Had a heated Keiss waistcoat for my year-round 62 mile commute down the A3. Life. Saving. End of. Total convert after that. Light bulb moment. Wish I bought the battery kit for walk around days. Magnificent kit.
I have the gen4 jacket, my only concern is with the all the wires & receiver in the pocket it makes it bulky on that side, plus with the receiver in its little pocket it sits at the belt line,which can be uncomfortable
I have had WarmnSafe heated gear for 2 years now. I live in Alaska, USA where riding in the summer you can hit near-freeaing temperatures in some of the passes. Excellent quality compared to other brands I have tried. The dial controller is a little old fashioned but once you use it, you won't want to go back to buttons or apps. I just purchased a set of their ultimate touring gloves and they are very similar in feel and quality to my Rukka Imatra gloves. I second the notion about concentration and being warm. I would not have recognized the difference in concentration when warm as compared to cold until trying the heated gear. Thanks for the review.
I have had my trusty Giali heated waistcoat for over 20 years. Still going strong and make winter riding a pleasure. Might upgrade to the jacket though.
@@danthechippie4439 yes they do the leggings as well and i have them and they are great. i was out the other day and had all the warm and safe gear and was as warm as toast, Best money on motorcycle gear that i have spent.
@@darseyno1520 hi Darsey, I am currently using a merino wool base layers top and leggings, would you recommend wearing the worm and safe leggings and top (not jacket) underneath or would you simply swap out the merino? Cheers
@@danthechippie4439 I have the warm and safe heated pants and just ordinary motorcycle gear on top. Never needed any thing else except when i had two kawasaki z1000 sx's as the faring on them seem to blow the air in around the top of your legs and lower body. The best think is to try and see what works best for you.
Thanks for your comment. The differences are marked, but let me make just a couple of observations that put clear blue water between the two brands. The Warm and Safe jacket is lighter and thinner, and if you want even less less bulk, the American brand has a heated base layer. The Warm and Safe jacket develops much more heat than the Keis. With the high-tech soldering that is used on all the wiring, the Warm and Safe gear is far less susceptible to failure, hence the lifetime warranty. The controller allows much greater freedom to control the heat, but importantly it connects by Bluetooth, and not by a physical wire. I could go on, but suffice it to say that there’s chalk and there’s cheese!
@@motolegends2606 Maybe it's lighter and thinner, but Keis is also very thin and light, almost not noticeable ,the difference.More heat is possible, but at 0°,you only need to put the Keis on the lowest setting,so that is no argument.The controller,it seems like w&s wins that one.Keis is also top quality with life time warranty.What I don't like about keis are their gloves, not warm enough(have to put them on highest setting with the heated grips on full power on my gs(in 0°)and the protector on the handpalm is to thick so it becomes super annoying after some time(it keeps your hand 0.5 cm away from the handlebars).Another thing I don't like with Keis jackets is that you can't put the jacket in your trousers because the jacket is to short,so you get a gap between jacket and pants that becomes a little cold after some time,but it seems that W&S has that same issue.It seems to me they are equal,just my idea.
This video is by far the best one I have seen so far and I have seen many!!! Very well detailed subject no sales BS, straight to the point, well done! I subscribe to the channel and I'll get the heated gear:-)
They are great until something goes out. I had my controller crash on me riding in a light rain at 40F. Thought I wash gonna perish before I got to a gas station. I carry a back up..
Very persuasive - and I speak as an all year rider who normally takes the view that heated clothing is god’s way of telling you to take the car/train. I would look seriously at this system. BTW Sarah should present this videos Chris- she’s even better than you! 😂
Another excellent video, thanks Chris. I use bike all year round and only now am thinking its time to spend on heated gear and make the 28mile round trip each day better. Also its less kit to take off when I get to work at 5am. just one thing though, what is the life expectancy of the jacket?
Christopher Hudson Hi Christopher. Life time guarantee on elements. I guess the wear on jacket itself depends on usage but you should get plenty of years out of it. ML
I am used to riding in a merino wool base layer (long sleeve shirt and pants) would the worm and safe work over my base layers include the pants or should the warm and safe be used INSTEAD of my base layers?
