I love how Bjorn didn't give a shit about his daughters school performance but was willing to go back for an easily replaceable stuffed animal when it would clearly risk their safety.
He didn’t care about the bunny either, he just didn’t want to disappoint her. At the performance, he wasn’t being watched, but at the end he faked his applause so that others wouldn’t think he was rude.
As a dane; this is pretty common, from my limited experience. Small things are more important than big things. If you want to say he's doing it because he is being watched, that's fine, I am just adding my social understanding
bc he didnt really care abt her being sad, he just needed the excuse to go back bc he didnt feel as unconfortable with the situation and i think he actually wanted to make a friend
that exact concept is why im so thankful that i went through all the hard shit i went through in life that contributed to me being more hardened, and also more untrusting towards people, i used to be the exact same person as bjorn before highschool but now im 21 and in those years i did a COMPLETE 180
@@yippykiyay89 I absolutely agree. Good call. It was an inconvenience to move his belongings, but he did it anyway. Bjorn should have told Patrick the chair was for his daughter.
This was definitely a cautionary tale. I have told my kids since very young, trust your gut! Don’t worry about being polite when your gut is telling you something is wrong, even if you can’t put your finger on the exact reason why.
i'd argue thats it's not just about politeness, it's about knowing how to use it in a situation like this. the scene where he went back in the house for that stupid bunny, they had the perfect opportunity to politely lie and come up with an easy excuse for leaving so abruptly, not that going back for the bunny was even a bright idea in the first place. I could understand a father willing to take a risk for his daughter but dammit Bjorn folded like a chair when he was trying to explain why they left so suddenly and just made it worse for their own people pleasing personalities to handle. i don't doubt people exist out there that are just like this, plenty of suckers out there born every minute lol
The fact that Bjorn and Louise are stoned is quite telling of how they're perceived by their killers. They were stoned for their misdeeds which to me is thier lack of protective instincts of their daughter. I mean what parents take their child to a home of strangers? They knew nothing about them, and even after all their disturbing behavior, they still decided to stay.
The whole "stay with us" is basically a test where they prove if a family is passive enough to being abuse. They are predators, and predators have a pretty keen eye to detect the weaknesses they can exploit. If the family stand their ground, they probably can leave without harm, but if a family remains silent to the awkwardness is when they act and kill. Also they probably just act when they get bored of their new "child", that is more like a pet, maybe thats why they were progressively more abusive with Abel towards the end.
Abel was actively putting himself at risk to test the killer's boundaries and subtley warn the family. Closest thing to a hero in this film. It's what got him killed prematurely. When he showed Bjorn his tongue was cut out, it was the most blatant thing he could show them directly. When he chose to block the slide, he *knew* he was going to get in trouble but it was a passive attempt to get his abductors to drop their facade. When he was dancing, they might as well have had a gun pointed at his head. Kid knew he was literally dancing to save his life. The argument heard before he was drowned was probably the kidnapper's last attempt at getting the kid in line and when he refused to play along or stop crying, Patrick decided to get a new "pet."
smart assessment. Since it's low level wierdness the couples who go free probly don't even report anything because up till then they were just being inconsiderate and not threatening.
@@RecluseBootsyi feel like his death wasn't premature it was planned for that night anyway as this was when they were going in for the kill of the parents and getting themselves a new "pet"...notice they never have more than one child at once
This concept is very real. People are so scared to seem unpolite that they will even put themselves in danger. Makes sense they would make a horror movie out of that.
It's made even better by the fact that the killers never at any point brandish a weapon at the couple. They literally just use the couples fear to essentially lay down and accept being stoned to death....shit is dark lol....
as someone with bad trauma, I hate that I would probably be this person. im so conditioned to be a pushover and scared to object. its definitely real in that aspect
I feel your rage. I was actually enraged by the end of THIS video. Basically this Father had no balls. Period. It's always ok to say NO, even if somebody is being "polite".
As a Dane, I can tell you that, yes, the politeness is infuriating but it’s also very true to our culture. We don’t want to seem rude or as if we’re being culturally rude, so we force the politeness until it pretty much breaks our backs. Honestly, I could only watch this once, and I don’t think I’ll ever watch it again, but I’m really happy that danish movies are getting some international credit!
They have been getting international credit for years, all of Nicolas Winding Refn movies have been seen by international audiences, even our tv series
exacty lol im not even danish yet i understand that scandinavian culture in general produces folks who are very passive and timid and soft spoken up front because i have half a fuckin brain lol its pissing me off seeing all these comments from clueless ass people saying "the not standing up for themselves and not doing anything or fighting back ruined the movie" and "they didint even have guns" THEY ARENT AMERICANS YOU IDIOTS
The parents just standing there at the end ALLOWING rocks to be thrown at them couldn’t anger me more than it did. Not one time did I ever see any guns or any other type of weapon. How could you possibly let your own daughter be taken when the attackers aren’t even armed..? SMH
I think the daughter part frustrated me more. By the end their daughter has been taken and had her tongue cut out in front of them. They had nothing more to live for. If they were ever going to make a stand, it would have been when their daughter was taken
@@RUclipsDweller8008 I think it's all too common that introverts who lack assertiveness find themselves in situations they could have easily gotten out of in an attempt to stay polite. I know I've been there lol. This is just a hyper exaggerated experience
I think this movie is actually trying to make you hate the parents of the girl because they're just not doing what they're supposed to do to protect her. They want you to hate them more than you hate the actual killers.
This is probably trying to bring light to how things are in that part of the world Where its citizens just allow things happen to them and say nothing because of social backlash.
I definitely hated them. They're modern parents that don't do anything but complain. If they do something they're actually supposed to then they'll be projected as the evil people. Basically twitter generation being parents.
huh? the fuck? im glad i didnt find myself perceiving it to be that way because thats honestly retarded imo, i feel utmost enraged at the pos killers and felt horrible for the family, thats completely backwards lmao like wtf did i miss
I find it interesting that some people have a difference between being stupid characters from bad writing or stupid characters because they’re trying to make a point. And I think this is a good example of a movie having stupid characters to make a point
Yeah! I agree 100% rare to see intentional bad decisions! And the point is very relevant. That type of weak push over personality is becoming more common and push overs are the WORST!! Because they expect you to read their minds. They never tell you what they want or need they just do whatever they believe you want, while becoming more and more resentful and passive aggressive. Ugh I despise those people honestly. That's how my mother is. Always playing the Martyr. Door mats really are pathetic and obnoxious.
I agree for the first half of the movie but it feels like dumb writing when he didn't take the car or tell his wife. This couple has killed 100+ people and you do nothing when one leaves the car. But when he tells your wife to shut up you fight back? I don't get why he wants to fight now for something so little as being mean vs the couple being literal killers.
I think the most infuriating thing for me was when Bjorn could’ve easily taken the car when Patrick was taking a piss. To me this is really when the point of the movie came full circle; he wasn’t willing to do something against the couple that’s unsavory to save his family’s lives.
I think there is a lot of social commentary here as well. When people do nothing and are pushed and pushed without fighting back eventually you end up in a point of no return. If you are in a bad relationship, you can't keep ignoring the problem or justifying it because that will never solve the problem. You have to take a stand and leave but it's difficult.
There's definitely a theme here - malicious people preying on self-interest and relying on apathy to not be held accountable. Ring a bell from anywhere? - Is inflation making the cost of living near impossible? Don't hold your leaders accountable for their terrible economic policies, just make more money. - Found out shady things were going on during the elections? Don't demand better electoral processes, just vote differently next time. - Billions of dollars of taxpayer money being sent to Ukraine without once checking in with the voters? Don't get angry or else you're a Nazi and you don't want to get canceled, do you? - Turned out the 'experts' were all lying through their teeth during the pandemic? Don't ask why the media lied to you, just keep getting jabbed because your employer demands it. - Entirety of your home state melting because greedy rail corporations were cutting corners and bribing politicians? Don't file a class action lawsuit, just buy bottled water from now on.
That also reminded me of victims of domestic abuse who sometimes convince themselves their spouse will redeem themselves and continue to allow themselves and their kids to be abused for years. I do like the theme, because it reminds parents it's not just about themselves, it's also about the kids. it's like "ok you allow yourself to be abused, fine, but don't let your kids suffer too"
@@slimjimjimslim5923 Good sentiment but no one really 'allows' themselves to stay in an abusive relationship. Abusive partners aren't abusive assholes every single waking moment, sometimes they're apologetic, other times they're loving and oftentimes they make the victim feel that they're either overreacting or outright delusional to view any of their actions as abusive. That and deaths of victims in abusive relationships are often caused when victims decide to get up and leave or try to stand up to them. There's definitely a point to be made about how being permissive in a bad relationship is never gonna do good for you or your loved ones but going straight into "Why don't you just leave? Seems like you condone it then" territory is a miss.
@@tarotsushima3332 but this is exactly what happened in this movie. The parents allowed their kids to be taken and allowed themselves to be killed. Forget about what happens in real world, focus on the intent of the movie directors. This is what I believe the movie director was going for .
As a dad of two, this was the hardest watch since the "baby scene" in Trainspotting. Be a guardian, parents; It's damn near your only job after they're born.
The frustration this film made me feel was very similar to how I felt watching “Welcome to the Dollhouse” just shouting at the screen, “DO SOMETHING! Why are you just taking it?!?” I’m a major push over, but these people were ridiculous!
Agreed and if that was the goal of the director then he succeeded but it made the movie frustrating annoying to watch. So much so that it negatively effected the movie for me.
It's like listening to "true scary stories." Always saying, "I didn't think anything of it" and ignoring warning instinct after warning instinct. And I don't feel sorry for such people.
There's also the fact that they immediately go after new kids seemingly before they decide to kill the one they have, So it isn't like they just want a child, they intend to just keep trading in for a new child constantly, regardless of how the child "behaves."
Was that Abel floating face down in the pool? And do we know if Abel was their actual child or a stolen child? There were several photos of other families in that little room Bjorn discovered...
As a Scandinavian, you have NO idea how funny (in a super-dark way) the first half of this movie is. It basically deconstructs our most pathetic stereotypes and flaws, and makes the characters go to hell for it!
It could mean black people, due to poverty/trauma are more vulnerable. The more trauma, the more you see people like those in this movie, deeply disturbed or unable to cope. I say this coming from a country that also has this type of issue. Doesn't mean everyone is like this. @@DarknessUnresolved
This movie is a great example of the dangers of allowing civilitiy to drown out your natural instincts. We all get those gut feelings when something is wrong but most of us are afraid to be deemed "rude" or strange if we say/do something about it.
