CPU lmao
Why didn't you just... Contact the prebuilt company and get a replacement? I've broken a side panel and gotten a replacement from NZXT before. Should've been under warranty.
@@moorhen6156 it insulates it from my room. I have it alongside cardboard s
and other foam with painters tape and I pull cold air directly from outside.but I like on dirt roads so either way my PC was gonna get dusty. Cold temps now tho.
@@blessedred I for sure could have, even thought of simply claiming it came cracked, but in the end, the defeat was simply too strong
The results were really more impressive than I thought!
Most people: I wish I could afford a 30 series, but I'm gonna have to settle for a 1650 in this economy
Jay: Literally uses a 3080 as a throwing star
that hurt me who literally has a 1650 super
@@LilTachanka people who should be able to afford a 3060 at rrp
@@LilTachanka I have a 1650 super and I'm not willing to pay scalpers double the msrp for a 3060ti.
@@GentleWruzzPuppet same, imma wait for msrp to happen again so i can also get one
THE LEVEL OF ANXIETY THIS VIDEO GAVE ME
Jay there's a little more complexity to tempered glass, you impact it with something, the tension shifts in the glass slowly compromising the atomic structure of it.
so as you drop it over and over again, the glass basically becomes more and more unstable till it just breaks from it's own internal tension
Thank you for bringing this up. I was going to point this out too, but you said it way better than I could have!
Jay, I am a retired cop from California. I had a string of car burglaries and the side windows were the point of entry used to get the items out of the cars. the method to break the glass was to strike the windows with the ceramic from the top of spark plugs. That ceramic is so hard it shattered the glass on the first try. The crooks used to break the ceramic off and put it in necklaces they could wear so they were always ready.
Jay doing the Mythbuster thingy except with much, MUCH less safety features
That being said it's tempered glass. Eye protection is really your only thing you have to worry about. It's called "safety glass" for a reason 😉
This week has been rough for me... I found myself smiling while watching this video. Thanks JayzTwoCents.
I broke my TT Core G21 by tilting the glass into the side of the case so I could screw it. Dropping and smacking it against objects did nothing but having the holes lined up correctly did it.
One of the manufacturers need to do a collaboration with Corning for Gorilla Glass or provide replacement parts.
Great video. Nice change of pace from the normal videos.
We once cleared out a big cellar bar and found a old CRT we then tried to break by throwing a hammer at it. Those things could take quite a beating and i cant even remember how many throws it took until it imploded. ... quite impressive !
It doesn't take much: I have a Fractal Meshify, the glass panel exploded when I attached it to the case after installing more cooling. I didn't drop it, I didn't apply any pressure - I literally just put it against the case and *boom*
Thank you for doing the unspeakable things we can´t do, this is and watering the GPUs like a daisy Pot has been actually very educational in how much can take to kill them, thank you madman
also for unspeakable titles like _How hard _*_is it break_*_ tempered glass side panel_ we can't read
"very educational"
I loved this video! Jaytober has been so great. Thanks to Jay and everyone working on this content putting it out every day this month. Great work!
I had a tempered glass door, from an entertainment stand, out in my yard for years. I would use it when I needed to work on a flat surface, or put it over pots when gardening, like an improvised cold frame. After several years of sitting outside in New England weather, one day I picked it up and it just exploded! I wasn't surprised when it happened, just very disappointed it was gone. Even my cats enjoyed sitting on it, because it would be warmer than the driveway.
I love this. I had a heavy ass dining table like 110lbs was just the glass alone. So I wrapped it in two thick blankets and then hit the corner with a hammer it and it sharted perfectly. Made it easier to carry from basement to recycling lol
That poor table must have had some Wendy's chili for dinner for it to shart.
Those slomos were so funny with Jay's movements in those safety flipflops
literally no one, jay throwing a 3080 card at tempered glass for science
This has been one of the most fun videos you have had in a while. MORE SCIENCE PLEASE!
customers break side panels just by dropping half an inch on the table vertically as they unscrew them
Mine dropped once while I was unscrewing it, didn't break but my heart stopped for a second.
Yup they're so delicate it's actually ridiculous.
Stick to cases with plexiglass side panels. They're lightweight, they don't break, and who wants a reflective surface on their PC they have to clean all the time anyway?
Exactly what happened to me…4 days after I got my Corsair 4000 AF, so I just built a screen mesh over the side with magnetic strips.
I broke it this way
Thank you, Jay&his team.
I can confirm a double pane tempered glass window, 6 foot x 6 foot, can stop a bullet. Both panes shatter but all of the bullets momentum is gone and the bullet falls with the shattered glass. Yes, we used to have a stupid kid in the neighborhood.
