Was This Camera A Bad Idea?
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2021
- I've spoken about it enough times. The stars aligned and I bought myself a Leica. The jury is still out if I'll stick with it or not. But for now, many Leica videos to follow. I will try my best not to become more pretentious than I already am :)
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Buying a Leica, bought a used Leica on eBay, the Leica M 262 because it was the most affordable Leica I could find, although an M9 would be nice too. A Voigtlander lens will be fine when you can't afford Leica 35mm Lens.
The Leica rangefinders are great. I missed having an OVF on my Q which is why I went back to the budget Leica, the Xpro3. Enjoy!
No doubt you'll enjoy the Xpro3 just as much!
Welcome to the club! Can’t wait to see all the photos you make with it!
Cheers mate!!
Very curious to know your thoughts on the leica system.
Likewise :)
That’s one superb street setup! I could use that exact setup for years on end. Eventually add a V.3 Summicron and a 2.8/90 Elmarit M 6-bit and it’s a complete FF setup. What I mainly prefer over Fujifilm is the Shoot by Feel experience thanks to the MF-only options. That being said, in my hands, one brand is not above the other. They are just different and both highly recommended.
Thanks Daryl. Focus by feel was the biggest draw for me too. I rarely used any of the AF options on my Fuji and always wished for a focus tab.
Dude, you drive a stick! Nice. I've got a 2021 Ford Bronco on order from the factory next month that's a stick. Haven't driven a stick since 2014... but I'm so pumped about it lol. Nice work on this video too by the way!
All British people drive a stick haha. If we don't learn with a stick, our license is only for automatics. The new Bronco's look amazing!
@@TheLiamGordon oh really? That’s awesome! I wish it were that way in the US. But yeah I can’t wait for the Bronco. It’s going to be a regular character on my channel 😂
@@chadainsworthphotography I like that it's kind of badass if you can properly drive a stick here though. Looking forward to seeing your new motor!
@@TheLiamGordon haha true! It’s definitely become a specialty skill. I learned to drive on a stick first, and I’ve always preferred it. My Bronco is being built on August 9th, so it’s coming soon enough!
Congratulations man! Half way through the video I predicted that it would be Leica.
All the best wishes mate, can’t wait to see you photography, thoughts and learning of Leica.
Thanks Rashik. It's been quite enjoyable so far :)
Hi Liam, I went through the same emotional (certainly not practical) need to own a Leica. I wasn't convinced that using a range finder was going to be beneficial and I knew I could never afford an M body plus lenses so I went for the Leica Q2 with its autofocus and fixed 28mm lens. Used carefully (in spite of IBIS I experienced a lot of camera shake blur and its 47+ megapixel sensor is quite demanding) it produces superb images BUT I still find my XPro2/XT2 and X100v easier to use. I therefore think I could live without it but then, it is nice to own a Leica (for some inexplicable reason!)
100% an X-Pro2 or similar is far more practical in many more situations. I think this was a case of now or never. There will always be an affordable used Fuji if this turns out to be a trainwreck :)
My first Leica an M240 and a Voigtlander Nokton 35mm 1.4 are both in the mail to me now and I'm super excited... Pairing it with my X100V....
Nice one! Hope you enjoy it!
If I were a burglar I would go for cameras with black tape on the front 🥲 I don’t really know why Wetzlar guys are not selling black tape rolls for 300$ (free biz idea!). Would be nice to see the pics and how they compare with the X100V (Even if shooting with a Leica is more than image quality). Enjoy it, Liam!
I’d also go for cameras with big red dots on them ☹️ I’ll try a side by side at some point, but the x100v was gone for a few weeks before I got the 262 so it’ll never be an equal comparison unfortunately.
My first digital M Leica was the M262 and absolutely adored it. I then traded it for the M-D262 which again suited me as primarily a film shooter. After that I got the M246 Monochrom and the SL. The Leica itch just gets ridiculous though and now I have the iiia, iiig, M6, M8, M10-P, Q2M and SL2-S. For me, as long as you enjoy the shooting process with whatever tool you have then great. I still use my ‘old’ Canon 5D mk1 on professional shoots!
I truly hope I don’t end up with so many Leicas 😅… I might…
A belated congratulations! 🙂 The M Type 262 has a Minimalist Cool factor that I really like, even though I started with a new M10. (A one-time, post-retirement financial windfall allowed me to to be able to afford the price, for a retirement gift for myself.) In hindsight, I believe that I would have been just as happy, with an M Type 262.
Thank you! Almost 3 years later and don’t regret it at all. I constantly covet an m10-p for the odd live view photo and near silent shutter but the 262 does it’s job very well 😁
Enjoy. And yes, never put duct tape on camera bodies. Gaffers tape will come off cleanly and easily. I have some Leicas and love them but I think all cameras today produce superb images whether they're aps-c, full frame, x-trans, foveon, ccd, etc. Lenses do make a lot of difference, I think.
I’m going to Home Depot to get some of that 3m no residue gaffers tape this week. Hopefully that will do the trick.