I am loving your videos & the info they contain. Im a "new" biker after driving a car for the last 50 years. You should have a slot on the stage and I don't mean sweeping ity🤣
love this store. however i don't agree about the heated gloves i defy anyone to get there normal gloves on over a pair of heated liners and wear them for more than a few minutes . it only works if you buy a pair of gloves bigger than you would normally wear and as for the heat elements running around the side of the gloves, surely it needs to be around the fingers like Gerbings. Gerbings know a lot about heating and alot about gloves now. they are also a lot cheaper then these. I also have to say the jacket is very similar to the Gerbing one but as with the Gerbing getting the gloves wired to the jacket is a right pfaff when you have one glove on. thanks for a great review. nice bike by the way. Geoff
Little bit confused about some of your comments. Yes, it is true that you need to have room in your outer glove in order to fit the Warm & Safe inside it. We make no secret of this. But the elements in the Warm and Safe glove run up and down the fingers, and so are as close to the fingers as it’s possible to get. You cannot get cold fingers in these gloves; the problem is actually burning your fingers if you do not use the controller. The issue with traditional heated gloves like those from Gerbing is that the elements run in the linings, and you end up heating the external air as much as you do your hands. But the other reason that we like the W&S solution is that it gives you the ability to buy the gloves that you like and that you feel give you the level of protection you want. There are hundreds of different gloves out there, and bikers like to choose the ones they feel confident in. Gerbing is not famous for its knowledge of glove making. They know about heating. They only offer three or four styles of glove. Most of them have cuffs so thick that you can’t tuck them into the sleeve of your jacket, meaning that water can run down the sleeve into the glove. And most are made entirely of leather meaning that they are going to absorb a lot of moisture in the rain. There’s nothing wrong with Gerbing’s gear. It does a job and it’s cheap enough, but if you want the highest levels of protection and the highest levels of heat, Warm & Safe is the way to go.
We use the Microstart powerbanks and they work fine. Yes they do need to be 12v. If you are using regularly on the bike much more sensible to wire in. Battery power really for occasional use. I agree you won’t be able to run jacket, gloves , pants all off a very small capacity bike. ML
First off great videos to everyone one from moto legends! My question is regarding the removal of your thermal layer inside your Belstaff jacket when using your heated gear, wouldn't keeping it in make your jacket even warmer and more windproof?
Yes, I suppose it would. The issue would be about bulk and whether you have enough room for both the jacket thermal and a heated jacket. Potentially the jacket is then too big if you are not wearing all those layers! ML
Winter riding is 100% a miserable experience, heated gear is the way forward, mega pricey IMHO ... I refuse to ride in winter now as it's just not safe to ride in torrential rain, regardless what big bucks high tech gear you wear...get the car out or catch a bus...bikes are for enjoying, winter riding doesn't even come close to being enjoyable, plus road salts destroy any bike.
I'm sure there are worse crack habits out there than the one I have with Motolegends videos & the inevitable purchase that then ensues. Oh, and Chris? Your Ma says your dinner's in the oven & you're grounded for a week #twatinthecap
Officially the highest quality and most entertaining gear reviews on RUclips. Keep them coming team!
I've had my Keis Jacket for around 10 years. it's transformed my winter riding for the better!
You are an absolute natural presenter, faultless, subd 👏🙏😁🏴
I reckon that's 30K hearty chuckles with that intro! Another brilliant review.
I swear by my Warm & Safe gear. Thanks for doing such a great review! They deserve the awareness. Great customer service!
Had a heated Keiss waistcoat for my year-round 62 mile commute down the A3. Life. Saving. End of. Total convert after that. Light bulb moment. Wish I bought the battery kit for walk around days. Magnificent kit.
Keis is fantastic,I have it also, don't see where Warm&Safe is better?!The fit from Keis is also fantastic.
I have the gen4 jacket, my only concern is with the all the wires & receiver in the pocket it makes it bulky on that side, plus with the receiver in its little pocket it sits at the belt line,which can be uncomfortable
I have had WarmnSafe heated gear for 2 years now. I live in Alaska, USA where riding in the summer you can hit near-freeaing temperatures in some of the passes. Excellent quality compared to other brands I have tried. The dial controller is a little old fashioned but once you use it, you won't want to go back to buttons or apps. I just purchased a set of their ultimate touring gloves and they are very similar in feel and quality to my Rukka Imatra gloves. I second the notion about concentration and being warm. I would not have recognized the difference in concentration when warm as compared to cold until trying the heated gear. Thanks for the review.
Do they provide leggings as well?
@@danthechippie4439 they do offer base layer pants/trousers.