This is the only movie that ever made me scream at the screen "How can you people be so stupid ?!" And I've seen alot of movies with stupid people. But now that I think about it, it's probably the reaction the film makers wanted from the audience, I guess it worked.
im not even danish yet i understand that scandinavian culture in general produces folks who are very passive and timid and soft spoken up front because i have half a fuckin brain lol its pissing me off seeing all these comments from clueless ass people saying "the not standing up for themselves and not doing anything or fighting back ruined the movie" and "they didint even have guns" THEY ARENT AMERICANS
@@Partypooperfanmade we live in a society today where people dont associate the word "horror" with anger and disgust, instead for some weird ass, retarded ass reason most people think it should almost be some kind of adventure, its pathetic tbh
A friend of mine made the score for this movie, and I followed on the sideline as it was released, knowing super little about what happened in it. Once watching it, I LOVED it, but I was honestly a little worried that it might be too Danish, becuase it is - it plays on some core values in Danish society that is hard to explain to others, like 'you don't complain, and ruin the good mood', and one of the reasons that we were called 'the happiest country in the world' is because we have a rock solid trust in the person next to us. An average Danish person would never think that someone was out to harm them, maybe rob their money, maybe beat them (if it's extreme). and that is why the sentence at the end 'because you let me' hits so hard for us who grew up in that culture. But I am SO, SO happy to see that it IS actually understood, maybe without the hard hitting deep rooted cultural unease, but understood, and felt - outside of Denmark. Thank you for covering this, I know alot of work and purpose went into making this movie. (and when people say, they had many chances to escape, that is what makes it Danish, cause they don't think anything really bad will happen, not really - we are simply not exposed or used to violence or ill intent, so to think others mean you harm, is simply both rude, and unthinkable).
an example is how the mother is a vegetarian (like myself) and when presented with meat - she choses to eat it, because to do otherwise would be rude to your host. Even if we know how little she wants to... or the infamous 'return for the teddy' that says a lot about how Danish society sees what being good parents are like. And combine that with the fact that they actually think that nothing bad will really happen. All in all it's a critical love letter to Danish mentality, wrapped in a story of violence and deep mental trauma. People here they vomited in the cinema and walked out, hating the movie - and that is because it hits home, hard. we all see ourselves in that couple. and even if we all sit there and think, dude buy her a different teddy at a gas station, we also know that chances are, we too would return for it, because we didn't want to upset the child.. again it's hard to explain. it's even more Scandinavian than Midsommar, what can I say?
i feel like in the USA its almost the complete opposite. im always wondering who is going to hurt me next and how. if someone is being completely nice to me, thats when im most suspicious of their true intentions
yeah thats the final irony, none of that would have happened if they just let it go, yet they didnt so now she has it yet... well... the current reality
This is the first movie I’ve watched where to me the “Why?” Did not matter. They do it cause they can. They do it cause people allow it. Such a wonderful movie about life, sometimes you play a huge part in your misfortune.
Something you didn't mention in the beginning when talking about why they let so much stuff happen without doing anything is cultural differences, there are many cultures where it is not really acceptable to confront people, it doesn't come naturally for one to engage in a confrontation no matter if they think they're right or not, they'll avoid it and try to be agreeable. I really believe that plays a key role in this story.
Absolutely. To add to what you said Nina, I get the vibe the movie was slightly misunderstood because of the lense from which it's viewed. This channel being american for an american audience and all. Lots of people who are confident, leaders, talkative and extroverted see these two and go "urgh i'd never LET that happen to me wtf?" but from the perspective of someone lower in the "social hierarchy". The movie protagonists (while being caricatures and exagerated) are frighteningly reaI. I'm glad I'm not alone in this judging from some comments scrolling down: but I am unfortunately...a push over. The fear of taking action of being rude or of consequences makes it that the degree of "being taken advantage of" to a more predatory couple, this family went through is something that isn't so far fetched. Yes, the wrong decisions they took were frustrating (from a viewer stand point) but from a life lesson/fable standpoint, it's both terrifying and accurate imho, in a "in this situation. In the heat of not being able to think rationally I'd be there." Like when you're in a argument and only think of cool come back hours after the deed is done and over xD-
in the us south (where i grew up) there is a very strong desire for amicability and manners. ik this exists all over the US but its got a different quality to it in the south idk. i really liked this plot and it instantly reminded me of being afraid to speak up in social settings when something made me uncomfortable
That's not a good explanation. Being polite is one thing. Being polite while the safety of your own daughter is at stake is just stupid. For the vast majority of people, instinct would take over at that point.
I'm the kind of person who's polite to a fault and I've done a lot of stupid shit to avoid making someone potentially upset with me. A concept like this scares the shit out of me cause, even though I'd like to think I'm smart enough to see past the obvious lies, I worry that my fear of confrontation and appearing rude would cloud that vision.
@@azertu2u2 i usually still may give people chances but i carry a knife with me and also know how to use it and my fists thats really all it takes is knowing you can defend yourself because heres the kicker, the people im around have to worry more about me than i have to worry about them and i myself know im not going to do anything to anyone unless provoked to do so because im not someone who wants to try and hurt people so it creates this sense of certainty and relaxing peace knowing that if someone was to try and hurt me i can gut them and get out of there and call the police in a matter of 45-55 seconds
As a Dutch person I can confirm we are all like that. :P The one thing they did get wrong is the cell signal. Our nation is the size of a postage stamp and we have an extremely dense infrastructure. Unless the signal gets actively blocked you _will_ have a signal no matter what forest you go to.
Yes,and all the missing families and no police looking for them,knowing where they went?!?!?? They probably communicated with the families, telling them the adress and everything and nobody knows?? They werent arrested or questioned? Please
lol you people think police are superhero or something? so many people went missing and never found police kept on eating donuts and shoot drunk guy with knife from a mile away
But that’s actually where the partner comes into effect. I have social anxiety too, but I try to partner with more extroverted people, so they can push me out of my comfort zone. I would never in a billion years spend the weekend at a stranger’s home, but I have a feeling my partner would lol and I would go with him because I don’t want to ruin his excitement. I’m DEFINITELY not nice though, so I would have told my kid the toy is gone and deal with it, if my partner said we must get it, I would tell him to shut up and keep driving lol
I think the reason they were both so passive at the end while being stoned to death was because the crazy couple had their daughter and perhaps they were hoping up until the last minute that they might release her. Either way though, the fact that the father was so passive throughout the movie led to his demise. He couldn't even tell his daughter "no" when it came to going back to the house where her bunny doll was. They would have all been alive had he stood up to her.
9:20 Nope. That's my limit. I would be 100% out of there - hell, I wouldn't have gone back in the car. Even if there was nothing else going on with the couple, their complete disregard for their own personal safety - let alone their guests - makes them too dangerous to stay with. In fairness, I definitely wouldn't have left my child with a stranger either no matter how "nice" folk seem either. Must be a cultural thing.
@@zyzir I have to think that even the Danes would stop short of meekly letting themselves be murdered & having their child mutilated. Nonetheless, this really does seem to be a satirical commentary on society in general. "Because you let us" could easily be applied to the iniquities governments & social groups impose on people through manufactured consent. Which makes for deeply frustrating viewing, which is perhaps the point.
@@alharron2145 but it still only works because they are Scandinavian which are a very passive and timid people, it would be like if they made a movie with american characters that were overly conservative hillbillies, its just a storytelling device
I think it also speaks to how ignoring the behavior gives it an opportunity to escalate. At first it's weird comments, then it's nothing sinister but just obvious jabs and lies, then moves on to physicality and ultimately into them being killed. At any point, they could have been assertive and stopped it but they let it go thinking it wasn't that big of a deal. They kind of became the frog in the water being boiled alive. Since the jabs and stuff started innocent enough, they didn't realize quite how badly things were getting despite the escalation being obvious to the outside viewer. It's how a lot of abusers keep their victims and its also how we end up with issues in society that just get worse and worse because no one who can is willing to put in the real work to stop it.
I honestly think it doesn't really matter why they did this, that's not the point. The point is, as mentioned also by others, is how our politeness and thinking of reprecautions ("what would the neighbors think??") is stronger than our instincts. This movie reminds me of the movie Compliance (which is horrifically based on a true story), where when people are pushed - this time based on what they perceive as authority from a police officer- they will ignore all red flags and do horrific things.
My thoughts exactly, which is why I think movies like that is a mandatory watch. I fear being rude or impolite, and I make an effort to work my way away from things that stir my gut feelings in the wrong directions. Worrying about what others will think is so unnatural.
@@netialouis527 It just occurred to me that this is especially true for women. We fear being called a bi**h or being rude to nice guys so when a creep is flirting and you just want to let them know you're not interested, we feel this pressure to not be an a-hole and potentially put ourselves at risk. Maybe I'm taking it to a different direction, but it was a thought I had...
There have been many psychological tests regarding this and how we comply with authority figures, including those we feel inferior to (even if they aren't actually in any position of power) and, generally speaking, it's a lot more likely that the average person will comply in a negative, unknown or terrifying situation than fight or be heroic, which is a very bleak thought. It's shown that people will actually be more likely to stand up to authority IF (ironically so) someone else has directed them to do so. It comes under the same mentality (sorry, I've forgotten the name of the proven theory) that, if there is a fire or car crash for example, a lot of people will stand there and not know what to do but if a person takes charge and they get someone in the crowds attention like saying "you in the red shirt, call the emergency services. You in the blue, come and help me" etc etc, that is when teh person/people will act with courage or a clear head. We are generally more likely to be able to be brave when given direction and, often, permission.
@@wayasaunooke3424 Indeed, and I think you are talking about the Bystander Effect, where we tend to think that surely someone else will do something about it. But I think the more we spread awareness of it and encourage people to act ("If you see something, say something"), it will get better.
A lot of people are missing the point of this movie. Patrick and Karen are evil predators that thrive on the weakness of their victims. In this case they look for couples that are passive and submissive which is clear at the very beginning of the movie with the pool scene. When Patrick says he didn’t force them to be there he wasn’t lying. They wanted to test Bjørn and Louise to see how little backbone they had and how far they would let Patrick and Karen go. Hence the “because you let me” line at the end which summaries the point really well.
1. I agree that everyone got that and 2. the pool scene isn’t a great example because he really didn’t need an extra chair for his bag. Any decent human being would’ve given that chair away. The point of the film wasn’t „don’t let people on the subway take the seat next to you. Your bags deserve their own seat“ it’s „don’t say yes to everything“
@@illogical001 Gotta ask...does this qualify a good film? I read about the movie or heard specifics or plot developments and had a good feeling what they were going for. It Just seems like the theme,the message, is the "star" of the show here and that its more of a modern "allegory",more about a comment on our deep rooted need to not be seen as problematic and ungrateful,like a textbook example on how we rather get killed than get confrontational in any way,to be seen as understanding and tolerant,"the good neighbor" takes precedent to rocking the boat in any way,even if it would be for survival. I ended up reading alot about it after having heard about the trauma inflicted on viewers and now that i have the plot summary and have heard your thoughts,I feel like Im not missing too much,like this couple is way too meak, weak and an exaggerated stereotype for it to really be believable. I was hoping for the couple to have the hint of a weak spine,like they accept too much shit until they stand up for themselves in some way and if They're finally done in,it would be while fighting back,albeit too late and it be in context over something ironic, how they finally just let a minor transgression slide and this dooms them but no..... seems they accept insane shit from the word and honestly reads like natural selection. The psychotic and grotesque escalation of testing the couples fear of confrontation sounds like it would work better in litterature and could be read with symbolism and ambiguity cause the mentality they have is I guess easy to culturally understand but what transpired in the plot seems to be a grotesque exaggeration,a cautionary tale hyped up to 11. This whole plot sounds preordained and it seems the leads devolve,like this nice couple has Death tattoed on their forehead from the word go. They get a crash course in stranger danger to no avail. Im just curious if this is legitimately a good movie or if the praise or disgust is less cinematic or if its social commentary that makes it relevant, the following debate actually being more of the art? Cause i only ended up reading about it.and the summary and the whole narrative just made me boil. i do get that its the darkest satire possible but I wonder if it is a good watch,a rewarding watch. Cause it refers to our meek scandinavian mindset but the events featured is of such elevated evil and unrealistic cowardice,it seems like the white people aquivalent of screaming and in my case it would be throwing Shit at the screen. Should i watch this despite knowing the ending(which modern,cunty Imdb was nice enough to give away) to experience this elevated social awkwardness and nightmare myself? Cause i bet its clear 45min in these protagonists will never set their foot down so it seems as scary as fitting and Ieel like i will survive that the couple doesn't deserve to live. But from what i heard, this seems like a great blueprint to something a bit more subtle where characters are polite and scared of offending but still really want to live and see the danger in their situation. But maybe there is alot to be said for our modern mantra "Surezu might get murdered but be tolerant and open minded even if it costs you your life." Ps. Sorry...Yes,I just smoked a fat one. Didn't mean to let the text runaway from me but...it did,lol.
No-one missed the point of the movie. The movie is just unrealistic. Even the most passive person would have enough instincts to protect their daughter, yet they did nothing.