I agree, all cameras make great images now. I don’t expect better IQ from Leica. I just think I’ll enjoy shooting with it :)
Hi Liam - Another interesting and very presented video. Leica’s are great and I should imagine that the true rangefinder experience is something special. My eyesight is not what it once was and I now wear glasses on occasions. I have purchased the Leica CL ( APS-C ) and the 23mm F2 summicron at a very good price. Once you get the hang of it , the camera handles beautifully - Its all very inspiring. I have used a Fuji XT2 in the past. I can say without hesitation that Leica CL files in my opinion have superior colours and more depth to them. Thanks again Liam.
You’re not the first person recommend a CL. Something to think about for the future ✌️
@@TheLiamGordon I’m in the process of purchasing a Leica. I’m not a retired dentist so won’t purchase either a M or Q2. Found a CL at a good price so I’m going to give it a whirl. I’m a Fuji shooter and want to give it a try. Hugh Brownstone convinced me to give it a try. No tilty screen. No IBIS. Very simple video. Don’t know if I can focus by touching the screen and then shoot. Don’t know if I can getAS attack? I understand wanting to know what the fuss is too. I also can sell the Leica and return to Fuji. Feeling the fear but going ahead with this anyway.
Mask on Nurse Marty
@@martingreenberg870 I find the CL interesting too. Hope you enjoy it, Marty!
Can’t beat that rangefinder experience, it’s not always about image quality. Congrats on the new camera 👍🏻
Thanks Ivan. Definitely not about IQ, as long as it’s enjoyable to shoot with :)
Have you sold the x100v?
Long story short, it broke. I haven't spoke much about it because for a while I was just mad at Fuji and a weird warranty loophole that I've noticed. I'm not sure how to put it into a video, yet.
I think Meyerowitz, Winogrand, etc, all idolized Cartier-Bresson, so they used the same camera.
And the difference in depth of field between your Fuji is only 1.25 stops, ie. shooting the Fuji at f/1.8 vs f/2.8 on the FF camera. Hardly a big difference. APS-C, m4/3, FF are all miniature formats compared to medium format.
I have my suspicions of that too. I need to find out for myself though.
I use full frame for work and while the difference isn't huge when viewing images, in a practical sense I can feel that I don't have as much DoF at f8.
Its never a wrong time for a new camera! Great video!
Thanks very much mate ✌️
@@TheLiamGordon anytime:)
Hello Liam, Wow, a Leica.....things must be going well for you since you left Philly...lol. Wish you all the best !!!!!!!!
pete
Thanks Pete! Things are going slightly better since the pandemic chilled out. But I still had to sell 3 cameras for this one :P
Rangefinders just have a different feel than an slr/dslr…you either love them or you don’t, kind of no in between. As far as film bodies go, I always loved rangefinders for their size, simplicity, and there was something cool about lining up the double image in the viewfinder.
A pixelated thumbnail? This must be sensitive material! (Feels compelled to watch) ;)
Edit after watching: Affairs of the heart cannot always be explained logically. Enjoy your Leica.
Hahaha, sorry it was a little clickbait-ish :) Thanks for watching!
Stick with it. I'm sure in usage you will change your style to suite the camera. If you do, the adventure begins, you'll be hooked. Good luck......
I’ll definitely give it a fair trial. To be honest, it felt good from the start. My first day shooting with it went really well.
Thanks, Alan ✌️
Awesome, I would have done the same with that Red spot. It matters to have nice things, biit brands suck.
Yeah the dot is just a bit flashy for me. I like some of the other models where the dot is black but I couldn’t afford them :)
Wow! What a coincidence, just bought a Leica M-P 240. Hehe! It is definitely an emotional decision:)
I was eyeing up an m-p 240 on keh.com … or maybe Adorama before I found the 262 :)
I really got bored with my leica m 262 over time (the first year was great, was my first leica) that's partly because I had one lens and couldnt justify spending so much more to make it more versatile than just a street camera. and partly because I was so worried I would drop or break it when travelling and out and about.
I did the opposite and sold my leica gear and went with the x100v which I adore
X100V is great. I loved mine too and would still recommend it to most people over a Leica. I might feel the same way as you in a year ✌️
No offence intended but isn’t the main part of Leica is the lens for the Leica look in the photos, though I do understand that that using a Leica rangefinder is a shooting experience, so two different reasons for using a Leica.
There are plenty of fantastic manufacturers of Leica adaptable lenses besides Leica itself and they go back nearly 70 years: Zeiss, Voigtlander, Canon, Rollei, Minolta, Light Lens Lab to name a few. There is a Leica look and some of the Leica lenses are to die for but all of these brands produce/produced distinct signatures.
Voigtlander is pretty well regarded on Leica's. If I had the money I'd buy a Summarit, but that's for another day. I'm also not yet sure I subscribe to the "Leica look" yet. I just wanted a small lens that is decent. In most comparison videos I watch I'm not seeing a wild difference. It could also just be my eyes though.