Had heated kit for a few years nothing beats its 👍
Amazing reviews keep up the quality and detailed work
Chris, your mom is cool!!
Another excellent video Chris, definitely worth a look
Many thanks!
I have had my trusty Giali heated waistcoat for over 20 years. Still going strong and make winter riding a pleasure. Might upgrade to the jacket though.
i have this gear and it is absolutely fantastic. i would highly recommend it
Do warm and safe provide leggings as well or is keeping the core good enough? Cheers
@@danthechippie4439 yes they do the leggings as well and i have them and they are great. i was out the other day and had all the warm and safe gear and was as warm as toast, Best money on motorcycle gear that i have spent.
@@darseyno1520 cheers 🍻
@@darseyno1520 hi Darsey, I am currently using a merino wool base layers top and leggings, would you recommend wearing the worm and safe leggings and top (not jacket) underneath or would you simply swap out the merino? Cheers
@@danthechippie4439 I have the warm and safe heated pants and just ordinary motorcycle gear on top. Never needed any thing else except when i had two kawasaki z1000 sx's as the faring on them seem to blow the air in around the top of your legs and lower body. The best think is to try and see what works best for you.
I also looked at video's of Keis heated gear and I don't see why you would think this one is better.
Thanks for your comment. The differences are marked, but let me make just a couple of observations that put clear blue water between the two brands. The Warm and Safe jacket is lighter and thinner, and if you want even less less bulk, the American brand has a heated base layer. The Warm and Safe jacket develops much more heat than the Keis. With the high-tech soldering that is used on all the wiring, the Warm and Safe gear is far less susceptible to failure, hence the lifetime warranty. The controller allows much greater freedom to control the heat, but importantly it connects by Bluetooth, and not by a physical wire. I could go on, but suffice it to say that there’s chalk and there’s cheese!
‘Motolegends
@@motolegends2606 Maybe it's lighter and thinner, but Keis is also very thin and light, almost not noticeable ,the difference.More heat is possible, but at 0°,you only need to put the Keis on the lowest setting,so that is no argument.The controller,it seems like w&s wins that one.Keis is also top quality with life time warranty.What I don't like about keis are their gloves, not warm enough(have to put them on highest setting with the heated grips on full power on my gs(in 0°)and the protector on the handpalm is to thick so it becomes super annoying after some time(it keeps your hand 0.5 cm away from the handlebars).Another thing I don't like with Keis jackets is that you can't put the jacket in your trousers because the jacket is to short,so you get a gap between jacket and pants that becomes a little cold after some time,but it seems that W&S has that same issue.It seems to me they are equal,just my idea.
Darn that lady was lovely 😊 !
Lol ha ha that’s actually what I was thinking. Damn she looks amazing for her age!
Yum 🤤!
@@darrenblackwood2616 1²
I think you need these my friend.👓👓
@@paulreynolds9003 sure dooooo !!
This video is by far the best one I have seen so far and I have seen many!!! Very well detailed subject no sales BS, straight to the point, well done! I subscribe to the channel and I'll get the heated gear:-)
I'll keep you warm Sarah. 😉
They are great until something goes out. I had my controller crash on me riding in a light rain at 40F. Thought I wash gonna perish before I got to a gas station. I carry a back up..
I have both with the heat controller and its very good
Brilliant as always Chris. I was curious to know if warm and safe supply anything for below the waist?
Have you used the 7.4V heated shirt with a battery? How long does it last and down to what temp is it effective?
Two questions: Since the time from this review (as of now, three years) are the opinions holding? Can Gerbing connections work with Warm & Safe?
Enjoy the video and the cap where can I find the cap
You're funny and great information. Thanks
Don’t warm and safe make heated trousers and socks. ??
How long do the batteries last in the controller ??
Very persuasive - and I speak as an all year rider who normally takes the view that heated clothing is god’s way of telling you to take the car/train. I would look seriously at this system. BTW Sarah should present this videos Chris- she’s even better than you! 😂
Another excellent video, thanks Chris. I use bike all year round and only now am thinking its time to spend on heated gear and make the 28mile round trip each day better. Also its less kit to take off when I get to work at 5am. just one thing though, what is the life expectancy of the jacket?
Christopher Hudson
Hi Christopher. Life time guarantee on elements. I guess the wear on jacket itself depends on usage but you should get plenty of years out of it. ML
Why is its so difficult to find high quality heated boots??