As someone with social anxiety, this movie really resonates with me, and probably with some people on the autism spectrum. To me, they're not being cowards, they just want the other couple to not hate them. Yeah, it's ridiculous, but the way this movie ends is what it feels like to be rejected by people who you wanted to like you.
Standing there and physically letting yourself be stoned to death when you've had every opportunity to resist while letting a pair of murderers kidnap, torture, and abuse their daughter for the rest of her short and torturous life? kids gonna get beat to death and thrown into a pool because these two were so unrealistically cowardly nup until the very end
dude im exactly the same. i feel the couple should be more responsible because they are parents first, but oh my gosh if it was just me in this situation I'd probably let them stone me too if they told me it would make them like me LMAO
Watched this with my husband tonight. We talked our shit throughout about the parents but when the mom was shaking holding her daughter in the back of the car then her daughter reaching out for her as the car pulled off tore me up, seeing reality sink in way too late was brutal. 😭
when i finished watching, I thought that the killer couple forcing the social boundaries slowly could be a way to psichologicly test whos up to be easily taken by them, that testing starts on the very beggining when he asks for the chair and they simply take their things to give, if they had said: no, were using it. they probably would have left them alone from that point, its like they can predict passiveness and go for people with that, reaching the point that they dont even care to have guns with them cause they can identify the type of people who are the ones that just freeze on extreme situations instead of reacting (and thats a real thing, some people when they are victmn of a criminal on the streets, even when they have a gun with them, simply feel completely unable to react).
The first time I tried to watch this movie, I quit when they turned around for the stuffed bunny. The movie was getting under my skin even though I couldn't quite understand why. But I was happy to watch Ending Explained to find out what happened. Once again, I was grateful for this video because it explained so much. These people made me nuts!
I think the film is deeply about child abuse and how some parents don't do anything about it (dont listen/believe the child) because they dont want to make a fuss. They do nothing to really help Abel. All theses photo of child being kidnapped is maybe a metaphore on how it keeps happening in many family when everybody keep secret that a child suffer. I think its for that reason that in the last scene they die by lapidation that express death by shame.
This reminds me of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. Martin says to Mikael that people are more concerned with politeness instead of reacting with their gut. You would think self-preservation would trump being perceived as rude. Martin says that's how he got his victims. Chillingly true.
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This movie was my #1 favorite horror movie of 2022 (yes, even beating out "Barbarian"). The scene early on when Patrick keeps pushing Louisa to eat the pork would have ended the visit immediately. This movie is playing on Shudder, and most definitely worth a watch. Great review!
This is literally every Danish person in a horror movie’s setting ever. I think South Park called us the Canadians of Europe, guess that checks out here too
Something a lot of people are missing: This movie is Danish (Denmark). The family putting up with all this behavior is satire of traditional Scandinavian politeness: You don't yell at your kids, you respect people's space, you accept hospitality without protest, you don't just leave when you're uncomfortable, etc. The other family is Dutch (Netherlands), whose culture is more open-minded and straightforward, which often makes Scandinavians feel awkward or submissive.
That's also why the US remake is probably going to suck: There's no American cultural equivalent for that level of politeness. It's just a crazy family, so there's no actual reason for them to stay. It's just another example of US horror remakes not getting it.
I wish I had seen this movie in my 20s. I have been lucky over the years but have been pushed to test my limits by people even when there were red flags. Hopefully this make people less trustful of strangers. I have learned the hard lesson, you cannot trust friends either.
I think whoever wrote this movie must have lived in Denmark for a period of time and felt like there was an unnatural amount of apathy in the area. Maybe the mailman slept in a few times a month, maybe the road crews didn't bother to repair any potholes--whatever it was, this person decided that the Danes never bother to take action on anything.
This movie is in fact Danish written and meant as a satire about the cultural pressure for social politeness to the point of ignoring one's instincts to avoid conflict because they don't want backlash for appearing rude. The writers are brothers who had parents that used to visit people they met on vacation. Nothing bad ever happened to them, but they figured the premise was a good launching point for a horror movie with the social commentary
@@sophialambert2616 Thanks for the info Sophia, really interesting to hear the backstory of the writers and how they came to write this somewhat strange movie
@@SmallWinch honestly it wasn’t even the kids that made me upset. It was like lack of balls from the husband and major stupidity from the couple in general that was pissing me off. But I think the directors were going for the type or reaction.
It represents the typical Hollywood vaginas they call men. So glad this trend is dying. One more naked Thore self reflecting while he's stripped naked in front of hundreds and that's probably about it I hope
@@smarsh7779 I have *never* had a heart of gold, nor would I give a stranger the shirt off my back, but since I got my teeth fixed, NOW I have a smile that lights up the room!! I'm toast!!
The way you lay out the plot also makes me think this is a critique of the extremes of masculinity. Specifically BOTH sides. When you go too far into the traditional, you become mindlessly aggressive, domineering and destructive. But if you go too far into the "modern" aka more of a pacifist, you are taken advantage of and those you love will be harmed and you will be made by force or habit to simply suffer. Thus, the best solution is balance for men; knowing when you need to stand your ground and push back but also knowing when to let things roll off because it's not worth the hassle. At least in my option, that's another message form the movie.
I just watched this film for the first time, and as a dane myself I could relate to so many of the awkward situations. Especially when I go to places like the U.S. In Denmark most people don't really seek conversations, they usually avoid them at all cost, or only answer to not seem rude. We have this unspoken rule about being polite even in situations where you feel uncomfortable. In the beginning where Patrick (the dutch guy) asks if he can use the chair, you can (or at least I could) clearly see that Bjørn ( the danish man) is hestitant as to give it to him, because his daughter is using the chair, but because she's in the water at that moment, he doesn't want to seem rude, so he'll rather be a little uncomfortable via being 3 people using two chairs, than not giving up a chair that isn't being used at the moment. The same goes for when Patrick offers (I'd rather say forces) the meat to Louise. Bjørn tells her to "just take a small bite" as to not seem disrespectfull to the family who made them a nice meal. Same goes for when Bjørn ends up paying for the expensive meal at the restaurant. He doesn't want to come off as rude or disrespectful. And with Louise (the danish mom) she speaks her mind when her line is crossed big time, but because she isn't backed up by her husband, she doesn't want to seem crazy and overreacting so she retaliates. All in all this movie scares me more than a lot of other horror movies i've watched, because the way that I've been raised as a dane (with the unspoken societal politeness) makes me question when I would have stood my ground, especially when things started getting scary. And for everyone whose mad they didn't fight back at the end. Freezing up is a trauma responds, especially when you either know the dutch guys have got the balls to fight and you're used fleeing from every fight, coming your way. Most danes are way too good at shying away from conflict, so I believe a lot of danish people would freeze up in situations like this, just as the danish couple did.
@@_stillbornThat is quite a claim. There’s a reason why the common phrase is “fight, flight or freeze”. It is true that the freeze response isn’t usually permanent, but a lot of people still enter into shock and that’s it for them. I genuinely doubt you have seen any really dangerous emergency situations if you are saying this.
@@penguinexpert6581 I've been through war (as a civillian), and more "mundane" for the lack of better word dangerous situations. Im just speaking from experience, but whatever, I still find the couple's inaction unrealistic
The tragedy with Bjorn character is that he doesn't like himself and his life just as much as the audience does. There's many times he has a chance to "escape" but what people are failing to understand is that he didn't want to escape. From the very start Bjorn had something akin to respect and admiration for Patrick; he wanted his assertiveness and confidence. When he turns back towards the house it isn't because he cared for his daughters emotional well-being he just wanted to send more time with Patrick and stay away from his mundane life. A part of me feels that Patrick understood that as well and genuinely wanted Bjorn to join his "family"; taking him out to the gorge to try and unless his beast and subsequently showing him more of that darker side to see if he takes. Of course it doesn't though, Bjorn fails to cross over and just becomes another meek sheep to be culled.
Exactly he looked up to Patrick from the beginning and ignored all of the signs like his wife did all because he was bored with his life and was insecure about himself
I'd like to think the antagonists get a adrenaline rush from ruining family lives under the guise of a growing friendship and keeping the photos as trophies. Seeing how long they can get away with it until it bites them in the ass. The reveal reminded me of the white girlfriend's secret photos in the movie Get Out.
Exactly F that bunny!! If it was that important she would have remembered it. Jeez. I cant believe they even stayed ankther day after that! And that he didnt want to upset his wife by telling her why exactly they were fleeing in the middle of the night. He risked his only means to get away in order to avoid confronting, who he thought was the other couple, following them in the tailing car.
People pleasing is a dangerous game. More often then not, you get burned but it doesnt just affect you.. I feel like that was part of it, not so much the 'traditional man' as the willingness to bend over backwards for people. There is no shortage of people who do nothing because they dont want to cause trouble, who are in toxic relationships and friendships because they simply comply. And often, its children, your spouse/other friends, that really suffer. How many times have child molesters walked free because they were family or a friend or because it would cause a struggle for the parents? How many times do people allow abuse that they clearly see because they dont want to step up and be a whistle blower? Evil wins when good men do nothing.
this film was SO frustrating, but as many people are crippled by social niceties (as any one person would most likely be more terrified than we feel whilst watching a movie), i fear the majority would succumb to a similar fate. it was well-made, but YUCK. it's a hard watch, and an aggravating ending.
The movie was upsetting. Especially the end. But it’s a reminder to all of us, to not turn a blind eye. The parents reacted like many other parents or people in general. Many do what they did.
This film reminds me of one of my favourite scenes from the English-language version of The Girl with the Dragon Tatto. Daniel Craig's character, Blomkvist, is snooping around the killer's, Stellan Skarsgard's, house. He gets caught and Skarsgard invites him back in. No threats, no knives or guns - just an invitation. Craig's character knows this is a bad idea, but social graces require that he keeps up the facade of civility. Skarsgard even comments on that later, while getting ready to torture Craig. "Why didn't you just go home?" It was a chilling scene.
@@zyzir I can recommend it. I enjoyed the film. But I have never watched the Swedish original film, which is probably superior. Still - music, cinematography, story, acting - it was all good for me.
What would have been different...... 1. That makeshift bed would have gotten rejected immediately (Daughter sleeps with us) 2. Would have cussed Patrick out and went home when he tried to force my wife to eat meat. (The End) Playing along a bit further, if I stayed passed that point I would begin pushing on their comfort zones after the whole meat situation. 3. I would bother the ever lasting sh!t out of Patrick about what in the mystery shack. 4. I'd subtly call into question their parenting skills by constantly asking why lil Able acting strange. 5. I'd rummage through all of Patrick's stuff. 6. Boldly refuse babysitter. (No restaurant scene ) 7. Told Patrick that he looks like a Hobo Tim Curry 8. I would have beat the ever loving sh!t out of Patrick for walking in on my girl while she was using the shower. 9. Go home and sleep with the 10ga a bit closer from then on 🤣🤙 Also who has sex at a strangers house? I would be too paranoid about hidden cameras personally lol
i think any host will kick you out first the only onces that kept you around is to murder you so yes patrick would still have you around to the end with same ending
this comment made me laugh out loud because if it were an alternate universe and you decided to watch the actual movie instead you would be completely stressed and tense because this movie was stressful and tense let me tell ya hahahaha
My cousin recommended me this movie and we watched it with a few of my family members. He said it was soo good. After watching it we were so pissed at him and he just busted out laughing. He said his co-workers did the same thing to him. Now we recommend the movie to other people like it’s a chain reaction and say how it’s so good 😂😂
lol Bjorn is such a coward it isn’t even funny. dude didn’t even attempt to fight while he was in the car , he almost cried standing up for the couple’s “son” , even his wife had more courage than him throughout the film & she didn’t even try to attack the woman in the car after her daughter was taken.