@@TheLiamGordon ProTip... don't sleep on the Minolta vintage glass bro. Also... the 7A M stuff is looking great in the right hands.
@@musicmaestro88 Jack had an old Minolta 28 for a minute. seems like a bargain if you get a clean one.
The images looked different and nicer maybe the lens makes the difference?
The lens does change things, but fuji makes wonderful lenses too. I wish I had the Fuji cameras side by side to try and figure it out.
No, it isn't wrong. I totally agreed the content of your vidéo (except the red dot masking). I bought a leica m10d, 3 months ago and I'm not rich, I used xpro's and x100v's since 10 years. I used film camera during 10 years before to switch to digital. Leica stayed always a expensive dream camera but I wasn't convinced to buy a digital one before the m10 series... I hesitate so much because the overpriced body, the fact I used evf and coming back to manual focusing is challenging. But... well, difficult to explain but after reading so much on internet and viewing so many youtube videos about the leica experience, I did the step (we have only one life). Since, fujifilm remain my backup camera and I didn't use it. I use the zone focusing most of the time in the streets and I have no problem with the exposure (I worried about it because I have no lcd screen). Then the expense worth it completely.
Thanks Jeremy. It’s all a matter of individual taste or needs I guess. Maybe I’ll go back to Fuji but so far, I think I’ll be sticking with Leica. I’ve always got my work cameras if I feel a need to use auto focus :)
As for the black tape. I just don’t like the red dot. I wish it was black. I’ve never been a fan of distinct branding on anything. They leave it off the P and D models.
Leica digital is not worth it. If you want the Leica experience, get a used M6 and enjoy!
Leica glass on the other hand is what it's all about :)
You have barely any benefit from a Leica glass on film. And if Leica digital is not worth it, where exactly do you perceive the Leica glass quality?
@@kubowich on a sony :)
Also, there are absolutely benefits for using leica lenses on film, obviously depending on the film stock and the lens.
When I say Leica digital, I'm referring to their body's in comparison to the equivalent in other brands - it's just not worth the price. That's why I suggested an M6 if someone wants the rangefinder experience.
@@mrclarky I can not agree. Leica lenses perform significantly worse than native Sony lenses on sony bodies, due to thicker sensor stack on sony sensor. Leica M-lenses are designed for M-bodies (they also work well on SL).
On film photography, it’s only about color signature of the lens (subjective) and not sharpness (objective) etc…
@@kubowich Ok, if you're going to mention sensor stacks, then we are entering pixel peeping territory - if that's what you're into, then by all means, go for it.
There is many more qualities I look for in a lens than just sharpness :)
Been there, seen it, had the t-shirt 😎
I am a previous owner of a Leica M9 and 35mm lens... Long since sold… I know that itch.
Enjoy...
If I had the money, I’d buy the Q2 to be honest.
I think you mentioned the M9 once before. they are hard to find at a good price with a fresh sensor. We'll see how this itch goes haha, I may end up back where I started. Cheers Jim!
@@TheLiamGordon that itch cost me a packet… lost thousands of pounds Liam 😞 my own fault
So, being out with Edward Gilbert and his Leica rental, was that the final influence to get the camera?
@@macjim it actually arrived the day before I met Eddie. The lens was arriving later that day. The decision all stemmed from both my Fuji’s breaking down and having an older canon to punt too. So really just down to timing.
@@TheLiamGordon 🤣🏴
that lens is awesome!
I agree!
Right back on eBay!!! Haha
Maybe. I’ll give it a few months and see.
How did you slide that one past the wife?
Sold 3 cameras and kept it hush :P
You are a wise man. I love your channel. Thanks.
@@scottgray4877 haha, cheers Scott!
Opinel?
Yep, looks like it.
Nicely spotted!
Must be nice
It is nice :)
The words "Leica" and "budget" do not quite match... :)
more like leica and my wallet mourns like in a funeral ....in the casket is my bank account
I agree. It felt weird in my mouth :P
good luck with it. see ya.
Thank you. Bye.
dunno about the camera but that aloe needs some help
😂😂😂 it’s on the mend. I think
Discreet is important in Street Photography.
LG you drank the cool aid! Just kidding. Happy for ya, now shoot.JT
As long as the cool aid tastes good and doesn’t give me diabetes, I’ll take it haha.
a fellow opinel fan I see
It was my first knife. Someone I worked with recommended it and it’s been great!
Define "reasonable" lol
It was about 1 Fuji x-e4 cheaper than most I’d found online.
Well done enjoy your camera, who cares who made it 🍻
Haha, thanks mate!
We all suffer from G.A.S. and need to find rationalizations for it, so don't feel too guilty (or at least not too different).
Thanks Charles! Justifying myself on youtube is my personal therapy for GAS haha :)
Please water that plant.
Nice camera
Haha, my wife has been trying to rescue it since we moved it across the country. It's slowly recovering :/
Enjoy your new "toy".
Thanks mate 🙏