Your videos like these are some of my favorites
"Some of the air is making it out of the holes" - Story of my life
If you want it to be incredibly strong, just laminate it both sides with a proper laminator. You'll barely notice the difference, but it will become increadibly hard to break. The windows in sky scrapers are laminated tempered glass and can survive a direct brick throw at it or collision with a bird at 60mph.
“The difference between science and messing around is writing it down”
-Adam Savage
That slo mo was so cool!
Jay: I'm not a pitcher.
Me: So you're a catcher, then?
I don't think he's catching anything with those shoes...
I've had the same tempered glass Corsair Crystal case from like 2016-2017 and it's amazing to me that it hasn't exploded yet
I think the worst part about tempered glass, is IF you do drop it, i feel like it could be a time bomb at some point depending on how bad the drop was.
I just imagine sleeping in the middle of the night and then it just explodes because of an air pressure change in the room
I have a large glass panel, this sure makes me be more aware and careful about it in the future. THX for the demo
Rofl. Hey Jay, take a small piece of porcelain and toss it against the glass. 😉
Used to work in a window factory, at the end of our shift we would trash the glass with defects and tempered glass was always the most fun. Takes ALOT to break when throwing stuff at it, we would chuck hammers at it and nothing....tap the edge of course and it shatters easily.
Dimitri: makes a community post about how he broke a tempered glass panel for the first time in a while
Jay: well, better pay tribute to the statistical gods.
i was telling him “i don’t think that’s how luck works LOL you can’t just cash advance your bad luck so that it doesn’t happen in the future”
@@frickingphil I mean we've been due a dead president and an extinction level event for how long now? More power to him at this point right?
These videos are so much fun and some of my favorite videos!
Jay’s wife: soo your wearing shorts n flip flops today… whatcha doing today
Jay: Not sure I figure it out.
(Later that day)
Jay: today we are breaking glass…
Jays foot movements in slow mo are just too funny. I wonder if that's how flies perceive us, always getting hectic long after the fact. :)
It's the safety dance.
The "safety" comes in the form of the edging of the break being generally blunt. That Phantex ....that was like Steve cutting open a heat pipe to find the maker lied about it LMAO
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say, but shards of broken tempered glass are like tiny little razors, and I have the scars to prove it. The "safety" aspect is, unlike regular plate glass, when it breaks, you don't have one or multiple large edges that could potentially kill someone.
@@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 Generally blunt, not all are formulated the same. I've had a few cars over the years, that have lost their windows sides and back, every one has been smooth in the hand, not sharp, almost plastic to the touch without being plastic laminate glass. Ive had the same with glass shower doors (bare feet, not a cut). And yes, I had a co-op student I had to give time off to, his best friend tripped going down stairs at another friends home, the glass coffee table he impacted caused fatal injuries before the ambulance arrived. That wasn't tempered glass.
i work with tempered glass everyday, i’ve never come across a broken piece that was blunt, as big name above said the safety comes from breaking into multiple little pieces
@@jawndoekck Yeah I'm aware. I used to cut the stuff on a regular basis.
@@Hick25 entirely probable that my experience is with a different glass. I equate tempered with safety and that could be why the glass breakage I've experience has been the way it was.
The slow motion glass breaking sound is oddly satisfying.
Jay: “Tempered glass is pretty strong”
Me: “ Yep, I watched Squid Games”
I just had to look for Squid Games related comments 😉
Also jaytober has been a blast! Thankyou!
Even though it's broken, that 3080 being used as a throwing star hurt to watch :P
Same here, whole time I was thinking but someone, maybe just someone, could have fixed it LMFAO.
About 25 yrs ago I had an audio component rack that had a tempered glass hinged door on it and one day when I was removing it for cleaning I started to slide the top hinge off of it's pin (which at the time I had not realized that the bottom hinge pin was actually longer than the top one) and as soon as the top hinge freed from the pin the weight of the glass shifted in my hands while the bottom pin still had a leverage and thus the slight tilting force shattered the glass so fast that it appeared as if a bucket of water was dropping but, of course it was not water just a thousand tiny water sized droplets of tempered glass all of the hardwood floor...at the time I was wearing shorts but yet I did not receive a single cut...I guess that's the safety part that Jay spoke of ;)
Not very hard when it goes through the mail system 💀👀
The impact test relieved me a lot, because i have my pc case sitting right next to me due to space limitations so sometimes i hit it with my elbow. If it doesn't break with a hammer thrown at it it definetely won't break with my elbow
No one:
Litterly NO ONE:
Jay: throws 3080 at a glass panel.
RIP 3080, IT SERVED IT'S COUNTRY😂😂
Science with Jay is best science!
Jay throwing the 3080 made me feel pain Ive never felt before
It really hurt
And we got some dancemoves from Jay.
All in all a good day for the science of dance.
Him: Tempered glass is really strong
5 mins later*
Glass broke in an inch drop*
Also him: Science!