Okay as soon as the little boy opened his mouth and show he have no tongue..that's red flags...... the couples would of been stated that the little boy was born without a tongue at the beginning of the film while on vacation..
from the moment they met Patrick was testing Bjorn to see if he was a suitable family for his little plan, for example asking him if he can have his chair just for Patrick to not use it at all, Patrick is constantly checking Bjorn and picking up on little things, basically saying to his face: you went back for the stuffed rabbit? what a hero, in this sarcastic way. its a small thing but this movie has a thousand of these little moments that make it great.
thats exactly what i said, ive been wishing for a movie that actually fucks me up and now that i finally got what i wished for im not quite sure im as glad as i thought id be (jk i love torturing my emotions)
The amount of rage from them hurting my loved one would give turn me into a monster! Even still they didn’t even try which was the disturbing thing. Literally “they let them “ do it
At the very end before they were killed. Its was 2 guys and 2 girls. They werent outnumbered or had a gun pointed at them so why not physically fight for your life at that point I mean what else is there to lose. Why just strip down and accept their fate. Why? Why? Why?
Not only would I die to protect my sons (which is what infuriated me about this movie) but the whole thing would never have happened to me. Why? "Honey? We got a postcard from that creepy couple we met on vacation. They want us to stay with them for a weekend 8 hours away." Me: "Nope. Too far. Hardly know them." Done.
Would love to see an Ending Explained vid for The Number 23 with Jim Carrey. It was an interesting movie that was a good bit trippy that could warrant a video explaining it all
For some godforsaken reason i now want a complete series of this.. Hear me out tho: Hear no evil; we see the psychos backstory and how they become murderers. See no evil, idk, another family get murdered? and a final Do no evil, where the final victims fight back and butcher the psychos. Oh and maybe with a horror twist ending: they turn into new villains, continuing the cycle.
Um, when it comes to some strange person watching my kid, I can absolutely refuse! Especially after mom's gut instinct starts telling her things ain't jivin' with this weird ass couple
This can also be related to a modern interpretation of narcissism. Towards the end we learn that this other couple is well aware that their actions are quite unorthodox, but they get away with them because their guests allow them to. This is often a reason narcissists tend to manipulate individuals. They believe that they deserve to be manipulated if they are not aware enough to realize they are being coerced which also fuels the predators ego for being able to control others they see as inferior. At the beginning we see the couple essentially playing along with social norms that they likely see as ridiculous; and as the plot progresses they begin to stay on the edge of social acceptability, slowly blurring the line of what their guests are willing to take and straying further and further from who we believed they were until they inevitably seize the playing field and reveal who they really are. Re-watching the plot, you can certainly see how this new perspective of the couple changes your interpretation from them just being weird to simply stretching the boundaries of what they can get away with for amusement. Let me know if I missed something that adds to or discredits this interpretation.
I think " Speak No Evil" is portraying what a lot of harden people have seen. People not standing up for themselves, people not leaving abusive relationships, or weaker people bullying stronger people and getting away with it. I've known people who were monsters in size get bullied by a little punk and they do nothing about it because " just turn the cheek", " It's not worth it", or " I don't want to get in trouble". People are slowly forgetting that a lot of serial killers preyed on the kindness and politeness of others to get their way with them, and I think the movie is pointing out we should stop being soo polite or else you will become a victim.. Don't act like a victim and you won't be a victim. As said, they literally made the couple undress, lay down, and get stoned to death with no weapons.. And there's people irl just like the couple that would go down the same route. Don't act like a victim and you won't be a victim.
lol nah in real life standing up for yourself will get you in trouble mostly, that wont end well you say dont act like a victim but btchin and making a scene when you stand up for yourself is exactly you becoming the victim bullies are always pushing people over while they stay in the safe zone the best bet is leave
That's not true at all. You need to stand up for yourself. There's times to learn to do it and don't, in this case of the movie they should of fought back.
@@mrchills7433 in the movie they have many chance to leave, could have just drive away while the guy is taking a piss lol the movie is an exaggeration of people being pushed over and not do anything at all. Fighting back should be the last resort
At first this movie scared me deeply because I consider myself a polite person and would let uncomfortable situations pass as a people pleaser. But then I remembered I'm very unsociable and I'd have to practically be years-long best friends with someone to be bothered to go out of my way to do what that family did. So I'd say I'm pretty safe 😂
Yeah look at what happend with covid, abuse from all sides, many people wouldn't speak up for others. Over here in Australia, there are campaigns on tv saying to speak up when you see stuff bad happening. Meek is an overstatement.
You mean the billion dollar companies do it and they do it for money. China and India are the leading contributors to waste and negative effects to the environment aswell.
As a Belgian I really resonate with the "polite to a fault" stereotype. We also just wave away any red flags because we dread being impolite. Dutch people are not this way and they are quite unique for that in western Europe so I think it's really interesting that this was a European movie because I'm tired of all the American movies. They can be good but this one being European adds more relatability. But probably another reason for Americans to think we're culty weirdos after Midsommar and Hostel.
This is actually a really cool movie. The killers are kinda like psycopath killers in the way that they choose their victim. Also, the way they manipulate people and say it's the victim's fault because they fell for it implies that they let people who don't fall for it live. It makes me remember of a Brazilian serial killer that only killed girls that would fall for charm and would follow him into the woods to get frisky, he said it was the girl's fault for falling in love for him.
The whole premise of this film reminds me of that scene with Martin Vanger in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Not gonna spoil it, but to sum it up in a quote: 'It's hard to believe that the fear of offending can be stronger than the fear of pain. But you know what? It is.' Interestingly, the book was written by a Swedish author. I know their cultures are close, but I don't know if this is something specific to the Nordics.
Yeah. Also the whole “don’t worry, as long as I’m here nothing will happen to you” is so hollow when you allow anything to happen to YOU. this is definite an ad for why you shouldn’t be a doormat for the sake of strangers feelings.
This movie is dark, it is so disturbing. The choices these parents make are so insane I just can't wrap my head around how they would make the choices that they do.
Such a tragic story and a cautionary tale about the potential dangers of passivity. I was horrified by the ending. However, my anger and frustration toward the Danes overshadowed my horror. There were so many red flags and many opportunities to get the heck out. Politeness quickly turned into downright foolishness. There's absolutely no excuse for it. The moment Bjorn turned around and went back, their fate was sealed. They couldn't even fight for their lives. A trauma response, I'm sure. I am eager to see how the remake compares. I am a big James McAvoy fan.
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I love how Bjorn didn't give a shit about his daughters school performance but was willing to go back for an easily replaceable stuffed animal when it would clearly risk their safety.
He didn’t care about the bunny either, he just didn’t want to disappoint her. At the performance, he wasn’t being watched, but at the end he faked his applause so that others wouldn’t think he was rude.
@@LoTheGoat lolz so tru
As a dane; this is pretty common, from my limited experience.
Small things are more important than big things. If you want to say he's doing it because he is being watched, that's fine, I am just adding my social understanding
Yo, a man's daughter is his world.
bc he didnt really care abt her being sad, he just needed the excuse to go back bc he didnt feel as unconfortable with the situation and i think he actually wanted to make a friend
All Bjorn had to do was tell his daughter the bunny is gone. They were practically home free at the point.
that exact concept is why im so thankful that i went through all the hard shit i went through in life that contributed to me being more hardened, and also more untrusting towards people, i used to be the exact same person as bjorn before highschool but now im 21 and in those years i did a COMPLETE 180
hail mephistopheles btw
Or uno fighting back with good chances of winning
@@zyzir edgy dork kek
She's too old to keep misplacing something so important to her. Whole fam was incompetent prey.
Wow. The amount of chances they had to escape this makes me wonder how many other families actually did escape by choosing to heed the warning signs
I surmised not many. Patrick and his wife had the ability to choose the perfect couples with the right age children.
None I’m assuming cause by then Patrick and his wife would have been in prison already.
Foundflix missed the scene but they had the couple pegged right at the start at the hotel when he asks if he could take his spare beach chair
@@yippykiyay89 I absolutely agree. Good call. It was an inconvenience to move his belongings, but he did it anyway. Bjorn should have told Patrick the chair was for his daughter.
@@yippykiyay89 they PEGGED?????
This was definitely a cautionary tale. I have told my kids since very young, trust your gut! Don’t worry about being polite when your gut is telling you something is wrong, even if you can’t put your finger on the exact reason why.
This!
So true . I am putting this as a wallpaper as long as I don’t grasp these words .
i'd argue thats it's not just about politeness, it's about knowing how to use it in a situation like this. the scene where he went back in the house for that stupid bunny, they had the perfect opportunity to politely lie and come up with an easy excuse for leaving so abruptly, not that going back for the bunny was even a bright idea in the first place. I could understand a father willing to take a risk for his daughter but dammit Bjorn folded like a chair when he was trying to explain why they left so suddenly and just made it worse for their own people pleasing personalities to handle. i don't doubt people exist out there that are just like this, plenty of suckers out there born every minute lol
@@musek5048 yep. a fucking family emergency and etc. something something happened
@@musek5048 Like they would fall for that bs when the family was already targeted.
The fact that Bjorn and Louise are stoned is quite telling of how they're perceived by their killers. They were stoned for their misdeeds which to me is thier lack of protective instincts of their daughter. I mean what parents take their child to a home of strangers? They knew nothing about them, and even after all their disturbing behavior, they still decided to stay.
Even worse, they left (after seeing what the wife saw), and went back... over a damn toy!
i guess in some depraved minds that justifies what happened to them.
Yeah and they left their daughter to a complete stranger babysitter when they went to dinner...
@@PaulDonaldRoyit doesn't justify, but it does make you upset that they had sooooooooooooo many chances to leave and they didn't.
Patrick even has a line which he says "because you let me"
The whole "stay with us" is basically a test where they prove if a family is passive enough to being abuse. They are predators, and predators have a pretty keen eye to detect the weaknesses they can exploit. If the family stand their ground, they probably can leave without harm, but if a family remains silent to the awkwardness is when they act and kill. Also they probably just act when they get bored of their new "child", that is more like a pet, maybe thats why they were progressively more abusive with Abel towards the end.
Abel was actively putting himself at risk to test the killer's boundaries and subtley warn the family. Closest thing to a hero in this film. It's what got him killed prematurely. When he showed Bjorn his tongue was cut out, it was the most blatant thing he could show them directly. When he chose to block the slide, he *knew* he was going to get in trouble but it was a passive attempt to get his abductors to drop their facade. When he was dancing, they might as well have had a gun pointed at his head. Kid knew he was literally dancing to save his life. The argument heard before he was drowned was probably the kidnapper's last attempt at getting the kid in line and when he refused to play along or stop crying, Patrick decided to get a new "pet."
@@RecluseBootsy I think the kid means nothing to them, it's just an excuse to invite a new family at their place?
smart assessment. Since it's low level wierdness the couples who go free probly don't even report anything because up till then they were just being inconsiderate and not threatening.
Remember that Abel don't speak English or Dutch.
Just like Agnes only speak Danish.
They are making sure the kid can't communicate in any way.
😢
@@RecluseBootsyi feel like his death wasn't premature it was planned for that night anyway as this was when they were going in for the kill of the parents and getting themselves a new "pet"...notice they never have more than one child at once
This concept is very real. People are so scared to seem unpolite that they will even put themselves in danger. Makes sense they would make a horror movie out of that.
i think most people will fight for their lives tho
It's made even better by the fact that the killers never at any point brandish a weapon at the couple. They literally just use the couples fear to essentially lay down and accept being stoned to death....shit is dark lol....
as someone with bad trauma, I hate that I would probably be this person. im so conditioned to be a pushover and scared to object.
its definitely real in that aspect
@@seanriley2534I think the scissors were the only "weapon"....
Yeah but the freaks behave so scary I would never have returned to them....
"Because you let us."