Great review. Thanks.
Thanks! Excellent video.
I am used to riding in a merino wool base layer (long sleeve shirt and pants) would the worm and safe work over my base layers include the pants or should the warm and safe be used INSTEAD of my base layers?
I would think if its thin merino then above and if its thick replace it. did you go ahead and buy it? what did you do?
4:36 that Mural behind you looks like Steve McQueen from the Movie "The Great Escape" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Escape_(film)
Funny that!
The car was a great invention especially the heater. Motorcycle is ok if you live in California.
I am loving your videos & the info they contain. Im a "new" biker after driving a car for the last 50 years. You should have a slot on the stage and I don't mean sweeping ity🤣
love this store. however i don't agree about the heated gloves i defy anyone to get there normal gloves on over a pair of heated liners and wear them for more than a few minutes . it only works if you buy a pair of gloves bigger than you would normally wear and as for the heat elements running around the side of the gloves, surely it needs to be around the fingers like Gerbings. Gerbings know a lot about heating and alot about gloves now. they are also a lot cheaper then these. I also have to say the jacket is very similar to the Gerbing one but as with the Gerbing getting the gloves wired to the jacket is a right pfaff when you have one glove on. thanks for a great review. nice bike by the way.
Geoff
Little bit confused about some of your comments. Yes, it is true that you need to have room in your outer glove in order to fit the Warm & Safe inside it. We make no secret of this. But the elements in the Warm and Safe glove run up and down the fingers, and so are as close to the fingers as it’s possible to get. You cannot get cold fingers in these gloves; the problem is actually burning your fingers if you do not use the controller. The issue with traditional heated gloves like those from Gerbing is that the elements run in the linings, and you end up heating the external air as much as you do your hands. But the other reason that we like the W&S solution is that it gives you the ability to buy the gloves that you like and that you feel give you the level of protection you want. There are hundreds of different gloves out there, and bikers like to choose the ones they feel confident in. Gerbing is not famous for its knowledge of glove making. They know about heating. They only offer three or four styles of glove. Most of them have cuffs so thick that you can’t tuck them into the sleeve of your jacket, meaning that water can run down the sleeve into the glove. And most are made entirely of leather meaning that they are going to absorb a lot of moisture in the rain. There’s nothing wrong with Gerbing’s gear. It does a job and it’s cheap enough, but if you want the highest levels of protection and the highest levels of heat, Warm & Safe is the way to go.
Could you rig this up to power off a powerbank battery in your pocket?
Hi Marcus, yes this will work with any powerbank.
We use the Microstart powerbanks and they work fine. Yes they do need to be 12v. If you are using regularly on the bike much more sensible to wire in. Battery power really for occasional use. I agree you won’t be able to run jacket, gloves , pants all off a very small capacity bike. ML
@@Motolegends when you use the microstart powerbank, how long does a full battery last when away from bike?
Evolution in the riding jacked
First off great videos to everyone one from moto legends! My question is regarding the removal of your thermal layer inside your Belstaff jacket when using your heated gear, wouldn't keeping it in make your jacket even warmer and more windproof?
Yes, I suppose it would. The issue would be about bulk and whether you have enough room for both the jacket thermal and a heated jacket. Potentially the jacket is then too big if you are not wearing all those layers! ML
Very good video guys
Did they really not make a optional battery for warm and safe gear? Man that’s a shame
What a great vid certainly sounds and looks great kit.
Winter riding is 100% a miserable experience, heated gear is the way forward, mega pricey IMHO ... I refuse to ride in winter now as it's just not safe to ride in torrential rain, regardless what big bucks high tech gear you wear...get the car out or catch a bus...bikes are for enjoying, winter riding doesn't even come close to being enjoyable, plus road salts destroy any bike.
your mum sounds cool dude
Get your hand off that lady's bottom you naughty man!
My wife said that I should freeze my sperm. I've been riding in NY without heated gear ALL year round for 30 years. Trust me.....it is frozen.
Well Ted Happy Wife = Happy Life
Not a lot of money then .lol
I'm sure there are worse crack habits out there than the one I have with Motolegends videos & the inevitable purchase that then ensues. Oh, and Chris? Your Ma says your dinner's in the oven & you're grounded for a week #twatinthecap
"the twat in the cap" aaahhhahahahahahahahahahahahaa - THIS is why I love this ffuckin channel. Nice one there, Chris 🤣