I’m very thankful for this video I can tell that the thicker glass was from a Lian li lancool and that gives me some reassurance for my own rig that’s in one
Jay just casually throwing a RX 3080 lmaoo
This video here is why I am really against tempered glass or anything glass for a side panel (and yes I do have one case with a glass side panel mainly because of the functionality of the case itself). When you changing out parts in the case trying to find a place to put the side panel safely this is why accidents like this can be dangerous to avoid. This is why I am fully supportive of using Acrylic side panels, which are so much more resilient and much less prone to accidents but yes I know that scratching it doesn't make it look great and cannot be easily be fixed compared to tempered, which can be cleaned up more on that side of things. I seriously think PC Case Manufactures need to go back to Acrylic side panels (and develop them further to fix scratching) or I wonder if some form of Acrylic/tempered glass hybrid could be made so it makes the side panel stronger to prevent breakage like this with pure tempered. Or is it not possible to combined both types?
Slow motion jay-hop was the best part.
I've never been more jealous of Jay!
A broken piece of spark plug insulator would like to have a word with you.
Get a spark plug and a hammer. Hit the insulator (the white part) of the spark plug with the hammer until it breaks into a few pieces. Take a piece of the now broken insulator (it will be sharp beyond belief, wear mechanics gloves to pick up the pieces). Even a relatively soft toss will completely shatter a tempered glass window as long as one of the sharp sides impacts the glass first. It is almost entirely silent when it breaks as well.
Tempered glass is great for blunt impacts and bumps but can't handle a direct impact with something very sharp. This is a feature of tempered glass, not a flaw which many people seem to think. It is made this way so if you get into a car accident strong enough to where the door windows break, the glass ends up as tiny little pieces with mostly blunt edges to reduce the risk of lacerations as the pieces are thrown around the car. The windshield is made of laminated glass so throwing a spark plug insulator piece at the windshield will likely just have it bounce back at you.
It would be interesting to see if any case manufactures are lying about their tempered glass claims as this method would expose that for sure. Plus it is neat to see tempered glass break with this method as it is almost completely silent, especially when compared to breaking a non-tempered piece where you get the classic glass breaking sound heard in movies.
i've had the phantex evolv (enthoo evolv actually; the big one) case for years now and managed never to break it. I've tapped it on the fake wood floor paneling in my basement a couple of times and freaked out but never tapped it on concrete or kitchen tiles or anything "harder"
this is such a great video idea
Just in case you were curious I think the 3rd panel introduced (that jay didn't know where it came from, had a frame) was from a lian li lancool II. I bought one after seeing your original video and the panel looks just like mine.
I've Installed 1200 black temperd 4mm class panels 80x140cm on a building last year. A few times a panel would just explode in your hands when holding them or a singel grain of sand when you put it aside when reaching for something would make them explode.
Sturdy and surpringly flexable as well some times, it was pretty cheap class so quality was a bit of a mixed bag. Fun project though
We need more of this science 🧪
What an interesting video. Especially because we have sauna doors made of this stuff here, and people (kids, drunks) do slam the doors quite a bit, might bump them with solid objects, whatever. They're considered safe enough for that kind of frequent "life happens" use. They usually have no frame of any kind (as in frames like the metal ones on the video), just a large glass sheet with hinges and a knob attached to it. Ours is around 180x84CM (5'11" x 2'9"). Judging from the video I would presume that there is good and not so good quality glass available for various purposes, and for something like a large, very heavy door that is meant to be used while butt naked by everyone in the family (so no shard or crushing protection whatsoever) you wouldn't cheap out.
And now I'm wondering if the material needs to be in any way "special" when it comes to thermal qualities since the top part of the door can be in contact with 100C/212F+ temperature air from one side, significantly cooler on the other. Kind of like what can happen to a side panel with high thermal load PC in a cold country I suppose. (Opening a window in winter for fresh air and all that...)
That’s why I love my steel case. Rock solid, no glass rgb crap.
Much respect for thinking of this experiment and letting us in on it dude, thank you.
The third glass you introduced looks alot like the lian li mesh 2 tempered side glass, just in "CASE" you were wondering Jay.
All the Reddit post I seen have tempered glass break on tile floor.
Definitely sharing this to people who are worried about tempered glass fish tanks
That was surprisingly enjoyable! More wacky random stuff plx?
In which Jay demonstrates the Ahhhh No No Please Don't Hurt Me dance.
Truly entertaining and get good gage of a side panel so pretty helpful actually.
The hammer part is actually very important. hitting it with a falt part of the hammer didn't break it, but hitting it with the curve of the hammer's head at an angle did and i'm sure you can consistently repeat this and the hammer won't break it when hitting the glass with a flat part and wil ALWAYS break it when hitting it with a corner
Jay Nye the Science guy is my favorite!
linus would be proud of you dropping side panels
JayTwoCents + Mythbusters evolved into JayBusters. I kinda like it