What a perfect summation of both sides of the human animal.
I feel your rage. I was actually enraged by the end of THIS video. Basically this Father had no balls. Period. It's always ok to say NO, even if somebody is being "polite".
Exactly !! This movie hit the biggest nerve . How do you killed by being stoned ! Literally just run 😂 I hate this
Wife had bigger balls than him. But even SHE turned out to be pretty feckless!
He's like the boyfriend from the Korean movie bad guy
@Greenscyth22 yess,and he should have put his foot down about going back for the rabbit..lol
@@johnlawful2272lmao, good example
As a Dane, I can tell you that, yes, the politeness is infuriating but it’s also very true to our culture. We don’t want to seem rude or as if we’re being culturally rude, so we force the politeness until it pretty much breaks our backs.
Honestly, I could only watch this once, and I don’t think I’ll ever watch it again, but I’m really happy that danish movies are getting some international credit!
you people are fucking stupid
They have been getting international credit for years, all of Nicolas Winding Refn movies have been seen by international audiences, even our tv series
@@weybye91 never heard of any of them
@@weybye91 Lars Von Trier is probably a more well known example
exacty lol im not even danish yet i understand that scandinavian culture in general produces folks who are very passive and timid and soft spoken up front because i have half a fuckin brain lol its pissing me off seeing all these comments from clueless ass people saying "the not standing up for themselves and not doing anything or fighting back ruined the movie" and "they didint even have guns" THEY ARENT AMERICANS YOU IDIOTS
The parents just standing there at the end ALLOWING rocks to be thrown at them couldn’t anger me more than it did. Not one time did I ever see any guns or any other type of weapon. How could you possibly let your own daughter be taken when the attackers aren’t even armed..? SMH
I think the daughter part frustrated me more. By the end their daughter has been taken and had her tongue cut out in front of them. They had nothing more to live for. If they were ever going to make a stand, it would have been when their daughter was taken
The typical Hollywood type man they push, but those days are numbered.
@@keenanb7318 Nope. Gotta be polite! Don't want to risk angering the people who are abusing you and your kids! Gotta be tolerant!
Yeah where's the fight or flight mode
@@RUclipsDweller8008 I think it's all too common that introverts who lack assertiveness find themselves in situations they could have easily gotten out of in an attempt to stay polite. I know I've been there lol. This is just a hyper exaggerated experience
I think this movie is actually trying to make you hate the parents of the girl because they're just not doing what they're supposed to do to protect her. They want you to hate them more than you hate the actual killers.
This is probably trying to bring light to how things are in that part of the world
Where its citizens just allow things happen to them and say nothing because of social backlash.
Psychologism
I like that perspective
I definitely hated them. They're modern parents that don't do anything but complain. If they do something they're actually supposed to then they'll be projected as the evil people. Basically twitter generation being parents.
huh? the fuck? im glad i didnt find myself perceiving it to be that way because thats honestly retarded imo, i feel utmost enraged at the pos killers and felt horrible for the family, thats completely backwards lmao like wtf did i miss
I find it interesting that some people have a difference between being stupid characters from bad writing or stupid characters because they’re trying to make a point. And I think this is a good example of a movie having stupid characters to make a point
Yeah! I agree 100% rare to see intentional bad decisions! And the point is very relevant. That type of weak push over personality is becoming more common and push overs are the WORST!! Because they expect you to read their minds. They never tell you what they want or need they just do whatever they believe you want, while becoming more and more resentful and passive aggressive. Ugh I despise those people honestly. That's how my mother is. Always playing the Martyr. Door mats really are pathetic and obnoxious.
EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN FILM has dumb characters to make a point.
@@WhitneyDahlin damn. You needed that vent session. Need to get anything else out?? Youve got an open forum😂
I agree for the first half of the movie but it feels like dumb writing when he didn't take the car or tell his wife. This couple has killed 100+ people and you do nothing when one leaves the car. But when he tells your wife to shut up you fight back? I don't get why he wants to fight now for something so little as being mean vs the couple being literal killers.
Theres no such thing as "bad writing". Most of the time it comes down to people being too dumb to understand what's going on.
I think the most infuriating thing for me was when Bjorn could’ve easily taken the car when Patrick was taking a piss. To me this is really when the point of the movie came full circle; he wasn’t willing to do something against the couple that’s unsavory to save his family’s lives.
I think there is a lot of social commentary here as well. When people do nothing and are pushed and pushed without fighting back eventually you end up in a point of no return. If you are in a bad relationship, you can't keep ignoring the problem or justifying it because that will never solve the problem. You have to take a stand and leave but it's difficult.
There's definitely a theme here - malicious people preying on self-interest and relying on apathy to not be held accountable. Ring a bell from anywhere?
- Is inflation making the cost of living near impossible? Don't hold your leaders accountable for their terrible economic policies, just make more money.
- Found out shady things were going on during the elections? Don't demand better electoral processes, just vote differently next time.
- Billions of dollars of taxpayer money being sent to Ukraine without once checking in with the voters? Don't get angry or else you're a Nazi and you don't want to get canceled, do you?
- Turned out the 'experts' were all lying through their teeth during the pandemic? Don't ask why the media lied to you, just keep getting jabbed because your employer demands it.
- Entirety of your home state melting because greedy rail corporations were cutting corners and bribing politicians? Don't file a class action lawsuit, just buy bottled water from now on.
That also reminded me of victims of domestic abuse who sometimes convince themselves their spouse will redeem themselves and continue to allow themselves and their kids to be abused for years. I do like the theme, because it reminds parents it's not just about themselves, it's also about the kids. it's like "ok you allow yourself to be abused, fine, but don't let your kids suffer too"
@SlimJim JimSlim oh were on to something and then you weren't
@@slimjimjimslim5923 Good sentiment but no one really 'allows' themselves to stay in an abusive relationship. Abusive partners aren't abusive assholes every single waking moment, sometimes they're apologetic, other times they're loving and oftentimes they make the victim feel that they're either overreacting or outright delusional to view any of their actions as abusive. That and deaths of victims in abusive relationships are often caused when victims decide to get up and leave or try to stand up to them.
There's definitely a point to be made about how being permissive in a bad relationship is never gonna do good for you or your loved ones but going straight into "Why don't you just leave? Seems like you condone it then" territory is a miss.
@@tarotsushima3332 but this is exactly what happened in this movie. The parents allowed their kids to be taken and allowed themselves to be killed. Forget about what happens in real world, focus on the intent of the movie directors. This is what I believe the movie director was going for .
As a dad of two, this was the hardest watch since the "baby scene" in Trainspotting. Be a guardian, parents; It's damn near your only job after they're born.
Whew! That baby scene was horrifying to say the least. Classic film though.
every dad would have told the kid to shut the f up and continue driving lol
watch THE COFFEE TABLE and get back to us
Remind me as it's been over 25 years since I've seen Trainspotting. What happened in the baby scene?
The frustration this film made me feel was very similar to how I felt watching “Welcome to the Dollhouse” just shouting at the screen, “DO SOMETHING! Why are you just taking it?!?” I’m a major push over, but these people were ridiculous!
Agreed and if that was the goal of the director then he succeeded but it made the movie frustrating annoying to watch. So much so that it negatively effected the movie for me.
@@JT-zy2ft wonder how the director would feel if the movie was a complete financial failure because of it
It's like listening to "true scary stories." Always saying, "I didn't think anything of it" and ignoring warning instinct after warning instinct. And I don't feel sorry for such people.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin what in the actual fuck are you on about
Yes I felt the same way watching the movie Creep. Another movie where politeness gets you killed.
There's also the fact that they immediately go after new kids seemingly before they decide to kill the one they have, So it isn't like they just want a child, they intend to just keep trading in for a new child constantly, regardless of how the child "behaves."
I thought that was the saddest part, honestly. The poor kids getting abused and eventually killed because of their parents mistakes.
The child is just a pawn for their sick game I think.
You get serial killers that will go after families.
What’s the deal with the babysitter? Makes me think there is also a peado ring going on also 😢
@@Lily2807exactly! That’s my though! When they said that the babysitter was cheap, I was like omg… yeah must be a PDFile.
Was that Abel floating face down in the pool? And do we know if Abel was their actual child or a stolen child? There were several photos of other families in that little room Bjorn discovered...
As a Scandinavian, you have NO idea how funny (in a super-dark way) the first half of this movie is. It basically deconstructs our most pathetic stereotypes and flaws, and makes the characters go to hell for it!
Would never happen to a Black couple, I fuckin' bet.
It could mean black people, due to poverty/trauma are more vulnerable. The more trauma, the more you see people like those in this movie, deeply disturbed or unable to cope. I say this coming from a country that also has this type of issue. Doesn't mean everyone is like this. @@DarknessUnresolved
@@DarknessUnresolvedthey won’t be even afford to go to the vacation in the first place 😂
@@nate6430yikes
@user-yx7ir6is1m it’s ok I’m black
This movie is a great example of the dangers of allowing civilitiy to drown out your natural instincts. We all get those gut feelings when something is wrong but most of us are afraid to be deemed "rude" or strange if we say/do something about it.
This is the only movie that ever made me scream at the screen "How can you people be so stupid ?!" And I've seen alot of movies with stupid people. But now that I think about it, it's probably the reaction the film makers wanted from the audience, I guess it worked.
im not even danish yet i understand that scandinavian culture in general produces folks who are very passive and timid and soft spoken up front because i have half a fuckin brain lol its pissing me off seeing all these comments from clueless ass people saying "the not standing up for themselves and not doing anything or fighting back ruined the movie" and "they didint even have guns" THEY ARENT AMERICANS
That's what the director said,he wanted to make a movie that made people angry
@@Partypooperfanmade you mean... he wanted to make...a....a...horror movie...?😧😨. like cmon🤣😅
@@Partypooperfanmade we live in a society today where people dont associate the word "horror" with anger and disgust, instead for some weird ass, retarded ass reason most people think it should almost be some kind of adventure, its pathetic tbh
A friend of mine made the score for this movie, and I followed on the sideline as it was released, knowing super little about what happened in it. Once watching it, I LOVED it, but I was honestly a little worried that it might be too Danish, becuase it is - it plays on some core values in Danish society that is hard to explain to others, like 'you don't complain, and ruin the good mood', and one of the reasons that we were called 'the happiest country in the world' is because we have a rock solid trust in the person next to us. An average Danish person would never think that someone was out to harm them, maybe rob their money, maybe beat them (if it's extreme). and that is why the sentence at the end 'because you let me' hits so hard for us who grew up in that culture. But I am SO, SO happy to see that it IS actually understood, maybe without the hard hitting deep rooted cultural unease, but understood, and felt - outside of Denmark. Thank you for covering this, I know alot of work and purpose went into making this movie. (and when people say, they had many chances to escape, that is what makes it Danish, cause they don't think anything really bad will happen, not really - we are simply not exposed or used to violence or ill intent, so to think others mean you harm, is simply both rude, and unthinkable).
an example is how the mother is a vegetarian (like myself) and when presented with meat - she choses to eat it, because to do otherwise would be rude to your host. Even if we know how little she wants to... or the infamous 'return for the teddy' that says a lot about how Danish society sees what being good parents are like. And combine that with the fact that they actually think that nothing bad will really happen. All in all it's a critical love letter to Danish mentality, wrapped in a story of violence and deep mental trauma. People here they vomited in the cinema and walked out, hating the movie - and that is because it hits home, hard. we all see ourselves in that couple. and even if we all sit there and think, dude buy her a different teddy at a gas station, we also know that chances are, we too would return for it, because we didn't want to upset the child.. again it's hard to explain. it's even more Scandinavian than Midsommar, what can I say?
i feel like in the USA its almost the complete opposite. im always wondering who is going to hurt me next and how. if someone is being completely nice to me, thats when im most suspicious of their true intentions
That is really interesting! I didn’t know it was like that.
this is interesting i love this explanation thank you for the cultural clue!
Thanks for explaining about Danish culture and it’s roots. Kind regards from a Brazilian girl!
If ever there was a movie about the importance of setting up healthy boundaries, this is it!!!!
At least the girl has her bunny toy in the end. That bunny toy is very important. 😂😂😂
yeah thats the final irony, none of that would have happened if they just let it go, yet they didnt so now she has it yet... well... the current reality
And they didnt even look under the seat before they returned to the maniac house..
Underrated comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That was also a way to get her to he quiet 😅
I would have told her in the car it's a f*****g inanimate object so shut up and we're going home NOW
This is the first movie I’ve watched where to me the “Why?” Did not matter. They do it cause they can. They do it cause people allow it. Such a wonderful movie about life, sometimes you play a huge part in your misfortune.
Something you didn't mention in the beginning when talking about why they let so much stuff happen without doing anything is cultural differences, there are many cultures where it is not really acceptable to confront people, it doesn't come naturally for one to engage in a confrontation no matter if they think they're right or not, they'll avoid it and try to be agreeable. I really believe that plays a key role in this story.
Absolutely. To add to what you said Nina, I get the vibe the movie was slightly misunderstood because of the lense from which it's viewed. This channel being american for an american audience and all. Lots of people who are confident, leaders, talkative and extroverted see these two and go "urgh i'd never LET that happen to me wtf?" but from the perspective of someone lower in the "social hierarchy". The movie protagonists (while being caricatures and exagerated) are frighteningly reaI.
I'm glad I'm not alone in this judging from some comments scrolling down: but I am unfortunately...a push over. The fear of taking action of being rude or of consequences makes it that the degree of "being taken advantage of" to a more predatory couple, this family went through is something that isn't so far fetched. Yes, the wrong decisions they took were frustrating (from a viewer stand point) but from a life lesson/fable standpoint, it's both terrifying and accurate imho, in a "in this situation. In the heat of not being able to think rationally I'd be there." Like when you're in a argument and only think of cool come back hours after the deed is done and over xD-
and the moral of the story is sometimes you disregard how people feel to improve your safety, had they told them to fk right off they'd still be fine
in the us south (where i grew up) there is a very strong desire for amicability and manners. ik this exists all over the US but its got a different quality to it in the south idk. i really liked this plot and it instantly reminded me of being afraid to speak up in social settings when something made me uncomfortable
That's not a good explanation. Being polite is one thing. Being polite while the safety of your own daughter is at stake is just stupid. For the vast majority of people, instinct would take over at that point.
@@CMV314right especially the part where the mom saw the naked guy with the daughter OR EVEN the babysitter
This movie just reinforces what I plan to teach my kids. Your need to be polite goes out the window the moment someone makes you uncomfortable.
I'm the kind of person who's polite to a fault and I've done a lot of stupid shit to avoid making someone potentially upset with me. A concept like this scares the shit out of me cause, even though I'd like to think I'm smart enough to see past the obvious lies, I worry that my fear of confrontation and appearing rude would cloud that vision.
Just undermine them in the background
use this as a blessing then, change it
Yep i was like that then i had kids and well let's just say i can be a b*** sometimes
This is why I don't go to stay at strangers houses
@@azertu2u2 i usually still may give people chances but i carry a knife with me and also know how to use it and my fists thats really all it takes is knowing you can defend yourself because heres the kicker, the people im around have to worry more about me than i have to worry about them and i myself know im not going to do anything to anyone unless provoked to do so because im not someone who wants to try and hurt people so it creates this sense of certainty and relaxing peace knowing that if someone was to try and hurt me i can gut them and get out of there and call the police in a matter of 45-55 seconds
As a Dutch person I can confirm we are all like that. :P The one thing they did get wrong is the cell signal. Our nation is the size of a postage stamp and we have an extremely dense infrastructure. Unless the signal gets actively blocked you _will_ have a signal no matter what forest you go to.
What do u mean yall are like that? I'm very interested
As my husband said: they had a phone all along when he had found a dead child and said nothing to his wife or damn police.
Yes,and all the missing families and no police looking for them,knowing where they went?!?!?? They probably communicated with the families, telling them the adress and everything and nobody knows?? They werent arrested or questioned? Please
@@ohwell708 RIGHTT ! it's like a thousand family they victimized yet no suspicious on the dutch family lol
lol you people think police are superhero or something?
so many people went missing and never found
police kept on eating donuts and shoot drunk guy with knife from a mile away
Police probably part of it
I got so angry they even fight.!...what a director!.
So sad too that the boy must have known his time was coming but had no way to speak it.
I’m glad my social anxiety would never get me into this situation. I wouldn’t talk to these people in the first place. Short movie 😂
But that’s actually where the partner comes into effect. I have social anxiety too, but I try to partner with more extroverted people, so they can push me out of my comfort zone. I would never in a billion years spend the weekend at a stranger’s home, but I have a feeling my partner would lol and I would go with him because I don’t want to ruin his excitement. I’m DEFINITELY not nice though, so I would have told my kid the toy is gone and deal with it, if my partner said we must get it, I would tell him to shut up and keep driving lol
Exactly, or even if we got along I sure as hell wouldn't drive 8 hours to hang out and stay at what are practically a strangers house 😂
They already knew in the first place that all of this was wrong lol Why would u even go in a stranger house with ur child
Seriously spending the night with a random couple you don’t even know just because you had a couple of laughs at a dinner is crazy smh
I think the reason they were both so passive at the end while being stoned to death was because the crazy couple had their daughter and perhaps they were hoping up until the last minute that they might release her. Either way though, the fact that the father was so passive throughout the movie led to his demise. He couldn't even tell his daughter "no" when it came to going back to the house where her bunny doll was. They would have all been alive had he stood up to her.
9:20 Nope. That's my limit. I would be 100% out of there - hell, I wouldn't have gone back in the car. Even if there was nothing else going on with the couple, their complete disregard for their own personal safety - let alone their guests - makes them too dangerous to stay with.
In fairness, I definitely wouldn't have left my child with a stranger either no matter how "nice" folk seem either.
Must be a cultural thing.
Lol I'd be out of there if my vegetarian wife was asked to eat meat.
thats literally the point, literally your last sentence.........
@@zyzir I have to think that even the Danes would stop short of meekly letting themselves be murdered & having their child mutilated.
Nonetheless, this really does seem to be a satirical commentary on society in general. "Because you let us" could easily be applied to the iniquities governments & social groups impose on people through manufactured consent. Which makes for deeply frustrating viewing, which is perhaps the point.
@@alharron2145 its overexaggerated to paint a picture, exactly
@@alharron2145 but it still only works because they are Scandinavian which are a very passive and timid people, it would be like if they made a movie with american characters that were overly conservative hillbillies, its just a storytelling device
I think it also speaks to how ignoring the behavior gives it an opportunity to escalate.
At first it's weird comments, then it's nothing sinister but just obvious jabs and lies, then moves on to physicality and ultimately into them being killed. At any point, they could have been assertive and stopped it but they let it go thinking it wasn't that big of a deal. They kind of became the frog in the water being boiled alive. Since the jabs and stuff started innocent enough, they didn't realize quite how badly things were getting despite the escalation being obvious to the outside viewer. It's how a lot of abusers keep their victims and its also how we end up with issues in society that just get worse and worse because no one who can is willing to put in the real work to stop it.
I honestly think it doesn't really matter why they did this, that's not the point. The point is, as mentioned also by others, is how our politeness and thinking of reprecautions ("what would the neighbors think??") is stronger than our instincts. This movie reminds me of the movie Compliance (which is horrifically based on a true story), where when people are pushed - this time based on what they perceive as authority from a police officer- they will ignore all red flags and do horrific things.
My thoughts exactly, which is why I think movies like that is a mandatory watch. I fear being rude or impolite, and I make an effort to work my way away from things that stir my gut feelings in the wrong directions. Worrying about what others will think is so unnatural.
@@netialouis527 It just occurred to me that this is especially true for women. We fear being called a bi**h or being rude to nice guys so when a creep is flirting and you just want to let them know you're not interested, we feel this pressure to not be an a-hole and potentially put ourselves at risk. Maybe I'm taking it to a different direction, but it was a thought I had...
There have been many psychological tests regarding this and how we comply with authority figures, including those we feel inferior to (even if they aren't actually in any position of power) and, generally speaking, it's a lot more likely that the average person will comply in a negative, unknown or terrifying situation than fight or be heroic, which is a very bleak thought. It's shown that people will actually be more likely to stand up to authority IF (ironically so) someone else has directed them to do so. It comes under the same mentality (sorry, I've forgotten the name of the proven theory) that, if there is a fire or car crash for example, a lot of people will stand there and not know what to do but if a person takes charge and they get someone in the crowds attention like saying "you in the red shirt, call the emergency services. You in the blue, come and help me" etc etc, that is when teh person/people will act with courage or a clear head.
We are generally more likely to be able to be brave when given direction and, often, permission.
@@wayasaunooke3424 Indeed, and I think you are talking about the Bystander Effect, where we tend to think that surely someone else will do something about it. But I think the more we spread awareness of it and encourage people to act ("If you see something, say something"), it will get better.
That’s an awful comparison, because police officers have weapons.
A lot of people are missing the point of this movie. Patrick and Karen are evil predators that thrive on the weakness of their victims. In this case they look for couples that are passive and submissive which is clear at the very beginning of the movie with the pool scene. When Patrick says he didn’t force them to be there he wasn’t lying. They wanted to test Bjørn and Louise to see how little backbone they had and how far they would let Patrick and Karen go. Hence the “because you let me” line at the end which summaries the point really well.
Literally everone got that,thats a shallow reading.
1. I agree that everyone got that and 2. the pool scene isn’t a great example because he really didn’t need an extra chair for his bag. Any decent human being would’ve given that chair away. The point of the film wasn’t „don’t let people on the subway take the seat next to you. Your bags deserve their own seat“ it’s „don’t say yes to everything“
@@illogical001 Gotta ask...does this qualify a good film? I read about the movie or heard specifics or plot developments and had a good feeling what they were going for. It Just seems like the theme,the message, is the "star" of the show here and that its more of a modern "allegory",more about a comment on our deep rooted need to not be seen as problematic and ungrateful,like a textbook example on how we rather get killed than get confrontational in any way,to be seen as understanding and tolerant,"the good neighbor" takes precedent to rocking the boat in any way,even if it would be for survival.
I ended up reading alot about it after having heard about the trauma inflicted on viewers and now that i have the plot summary and have heard your thoughts,I feel like Im not missing too much,like this couple is way too meak, weak and an exaggerated stereotype for it to really be believable.
I was hoping for the couple to have the hint of a weak spine,like they accept too much shit until they stand up for themselves in some way and if They're finally done in,it would be while fighting back,albeit too late and it be in context over something ironic, how they finally just let a minor transgression slide and this dooms them but no..... seems they accept insane shit from the word and honestly reads like natural selection.
The psychotic and grotesque escalation of testing the couples fear of confrontation sounds like it would work better in litterature and could be read with symbolism and ambiguity cause the mentality they have is I guess easy to culturally understand but what transpired in the plot seems to be a grotesque exaggeration,a cautionary tale hyped up to 11.
This whole plot sounds preordained and it seems the leads devolve,like this nice couple has Death tattoed on their forehead from the word go. They get a crash course in stranger danger to no avail.
Im just curious if this is legitimately a good movie or if the praise or disgust is less cinematic or if its social commentary that makes it relevant, the following debate actually being more of the art?
Cause i only ended up reading about it.and the summary and the whole narrative just made me boil. i do get that its the darkest satire possible but I wonder if it is a good watch,a rewarding watch.
Cause it refers to our meek scandinavian mindset but the events featured is of such elevated evil and unrealistic cowardice,it seems like the white people aquivalent of screaming and in my case it would be throwing Shit at the screen.
Should i watch this despite knowing the ending(which modern,cunty Imdb was nice enough to give away) to experience this elevated social awkwardness and nightmare myself? Cause i bet its clear 45min in these protagonists will never set their foot down so it seems as scary as fitting and Ieel like i will survive that the couple doesn't deserve to live.
But from what i heard, this seems like a great blueprint to something a bit more subtle where characters are polite and scared of offending but still really want to live and see the danger in their situation. But maybe there is alot to be said for our modern mantra "Surezu might get murdered but be tolerant and open minded even if it costs you your life."
Ps. Sorry...Yes,I just smoked a fat one. Didn't mean to let the text runaway from me but...it did,lol.
Doesnt excuse the dumb ending... run out of fuel, drive into the forest, get stuck, look for help, house is abandoned... and and and....
No-one missed the point of the movie. The movie is just unrealistic. Even the most passive person would have enough instincts to protect their daughter, yet they did nothing.
Practice this phrase: No thank you, I'm no longer comfortable. (Or) I'm going to need some space/time, I'm uncomfortable.
Exactly. Most people pleasers can’t say something like “Fuck that” those are polite phrases that allow you to establish boundaries
Your life may depend on it.
As someone with social anxiety, this movie really resonates with me, and probably with some people on the autism spectrum. To me, they're not being cowards, they just want the other couple to not hate them. Yeah, it's ridiculous, but the way this movie ends is what it feels like to be rejected by people who you wanted to like you.
They are stupid but not quite retard-levels
Standing there and physically letting yourself be stoned to death when you've had every opportunity to resist while letting a pair of murderers kidnap, torture, and abuse their daughter for the rest of her short and torturous life? kids gonna get beat to death and thrown into a pool because these two were so unrealistically cowardly nup until the very end
dude im exactly the same. i feel the couple should be more responsible because they are parents first, but oh my gosh if it was just me in this situation I'd probably let them stone me too if they told me it would make them like me LMAO
*gets stoned to death*
ARE YOU GUYS MAD AT ME?😂
Watched this with my husband tonight. We talked our shit throughout about the parents but when the mom was shaking holding her daughter in the back of the car then her daughter reaching out for her as the car pulled off tore me up, seeing reality sink in way too late was brutal. 😭
when i finished watching, I thought that the killer couple forcing the social boundaries slowly could be a way to psichologicly test whos up to be easily taken by them, that testing starts on the very beggining when he asks for the chair and they simply take their things to give, if they had said: no, were using it. they probably would have left them alone from that point, its like they can predict passiveness and go for people with that, reaching the point that they dont even care to have guns with them cause they can identify the type of people who are the ones that just freeze on extreme situations instead of reacting (and thats a real thing, some people when they are victmn of a criminal on the streets, even when they have a gun with them, simply feel completely unable to react).
The first time I tried to watch this movie, I quit when they turned around for the stuffed bunny. The movie was getting under my skin even though I couldn't quite understand why. But I was happy to watch Ending Explained to find out what happened. Once again, I was grateful for this video because it explained so much. These people made me nuts!
I think the film is deeply about child abuse and how some parents don't do anything about it (dont listen/believe the child) because they dont want to make a fuss. They do nothing to really help Abel. All theses photo of child being kidnapped is maybe a metaphore on how it keeps happening in many family when everybody keep secret that a child suffer. I think its for that reason that in the last scene they die by lapidation that express death by shame.
This reminds me of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. Martin says to Mikael that people are more concerned with politeness instead of reacting with their gut.
You would think self-preservation would trump being perceived as rude. Martin says that's how he got his victims. Chillingly true.
as an introvert this movie is way too uncomfortable
Bjorn is the embodiment of "nice guys finish last".
nah guy had a wife and daughter
Who both preished.
Patrick: /*sprouts horns and demon wings*/
Bjorn: "So we're on for dinner tonight?"
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This movie was my #1 favorite horror movie of 2022 (yes, even beating out "Barbarian"). The scene early on when Patrick keeps pushing Louisa to eat the pork would have ended the visit immediately. This movie is playing on Shudder, and most definitely worth a watch. Great review!
You know you heavily disagree with the protagonists when the ending happens like this and all you can say is “…..welp” lol
This is literally every Danish person in a horror movie’s setting ever. I think South Park called us the Canadians of Europe, guess that checks out here too
Something a lot of people are missing: This movie is Danish (Denmark). The family putting up with all this behavior is satire of traditional Scandinavian politeness: You don't yell at your kids, you respect people's space, you accept hospitality without protest, you don't just leave when you're uncomfortable, etc. The other family is Dutch (Netherlands), whose culture is more open-minded and straightforward, which often makes Scandinavians feel awkward or submissive.
That's also why the US remake is probably going to suck: There's no American cultural equivalent for that level of politeness. It's just a crazy family, so there's no actual reason for them to stay. It's just another example of US horror remakes not getting it.
No, the couple was just stupid. They way they tried to escape was extremely dumb.
Someone needs to bring the Norse Gods back. Once upon a time, you guys were the Marauders of the Northern Sea.
I wish I had seen this movie in my 20s. I have been lucky over the years but have been pushed to test my limits by people even when there were red flags. Hopefully this make people less trustful of strangers. I have learned the hard lesson, you cannot trust friends either.
I think whoever wrote this movie must have lived in Denmark for a period of time and felt like there was an unnatural amount of apathy in the area. Maybe the mailman slept in a few times a month, maybe the road crews didn't bother to repair any potholes--whatever it was, this person decided that the Danes never bother to take action on anything.
This movie is in fact Danish written and meant as a satire about the cultural pressure for social politeness to the point of ignoring one's instincts to avoid conflict because they don't want backlash for appearing rude. The writers are brothers who had parents that used to visit people they met on vacation. Nothing bad ever happened to them, but they figured the premise was a good launching point for a horror movie with the social commentary
@@sophialambert2616 Thanks for the info Sophia, really interesting to hear the backstory of the writers and how they came to write this somewhat strange movie
Which is ironic didn’t other surrounding nations (Finland,Sweden, Norway) complain about Denmark culturally dominating them?
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Well, the movie IS Danish, so that's a fair assumption.😐
To be completely honest with y’all, I don’t think I’ve EVER been this upset watching a movie my life. I’ve seen a lot movies btw.
Maybe kids in movies like this are written to be annoying.
Let the bunny go! Omg!
@@SmallWinch honestly it wasn’t even the kids that made me upset. It was like lack of balls from the husband and major stupidity from the couple in general that was pissing me off. But I think the directors were going for the type or reaction.
Then "Eden Lake" (2008, UK) will make you really blow a gasket! Damn teenagers is all I'm going to say. Watch THAT movie!
Same here
This movie simply just made me angry. Choices were definitely made.
I just started the video, cannot wait to see what made you angry
Oh….. I’m only halfway through the video and I have smoke coming out of my ears…
Its personifies the things women in true crime repeat, bitches don't get murdered. Being nice can get you killed.
It represents the typical Hollywood vaginas they call men. So glad this trend is dying. One more naked Thore self reflecting while he's stripped naked in front of hundreds and that's probably about it I hope
Tolerance over survival!
@@smarsh7779 I have *never* had a heart of gold, nor would I give a stranger the shirt off my back, but since I got my teeth fixed, NOW I have a smile that lights up the room!! I'm toast!!
It’s good that someone finally made this PSA about Dutch culture. Sadly it came too late for my daughter.😢
Was there ever a reveal that it was NOT Wild Boar but in fact the dead child before Abel?
The way you lay out the plot also makes me think this is a critique of the extremes of masculinity. Specifically BOTH sides. When you go too far into the traditional, you become mindlessly aggressive, domineering and destructive. But if you go too far into the "modern" aka more of a pacifist, you are taken advantage of and those you love will be harmed and you will be made by force or habit to simply suffer. Thus, the best solution is balance for men; knowing when you need to stand your ground and push back but also knowing when to let things roll off because it's not worth the hassle. At least in my option, that's another message form the movie.
I just watched this film for the first time, and as a dane myself I could relate to so many of the awkward situations. Especially when I go to places like the U.S. In Denmark most people don't really seek conversations, they usually avoid them at all cost, or only answer to not seem rude. We have this unspoken rule about being polite even in situations where you feel uncomfortable. In the beginning where Patrick (the dutch guy) asks if he can use the chair, you can (or at least I could) clearly see that Bjørn ( the danish man) is hestitant as to give it to him, because his daughter is using the chair, but because she's in the water at that moment, he doesn't want to seem rude, so he'll rather be a little uncomfortable via being 3 people using two chairs, than not giving up a chair that isn't being used at the moment. The same goes for when Patrick offers (I'd rather say forces) the meat to Louise. Bjørn tells her to "just take a small bite" as to not seem disrespectfull to the family who made them a nice meal. Same goes for when Bjørn ends up paying for the expensive meal at the restaurant. He doesn't want to come off as rude or disrespectful. And with Louise (the danish mom) she speaks her mind when her line is crossed big time, but because she isn't backed up by her husband, she doesn't want to seem crazy and overreacting so she retaliates. All in all this movie scares me more than a lot of other horror movies i've watched, because the way that I've been raised as a dane (with the unspoken societal politeness) makes me question when I would have stood my ground, especially when things started getting scary. And for everyone whose mad they didn't fight back at the end. Freezing up is a trauma responds, especially when you either know the dutch guys have got the balls to fight and you're used fleeing from every fight, coming your way. Most danes are way too good at shying away from conflict, so I believe a lot of danish people would freeze up in situations like this, just as the danish couple did.
I dont think lots of people would just freeze in situation like this. Survival instinct is stronger than whatever you were raised to believe
@@_stillbornspeak for yourself
@@debbieshuaib8467 I am speaking for myself.. but I also seen enough emergency situations to know how people act
@@_stillbornThat is quite a claim. There’s a reason why the common phrase is “fight, flight or freeze”. It is true that the freeze response isn’t usually permanent, but a lot of people still enter into shock and that’s it for them. I genuinely doubt you have seen any really dangerous emergency situations if you are saying this.
@@penguinexpert6581 I've been through war (as a civillian), and more "mundane" for the lack of better word dangerous situations. Im just speaking from experience, but whatever, I still find the couple's inaction unrealistic
The guy playing Patrick did it such a horrifyingly good job
The tragedy with Bjorn character is that he doesn't like himself and his life just as much as the audience does. There's many times he has a chance to "escape" but what people are failing to understand is that he didn't want to escape. From the very start Bjorn had something akin to respect and admiration for Patrick; he wanted his assertiveness and confidence. When he turns back towards the house it isn't because he cared for his daughters emotional well-being he just wanted to send more time with Patrick and stay away from his mundane life. A part of me feels that Patrick understood that as well and genuinely wanted Bjorn to join his "family"; taking him out to the gorge to try and unless his beast and subsequently showing him more of that darker side to see if he takes. Of course it doesn't though, Bjorn fails to cross over and just becomes another meek sheep to be culled.
No, he was just an idiot that couldn’t pick up on signs.
Exactly he looked up to Patrick from the beginning and ignored all of the signs like his wife did all because he was bored with his life and was insecure about himself
I'd like to think the antagonists get a adrenaline rush from ruining family lives under the guise of a growing friendship and keeping the photos as trophies. Seeing how long they can get away with it until it bites them in the ass. The reveal reminded me of the white girlfriend's secret photos in the movie Get Out.
Exactly F that bunny!! If it was that important she would have remembered it. Jeez.
I cant believe they even stayed ankther day after that! And that he didnt want to upset his wife by telling her why exactly they were fleeing in the middle of the night. He risked his only means to get away in order to avoid confronting, who he thought was the other couple, following them in the tailing car.
People pleasing is a dangerous game. More often then not, you get burned but it doesnt just affect you.. I feel like that was part of it, not so much the 'traditional man' as the willingness to bend over backwards for people. There is no shortage of people who do nothing because they dont want to cause trouble, who are in toxic relationships and friendships because they simply comply. And often, its children, your spouse/other friends, that really suffer.
How many times have child molesters walked free because they were family or a friend or because it would cause a struggle for the parents? How many times do people allow abuse that they clearly see because they dont want to step up and be a whistle blower? Evil wins when good men do nothing.
this film was SO frustrating, but as many people are crippled by social niceties (as any one person would most likely be more terrified than we feel whilst watching a movie), i fear the majority would succumb to a similar fate. it was well-made, but YUCK. it's a hard watch, and an aggravating ending.
Man that was dark and brutal. They had so many chances to save themselves but had to go back 😭
the "why are you doing this to us?" ==> "Because, you let me." part was a hell of a gut check.
The movie was upsetting.
Especially the end.
But it’s a reminder to all of us, to not turn a blind eye.
The parents reacted like many other parents or people in general.
Many do what they did.
How this movie would play out in America: "Can I use this chair? No. Go fuck yourself." roll credits 😂
American remake just came out, not what happened 😅
This film reminds me of one of my favourite scenes from the English-language version of The Girl with the Dragon Tatto. Daniel Craig's character, Blomkvist, is snooping around the killer's, Stellan Skarsgard's, house. He gets caught and Skarsgard invites him back in. No threats, no knives or guns - just an invitation. Craig's character knows this is a bad idea, but social graces require that he keeps up the facade of civility. Skarsgard even comments on that later, while getting ready to torture Craig. "Why didn't you just go home?" It was a chilling scene.
oooooooh imma have to watch that, always known bout that movie but it was one of the ones i always thought would be overrated
@@zyzir I can recommend it. I enjoyed the film. But I have never watched the Swedish original film, which is probably superior. Still - music, cinematography, story, acting - it was all good for me.
@@zyzirit's a good movie. It's good good actors. Rooney Mara is one of my favorites
100% worth it. The Swedish original is a masterpiece.
What would have been different......
1. That makeshift bed would have gotten rejected immediately (Daughter sleeps with us)
2. Would have cussed Patrick out and went home when he tried to force my wife to eat meat. (The End)
Playing along a bit further, if I stayed passed that point I would begin pushing on their comfort zones after the whole meat situation.
3. I would bother the ever lasting sh!t out of Patrick about what in the mystery shack.
4. I'd subtly call into question their parenting skills by constantly asking why lil Able acting strange.
5. I'd rummage through all of Patrick's stuff.
6. Boldly refuse babysitter. (No restaurant scene )
7. Told Patrick that he looks like a Hobo Tim Curry
8. I would have beat the ever loving sh!t out of Patrick for walking in on my girl while she was using the shower.
9. Go home and sleep with the 10ga a bit closer from then on 🤣🤙
Also who has sex at a strangers house? I would be too paranoid about hidden cameras personally lol
#7 tho😂
i think any host will kick you out first
the only onces that kept you around is to murder you
so yes patrick would still have you around to the end with same ending
@@loucipher7782 I don't listen to anyone who likes their own comments. Trying to start drama over a 6 month old comment, get a life XD
The moment when he went back for the bunny the first and second time I already knew it was downhill from there
Watching this while monitoring my bunny's health as I'm worried, really just eases the stress and tension! Thanks FoundFlix! 😊
this comment made me laugh out loud because if it were an alternate universe and you decided to watch the actual movie instead you would be completely stressed and tense because this movie was stressful and tense let me tell ya hahahaha
My cousin recommended me this movie and we watched it with a few of my family members. He said it was soo good. After watching it we were so pissed at him and he just busted out laughing. He said his co-workers did the same thing to him. Now we recommend the movie to other people like it’s a chain reaction and say how it’s so good 😂😂
This movie is a great way to troll people indeed
lol Bjorn is such a coward it isn’t even funny. dude didn’t even attempt to fight while he was in the car , he almost cried standing up for the couple’s “son” , even his wife had more courage than him throughout the film & she didn’t even try to attack the woman in the car after her daughter was taken.
"Why are you murdering us?"
"Skill issue."
Okay as soon as the little boy opened his mouth and show he have no tongue..that's red flags...... the couples would of been stated that the little boy was born without a tongue at the beginning of the film while on vacation..
from the moment they met Patrick was testing Bjorn to see if he was a suitable family for his little plan, for example asking him if he can have his chair just for Patrick to not use it at all, Patrick is constantly checking Bjorn and picking up on little things, basically saying to his face: you went back for the stuffed rabbit? what a hero, in this sarcastic way.
its a small thing but this movie has a thousand of these little moments that make it great.
I haven’t seen a movie this fucked up in a while. I felt a knot in my stomach from the frustration and anger.
thats exactly what i said, ive been wishing for a movie that actually fucks me up and now that i finally got what i wished for im not quite sure im as glad as i thought id be (jk i love torturing my emotions)
The amount of rage from them
hurting my loved one would give turn me into a monster! Even still they didn’t even try which was the disturbing thing. Literally “they let them “ do it
I've watched this with my family. They got pissed at how the family just accepted their fate. My gf was fuming!
Yeah that was the goal but it did so in a way that negatively effected the movie for me.
At the very end before they were killed. Its was 2 guys and 2 girls. They werent outnumbered or had a gun pointed at them so why not physically fight for your life at that point I mean what else is there to lose. Why just strip down and accept their fate. Why? Why? Why?
Not only would I die to protect my sons (which is what infuriated me about this movie) but the whole thing would never have happened to me. Why? "Honey? We got a postcard from that creepy couple we met on vacation. They want us to stay with them for a weekend 8 hours away."
Me: "Nope. Too far. Hardly know them." Done.
Would love to see an Ending Explained vid for The Number 23 with Jim Carrey. It was an interesting movie that was a good bit trippy that could warrant a video explaining it all
That movie was absolutely horrendous, so unnecessarily convoluted with plot holes
I bet you where shocked at the reveal that the author "Topsy Kretts" was actually the phrase "Top Secret"
Yes I've mentioned this movie it would b good fantastic movie
Was expecting to see James Mcavoy but left with a burning rage and a intrinsic lesson about survival over politeness
Who else just saw the new film and seeing the differences here?
The new one ends better.
@@A_RUclips_Commenter agreed
For some godforsaken reason i now want a complete series of this.. Hear me out tho:
Hear no evil; we see the psychos backstory and how they become murderers.
See no evil, idk, another family get murdered?
and a final Do no evil, where the final victims fight back and butcher the psychos. Oh and maybe with a horror twist ending: they turn into new villains, continuing the cycle.
Um, when it comes to some strange person watching my kid, I can absolutely refuse! Especially after mom's gut instinct starts telling her things ain't jivin' with this weird ass couple
This can also be related to a modern interpretation of narcissism. Towards the end we learn that this other couple is well aware that their actions are quite unorthodox, but they get away with them because their guests allow them to. This is often a reason narcissists tend to manipulate individuals. They believe that they deserve to be manipulated if they are not aware enough to realize they are being coerced which also fuels the predators ego for being able to control others they see as inferior. At the beginning we see the couple essentially playing along with social norms that they likely see as ridiculous; and as the plot progresses they begin to stay on the edge of social acceptability, slowly blurring the line of what their guests are willing to take and straying further and further from who we believed they were until they inevitably seize the playing field and reveal who they really are. Re-watching the plot, you can certainly see how this new perspective of the couple changes your interpretation from them just being weird to simply stretching the boundaries of what they can get away with for amusement. Let me know if I missed something that adds to or discredits this interpretation.
I think " Speak No Evil" is portraying what a lot of harden people have seen. People not standing up for themselves, people not leaving abusive relationships, or weaker people bullying stronger people and getting away with it. I've known people who were monsters in size get bullied by a little punk and they do nothing about it because " just turn the cheek", " It's not worth it", or " I don't want to get in trouble". People are slowly forgetting that a lot of serial killers preyed on the kindness and politeness of others to get their way with them, and I think the movie is pointing out we should stop being soo polite or else you will become a victim.. Don't act like a victim and you won't be a victim. As said, they literally made the couple undress, lay down, and get stoned to death with no weapons.. And there's people irl just like the couple that would go down the same route. Don't act like a victim and you won't be a victim.
lol nah in real life standing up for yourself will get you in trouble mostly, that wont end well
you say dont act like a victim but btchin and making a scene when you stand up for yourself is exactly you becoming the victim
bullies are always pushing people over while they stay in the safe zone
the best bet is leave
That's not true at all. You need to stand up for yourself. There's times to learn to do it and don't, in this case of the movie they should of fought back.
@@mrchills7433 in the movie they have many chance to leave, could have just drive away while the guy is taking a piss lol
the movie is an exaggeration of people being pushed over and not do anything at all. Fighting back should be the last resort
At first this movie scared me deeply because I consider myself a polite person and would let uncomfortable situations pass as a people pleaser.
But then I remembered I'm very unsociable and I'd have to practically be years-long best friends with someone to be bothered to go out of my way to do what that family did. So I'd say I'm pretty safe 😂
No amount of guilt tripping would have me do what they did 🤣
“Why are u doing this?”
“Because you let us”
Man that has a lot of relevancy in todays climate😭
Yeah look at what happend with covid, abuse from all sides, many people wouldn't speak up for others.
Over here in Australia, there are campaigns on tv saying to speak up when you see stuff bad happening.
Meek is an overstatement.
You mean the billion dollar companies do it and they do it for money. China and India are the leading contributors to waste and negative effects to the environment aswell.
It reminded me of “because you were home” from The Strangers
@@MistyWarden exactly
As a Belgian I really resonate with the "polite to a fault" stereotype. We also just wave away any red flags because we dread being impolite.
Dutch people are not this way and they are quite unique for that in western Europe so I think it's really interesting that this was a European movie because I'm tired of all the American movies. They can be good but this one being European adds more relatability. But probably another reason for Americans to think we're culty weirdos after Midsommar and Hostel.
As an American you're God damn right, I'm never visiting where you Dutch people live 😭😭😭
There was a Dutch family and then there was this Danish family, almost sounds like a joke is about to be said.
This movie teaches people a lesson I've known from birth. Don't socialize. People are weird.
Crazy to me the only time Bjorn showed any balls was when he was yelling at the family he was supposed to protect.
This is actually a really cool movie. The killers are kinda like psycopath killers in the way that they choose their victim. Also, the way they manipulate people and say it's the victim's fault because they fell for it implies that they let people who don't fall for it live. It makes me remember of a Brazilian serial killer that only killed girls that would fall for charm and would follow him into the woods to get frisky, he said it was the girl's fault for falling in love for him.
The whole premise of this film reminds me of that scene with Martin Vanger in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Not gonna spoil it, but to sum it up in a quote: 'It's hard to believe that the fear of offending can be stronger than the fear of pain. But you know what? It is.'
Interestingly, the book was written by a Swedish author. I know their cultures are close, but I don't know if this is something specific to the Nordics.
Yeah. Also the whole “don’t worry, as long as I’m here nothing will happen to you” is so hollow when you allow anything to happen to YOU.
this is definite an ad for why you shouldn’t be a doormat for the sake of strangers feelings.
This movie is dark, it is so disturbing. The choices these parents make are so insane I just can't wrap my head around how they would make the choices that they do.
Such a tragic story and a cautionary tale about the potential dangers of passivity. I was horrified by the ending. However, my anger and frustration toward the Danes overshadowed my horror. There were so many red flags and many opportunities to get the heck out. Politeness quickly turned into downright foolishness. There's absolutely no excuse for it. The moment Bjorn turned around and went back, their fate was sealed. They couldn't even fight for their lives. A trauma response, I'm sure.
I am eager to see how the remake compares. I am a big James McAvoy fan.